So, let's clear the air, a message from your friendly Dark Ascension Shaman

[Jayko]

To kill the rumor-mill and confirm some things for you guys, Saturday afternoon Dark Ascension was prohibited from engaging major raid targets for a week. This was put in place by the Project 1999 staff as a result of one of our members being caught using third party programs to 'track'. I am not posting the details of how it was discovered, as I hope the method CONTINUES to be employed to find people using these programs and remove them from our community. The offending player was permanently banned by the p99 staff. Were he simply suspended, he would be removed from the guild upon the suspension being lifted. Neither this server nor Dark Ascension has any place for people using third party programs, who are, to be clear, cheaters.

I would like to say well done to the GM staff on this. I don't say this ironically or facetiously. I mean it. It is nigh impossible to detect people using these programs and whenever it is done I tip my hat in response. The penalty also fits. Anyone using those programs needs to be gone, for good. While many of our members are not thrilled with being punished for the acts of one member, the penalty to us is appropriate as well. It sets a good precedent for the server in that when you do these things, you are not risking just your account, but also the right to play unrestricted on this server of your friend and guildmates.

It is my understanding that as a rule the server staff does not discuss a ban or suspension with anyone but the offending player. Furthermore, our members are discouraged from getting involved or starting any forum thread that will inevitably degrade into a flame war. The current situation, however, warrants a response both on our end and as reminder to the community as a whole the ongoing efforts the GM staff go through to curb this nonsense as much as humanly possible. And, just in case it wasn't completely clear from the previous paragraphs as well, this kind of behavior is not tolerated in Dark Ascension.

Some things to note:
I am not a Dark Ascension officer, though this post was OKed by leadership. I post here with the full expectation that replies will get this post moved to R&F, but I figured it was important enough that folks that opted out should at least have a brief chance to peruse it. You will not get a response to replies on this thread; if you want to discuss things in game with me, feel free to shoot me a tell, though I won't give any more explicit details than I already gave here.

Happy farming.

-Jayko
50 Shaman, Dark Ascension
www.darkascensionguild.com
(Yes, I always type this way, even in game.)

[Ind3]

First!

Hacker scum.

[Stefen]

So DA's public response is that they had no idea this was going on.

That's pretty bold, considering the entire server has known exactly what's been going on for several weeks now.

I guess zerglings believe what they want to believe, provided there's a chance for (undeserved) loot.

Personally, I think the entire guild should be disbanded, and all leadership IP banned. Choosing to believe DA's excuse of ignorance is practically criminal negligence.

[Brad_mo123]

Sadly this does not suprise me. Theres some good people in DA but unfortunately about 90% are the same type of person like who just got banned. I dont quite understand why those good people put up with this lack of knowing whats going on in their guild by the officers and im sure theres quite a few who knew what was going on, dont worry, their time will come as well becuase eventually those few good men/women will weed you out and let you be known to the GM's. Try and keep a better watchful eye on your guild next time please and yes I understand it's hard to watch 100+ people who log on only twice a week but thats your problem.

[Gwence]

seems odd the leader or at least an officer wouldnt be the one making this post, and just some random member.

[Pheer]

Nice damage control, but I find it hard to believe durison didn't know about it considering his track record.

[spok]

Gwence posting here....haha the irony?

Is your suspension over yet?

[t0lkien]

It's actually fairly easy to hide from guildmates that you are using these programs... though things get suspicious fast. But when you get to a target first, all is forgiven. If the guild leaders didn't know, they would have at least suspected.

Either way, others will be using them. Good thing for me is it doesn't affect Emperor Crushbone...

[Darenenski]

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/kekllama_/sc2_maphack.jpg

Honestly, we had no idea brawhs.

[William_Munny15]

It's funny how people think a whole guild has a hand in something that one person does. Very rarely does a whole guild know anything the officers do, they don't like pass out a memo to app's and people joining.

[Abacab niggah]

I'm asked to chime in, like I'm going to scold this entire guild and rally behind the player base as they scream "Witch!" and parlay themselves away from this ordeal as though they are not swimming in the same epidemic. You're all guilty as I see it, DA, IB, TMO even lowbies running amok in NK you're all guilty of using these programs. MySEQ isn't that hard to install, it's not even that hard to distribute but y'all act like your clueless, like you have no idea, like this is new, when you all damn well know that the program has been passed around since Tantalar was stacking tonics.

