Our neighbor Detoxx, or is it, Mr. Toxxic?

[Teako]

Hes not blocked
Lol at Detoxx being upset about name calling, seriously, I have three years worth of insults from him
That Agreement where you owe 4 isnt a thing after AM refused to pay 4 (we accepted two to move on and not lawyer, egg in face now)

You mean like that time you refused to pay the 4 -- one of your members left (and was an officer, despite agreeing on not being officers) - and your vote failed 2 to 1 in AM's favor, and you refused to cough up the 4 from the player agreement? When they cussed Necrious to bits, flamed him, raged out, and destroyed the council?

Yeah. No. YOU ruined that system by failing to honor it on the literal very first instance that it happened on. Want the logs of your officer representative cussing our guys out for not instantly bowing to you?

[Erati]

Stop. Living. In. The. Past.

The server is locked. We cant move on and defeat Emp Ssra or the Plane of Time.

I dont understand the obsession over a Dozekar 19 months ago or a Eashen 11 months ago regardless what happened. Its over. Agreements were made or time was served.

Move. On.

[Erati]

You mean like that time you refused to pay the 4 -- one of your members left (and was an officer, despite agreeing on not being officers) - and your vote failed 2 to 1 in AM's favor, and you refused to cough up the 4 from the player agreement? When they cussed Necrious to bits, flamed him, raged out, and destroyed the council?

Yeah. No. YOU ruined that system by failing to honor it on the literal very first instance that it happened on. Want the logs of your officer representative cussing our guys out for not instantly bowing to you?

Who are you again?

[skarlorn]

I was out of town operating on the phone
I offered him Vulaks as soon as I woke up

Real text written by a real human being. I'm laughing so fucking hard. C u kids Monday when I'm back at work and the tears have pushed this past fifty pages

[Fragged]

Stop. Living. In. The. Past.

The server is locked. We cant move on and defeat Emp Ssra or the Plane of Time.

I dont understand the obsession over a Dozekar 19 months ago or a Eashen 11 months ago regardless what happened. Its over. Agreements were made or time was served.

Move. On.

I could be mistaken but judging by Mikeos signature, it seems this was brought up by a member of Awakened?

[Uuruk]

Anyone read this shit?

[skarlorn]

Anyone read this shit?

Just as much as I could shitting on a Friday night out. Enough to pick up one autistic quote

Pls keep me mad Uuruk cu monday

[Erati]

I could be mistaken but judging by Mikeos signature, it seems this was brought up by a member of Awakened?

Was talking to errrbody.

Literally no reason shit from last year or year before or year before should have any meaning to what we decide in the present. Its stupid and has no place in Everquest.

[Argh]

I think the word you're looking for is precedent.

[Uuruk]

Ok, i clicked back one page. Eratani is one of the nicest people I've ever met through video games. Detoxx is a tranny and his parents don't love him. I don't think career Everquest player looks good on a resume.

[Detoxx]

Was talking to errrbody.

Literally no reason shit from last year or year before or year before should have any meaning to what we decide in the present. Its stupid and has no place in Everquest.

Until the roles are flipped. You should be begging me to take a deal, not calling me an asshole and refusing to talk.

My doors always open, babe. Come on in!

[Erati]

Eratani I think Detoxx's (very good) point is that Awakened leadership has been screwing Aftermath on lawyerquesting for months and years and getting away with it somehow, and now that there is a smoking gun because you guys couldn't help yourselves out of the need to salvage a week, it's time to pay the piper.

As somebody who was an officer and very close to dozens of headscratchers where you and Breaken got away with murder, I find it pretty funny that you're on here resorting to the "that was then, this is now" card. Time to die buddy.

Lol everyone of them lives in the past.

Okay, name 8 things we got away with.

[branamil]

Ok, i clicked back one page. Eratani is one of the nicest people I've ever met through video games. Detoxx is a tranny and his parents don't love him. I don't think career Everquest player looks good on a resume.

Can't ruin your resume if you're unemployed :)

[Wonkie]

Okay, name 8 things we got away with.

this is a bad argument

[Erati]

this is a bad argument

You are not the real ghost of Anakin.

[Wonkie]

You are not the real ghost of Anakin.

anakin was a movie ghost. he was never real.

[Pint]

P99 raid scene gotta be the only environment so fucked up that you would look at your available options and decide you agreed with the guy named detoxx.

[Teako]

Who are you again?

I was one of the four people in the conversation where we agreed that officers would not be present or part of the guild meetings for any reason period. We agreed they would be 4 normal guildmates that nobody could know. But, you conned us real good. Since we didn't get it typed out in writing that it couldn't be officers, and we weren't to have anything to do with it -- you immediately appointed Stikkerz as one of yours.. and then pressured the shit out of him constantly for instant results.

I was there, and was sent screenshots of your officers openly requesting people train wyverns on to live engages in guild chat. Want some? Your guildmates have frapses uploaded with audio of multiple officers saying, "Drop wyverns on them. Do not let them get it (vulak) to hub." MULTIPLE times over the last year.

I was there when you created a player-council system to address issues, and then immediately flaked on and refused to adhere to it the first time it was going to cost you 4 vulaks after you intentionally dumped an Eashen on our face at zone in to wipe us, and then conceded Eashen while having a pre-set up team to pull/engage Vulak.. which you refused to concede Vulak. You lost both, by the way, despite cheating.

I was there when we made an agreement for statue, and you immediately began utilizing a feeder guild to contest OUR half of the agreement while restricting them from contesting your half of it "or else"... And when we cut that agreement because you were double-dipping you dropped them to the wayside as if they had never carried your weight.

I was there when your leaders openly asked someone to train us on Vulak, had a guildmate log in to an AM tagged toon from years prior, train us deliberately AND THEN TRIED TO BLAME US FOR IT. Something so unbelievable that server staff didn't even know how to appropriately respond to that level of hideous under-handed tactic.

I was there when your guild openly/willingly utilized alt tab jumping despite being warned to stop by GMs to acquire hundreds of FTE's illegally, but your leadership promoted it because "there's no way they can prove it" - ALL of Aftermath was informed they would be removed if they alt tab jumped.. Why is it your leadership PROMOTED doing it?

I was there when your guild was spam dispelling our pets at AoW and instantly re-charming them with strings to steal our dogs/giants for your guild.. despite you not having gotten the statue FTE.

I was there when your guild came up with the strategy to repeatedly over-agro our pullers on Doze / Statue, pull them in the opposite direction with feign death, and force them to leash. Remember that Doze that your OFFICER put 5 mallets in, 3 slowstones, and more during our FTE? Then ran it the entire way to ToV west exit while you insisted we were kiting it to west? Yeah.

OH, OH, remember that time you petitioned us for lulling Vyemm through the wall despite both guilds having done it for months?

Man, we could even bring up that time you helped CSG petition us for not giving them a timer, because your numbers were shakey and you, quote, "need a week or two of kills so people keep logging in"

Remember the MULTIPLE times I came to you in the past and said, "Hey dude you're about to eat shit on this petition situation.. We have a clear as day fraps of your monk Kamayamaya training us at entrance on vulak.. on purpose" - and you said, quote, "I'm fine with rolling the dice on letting staff decide." to me?

Remember that time you had a veteran guildmate deliberately leash your own vulak willingly, petitioned it, and clipped a whole bunch of video scraps together to convince server staff it was our fault that Vulak was chasing Kelzaraz around in NTOV?

There's no fucking telling how many other underhanded shady bullshit moves that got brushed aside or under the rug over the years.. But one thing has consistently stayed true: Awakened is willing to lie, cheat, train, manipulate, use, and abuse any/everything they possibly can if it means killing Dozekar and Vulak.

You know dude, I genuinely tried to work with you a lot of times.. But frankly, ya'll are incredibly corrupt and are willing to cheat at any/every single solitary instance possible to get ahead. Cloki nailed it, you weigh the risks of being caught cheating to the rewards of cheating. You need to be consistently reminded that cheating first, conceding later is not an acceptable stance on this server. I remember multiple instances of getting tells from AW members saying that AW leadership was supporting/promoting people log off on Dagarn ledge because "we couldn't prove it". I was there when AW utilized the strategy to deliberately dump mobs on our FTE racers.

Also, it doesn't matter what Sedativex died to. You can't kill our entire pull team at the point that aggro would be transferred and leverage that to your advantage. That's called raid disruption, and training. I don't know why Awakened is trying to cling to this "OMG SHOW HIS FRAPS" notion.. His fraps is totally irrelevant. Even if he died jumping into the lava wearing flip flops and singing campfire songs -- you can not train the entire pull squad of our guild at the point of agro transfer. It is against the rules, period. Not "Well, if we spin it this way.." nah dude, sorry, your guys trained the shit out of our pull team and now you're shitting bricks.


Here's a foot note for you: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269930

We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.

You're afraid of your underhanded guild dying over another 40 day suspension? Here's a great fucking suggestion: Quit cheating.

[icedwards]

I was one of the four people in the conversation where we agreed that officers would not be present or part of the guild meetings for any reason period. We agreed they would be 4 normal guildmates that nobody could know. But, you conned us real good. Since we didn't get it typed out in writing that it couldn't be officers, and we weren't to have anything to do with it -- you immediately appointed Stikkerz as one of yours.. and then pressured the shit out of him constantly for instant results.

I was there, and was sent screenshots of your officers openly requesting people train wyverns on to live engages in guild chat. Want some? Your guildmates have frapses uploaded with audio of multiple officers saying, "Drop wyverns on them. Do not let them get it (vulak) to hub." MULTIPLE times over the last year.

I was there when you created a player-council system to address issues, and then immediately flaked on and refused to adhere to it the first time it was going to cost you 4 vulaks after you intentionally dumped an Eashen on our face at zone in to wipe us, and then conceded Eashen while having a pre-set up team to pull/engage Vulak.. which you refused to concede Vulak. You lost both, by the way, despite cheating.

I was there when we made an agreement for statue, and you immediately began utilizing a feeder guild to contest OUR half of the agreement while restricting them from contesting your half of it "or else"... And when we cut that agreement because you were double-dipping you dropped them to the wayside as if they had never carried your weight.

I was there when your leaders openly asked someone to train us on Vulak, had a guildmate log in to an AM tagged toon from years prior, train us deliberately AND THEN TRIED TO BLAME US FOR IT. Something so unbelievable that server staff didn't even know how to appropriately respond to that level of hideous under-handed tactic.

I was there when your guild openly/willingly utilized alt tab jumping despite being warned to stop by GMs to acquire hundreds of FTE's illegally, but your leadership promoted it because "there's no way they can prove it" - ALL of Aftermath was informed they would be removed if they alt tab jumped.. Why is it your leadership PROMOTED doing it?

I was there when your guild was spam dispelling our pets at AoW and instantly re-charming them with strings to steal our dogs/giants for your guild.. despite you not having gotten the statue FTE.