I don't pity DA, I don't even feel a bit of anger towards them but I must laugh at the administrations late action in solving this issue, and they come in with with their zero tolerance mantra, self-satisfied that they stopped one case out of a thousand, and they are opening the flood gates now? After all this time they decide to take action?

Rogean, Nilbog, and Secrets I know you're going to glance over this thread as it makes its way into R&F and before you slap up a few bans and move this to the shitbox I simply have to jeer at you all as you continue to chug around at your own naivety. You put big Abacab permanently in the banbox for training, griefing, and fucking over these same cheaters you just now decided to take action on, in your smugness of the play nice policy you let these people thrive and for that display of biting the hand that feeds you, your project deserves nothing less than a SQL injection as the source is pirated and manipulated and all integrity is raped by the likes of Catte and other hacker trolls.

Admins, you done fucked up and I feel no remorse as this problem surges out of control and population dwindles as you purge, and purge the people that I took stance against months ago.

but let big Abacab set the motion:

Run Rapsody
Run Client

CTRL+1 to set server to localhost

ENJOY!

[girth]

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9600/durison.png

ShowEQ distribution list:

Abacab > Raren > Jaytee> Maladroit > Durison



Furthermore let me drop some doxx:

Raren gave me showEQ

Raren got showEQ from DA leadership as this was passed around during his time in DA when he mailed me the files



Yeah, I'm pretty sure DA leadership had no idea about this...

[spok]

you forgot a post to macroquest2 precompiled dood.

[Abacab niggah]

Girth is correct.

Fuck em' if I'm perma-banned for training DA, they should be perma-banned as a collective whole for the following:


Knowing about, and exploiting dupes
Using mySEQ liberally and distributing the client
2boxxing several characters
Obtaining spawn information via means of DB cracking
Exploiting game mechanics by pulling mobs into certain areas they can't attack PC's
abusing excessive XP quests


That list is huge, but they get to walk away with no action besides a slap on the wrist and a piss poor warning of "Hey don't kill stuff this week, go outside and have a beer! Come back Monday!"

Such integrity by the staff, I love it man!

[spok]

removed

[girth]

Either way - p1999 fails.

I know a few thousand people who may disagree.

[Nebi]

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww250/jh2up/219c2gi.gif

[spok]

I have no doubt many players never experienced intentional trains during raids, poor decisions via gms (no names named) and hax that has been detrimental to their game play.

I have. So I post my opinion - p1999 fails.

[nilbog]

hey bitches. this isn't rants and flames.

[nilbog]

now it is.

[spok]

DA was smart in separating themselves from this situation. I think its noble that a guild would want to stay as far away from hacks and negative playing. Why promote something that only makes the server no fun to play on?

[Hasbinbad]

I have no doubt many players never experienced intentional trains during raids, poor decisions via gms (no names named) and hax that has been detrimental to their game play.
Whoah, what game were they playing? Not tryina flame dude, but it sure as hell wasn't EQ.
I have. So I post my opinion - p1999 fails.
Yer just asking for this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU34/S1XuEqs17lI/AAAAAAAADXk/lJ7t-y2rM9g/s400/tiny-violin1.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU34/S1XuEqs17lI/AAAAAAAADXk/lJ7t-y2rM9g/s400/tiny-violin1.jpg)

[Goobles]

I like pie.

[spok]

Whoah, what game were they playing? Not tryina flame dude, but it sure as hell wasn't EQ.

Yer just asking for this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU34/S1XuEqs17lI/AAAAAAAADXk/lJ7t-y2rM9g/s400/tiny-violin1.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU34/S1XuEqs17lI/AAAAAAAADXk/lJ7t-y2rM9g/s400/tiny-violin1.jpg)

Laff, well maybe I am a bit bitchy about the server. Salty or whatever.

[Goobles]

JAYKO!