I was there when your guild came up with the strategy to repeatedly over-agro our pullers on Doze / Statue, pull them in the opposite direction with feign death, and force them to leash. Remember that Doze that your OFFICER put 5 mallets in, 3 slowstones, and more during our FTE? Then ran it the entire way to ToV west exit while you insisted we were kiting it to west? Yeah.

OH, OH, remember that time you petitioned us for lulling Vyemm through the wall despite both guilds having done it for months?

Man, we could even bring up that time you helped CSG petition us for not giving them a timer, because your numbers were shakey and you, quote, "need a week or two of kills so people keep logging in"

Remember the MULTIPLE times I came to you in the past and said, "Hey dude you're about to eat shit on this petition situation.. We have a clear as day fraps of your monk Kamayamaya training us at entrance on vulak.. on purpose" - and you said, quote, "I'm fine with rolling the dice on letting staff decide." to me?

Remember that time you had a veteran guildmate deliberately leash your own vulak willingly, petitioned it, and clipped a whole bunch of video scraps together to convince server staff it was our fault that Vulak was chasing Kelzaraz around in NTOV?

There's no fucking telling how many other underhanded shady bullshit moves that got brushed aside or under the rug over the years.. But one thing has consistently stayed true: Awakened is willing to lie, cheat, train, manipulate, use, and abuse any/everything they possibly can if it means killing Dozekar and Vulak.

You know dude, I genuinely tried to work with you a lot of times.. But frankly, ya'll are incredibly corrupt and are willing to cheat at any/every single solitary instance possible to get ahead. Cloki nailed it, you weigh the risks of being caught cheating to the rewards of cheating. You need to be consistently reminded that cheating first, conceding later is not an acceptable stance on this server. I remember multiple instances of getting tells from AW members saying that AW leadership was supporting/promoting people log off on Dagarn ledge because "we couldn't prove it". I was there when AW utilized the strategy to deliberately dump mobs on our FTE racers.

Also, it doesn't matter what Sedativex died to. You can't kill our entire pull team at the point that aggro would be transferred and leverage that to your advantage. That's called raid disruption, and training. I don't know why Awakened is trying to cling to this "OMG SHOW HIS FRAPS" notion.. His fraps is totally irrelevant. Even if he died jumping into the lava wearing flip flops and singing campfire songs -- you can not train the entire pull squad of our guild at the point of agro transfer. It is against the rules, period. Not "Well, if we spin it this way.." nah dude, sorry, your guys trained the shit out of our pull team and now you're shitting bricks.


Here's a foot note for you: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269930

We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.

You're afraid of your underhanded guild dying over another 40 day suspension? Here's a great fucking suggestion: Quit cheating.

Sedyt, everyone...

[Uuruk]

I was one of the four people in the conversation where we agreed that officers would not be present or part of the guild meetings for any reason period. We agreed they would be 4 normal guildmates that nobody could know. But, you conned us real good. Since we didn't get it typed out in writing that it couldn't be officers, and we weren't to have anything to do with it -- you immediately appointed Stikkerz as one of yours.. and then pressured the shit out of him constantly for instant results.

I was there, and was sent screenshots of your officers openly requesting people train wyverns on to live engages in guild chat. Want some? Your guildmates have frapses uploaded with audio of multiple officers saying, "Drop wyverns on them. Do not let them get it (vulak) to hub." MULTIPLE times over the last year.

I was there when you created a player-council system to address issues, and then immediately flaked on and refused to adhere to it the first time it was going to cost you 4 vulaks after you intentionally dumped an Eashen on our face at zone in to wipe us, and then conceded Eashen while having a pre-set up team to pull/engage Vulak.. which you refused to concede Vulak. You lost both, by the way, despite cheating.

I was there when we made an agreement for statue, and you immediately began utilizing a feeder guild to contest OUR half of the agreement while restricting them from contesting your half of it "or else"... And when we cut that agreement because you were double-dipping you dropped them to the wayside as if they had never carried your weight.

I was there when your leaders openly asked someone to train us on Vulak, had a guildmate log in to an AM tagged toon from years prior, train us deliberately AND THEN TRIED TO BLAME US FOR IT. Something so unbelievable that server staff didn't even know how to appropriately respond to that level of hideous under-handed tactic.

I was there when your guild openly/willingly utilized alt tab jumping despite being warned to stop by GMs to acquire hundreds of FTE's illegally, but your leadership promoted it because "there's no way they can prove it" - ALL of Aftermath was informed they would be removed if they alt tab jumped.. Why is it your leadership PROMOTED doing it?

I was there when your guild was spam dispelling our pets at AoW and instantly re-charming them with strings to steal our dogs/giants for your guild.. despite you not having gotten the statue FTE.

I was there when your guild came up with the strategy to repeatedly over-agro our pullers on Doze / Statue, pull them in the opposite direction with feign death, and force them to leash. Remember that Doze that your OFFICER put 5 mallets in, 3 slowstones, and more during our FTE? Then ran it the entire way to ToV west exit while you insisted we were kiting it to west? Yeah.

OH, OH, remember that time you petitioned us for lulling Vyemm through the wall despite both guilds having done it for months?

Man, we could even bring up that time you helped CSG petition us for not giving them a timer, because your numbers were shakey and you, quote, "need a week or two of kills so people keep logging in"

Remember the MULTIPLE times I came to you in the past and said, "Hey dude you're about to eat shit on this petition situation.. We have a clear as day fraps of your monk Kamayamaya training us at entrance on vulak.. on purpose" - and you said, quote, "I'm fine with rolling the dice on letting staff decide." to me?

Remember that time you had a veteran guildmate deliberately leash your own vulak willingly, petitioned it, and clipped a whole bunch of video scraps together to convince server staff it was our fault that Vulak was chasing Kelzaraz around in NTOV?

There's no fucking telling how many other underhanded shady bullshit moves that got brushed aside or under the rug over the years.. But one thing has consistently stayed true: Awakened is willing to lie, cheat, train, manipulate, use, and abuse any/everything they possibly can if it means killing Dozekar and Vulak.

You know dude, I genuinely tried to work with you a lot of times.. But frankly, ya'll are incredibly corrupt and are willing to cheat at any/every single solitary instance possible to get ahead. Cloki nailed it, you weigh the risks of being caught cheating to the rewards of cheating. You need to be consistently reminded that cheating first, conceding later is not an acceptable stance on this server. I remember multiple instances of getting tells from AW members saying that AW leadership was supporting/promoting people log off on Dagarn ledge because "we couldn't prove it". I was there when AW utilized the strategy to deliberately dump mobs on our FTE racers.

Also, it doesn't matter what Sedativex died to. You can't kill our entire pull team at the point that aggro would be transferred and leverage that to your advantage. That's called raid disruption, and training. I don't know why Awakened is trying to cling to this "OMG SHOW HIS FRAPS" notion.. His fraps is totally irrelevant. Even if he died jumping into the lava wearing flip flops and singing campfire songs -- you can not train the entire pull squad of our guild at the point of agro transfer. It is against the rules, period. Not "Well, if we spin it this way.." nah dude, sorry, your guys trained the shit out of our pull team and now you're shitting bricks.


Here's a foot note for you: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269930

We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.

You're afraid of your underhanded guild dying over another 40 day suspension? Here's a great fucking suggestion: Quit cheating.

I remember the time this was a Velious locked elf server and you cared WAY too fucking much.

[Hyjalx]

I don't really see the issue here. If you go through the north door, you're putting your own ass on the line. Even experienced players will aggro the wyverns running to Aary. During the FTE era, once you were past the north door, it was ALWAYS FFA unless completely egregious (ie. my trained vulak). How about setting up your pull team faster so you are the first guild through the door next time.

Using extortion tactics and intimidation through the server staff is about as scummy as you can get. Suspending guilds that compromise hundreds of people for months at a time on a time on a locked server isn't going to keep this sandbox going long either.

[skarlorn]

P99 raid scene gotta be the only environment so fucked up that you would look at your available options and decide you agreed with the guy named detoxx.

Lmao

POSTED FROM BATHROOM

[Arkanjil]

Hey guys. Luckily I have close friends in both guilds, from apps to officers, so I get to see and hear just about all the drama.



1. Awakened is off a suspension and the Awakened Officers aren't sure how many people will show up to track and FTE.

2. Awakened Officers decide to give Guild-Wide DKP to poopsock. This is rarely done at the end of an important window, but this time they do it for the entire respawn cycle in order to show that they are here and that they mean business.

3. Going even further, this time the Awakened Officers decide to give "DOUBLE P00PSOCK DKP" to make sure enough people stay online. This means the entire Awakened guild was getting ~15 DKP/Hour for the better part of ~2 days just for staying logged into NTOV and not being AFK. Resulting in 6,000-8,000 DKP being added.

4. Aftermath knew Awakened would go hard on the first week back, especially considering the 15 DKP/hour guild poopsock scheme. So Aftermath took nothing lightly.

5. The week starts and Aftermath does amazing. I don't need to reiterate what all died.

6. Vulak'Aerr is one of the last mobs left for the respawn cycle and Awakened is feeling pretty demoralized, they even have an applicant doing the final hour of Vulak COTH mage. It literally has minutes left in the window.

7. Lord Koi'doken pops and Awakened doesnt know it is up for the first 5 minutes. Most of the leaders are MIA. This is irritating many members who still want to play.
[Thu Apr 05 17:03:51 2018] Kolby tells you, 'relying on apps to log coth mages and shit, officers / leaders all MIA'

8. Vulak'Aerr finally spawns with mere minutes left in the window. The Awakened Mage COTHs 1.9 seconds late and thus Aftermath gets a clean and easy FTE to bring home.

9. Awakened' monk Bruize agro's all the nasty Wyverns and brings it into Aarynar's hallway, despite it being Aftermaths FTE by the time he was at 4way. https://youtu.be/jVMLBIA26ac?t=17s

10. The Aftermath pull team gets obliterated in Aary hallway by Bruize's wyverns while Aftermath was bringing in the clean Vulak FTE, resulting in FTE being lost, and picked up by an Awakened monk.

11. A monk in Aftermath says they frapsed the whole thing, and immediately begin to upload/render it. Aftermath leadership tells Awakened that the fraps is 100% crystal clear and not to kill Vulak'Aerr before deciding or a petition will be sent.

12. The video takes a couple seconds to render for High Quality. Diamondfist insists that the video is only 240p quality and illegible after failing to realize he needs to refresh Youtube. When the video is quickly High Definition, Diamondfist again says it is 240p, still failing to refresh Youtube again as it is 1080p by now.

13. Despite a High Quality video sitting there, they decide to kill Vulak'Aerr. They knew that conceding the dragon would be a huge morale killer after such a disastrous week so the Officers decide "kill it and deal with it after." They do not hold off on DPS despite 75 members online. They cheerfully kill Vulak'Aerr and soon realize that it was on this night that they fucked up.

14. Still, Awakened takes DKP Bids, and the first item is awarded+looted. The second item, which comically just so happens to be the worst item off Vulak's entire loot table, is offered to Aftermath ~15 minutes later after half of Aftermath guild had logged off for the night. Awakened already took bids and looted the other item, so offer to "transfer it over."