[Abacab niggah]

[04:36] <Abacab> Guilds spout the mantra, "Each member reflects what we are about" then treat them as such,if they wish to use such a blanketing statement that these members are an extension of the guilds core values then treat them with a sweeping resolve
[04:36] <Abacab> Disband that guild, IP ban the players, wipe the character tables
[04:37] <Abacab> Cause god knows if I got caughter arguing over a frenzy camp I'd be permabanned on spot
[04:39] <Abacab> one time I even linked an email that showed SEVERAL forwards from DA leadership involving SEQ, that's enough figurative evidence to understand that this whole guilds uses the program, or at the very least acknowledges it's existence in their framework
[04:40] <Abacab> But the guild is taking a 1 week break of "hey guys just go play around in lguk til Saturday"
[04:40] <Abacab> Well fuck! When I trained them over and over, I never got a "Go play in crushbone til Sunday!"
[04:40] <Abacab> Nah I got ass raped on the spot
[04:40] <nilbog> of all the times i tried, and did help you, you're being fucking unreasonable.


I'm totally unreasonable because I want the leadership to be accountable. Because when a huge corporation fucks up with tax evasion only Ted from accounting goes to prison and the CEO, CFO, President and board go to Tahiti for the week while the issue gets sorted out.

The leaders need to be held accountable, because they were dictating and organizing the whole situation even if was just some bum fuck noob using the program, they permitted it, they didn't expel him from the guild, they only PR'd the situation after they were caught. In my opinion they are liable for this members actions for allowing this behavior to occur up until this point, and any arguments against this poor leadership and blatant negligence is mere propaganda to save face.

[Abacab niggah]

That was a convo with Big Nilbog where I was being "fuckin' unreasonable"

[JayDee]

Surprise Surprise

[Yinikren]

You're pretty stupid, Abacab. Stop raging and go play WoW, get a life, just go do something that doesn't involve these forums and innocent people's lives. You're just as bad as the hackers. That will be all.

[Abacab niggah]

You're pretty stupid, Abacab. Stop raging and go play WoW, get a life, just go do something that doesn't involve these forums and innocent people's lives. You're just as bad as the hackers. That will be all.

You're ignorant if you don't understand the gravity of the situation, where administration only removes the pawns and doesn't punish those in charge. It's nothing to do with this one isolated incident because this behavior of lenient, liberal rulings on Dark Ascension's actions as a whole has been repeated since the guild emerged from Fish Bait.

If you think for a moment that because I train raid guilds as a recourse for the douchebaggery that happens outside the microcosmic view of your own little world which hasn't experienced any of these situations first hand, is on par with blatant down the chain-of-command cheating and negligence then you're much more ignorant than I thought and you have no idea about the state of affairs and how this reflects poorly on everybody.

[Abacab niggah]

I played a very bad necro on live that people hated because I stole murks, but that's okay cause I'm a registered member to several animu and furry websites to pass my time.

This also

[Darklake]

Screw ShowEQ, I want to know what the excessive XP quests are.

[Goobles]

Ok I need a little help with fill in the blanks. First XP quest exploiter belongs to a Ranger from Transcendence by the name of _____, he was also a guide..


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/RiddlN/cry.jpg

He inspired me to make this image

[Abacab niggah]

While many of our members are not thrilled with being punished for the acts of one member, the penalty to us is appropriate as well.

Woah! That's some pretty steep punishment! You miss out on some dragon kill but you still get to farm the planes for gear. I'm sure the staff showed equal leniency when I trained you guys and they told me I couldn't hit lavaduct crawlers for one whole week but kobolds were okay... Oh wait no, I was permabanned for my behavior and my guild members suspended for aggroing Nagafen.

[Abacab niggah]

The offending player was permanently banned by the p99 staff. Were he simply suspended, he would be removed from the guild upon the suspension being lifted. Neither this server nor Dark Ascension has any place for people using third party programs, who are, to be clear, cheaters.


Then explain to us why you only remove these "cheaters" after they get the banhammer? Why was DA okay with Raren and Jaytee duping you guys manastones and CT loot out the ass, but when Rogean found out you were quick to deguild them and call them xanax popping idiots that really weren't affiliated with the guild? Did you or did you not give them the loot to dupe?