15. Awakened Officers start to panic and draft up a plan to post on RNF for the world to see, trying to spin this entire thing in their favor, despite P99 Staff highly suggesting that RNF is a terrible place to go for ongoing petitions/conflict.. After a few rough drafts they decide "that's nice, post it"

16. They provide fraps of Bruize's run-up and imminent death/train, but after careful thought they knew it had incriminating things uttered on it and promptly deleted the video. Multiple requests to see it have gone ignored, despite it once being in their very own RNF thread as "evidence."

17. Diamondfist accuses the Aftermath frapser of possibly manipulating the /assist function, despite all the wyverns clearly running up to Bruize and slaughtering him, showing nobody else on the agro list as the wyverns sit there basking in the kill.

18. Diamondfist then accuses Aftermath as the culprits of the video being taken down, even though that is not how Youtube works at all, as it would probably give a community guideline TOS error, but it did not. Plus, Aftermath wants to see the video as well. Awakened is now caught hiding something and the thread has backfired. (it's still private, he is home, and he is replying to this thread.)




In the end - You cost Aftermath a legit Vulak'Aerr, you accused Aftermath of cheating on a fraps despite basic logic proving otherwise, you accused Aftermath of deleting your own Youtube video from your own Youtube account on your own RNF thread.

You are complete and utter imbeciles and in no way did you help your cause by taking this to RNF. And why is that video STILL private? Really makes you think..

Dannyl

Pretty much

[Daloon]

The blatant amount of lies in this thread from Awakened that have been debunked is ridiculous and insulting. I feel like I'm owed an apology.

Aftermath got royally trained by Awakened and then Awakened had the audacity to make an RNF thread about it, insulting everyone's intelligence along the way.

Awakened did train Aftermath. That is fact at this point. Considering the 2 Vulak offer, I am going to assume Awakened now agrees, despite much of this threads content.

Awakened killed the Vulak'Aerr despite fraps sitting in front of them and a request that the mob not be killed until reviewed. If I can 35-man a Vulak'Aerr for 38 straight minutes, Awakened can 75-man a primetime Vulak'Aerr for 4 extra minutes to review fraps. You still went ahead and killed it, even took DKP bids, and awarded loot.

You comically saw the worst loot imaginable of Druid Arms and Hobalt's War Helmet (Alt-Tier loot according to Awakeneds own loot policy) and was glad to offer it up, after awarding the better piece of course. Amusing.

Awakened then accused Aftermath of deleting Awakeneds' own Youtube video from Awakened's own channel on their own RNF evidence thread. Are you going to come clean on this one yet, or continue to plead ignorance? By the way, original video in this thread is still private. Want to explain why or are you just going to continue to ignore this? I'm repeating myself for a reason. Its...Still...Private... (Your...Evidence... Video...) Is...Still...Private. You claimed he will change it when home from work. It's midnight. What lie # are we are?

Awakened then had to embarrassingly have Aftermath explain to them how aggro works at Iki/Eashen after multiple claims of just about every lie imaginable regarding aggro messages, sneak mechanics, social mechanics, etc, on RNF of all places. Why did you stretch so far on this? At the end of the day, your side of the story is still a private video (and not-so-private video). You do see how ridiculous this looks on you guys, riiight? Do you understand the mechanics now, or continue to spit ignorance? Because we are on page 30+ now, so I would like to clear that one up.

Awakened then tried to upload an edited video that got leaked by their own members and showed exactly what went wrong for Bruize. Turns out he didn't sneak past as promised multiple times by multiple AW officers.

https://i.imgur.com/VVatTbq.png

Awakened then made complete falsehoods about past encounters with wyvern trains, debunked again halfway through this thread.

I will stop there. I just want an apology from Awakened officers and a clear understanding where exactly you stand when it comes to the 10+ lies listed in your own thread. Your video is still private, by the way.

[Teako]

For the record, a few of us have attempted and managed to recreate Wyvern aggro taking the exact same path Bruize did in his video -- by enabling sneak at the same spot, and disabling sneak at the same spot -- and aggroed wyverns at a 100% success rate.

Over the course of two incredibly boring hours sitting in ToV, we attempted it a total of 37 times by sneaking where he started, and dropping where he started. Out of 37 times, we aggroed the wyvern trap 37 times.

This post is for the <Awakened> members that somehow think Bruize did not aggro those mobs. Bad luck on being the one to lose the wyvern lottery, but it's still your responsibility for them being brought to where they were dropped and what played out.

[roboshaman]

This game really amazes me.

You just can't get this type of immersion anywhere else.

Are we still saying pras? or is that like a 2010 thing? idk. clicking my guise and goin to bed.

[Uuruk]

Pras it

[jpdrew3]

https://i.imgur.com/VVatTbq.png

/thread

[Oleris]

P99 raid scene gotta be the only environment so fucked up that you would look at your available options and decide you agreed with the guy named detoxx.

miss you pint

[beargryllz]

Day 1 complete

[Ella`Ella]

Awakened's only hope is to do whatever it takes to retain Unbrella immediately.


I don't even want to think about how much plat it would take to have a monthly Unbrella retainer

After discussing it with the partners of Ella`Ella Associates, I've decided to take this case on as my annual pro-bono.

[branamil]

gonna print out this thread and link it to my friends to convince them to play p99

[planarity]

I am in awakened, but I'm not interested in tribalism or politics. I just want to play EQ with adults. I don't have any problem admitting when I or my guild fucks up. I hate hyperbole and twisting of facts.

I wasn't there but I've seen all the fraps. I looked at where Bruize took off sneak and it's possible he aggroed the wyverns from that spot, depending on server ticks. I even tried it myself a few times. If that's what happened, he was just extremely unlucky, especially considering all the other people running with him who just got lucky with ticks. (The only other possibility, maybe less likely, is that someone behind him aggroed them and died/flopped.)

For the record, a few of us have attempted and managed to recreate Wyvern aggro taking the exact same path Bruize did in his video -- by enabling sneak at the same spot, and disabling sneak at the same spot -- and aggroed wyverns at a 100% success rate.

Over the course of two incredibly boring hours sitting in ToV, we attempted it a total of 37 times by sneaking where he started, and dropping where he started. Out of 37 times, we aggroed the wyvern trap 37 times.


Pick one:
- I/we actually tried it
- I/we found that the wyverns aggroed 100% of the time

The chance is greater than zero, so it doesn't really matter, but it's definitely not 100%. less than 50%. It's still server ticks. Why bother making this shit up? How are people supposed to take you seriously? By the way, the wyverns aren't a trap. They're just wyverns.


We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.


Pick one:
- I've seen the fraps of Bruize obviously trying not to aggro the wyverns
- Bruize "deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE"

Here you wrote out this 10-page parade of evils visited upon you by awakened leadership, I'm thinking "oh shit is all that true?" then you blow all your credibility at the end. How can anyone believe anything you say?

I haven't done much raiding in tov since <Rampage> ended, and already I've seen a few wyvern trains. A couple months ago an AM shaman died to the wyverns and trained them on me as I was waiting to 2ndary; they killed our puller too. Supposedly the same thing happened on Lady M, though I haven't seen fraps of it. Most of the time it's hard to say whether it was intentional, this time it's not hard. It's just something that happens and will keep happening since it's based on server ticks if you aren't sneaking or standing from an FD.

[Banker]

I still remember the day when diamondfist won roll at scout and giving it to some guild mates after folks helped to kill captain. I was like wtf, awaken officer is really that desperate for a scout’s loot or they simply don’t give a damn for anyone in the server ? Thumps down for diamondfist

[Ella`Ella]

gonna print out this thread and link it to my friends to convince them to play p99

Favorite post so far

[Arkanjil]

This has been an entertaining 33 pages...

[NachtMystium]

Do the dragons of the Tower of Veeshan dream about the quarrels of their adversaries? Do you think they have their own forum where they discuss P99 players?

[skarlorn]

cuck or kick

[Vianna]

Why does every fucking thing require payment equal to things that happened months+years ago

When we agree to something, thats it. You dont fucking continue to “get revenge” just cause the system allows guilds to refuse an offer thats equal to what was lost ( 1 dragon) plus additional one due to a rule being broken.

Why is this a thing that we have to relive every single past agreement. I dont care whats in the past how can anyone ever move forward.

Im glad he refused, I was only offering it bc thats what AM gave us on most recent Vulak incident yet I have to deal w every single agreement even concocted to be compared to each incident. Take a look in the mirror ocasionally, I swear I thought we were human. To be humane is forgive and forget, then you realize this isnt even about real life issues its about fucking pixels and its even more absurd the lengths these people go to when they felt “wronged” anytime the past 8 years of this project. Sorry I was not around to concede the mob, but you shouldnt take advantage of the rules in this manner and this morning I indeed had enough and cannot negotiate w Detoxxic any longer. He will never stop pushing the envelope til every dragon he ever paid out is paid back x3. Totally normal way to act on a hobby nostalgia emulator of Classic Everquest.

Because you set those Standards. Maybe not you personally but your guild. When you ask for things that are beyond what is fair as a guild the other party will always remember that. You can't play the "Forget the past" card now that you are on the other side of it.

To Top it off we are discussing this in an RNF thread one of your Officers made flaming the other guild's Guild Leader. The other guild by evidence provided here was in fact correct in their assessment of the situation and they provided your guild with enough evidence to prove it. Yet here exists some weird thread where Diamondfist tries to oddly blame AM. How did he ever think this was a good idea ?


AM wasn't at fault in anything that I see and yet here are public accusations by your Officer in a long winded rant. You guys need to sort your house out and fix those problems. This is literally one of the strangest Officer decisions I have ever seen on P99. I honestly don't understand how you guys didn't lose half your remaining members after a thread like this.

[Ravager]

lol 34 pages on a Friday night and more than a couple people typed up some pretty lengthy novels arguing about imaginary dragons.

Let this be a caution to anyone thinking about raiding on this server. Not only will you be subjected to people like this, but if you even try dealing with people like this, you become people like this.

[Foxplay]

How much plat is it to go thru LawQuest school to become a lawyerquester

Is the BarQuest hard?

Is there even an ethics quest?

[khanable]

where that 60 day at

[Ravager]

Reboot server, single account rule/acct tied to IP. 2 toons per account.
This is quite sensible, though people would still have multiple accounts. It'd be better to use some sort of Bayesian fingerprinting of UI's through the DLL to identify individual players, since people probably arrange their UI's, macros and spellbooks similarly across characters and machines.

[Speedi]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks

[Phatez]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks


Speedi, this logic goes both ways. If AW had not looted the corpse at all to see what dropped that’s one thing, but looting it first, seeing two of the worst items on the loot table, and then offering the loot is a different story.

If vulak has dropped double Gharns would they have still offered it? I’m not sure... maybe! But it’s a null point because we can’t know.

This offense is more aggregious than just a simple wveryn train. It has to be handled differently than just handing the loot over, like could be done on a less “high priority” target.

AW has a long history of “do whatever it takes to get Vulak”. If you notice we killed every contested dragon in NTOV this week except for one. The one we didn’t kill was feshlak, which we conceded on a dirty pull. The day in question we had a 100% clean pull on Vulak as wel, and it would have been brought in with no issues.

One might think that AW’s anything for Vulak mentality might change after this holiday suspensions(over Vulak) or a 30 day suspension for CSG shenanigans, but sadly it seems it has not. There is a fundamental difference between AM and AW leadership when it comes to how they view and treat the situations where there guild fucks up.

You know what Detoxx said to me after the holiday Vulak fraps Of my bracer of the hidden? He said, “and as for that, I am disgusted. I never want to see shit like a that again.”

It saddens me that literally the first Vulak AW is back something like this happens. I know you guys are hurting, and I enjoy having you around to compete with. Treating the rest of the server like this won’t help your case for survival at all.

[Skew]

https://i.imgur.com/09uia3B.jpg

[Mockba1980]

lol

[Detoxx]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks

Logic and reason? Heres some logic and reason for you...

Diamondfist tells the guild "Hey guys, im looking at a fraps here where we possibly made a huge mistake and were going to hold off on taking tells on loot until we see whats going on"

Whew, man that was a tough one. Real brain-buster. At that point it was nearly 25 mins you had to look at and review the fraps. Instead, Diamond wanted to go fraps himself doing some weird ass dance in the north door to go ahead prove exactly nothing. Another example of solid leadership decisions.

[Zal22]

Vulak will never spawn again!?!

I like a good RnF but this Is stupid. Think about the effort you are putting into this TIME LOCKED VELIOUS SERVER!

How about you enjoy it without the meltdowns?

[radda]

Vulak will never spawn again!?!

I like a good RnF but this Is stupid. Think about the effort you are putting into this TIME LOCKED VELIOUS SERVER!

How about you enjoy it without the meltdowns?

Lol, the door is over there

[Zal22]

Detox quotes himself because?? It did not add anything. Why do you people keep doing this??

[Nixtar]

Sirken should just despawn all raid targets for 30 days. If these man-children misbehaves again increase it to 60 days. After that, permanently ban every single account associated with the offending guilds(yes, guilds).

[radda]

Detox quotes himself because?? It did not add anything. Why do you people keep doing this??

You are sure triggered this morning

[Loke]

Oh look, a rant about raid drama; I wonder if Ravager is in here unironically shit posting about how horrible raid guilds are and how pathetic everyone else is for posting here...

Just get rid of the raiders so we can enjoy some classic EverQuest

Ever notice it's always the same two groups of people fighting over the same shit every month? I'm confused as to why Sirken would volunteer to arbitrate this shit when it'd be easier to just ban them and move on.

lol 34 pages on a Friday night and more than a couple people typed up some pretty lengthy novels arguing about imaginary dragons.

Let this be a caution to anyone thinking about raiding on this server. Not only will you be subjected to people like this, but if you even try dealing with people like this, you become people like this.

This is quite sensible, though people would still have multiple accounts. It'd be better to use some sort of Bayesian fingerprinting of UI's through the DLL to identify individual players, since people probably arrange their UI's, macros and spellbooks similarly across characters and machines.

Yup...

[Detoxx]

Typical ex bda passive aggressively trying to take the fact out that they failed on multiple servers on the guilds that are good. Not much to see there.

[Pheer]

The ones who stayed in Awakened are the ones who, as noted by these ex members, were the ones that were the dirtiest and the ones that trained, ate mod rods, used skeleton illusions to train without any proof, dragged old corpses to where the new corpses of their train was and manipulated anything and everything to secure a kill.

Ironic how that works since we can now clearly start to see their cheating ways are no longer working and the true colors of what they would have been without the people who made rampage good being around.

I feel some pity for them but then I look at last night and remember why I shouldnt.

is your mouth capable of opening without spewing hot molten bullshit everywhere? Some people just couldnt stomach the idea of being guilded with this guy right here:

https://i.imgur.com/ODWvxR9.png

Also I dont understand this whole "40 day incoming" and "AW is dead" circlejerk. is that really what you guys want? is that whats fun to you? Logging in at the same time every week to kill the same trivial tov dragons uncontested to gear your guild up so that next week youre able to kill those same dragons 10 seconds faster? Anything that even came close to mattering on a competitive level on this server is long since passed, now its just a handful of nerds arguing with eachother on the forums on a week to week basis about who is e-dominating who and updating their guild threads with charts and pie graphs with mathematical breakdowns about why they should be considered the "winners" of the week.

I highly recommend giving yourselves a self-imposed 40 day, youd be surprised how good it feels to not give a shit about this old ass dying server full of elven lawyers and just do something else to have some actual fun for once. Also you avoid having to interact with retards like Sedyt/Kluwen/The rest of the AM forum warrior team or the AW equivalents. Go take a walk, hug your SO assuming crippling elfquest addiction hasnt prevented you from having one, and get some perspective.

[radda]

It’s bit that bad

[radda]

It’s bit that bad

Meant not but w/e

[mefdinkins]

bring back FTE races and 1 hour windows.

[thiz1234]

bring back FTE races and 1 hour windows.

Rustle 2.0 inc.

[roboshaman]

AW won't die but will probably reform/merge. And whoever recommended the name "Woke" is a genius.

I, in my meager insignificance, approve of that guild title.

[pogs4ever]

root the dragons

[srgraham69]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks

AW had also already looted one of the items. Server staff will only transfer looted items to other players on the kill log of that dragon, which none of AM were.

[Detoxx]

Incoherent rambling

Get some new material. Shits 3 years old. Your constant posting of that wall of text clearly doesn't have the affect you want it to. I've had more loyal members, countless apps and a 120 plus active raid force follow me and I'm sure they've all seen it but they still chose my guild over your cheating, lying, manipulative and overall cancerous guild.

You been here since day one but still log in and try to wave the same e-dick you now claim is childish and on a dead server because your guild has been eating shit for the better part of 4 months.

Sorry bout your bad luck.

[Nixtar]

It is tough because the competition is what's fun, but it's also extremely rare for one hardcore guild to kill the other one. It's a toss up.

P99 isn't like classic though. On Live you had actual targets for the competition, i.e. the next expansion. Here the only reward is claiming you have the best toys in an ever more crowded sandbox where it is getting harder and harder to ignore the fact the sand isn't sand anymore but foul smelling feces.

When all that's left is bitter and petty competition no wonder the end game is pure cancer.

[Detoxx]

Regardless of what decisions were made by AW in the "ample time" that AM uploaded a fraps video and started harassing and threatening AW leadership, two things are very, very clear when the dust settled and the smoke cleared:

1. AW was willing to negotiate and give AM the benefit of the doubt while the petitions were reviewed. Loot was offered from Vulak. Even the loot that was already looted was offered up via petition to have it moved to AM player. Detoxx declined. The next morning, the offer increased to include future Vulaks. Detoxx declined. It is very apparent that AW made multiple attempts to rectify this situation in a civil and timely manner without burdening the GMs with LawyerQuest yet again.
2. AM (Detoxx) was not willing to negotiate or sort this out at all. By all accounts of his actions, it is clear that once the mob was killed he had every intention of seeking a raid ban. The loot was absolute shit, and yet the loot and 2 Vulaks were offered, and he declined. So if its really about your dragon with shit loot getting cheated from you, why not take 3 dragons worth of loot? It makes no sense from a logical point of view, unless you start from the premise that he is seeking another raid ban on AW.

The horde of AM trolls in here deflecting from these very clear facts are just noise. Notice how they shift the argument to things like: "Well I wonder if you would have offered the loot if it was X,Y,Z" and "Well last time you asked us for THREE Vulaks and now you're only offering TWO!!!" and "AW will do ANYTHING for a Vulak kill" (even though AW offered you 2 uncontested Vulaks??)

They are shifting the conversation to past disputes, hypotheticals, and assumptions that defy all logic. At the end of the entire situation, what happened? You got offered 3 dragons worth of loot. What did you do? You declined. Case closed.

For server staff, the verdict is pretty clear: if AM really had a grievance and wanted recompense, why did AM not take the recompense or counter-offer? AM must not really want what they are pretending to want. Pretty simple really, the loot was shit so you'd rather take your chances trying to get AW a 40-day ban and having 4-5 Vulaks uncontested versus AW's offer of 2.

1. Wrong. You decided to give up half the loot after seeing it was shit. You then assumed GMs would move an item to someone who wasn't on the encounter log, which they will not do and this was only after my raid force logged off.

2. I was and am still willing to work it out but, as I said to Eratani, it's going to take more than 2 Vulaks and a half hearted attempt to give us half the loot. This was met with cussing, raging, and being blocked. I told him to message me if he wants to work it out. No such message has been sent.

3. It is my right and within the rules to refuse a concession just as your leadership has done to me o nearly every occasion. Want to know something funny? We pulled in a Vulak a while back and were sent fraps of something we did wrong. We dropped that Vulak and conceded it. Breaken then petitioned us for training you guys. He did the same thing over a Dozekar we dropped to concede yet I'm supposed to just forget that and "move on"?

[Pheer]

Get some new material. Shits 3 years old. Your constant posting of that wall of text clearly doesn't have the affect you want it to. I've had more loyal members, countless apps and a 120 plus active raid force follow me and I'm sure they've all seen it but they still chose my guild over your cheating, lying, manipulative and overall cancerous guild.

You been here since day one but still log in and try to wave the same e-dick you now claim is childish and on a dead server because your guild has been eating shit for the better part of 4 months.

Sorry bout your bad luck.

Stirring the pot on rnf threads out of boredom in the past isnt e-dick waving and I could not give less of a shit about what has been going on with either guild for the past 4 months. I just like to every now and then make sure people are aware of what an over-immersed pizza baking manchild you are. If they choose to follow you anyway despite that knowledge because they want elf pixels then thats on them.

Personally I think this thread is a bad look in the first place but I do appreciate having something to read when im on break at work or taking a shit. RNF has been a pretty big snoozefest lately especially with how much lulz was shitting it up.

[Loke]

Blows my mind how much good will AW is able to squander. Go back and look at that suspension thread - look how many AM people were on AW's side saying it was a BS suspension. A lot of AM was actually excited for AW to come off raid suspension, but very first week back you guys have to get all sketchy.

I'm not talking about Bruize either - mistakes happen and its not a big deal as long as it is made right. What I'm talking about is how you guys handled it. You offer the loot, which we all know AW would never accept from AM. A full day later you offer 2 Vulaks, which again, numerous past instances show is something AW would likely not accept (e.g. demanding tears, unrelated mobs, etc). Then you come to RnF and make a post about AM's guild leader, like he's at fault and unreasonable for not being grateful for your incremental bullshit offers.