Why is this situation any different? It's quite simple this response Jayko is simple damage control as opposed to a sincere apology letter, and it's deplorable that your guild has had their hand in the cookie jar for such a long time while you've been blaming and suspending innocent people.

[Gwence]

I gotta say, abacab makes some strong points.

[Skope]

What about the goings-on that happened a couple months ago where those people were banned and no guilds were punished at all? Honestly, I just don't get it. This is not the first time it's happened within DA but it is the first time we see the entire guild get punished for it. I understand you want to separate the cheats from the legit players wearing the same tag, but ultimately if this sort of thing occurs multiple times within the same tag then you have to start considering that it might be somewhat of a pattern. There are really cool players in DA. In fact I knew some of the original members, but when the wheel that's turning for recruitment is so damn fast because of burnout you just never know who the hell you're recruiting. Having 1 bad apple in a high position can set a tone for the entire guild and I think we can all agree -- even some DA members -- that DA has had some bad apples for a while now.

I've stated this a million times over: just get rid of the god damn variance. It serves absolutely NO practical purpose. Poopsock is over and variance didn't even work back then. It will have to get dumped eventually, so just get rid of it now. We'll all know when the damn thing spawns and there will be far less incentive to use cheats like this. Furthermore, as abacab has stated a million times over, it's damn near impossible to truly detect it with 100% certainty unless there's a p99 downloaded program that's coded by the staff and downloaded to our PCs. Frankly, I would love to see it but the GMs have reiterated that they simply won't do that. Solution? Get rid of the stupid variance.

[Skope]

btw, the incident before we had guilds actually parked at spawns *before* they would spawn and in the *particular order* they would spawn. Clearly the officers/raid leaders *must* have known. I can't speak for the recent accusations, though.

[Jenni D]

other guilds appear quite happy to keep their suspended players after they have been found cheating/training purposefully.

i'm not in DA either. just saying. this seems a bit odd to have been applied to DA but not to others.

[Abacab niggah]

other guilds appear quite happy to keep their suspended players after they have been found cheating/training purposefully.

i'm not in DA either. just saying. this seems a bit odd to have been applied to DA but not to others.

Ain't hating on Jaytee cause we bros but...

When Jaytee was banned for duping, he was still in DA on his rogue, so it's not as if DA actively removes those found guilty.

[Slade_the_Slide]

Wait. Who's Dark Ascension?

[Kinamur1999]

At least the second time DA membership has been caught using seq on raid mobs. Thankfully everyone knows you get 4 chances before there's any real disciplinary action.

See you on top of spawn points 2 minutes before they spawn in a week DA!

[Supreme]

DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.

[Kinamur1999]

DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.

Step 1: Use Seq to dominate gods/dragons
Step 2: Sell all loot (seriously check out bobs auctions)
Step 3: Sell Platinum for RL money (Wild shot in the dark theory)
Step 4: Donate a percentage to the server to prevent being banned
Step 5: Profit

It's GENIUS!!!

[Slathar]

DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.

No.

[Molitoth]

DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.

DA wasn't banned because not ALL members cheat... 1 dumbass did and now he's gone. C'mon Supreme, you're a good dude... but be real.

[Abacab niggah]

Let's not devolve this hate thread into a conspiracy theory thread...

[Whistle]

I gotta say, abacab makes some strong points.

One notorious and blatant trainer supporting another such fellow with perhaps the lowest credibility possible. Big fucking surprise

[Secrets]

DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.

i don't think anyone in DA has donated a single penny

we don't care about money. we want a server to be running. we never spend money for personal gain. you are borderline retarded and I actually expected better than that from you to make such bullshit claims.

nilbog manages the money btw. he does a good job of making sure it all goes back to the server's costs.

keep being the uninformed public though it's amusing to say the least.

[Secrets]

also, might I mention that we care about the NPCs more than we care about players. you are nothing but a little bunch of ants to us. you play in our playground and if you break our rules, you get the hurt put down on you.

also the people who get banned are the ones complaining most of the time; mainly because they broke rules in some way and want to do anything to break the rules again. let me tell you that this doesn't work here, never has never will

i suggest you all follow the rules and accept decisions or gtfo.