Eratani, maybe the issue isn't that we remember the past, but that you apparently don't. You can't demand to be treated fairly when you've got a history of treating others unfairly. Say AM accepts the offer of the loot, or the two Vulaks - what in your history of dealing with AM should lead us to believe that you'll remember that treat AM fairly next time roles are reversed?

[Uuruk]

Detoxx is a small dick level 20 wizard port spell.

[Daloon]

The blatant amount of lies in this thread from Awakened that have been debunked is ridiculous and insulting. I feel like I'm owed an apology.

Aftermath got royally trained by Awakened and then Awakened had the audacity to make an RNF thread about it, insulting everyone's intelligence along the way.

Awakened did train Aftermath. That is fact at this point. Considering the 2 Vulak offer, I am going to assume Awakened now agrees, despite much of this threads content.

Awakened killed the Vulak'Aerr despite fraps sitting in front of them and a request that the mob not be killed until reviewed. If I can 35-man a Vulak'Aerr for 38 straight minutes, Awakened can 75-man a primetime Vulak'Aerr for 4 extra minutes to review fraps. You still went ahead and killed it, even took DKP bids, and awarded loot.

You comically saw the worst loot imaginable of Druid Arms and Hobalt's War Helmet (Alt-Tier loot according to Awakeneds own loot policy) and was glad to offer it up, after awarding the better piece of course. Amusing.

Awakened then accused Aftermath of deleting Awakeneds' own Youtube video from Awakened's own channel on their own RNF evidence thread. Are you going to come clean on this one yet, or continue to plead ignorance? By the way, original video in this thread is still private. Want to explain why or are you just going to continue to ignore this? I'm repeating myself for a reason. Its...Still...Private... (Your...Evidence... Video...) Is...Still...Private. You claimed he will change it when home from work. It's midnight. What lie # are we are?

Awakened then had to embarrassingly have Aftermath explain to them how aggro works at Iki/Eashen after multiple claims of just about every lie imaginable regarding aggro messages, sneak mechanics, social mechanics, etc, on RNF of all places. Why did you stretch so far on this? At the end of the day, your side of the story is still a private video (and not-so-private video). You do see how ridiculous this looks on you guys, riiight? Do you understand the mechanics now, or continue to spit ignorance? Because we are on page 30+ now, so I would like to clear that one up.

Awakened then tried to upload an edited video that got leaked by their own members and showed exactly what went wrong for Bruize. Turns out he didn't sneak past as promised multiple times by multiple AW officers.

https://i.imgur.com/VVatTbq.png

Awakened then made complete falsehoods about past encounters with wyvern trains, debunked again halfway through this thread.

I will stop there. I just want an apology from Awakened officers and a clear understanding where exactly you stand when it comes to the 10+ lies listed in your own thread. Your video is still private, by the way.

Still waiting on answers from Awakened ITT. And your evidence video is still Private.

[trite]

1. Wrong. You decided to give up half the loot after seeing it was shit. You then assumed GMs would move an item to someone who wasn't on the encounter log, which they will not do and this was only after my raid force logged off.

2. I was and am still willing to work it out but, as I said to Eratani, it's going to take more than 2 Vulaks and a half hearted attempt to give us half the loot. This was met with cussing, raging, and being blocked. I told him to message me if he wants to work it out. No such message has been sent.

3. It is my right and within the rules to refuse a concession just as your leadership has done to me o nearly every occasion. Want to know something funny? We pulled in a Vulak a while back and were sent fraps of something we did wrong. We dropped that Vulak and conceded it. Breaken then petitioned us for training you guys. He did the same thing over a Dozekar we dropped to concede yet I'm supposed to just forget that and "move on"?

Your assumptions are all crap and this is a fake attempt to have real dialogue. It's just you pushing your version of events on a public forum...

[Daloon]

Your assumptions are all crap and this is a fake attempt to have real dialogue. It's just you pushing your version of events on a public forum...

You know an Awakened officer made this thread, right?

[Argh]

Your membership size is not indicative of how many loyal followers you have. Nobody in either guild is really loyal to their leaders-in-name-only. They're in either A/A guild because they want to raid and to do so they need to choose between joining a guild led by a raging psychopath or joining a guild led by a legitimate retard. Most members have rationalized their willingness to put up with either leader because both are largely absent and the bulk of the leadership responsibilities fall on the shoulders of non shit birds.

[Kesselring]

Your assumptions are all crap and this is a fake attempt to have real dialogue. It's just you pushing your version of events on a public forum...

Thats exactly the thing I say when I have no good points to argue.

The art of bullshitting is universal.

[beargryllz]

AW confirmed dead guild?

[trite]

You know an Awakened officer made this thread, right?

When you were in rampage/awakened you shook your head and wondered wtf was up with Detoxx and his "disparaging dialogues." What changed?

Yeah, the OP is trying paint an incriminating picture of Detoxx but is it inaccurate in your opinion?

[trite]

Thats exactly the thing I say when I have no good points to argue.

The art of bullshitting is universal.

Detoxx just makes up shit like there was a conscious effort to do this or that.

If there was an accidental train in North (probably unrelated to who had FTE in the end), how were people who didn't know anything about it at the entrance making decisions to scrutinize the loot and then keep it only if it was good.... That doesn't make any sense.

[Sivaeb]

anyone seen some missing cleric bots? been looking for a few months

[Tupakk]

40 days later.....

A/A finally get unbanned to see the real contenders all along laughing at them for falling into the spiders web they created. Just a simple bunch trying to do big things.

Started with the fall of CSG an easy yet complicated target, the energy moved fast and true as it slipped into AW ranks slowly eating away. We lose a few here and there ( RIP D sorry not sorry) While that’s happening we meticulously raise from the dead some known hero from guilds past to be our puppet to stab AM ( successfully might I add) and watch everything and one begin to fall into place like the pawns they are.

Believe not to believe for it is coming. As we move into the next phase of the master plan.

Those willing to help advance the process which has been laid out just whisper it in guild chat and we will find you, if you are the right person you might make it to our ranks.

Shhhh...
A

[Bruize]

Still waiting on answers from Awakened ITT. And your evidence video is still Private.

Still waiting on answers from Awakened ITT. And your evidence video is still Private.

Are you actually retarded?

I uploaded the video immediately for everyone to see at the time AM included. I was not aware DF was going to make this post causing my youtube channel to get slammed.

I made some videos private for a few hours until i was able to edit out my chat windows and the video was back up yesterday afternoon. Sorry you're too stupid to use youtube.

Noone is trying to hide anything. The subscriptions to my youtube channel went from under 10 to 94 yesterday. I did not ask for that shit and i absolutely have a right to keep my personal conversations private.

[Loke]

how were people who didn't know anything about it at the entrance making decisions to scrutinize the loot and then keep it only if it was good.... That doesn't make any sense.

Who were these people at zone making decisions? As far as I can tell, it appears Diamondfist was making decisions. He also happens to be the guy who picked up the dropped Vulak, then immediately saw Wyverns running around on top of a pile of corpses that was AM's pull team. He posted a video of the pull in this very thread. I don't think it is too big of a stretch for him to think "Hey, if AM is saying they have fraps of my guild training their pull team, maybe that isn't too unreasonable considering what I just saw."

[Daloon]

When you were in rampage/awakened you shook your head and wondered wtf was up with Detoxx and his "disparaging dialogues." What changed?


I didn't deal with Detoxx. But after 4+ years I'd think you know that posting "disparaging dialogues" just motivates him and keeps him around longer.

But I did deal with Awakened "officers" and 85% of them were corrupt Social Justice Warriors which is why I left the guild pretty quickly.

I'm doin just fine now. Still have tons of respect for the IB/Rampage friends and they tell me everything I need to know. This thread reminds me that I made the right choice.

[Detoxx]

Your assumptions are all crap and this is a fake attempt to have real dialogue. It's just you pushing your version of events on a public forum...

What assumptions? I am the single person that deals with any and all petitions in my guild. You are an anonymous poster who probably has no say or pull in any aspect of this game. Everything I said in that post you quoted is 100% truth.

Wheres your leader now? He sent his puppet to get shit on in RnF while he buries his head in the corner, leaving all you guys to hang. Solid leadership you got over there, it amazes me anyone would continue to follow them but hey, to each their own.

Im sure something like a 20 day suspension for training, or a 30 day suspension will certainly show them that they can not do whatever they want and just tell everyone to fuck off.

Oh, wait...

[Ella`Ella]

After discussing it with the partners of Ella`Ella Associates, I've decided to take this case on as my annual pro-bono.

After extensive review of the evidence against AW, I have to recuse myself not only because this case is unwinnable but because nothing would bring me greater joy than seeing that Raid Discussion Post - Raid Suspensión: Awakened

“Awakened is under Raid suspension until June 9”

[Daloon]

Are you actually retarded?

I uploaded the video immediately for everyone to see at the time AM included. I was not aware DF was going to make this post causing my youtube channel to get slammed.


Youtube channel getting slammed? I am going to type this to you as sober as possible: Bruize, you have 4 subscribers and an average of 8 viewers per video on your last 5 videos. Stop making shit up, we aren't that stupid.

I know exactly what happened because I've been told exactly what happened from your own guildmates. You were told to make it private. Your scapegoat was "my youtube was getting SLAMMED (4 subscribers and 17 views on said video at the time).

So yes... Calling your bluff, take it off Private. It's still private as you are calling me retarded. Let the world see the original video that was used in this RNF thread by your own officers as evidence. It's been 24+ hours.

[bspa0700]

Not to get technical, but you were clearly beyond the start of the steps when you got coth'd, and then you got FTE. By definition, that's tracker FTE.

[Loke]

So yes... Calling your bluff, take it off Private. It's still private as you are calling me retarded. Let the world see the original video that was used in this RNF thread by your own officers as evidence. It's been 24+ hours.

This is just unreasonable Dannyl. I'm sure he would upload it, but he was getting slammed.. I think we've all been there. Maybe if YouTube accounts weren't a limited resource and you didn't have to pay to upload videos he could just create another account to avoid the aforementioned slamming, but we all know it isn't that easy. Also, it isn't like Diamondfist could just post it for him, that too would be unreasonable. Its only been 24 hours, clearly that isn't enough time for them to repost their evidence which definitely, 100% shows that they were in now way at fault, because surely they would have if they were able.

Just trust them. It wasn't their fault, Detoxx is the worst, AW leadership is a paragon of fair and reasonable, and you simply just need to trust them on that.

[Daloon]

Are you actually retarded?

I uploaded the video immediately for everyone to see at the time AM included. I was not aware DF was going to make this post causing my youtube channel to get slammed.

I made some videos private for a few hours until i was able to edit out my chat windows and the video was back up yesterday afternoon. Sorry you're too stupid to use youtube.

Noone is trying to hide anything. The subscriptions to my youtube channel went from under 10 to 94 yesterday. I did not ask for that shit and i absolutely have a right to keep my personal conversations private.

You had 3 Subscribers, and now you have 4. Youtube has many fascinating tools.

Bruize I am going to ask you a serious question.. Do you think I am really that stupid? Do you think you can just keep lying to my face over and over again? Do you think 90 people suddenly clicked unsubscribe because 1 video went private? Why am I asking you this shit. You are now a chronic liar, and you have lost.

Oh yeah, and this

https://i.imgur.com/nSUmYdx.png

[Argh]

The real smart play would have been to throw some ads on that video.

[Tupakk]

You had 3 Subscribers, and now you have 4. Youtube has many fascinating tools.

Bruize I am going to ask you a serious question.. Do you think I am really that stupid? Do you think you can just keep lying to my face over and over again? Do you think 90 people suddenly clicked unsubscribe because 1 video went private? Why am I asking you this shit. You are now a chronic liar, and you have lost.

Oh yeah, and this

https://i.imgur.com/nSUmYdx.png

Big ole Dick Dunk

[Nukehard]

Almost a 40 pager and still goin strong, this thread has been great would rate 9.5/10 needs a little more rage

[Bruize]

The video is not private dude and hasn't been since yesterday afternoon.

Clearly I am an idiot because i was actually reading kelzaraz's number of subscribers instead of my own. That doesn't matter though the fact is i got to work and saw this post and realized i did not want people reading my /t /g /gu chat boxes or seeing a couple other videos i had public so the video was private for all of a few hours until i could edit that out.

Please tell me what exactly i am hiding?

Also i was never told by anyone to make my video private, DF actually PMd me on our forums asking me why he couldnt open the video anymore.

https://youtu.be/FypDpoMUndM Uploaded time: April 6, 2018 at 3:57 PM

[khanable]

metadata says 6:47 eastern

<tinfoil>

[Teako]

I am in awakened, but I'm not interested in tribalism or politics. I just want to play EQ with adults. I don't have any problem admitting when I or my guild fucks up. I hate hyperbole and twisting of facts.

I wasn't there but I've seen all the fraps. I looked at where Bruize took off sneak and it's possible he aggroed the wyverns from that spot, depending on server ticks. I even tried it myself a few times. If that's what happened, he was just extremely unlucky, especially considering all the other people running with him who just got lucky with ticks. (The only other possibility, maybe less likely, is that someone behind him aggroed them and died/flopped.)



Pick one:
- I/we actually tried it
- I/we found that the wyverns aggroed 100% of the time

The chance is greater than zero, so it doesn't really matter, but it's definitely not 100%. less than 50%. It's still server ticks. Why bother making this shit up? How are people supposed to take you seriously? By the way, the wyverns aren't a trap. They're just wyverns.



Pick one:
- I've seen the fraps of Bruize obviously trying not to aggro the wyverns
- Bruize "deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE"

Here you wrote out this 10-page parade of evils visited upon you by awakened leadership, I'm thinking "oh shit is all that true?" then you blow all your credibility at the end. How can anyone believe anything you say?

I haven't done much raiding in tov since <Rampage> ended, and already I've seen a few wyvern trains. A couple months ago an AM shaman died to the wyverns and trained them on me as I was waiting to 2ndary; they killed our puller too. Supposedly the same thing happened on Lady M, though I haven't seen fraps of it. Most of the time it's hard to say whether it was intentional, this time it's not hard. It's just something that happens and will keep happening since it's based on server ticks if you aren't sneaking or standing from an FD.

Read the thread. The question was posed earlier for Awakened to decide if they wanted to choose the "we diddn du nuffin wrong!" response, or the "we did it on purpose" response. If he snuck through so innocently the entire way, it would've have to be on purpose by secondarying the person acquiring aggro since he was clearly the only person they were chasing.

If he didn't, it was an accident. Since Awakened is sticking to the "we diddn do nuffin! he snuck the whole way!" it MUST be deliberate, since he couldn't have possibly been the point of agro (which he was) if he snuck the entire way.

It's a cornering move bruh. The point is forcing you to acknowledge that Bruize did not sneak across the hallway thereby making him aggro the wyverns. To deny doing it deliberately you must admit to doing it accidentally. This forces you to mentally acknowledge Awakened's leadership lied all over the place by saying he was sneaking through that entire area.. which he wasn't. It forces you to acknowledge Bruize pulled the wyverns by dropping sneak early, or it forces you to admit Bruize did it on purpose. It has to be one or the other.

You can believe whatever you want.. I was there, dealt with the pre-tween guild leadership of Awakened as Breaken got screamed at in the background by his wife for not taking care of their child for "playing a stupid game", and got caught in the "LOL YOU CAN'T PROVE IT XD" cyclone from Eratani and Co. I was there when I warned your guild repeatedly over your last 3 suspensions and begged them to reconsider the route.. I was there when Eratani told me he was fine "rolling the dice" with server staff after being caught training.

It was nobody else. It was me. I was the one messaging your leader's on skype begging them to reconsider for the sake of their membership -- and they didn't care, because the loot from the target was worth the risk of suspension. They knowingly walked in to 10, 10, and 20 day suspensions on purpose because they thought they could intimidate us out. I even sent Eratani the petitions.

Your guild is going to die because of the leadership's constant decisions to put Vulak`Aerr and Dozekar the Cursed before it's membership base... Not because of Aftermath.

[Bruize]

I know exactly what happened because I've been told exactly what happened from your own guildmates. You were told to make it private. Your scapegoat was "my youtube was getting SLAMMED (4 subscribers and 17 views on said video at the time).

So yes... Calling your bluff, take it off Private. It's still private as you are calling me retarded. Let the world see the original video that was used in this RNF thread by your own officers as evidence. It's been 24+ hours.

https://i.imgur.com/OAguI7l.jpg

Why do you think someone told me to make the video private, and what would it accomplish when everyone saw my video at the time of?

Noone is disputing that the train assisted to me, the whole point of my video was to show that i did not intentionally ruin their pull like Sedyt and Detoxx were trying so hard to claim.

[Daloon]

The video is not private dude and hasn't been since yesterday afternoon.
Please tell me what exactly i am hiding?

Video - Still Private: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaN8iYM95G4&feature=youtu.be

Other than your highly edited video showing your own guilt uploaded 9 hours after the original, it is, in fact, still Private.

Your new and current lie is that you thought all your videos were getting +30 views, your subscribers went from 10 to 94, BUT you were actually watching somebody ELSE'S Youtube channel so it was just all one giant mistake (even those numbers never happened on that channel either)? Got it bro...

Next

[Bruize]

Video - Still Private: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaN8iYM95G4&feature=youtu.be

Other than your highly edited video showing your own guilt uploaded 9 hours after the original, it is, in fact, still Private.

Your new and current lie is that you thought all your videos were getting +30 views, your subscribers went from 10 to 94, BUT you were actually watching somebody ELSE'S Youtube channel so it was just all one giant mistake (even those numbers never happened on that channel either)? Got it bro...

Next

You are clicking the link in the OP bud. There is another link in my post just up the page and it is completely public on my youtube channel and has been since it was reuploaded yesterday afternoon. You are trying way too hard.. for what dude?

[Tupakk]

400

[Teako]

https://i.imgur.com/OAguI7l.jpg

Why do you think someone told me to make the video private, and what would it accomplish when everyone saw my video at the time of?

Noone is disputing that the train assisted to me, the whole point of my video was to show that i did not intentionally ruin their pull like Sedyt and Detoxx were trying so hard to claim.

I like how the first video had the audio of your guild going, "Shit we aggroed wyverns" - and showed you getting butt-blasted to smithereens by the train.

Then the second video was clipped to be without audio, covering chatboxes, and cuts off as the train gets to you.. But you weren't smart enough to edit out you social aggroing that ebon hatchling when the train got near to you.. or the mobs sending off engage messages once you feigned.


You gotta understand -- when your leadership makes bold, allegedly fact-based claims like "He was sneaking the entire way across the hall. I've seen the fraps. It wasn't him" - that means you HAD to have done it deliberately.. Unless they lied.. which they did. Sure, you did it accidentally -- but your guild made no effort to make it right until after they saw the loot, had taken some of it, and realized we had glaring evidence. It was only AFTER they saw multiple angles of the smoking gun showing you training us to bits that they were interested in negotiating. That's why I've been saying Cloki's right -- AW leadership gauges cheating's rewards versus the risk of getting caught.. and it's vile.

You should've dropped, and conceded that Vulak the instant you pulled wyverns on to our pull team. That's the appropriate way to handle that situation.. Instead, you killed it despite being given tons of time/evidence prior, looted it at all, took an item, and offered it up once AW saw the loot was garbage.

I'd like to take a side note to reference you Awakened's charter:

4. Dishonesty and/or greed will not be tolerated. People are more important than items in ALL cases; if you do not believe this, Awakened is not the guild for you.

-- People are more important than items in ALL cases.. Except for when it comes to Vulak`Aerr, or Dozekar. In which case, we're willing to ruin our guild on the small chance our officer core gets the ability to DKP bomb an item they want before we get suspended.

2. No KSing, ninja looting, intentional training, etc.

-- Except for in the raid scene, where we do it literally constantly.. then wonder why our guild is dying because we keep being routinely banned for cheating.

[khanable]

Interesting, the original private video was 32 seconds long, the new upload is 28 seconds long

Must have been a very embarrassing 4 seconds

[Daloon]

Sorry you're too stupid to use youtube.



Clearly I am an idiot because i was actually reading kelzaraz's number of subscribers instead of my own. That doesn't matter though

<Awakened>

[Wonkie]

who were you cybering with Bruize?

[Bruize]

And i admit i am not an expert with youtube's video manager, I do not spend a lot of time dealing with it at all. I saw the subscribed 94 box at the bottom. I was wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/X0mptOX.jpg

The exact same video with my private chat edited out was reuploaded yesterday afternoon and lots of people watched it, you could have went to my channel and watched it yourself too. I am sorry you kept clicking the link in OP. You can clearly see under the first video vulak5_4 that it was uploaded 17 hours ago.

Tell me again what I am lying about.

[icedwards]

I like how the first video had the audio of your guild going, "Shit we aggroed wyverns" - and showed you getting butt-blasted to smithereens by the train.

Then the second video was clipped to be without audio, covering chatboxes, and cuts off as the train gets to you.. But you weren't smart enough to edit out you social aggroing that ebon hatchling when the train got near to you.. or the mobs sending off engage messages once you feigned.


You gotta understand -- when your leadership makes bold, allegedly fact-based claims like "He was sneaking the entire way across the hall. I've seen the fraps. It wasn't him" - that means you HAD to have done it deliberately.. Unless they lied.. which they did. Sure, you did it accidentally -- but your guild made no effort to make it right until after they saw the loot, had taken some of it, and realized we had glaring evidence. It was only AFTER they saw multiple angles of the smoking gun showing you training us to bits that they were interested in negotiating. That's why I've been saying Cloki's right -- AW leadership gauges cheating's rewards versus the risk of getting caught.. and it's vile.

You should've dropped, and conceded that Vulak the instant you pulled wyverns on to our pull team. That's the appropriate way to handle that situation.. Instead, you killed it despite being given tons of time/evidence prior, looted it at all, took an item, and offered it up once AW saw the loot was garbage.

I'd like to take a side note to reference you Awakened's charter:

4. Dishonesty and/or greed will not be tolerated. People are more important than items in ALL cases; if you do not believe this, Awakened is not the guild for you.

-- People are more important than items in ALL cases.. Except for when it comes to Vulak`Aerr, or Dozekar. In which case, we're willing to ruin our guild on the small chance our officer core gets the ability to DKP bomb an item they want before we get suspended.

2. No KSing, ninja looting, intentional training, etc.

-- Except for in the raid scene, where we do it literally constantly.. then wonder why our guild is dying because we keep being routinely banned for cheating.

They say autism isn't contagious but I'm definitely on the spectrum after reading Sedyt's manifestos.

[Zal22]

Get some new material. Shits 3 years old. Your constant posting of that wall of text clearly doesn't have the affect you want it to. I've had more loyal members, countless apps and a 120 plus active raid force follow me and I'm sure they've all seen it but they still chose my guild over your cheating, lying, manipulative and overall cancerous guild.

You been here since day one but still log in and try to wave the same e-dick you now claim is childish and on a dead server because your guild has been eating shit for the better part of 4 months.

Sorry bout your bad luck.

Hurrr...
What's wrong with you?

[Daloon]

The exact same video with my private chat edited out was reuploaded yesterday afternoon and lots of people watched it, you could have went to my channel and watched it yourself too. I am sorry you kept clicking the link in OP. You can clearly see under the first video vulak5_4 that it was uploaded 17 hours ago.

Tell me again what I am lying about.

It's not the same video.. and if it is.. take it off Private to prove us ALL wrong like you are claiming.

Can anyone be more clearer to you dude? Jesus fuck it's page 40 I thought you'd understand by now. Is anything else not clear?

I dont even care about the video, all the evidence is gathered and yall admitted fault. I do care about the chronic lying in your own guild thread that is bashing the guild you just trained the fuck out of.

[Teako]

I do care about the chronic lying in your own guild thread that is bashing the guild you just trained the fuck out of.


This. Is <Awakened> membership/leadership just utterly incapable of honesty?

You're caught. Your own videos show you're caught. Our videos show you're caught. Everything shows you doing it, including your own shit.

Why is the spin machine still going? You're guilty. Eat crow, admit you were wrong, and try to work shit out so your guild doesn't die on another umpteen-hundred day suspension for the same raid mob as always.

[Comoc1]

Damn seems like I missed an epic Vulak. I really missed this drama.

[NachtMystium]

I love how some unrelated people like to chime in with the "you care too much about this elf sim" angle. What exactly are you trying to say? People don't already know they've been playing this game for 20 years on an unhealthy level?

LOL, in the words of Chad warden "cmon now"

[Wonkie]

who were you cybering with Bruize?

Awakened is kill because Bruize couldn't control his horny

[enjchanter]

I've seen some people get pretty angry over Super Bowl games and such

[planarity]

Damn seems like I missed an epic Vulak. I really missed this drama.

You didn't miss much, It's just another accidental wyverns train disrupting a pull. It was exactly like the one you caused on Feb 18th (giving you the benefit of the doubt that yours was accidental, it probably was):

[Sun Feb 18 20:21:37 2018] Satisfiability -> uyan: you killed our aary puller with those wyverns, almost killed me too :-/

Remember? you died right at the corner that the wyverns can see. It happens on both sides on a regular basis, and it will probably keep happening.

[Fragged]

An apology goes a long way when you make a mistake. Instead the Awakened leadership went to RNF and made this thread.

Classy.

[Tupakk]

An apology goes a long way when you make a mistake. Instead the Awakened leadership went to RNF and made this thread.

Classy.

You expect anything less??

[Gozuk]

A lot of wasted energy here

[skarlorn]

I offered him Vulaks as soon as I woke up

[NachtMystium]

A lot of wasted energy here

This just in, people are passionate about things they invest time in. More news at 11

[mcoy]

I liked the part where the tiny dragons killed the lizards trying to kill the big dragon.

-Mcoy

[radda]

Detoxx is a small dick level 20 wizard port spell.

Gobble much? Lol trash, lawl @u

[Skew]

Blows my mind how much good will AW is able to squander. Go back and look at that suspension thread - look how many AM people were on AW's side saying it was a BS suspension. A lot of AM was actually excited for AW to come off raid suspension, but very first week back you guys have to get all sketchy.

I'm not talking about Bruize either - mistakes happen and its not a big deal as long as it is made right. What I'm talking about is how you guys handled it. You offer the loot, which we all know AW would never accept from AM. A full day later you offer 2 Vulaks, which again, numerous past instances show is something AW would likely not accept (e.g. demanding tears, unrelated mobs, etc). Then you come to RnF and make a post about AM's guild leader, like he's at fault and unreasonable for not being grateful for your incremental bullshit offers.

Eratani, maybe the issue isn't that we remember the past, but that you apparently don't. You can't demand to be treated fairly when you've got a history of treating others unfairly. Say AM accepts the offer of the loot, or the two Vulaks - what in your history of dealing with AM should lead us to believe that you'll remember that treat AM fairly next time roles are reversed?


Good post.

Repent your sins Eratani , you can be cleansed with the help of Jesus in 40 days.

[Skew]

After extensive review of the evidence against AW, I have to recuse myself not only because this case is unwinnable but because nothing would bring me greater joy than seeing that Raid Discussion Post - Raid Suspensión: Awakened

“Awakened is under Raid suspension until June 9”

P99's Perry Masons own words : UNWINNABLE

https://i.imgur.com/zb7LXJ0.jpg

[Kegluas]

The real smart play would have been to throw some ads on that video.

God damn I fucking love you Argh

[Son]

I believe Bruize trained. He trained my friends and I in KC 3 times in a row. Pulling entire zone to ZL while they socked VS. Maybe he will finally learn this time. GG

[1999XiL]

To be perfectly honest, its mostly spastics chewing crayons on both sides of this turd painting. But in this particular instance on this particular raid window, AW went and crammed half the box of crayons up their ass and started a dance battle for king turd mountain.

Just sayin. Yall went full potato when you knew you shoulda just gave up the blue crayon. We all know the blue one feels the best when you sneak it down yer pants. But sometimes you need to just pick a new color when the other kids get to the box of crayons ahead of you.

You lost the dance battle, your toilet paper is still comin out rainbows. And now your parents are gonna get called.



tl:dr
crayons don't go in your butt more than one at a time... you could get fissures.

[matticas]

Eratani, maybe the issue isn't that we remember the past, but that you apparently don't. You can't demand to be treated fairly when you've got a history of treating others unfairly.

[Hyjalx]

No matter what happens here, the 20.....30+ day suspensions are getting ridiculous. Why would we want to chase off a dedicated portion of our player base on a time locked server that we all enjoy? This is Everquest and nothing happens perfect in this game.

Remove loot. Suspend guilds from 'X' target for 4 spawns (and the players involved for 2 weeks) and be done with it.

(for reference, I was suspended 2 weeks, and AW conceded x2 Vulak for my train)

Punishing players who have no part of these pulls and likely have contributed to the popularity of this server (and probably at some point, even you) is the saddest part about this situation.

The seeds were planted years ago when ya'll started the petition wars. If guilty, I hope Sirken shows some mercy and realizes this isn't a healthy long term strategy for the server. Either way, Bad call OP to make this post either way.

[RedXIII]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks

Great post. Miss you bro.

Wizard > Druid! <3

[Ella`Ella]

Guilds have been suspended a number of times in the past when they've been found guilty regardless of offering loot. Accepting loot is completely at the plaintiff's discretion, as it should be.

You roll the dice - sometimes you win, sometimes you get another 30 days to watch others win.

[Ravager]

No matter what happens here, the 20.....30+ day suspensions are getting ridiculous. Why would we want to chase off a dedicated portion of our player base on a time locked server that we all enjoy?
After reading this thread why wouldn't you want to chase off "a dedicated portion of our player base on a time locked server"?

Velious isn't going anywhere. Vulak isn't going anywhere. And these dorks are going to spend their entire weekend crying about a video game.

[Linksfather]

Blows my mind how much good will AW is able to squander. Go back and look at that suspension thread - look how many AM people were on AW's side saying it was a BS suspension. A lot of AM was actually excited for AW to come off raid suspension, but very first week back you guys have to get all sketchy.

I'm not talking about Bruize either - mistakes happen and its not a big deal as long as it is made right. What I'm talking about is how you guys handled it. You offer the loot, which we all know AW would never accept from AM. A full day later you offer 2 Vulaks, which again, numerous past instances show is something AW would likely not accept (e.g. demanding tears, unrelated mobs, etc). Then you come to RnF and make a post about AM's guild leader, like he's at fault and unreasonable for not being grateful for your incremental bullshit offers.

Eratani, maybe the issue isn't that we remember the past, but that you apparently don't. You can't demand to be treated fairly when you've got a history of treating others unfairly. Say AM accepts the offer of the loot, or the two Vulaks - what in your history of dealing with AM should lead us to believe that you'll remember that treat AM fairly next time roles are reversed?

This is the best thing I’ve read all day

[NachtMystium]

Can someone edit the Brittany spears video for the song Toxic to make it thread related?

At first I just thought it was hearsay about AW being full on sjw but now this thread has proven it. Great thread though, don't get me wrong. I haven't been this entertained in a long time

[Skew]

fyi , for those interesting including OP , its MR DETOXXIC


She call me Mr. Detoxxic say me fantastic, touch me in me back
she say I'm Mr. Ro...mantic
She call me Mr. Detoxxic say me fantastic, touch me in me back

I'm Mr.Detoxxic say me fantastic touch me in my back she says I'm Mr
Ro...mantic
I'm Mr. Detoxxic say me fantastic touch me in my back she says boom
boom
boom


http://i.imgur.com/ARv2Byz.jpg

[lilyanna]

Lol you nutter!

[Arkanjil]

Both guilds are more similar than either is willing to admit. Some enlightenment:

Aftermath
99% of the "evil" things blamed on Awakened for aren't done on purpose. Thinking guys like Bruize are training wyrvens, because he is so smart and wants to screw up the pull is way off. He's just bad. And bad players make mistakes.

Awakened
Detoxx is the attack dog that Aftermath unleashes, but no one except your leadership ever deals with it. And if you want to know why the Awakened leadership is so mad all the time because he doesn't know what is going on, it is usually because he doesn't. The officers run it.

Lot of truth here. Bruize made a stupid mistake and a lot of other stupid mistakes are being made in not rectifying the situation.

[roboshaman]

fyi , for those interesting including OP , its MR DETOXXIC


She call me Mr. Detoxxic say me fantastic, touch me in me back
she say I'm Mr. Ro...mantic
She call me Mr. Detoxxic say me fantastic, touch me in me back

I'm Mr.Detoxxic say me fantastic touch me in my back she says I'm Mr
Ro...mantic
I'm Mr. Detoxxic say me fantastic touch me in my back she says boom
boom
boom


http://i.imgur.com/ARv2Byz.jpg

Greed aside, can we all agree that AM RNF is a lot more funny/entertaining than AW RNF?

[Shinko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU

[Jonabis]

New idea. All AM members circle jerk on Detoxx and all Awakened circle jerk on Breaken. Last guild to empty all nuts concedes all doze and Vulaks for a month. We do this at the end of each month. Breaken has pretty eyes so I'm not afraid of losing. Detoxx gonna be sad to have all that zerg on his face though :( finally a meta game I can thrive at!

[Sivaeb]

You roll the dice - sometimes you win, sometimes you get another 30 days to watch others win.

Is it a win if there is no other team?
Seems rather boring

[Nibblewitz]

Is it a win if there is no other team?
Seems rather boring

It's the American definition of "winning."

[Maner]

And i admit i am not an expert with youtube's video manager, I do not spend a lot of time dealing with it at all. I saw the subscribed 94 box at the bottom. I was wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/X0mptOX.jpg

The exact same video with my private chat edited out was reuploaded yesterday afternoon and lots of people watched it, you could have went to my channel and watched it yourself too. I am sorry you kept clicking the link in OP. You can clearly see under the first video vulak5_4 that it was uploaded 17 hours ago.

Tell me again what I am lying about.

Odd, since when does editing out the chat window shorten the video length? Perhaps you should refrain from criticizing others in regards to using YouTube. It's up to your officer, the genius who started this thread, to update his link. You actually think people are going to search your account for you?

Great post. Miss you bro.

Wizard > Druid! <3

That is because you have an extra chromosome and are borderline illiterate

[Daloon]

New idea. All AM members circle jerk on Detoxx and all Awakened circle jerk on Breaken.

I heard Breaken has gone fishin' ( IB people will understand )

[snyder61]

Aftermath doesnt even need Vulak loot. Jestuh already has druid arms and incase you have been living under a rock, Tunare earring as well. Detoxx wouldn't threaten and fight for loot Jestuh already has. This whole thread is based off a giant plot hole

[Ravager]

That is because you have an extra chromosome and are borderline illiterate
In the classic movie Doom, an extra chromosome made Karl Urban superhuman and it allowed him to save his hot sister what's-her-face.

[skarlorn]

Aftermath doesnt even need Vulak loot. Jestuh already has druid arms and incase you have been living under a rock, Tunare earring as well. Detoxx wouldn't threaten and fight for loot Jestuh already has. This whole thread is based off a giant plot hole

[kotton05]

I heard Breaken has gone fishin' ( IB people will understand )

but getsome has returned

[Maner]

In the classic movie Doom, an extra chromosome made Karl Urban superhuman and it allowed him to save his hot sister what's-her-face.

While in real life it leads to an abortion 95% of the time in the UK

[Nixtar]

The main issue here is Auld Lang Syne.

[paulgiamatti]

I have to hand it to Awakened they are pretty good at forumquest PR meta-game.

[Linksfather]

Aftermath doesnt even need Vulak loot. Jestuh already has druid arms and incase you have been living under a rock, Tunare earring as well. Detoxx wouldn't threaten and fight for loot Jestuh already has. This whole thread is based off a giant plot hole

Umm I still need 1 Vulak item......Sir....

[Ravager]

While in real life it leads to an abortion 95% of the time in the UK
lol'd

[Ravager]

lol'd
Does this make me an evil person?

[beargryllz]

RIP

[Vianna]

So the suspension for this one will be what ? 50 days when they get back ?

[Whicks]

Maybe they'll get a managers special or something? P99 traffic court needs plea deals lol.

[Maner]

So the suspension for this one will be what ? 50 days when they get back ?

The 2 Vulaks they offered sure seem a lot less valuable when they are suspended for them anyway.

[Mockba1980]

Damn, I decided to have a bit of a lie-in and AW is suspended again!

Special gratz to Diamondfist (sound like a village idiot but he ninja'ed a bartender so!) & to Eratani for his huge superiority complex (being a clone of Breaken is not the best way)

Skew's words true : 40 days (maybe more) with Jesus will help you to clean your dirty behaviour.

[Mauricio]

Sorry you're too stupid to use youtube.


Clearly I am an idiot because i was actually reading kelzaraz's number of subscribers instead of my own. That doesn't matter though


And i admit i am not an expert with youtube's video manager


The jokes write themselves.

[gnatte]

I love these Detoxx hate threads that pop up once in awhile, let the rage flow it just makes him more powerful!

[aaezil]

Nice mental breakdown thread

Its a video game. Maybe go outside - breathe some fresh air.

[aaezil]

The real story here is no lodi or SF for casuals for 40 days :(

[Zekayy]

This thread gave me Cancer.... go outside nerds breath in the fresh air.

[Zekayy]

This thread gave me Cancer.... go outside nerds breathe in the fresh air.

Breathe***

[fan D]

detoxx the destroyer

[spanky_kc]

Don't worry guys, Pantheon is soon to be released after the 50 + 60 days. Would love to actually compete for pixels but it looks like some of your officers like playing DOTA too much.

[Supreme]

Don't worry guys, Pantheon is soon to be released after the 50 + 60 days. Would love to actually compete for pixels but it looks like some of your officers like playing DOTA too much.

DOTA fun.

[Jazzy]

You sad fuckers

[Zal22]

This thread gave me Cancer.... go outside nerds breath in the fresh air.

Just cast Torpor on yourself that will cure it! You do have it, yes?

Oh wait it's clearly in you sig cos you a bad MF!

[Kegluas]

Nope, not talking about those from Kegulaus to Detoxx SoDs that were to hot to handle.


Saving that story breakdown for when I decide I have no intent of logging into p99 ever again. Cause its gonna certainly gonna ruffle some peoples feathers along with the real reason the sleeper was awakened.

"To hot to handle"? What are you implying? If you're trying to claim I RMT'd them to Detoxx you are fucking wrong and fucking retarded. Detoxx doesn't even have them anymore.

Also, please do share the real reason we woke the sleeper. I'm actually curious what kind of bullshit you have to say about it.

Naethyn or Kegluas why you hiding under a 2nd account? and as you got a response 4 pages ago. Go for it, if you have a copy. Otherwise you, me, and the rest of the server is stuck till Bruize is out of work to figure out why its down / re-upload it.

I only have 2 forum accounts bub, Kegluas and Bree Olson. Aside from catching bits and pieces of this thread in the Rampage discord server this is the first time I've actually sat down to read most of it.

You should spend more time worrying about your guild than my Sods/forum accounts and Rampage stuff you know nothing about. Either way though, leave my name out of your bullshit bub.

[beastmode83]

[QUOTE=Detoxx;2686866]1. Wrong. You decided to give up half the loot after seeing it was shit. You then assumed GMs would move an item to someone who wasn't on the encounter log, which they will not do and this was only after my raid force logged off.

Dude your totally wrong, you just spew off at the mouth man. I don't believe you at all bro.

I remember right after the loot was bid on, they announced that no one should loot and that player jumped the gun and looted already. The leadership was going to give you everything just to clear this up to avoid another potential ban. You twist shit that is the end of story.

I didnt even get to 2 or 3 because I know for a fact your full of shit.

[Maner]

[QUOTE=Detoxx;2686866]1. Wrong. You decided to give up half the loot after seeing it was shit. You then assumed GMs would move an item to someone who wasn't on the encounter log, which they will not do and this was only after my raid force logged off.

Dude your totally wrong, you just spew off at the mouth man. I don't believe you at all bro.

I remember right after the loot was bid on, they announced that no one should loot and that player jumped the gun and looted already. The leadership was going to give you everything just to clear this up to avoid another potential ban. You twist shit that is the end of story.

I didnt even get to 2 or 3 because I know for a fact your full of shit.

Except you literally just said someone looted one of the items before your officers offered the loot. So in fact he isn't full of shit and you're just another ignorant sheep.

Too bad giving loot doesn't actually mean shit as no one has to accept it.

I love it when people try and say you're full of shit when they literally confirm everything you have said. Enjoy the next month

[Detoxx]

Dude your totally wrong, you just spew off at the mouth man. I don't believe you at all bro.

I remember right after the loot was bid on, they announced that no one should loot and that player jumped the gun and looted already. The leadership was going to give you everything just to clear this up to avoid another potential ban. You twist shit that is the end of story.

I didnt even get to 2 or 3 because I know for a fact your full of shit.

Ya, try RnF again on your main so we can at least have a good laugh at how retarded you just sounded.

[Detoxx]

Rekt

Does it feel bad that everyone you used to guild with thinks you're useless and were never a part of their success. I can remember many monks from Rampage that were tops at FTEing and making plays and I cant say I remember even one play you made, Diamond.

Wondering how you and at least 3 other monks got those robes. Certainly wasnt based o merit.

[Uuruk]

Does it feel bad that everyone you used to guild with thinks you're useless and were never a part of their success. I can remember many monks from Rampage that were tops at FTEing and making plays and I cant say I remember even one play you made, Diamond.

Wondering how you and at least 3 other monks got those robes. Certainly wasnt based o merit.

Hey bro Velious locked server. No one gives a fuck

[beastmode83]

[QUOTE=beastmode83;2688262]

Except you literally just said someone looted one of the items before your officers offered the loot. So in fact he isn't full of shit and you're just another ignorant sheep.

Too bad giving loot doesn't actually mean shit as no one has to accept it.

I love it when people try and say you're full of shit when they literally confirm everything you have said. Enjoy the next month

Im so glad im not as far up detoxx ass as you are and I definitely will enjoy the next 47 days. Sorry im not nerdy enough for you guys I probably need a break a lot less than the two of you from the way you guys present yourself on the forums. You guys know soo much. Im really impressed how all I see is you guys arguing over encounters that are years old on the forums. What the hell would you do if someone snagged up your girl LOL or your wife. Man I would hate to see how you react when you lose something real.

While your raiding just know your Conceding RL to Awakened.

[beastmode83]

This is my main I have only played on the server for 2.5 years and I dont live in the forums, I dont live in EQ and I really dont care about the politics or your old chapped bed sores.

I checked to see what the status was on this latest ban and for the first time I dove into this depressing black hole you guys and your QQ fest. I am out, yall can respond all you want this isnt a new account just cause I have a few posts. I obviously am not the drama queen on the server.

There is nothing to hide and No I am not the best player in the game so just go ahead and whatever other nerd ass insults you guys wanna throw lol it doesnt phase me atleast I know im better than Gogre

[gkmarino]

Server is unplayable.. virus found "Aftermath"

[Ravager]

Hey bro Velious locked server. No one gives a fuck
It's serious business here. These dorks are dedicating a large portion of their prime years to impress you. ACT IMPRESSED!

[FoxwoodEQ]

This post is just so sad. One one side you have one guild thriving and on the other you have one that's perma banned. I wonder who's in the wrong.