[fastboy21]

also, might I mention that we care about the NPCs more than we care about players. you are nothing but a little bunch of ants to us.

This is the second time I've heard a dev say something like this. There may be more that I have missed, but it is the second one I have seen myself.

I've never broken a single rule on the server, never two boxed, never run third party software like SEQ, etc...

I've tried to spread p1999 by word of mouth to former guildmates, rl friends, coworkers, etc...

I certainly feel like I am "owed" anything by the Dev Team. If they wanted to they could pull the plug tonight, shut down the server forever, and I would not be able to say anything, in honesty, except that they gave me a great game to play for over a year, that I loved playing, could play no where else, and they did it all for free.

I get that the Dev motivations have nothing to do with making me happy. They do this for their own reasons, and those reasons may have nothing to do with me, the players, the guilds, or anything else except their own personal desires.

I find it hard, however, to believe that you really think the players here are just "a little bunch of ants". As a player who considers himself loyal to your team and loyal to your project, I find it disappointing if the Dev team really doesn't care at all about the gaming public here---then again, I've already said that it would surprise me if that were really the case. I just don't get why the need to post it.

I'm not saying the players should be your motivation to do anything or that your own reasons shouldn't be paramount to put this much time and other personal resources into the project, but don't the player's matter at all to you? I hope you aren't totally honest when you say that they don't.

[fastboy21]

meant to say in previous post:

I am **NOT** owed anything.

critical mistake, sorry.

[Maurk]

I sent a tell once to DA if they could help me Kill sir Lucan because he was up.
They were almost finished raiding and were glad to offer the help.
I had Sir lucan single pulled, and had him running around while I waited for DA's arrival.
Then came the guild Sapentia (and without waiting for lucan to go back to the militia house like he should of)
They just took the aggro (and they didn't even say anything to me, even though they saw me and three others trying to keep lucan busy until DA arrived),
and then DA arrived just after they killed him.

It has been 3 months, and I have never again had the chance to get my soulfire.

Just wanted to thank DA again for trying, and here I shake my fist in anger, as I lost one of my only chances to have a cool fiery sword.

[Brad_mo123]

i don't think anyone in DA has donated a single penny

we don't care about money. we want a server to be running. we never spend money for personal gain. you are borderline retarded and I actually expected better than that from you to make such bullshit claims.

nilbog manages the money btw. he does a good job of making sure it all goes back to the server's costs.

keep being the uninformed public though it's amusing to say the least.

LMAO! I love secrets when he speaks the truth.

[Loke]

HOLY SHIT ABACAB, SHUT UP! No one cares about your plight to get unbanned anymore. You're entire argument is that two wrongs make a right and it is simply ridiculous.

[YendorLootmonkey]

the only way Koota could of seen that Draco spawn was because it was a GM that made himself Draco to catch his ass. So he then decides to petition and ask what happend to Draco and the GM just banned his ass because the GM relized he was using showeq.

There should be lots more of this going on. :) ALL THE TIME.

[mimixownzall]

HOLY SHIT ABACAB, SHUT UP! No one cares about your plight to get unbanned anymore. YOUR entire argument is that two wrongs make a right and it is simply ridiculous.

Fixed BTW.

I don't see abacab as trying to get unbanned, I just see him pointing out some hypocrasy and inconsistent punishments. Anyone who has been in a guild, or in the leadership circles of a guild know what is going on. Too much is always said by people in the know. There is no doubt in my mind that the DA leaders knew what was going on; waaay too much evidence to support it.

[Skope]

There should be lots more of this going on. :) ALL THE TIME.

You can't. People also use druids/rangers/bards and thus makes any accusation worthless, even if they are using SEQ. They can always claim that they hit track and saw it.

I've seen members of various guilds tracking draco/maestro that same way (dragons as well, actually). Seeing a paladin at hate zone in or a necro FD at fear portal is obvious, it's the others that don't get caught that will then cause problems. With variance it just gives people more incentive to do much the same. Without it you'd see far less SEQing going on for raid targets.

People used SEQ back on live as well, but when targets are spread out over a 48 hour period then it gives the ones who use it here a massive advantage over the rest. Only real way to truly catch it is thru a third party program that checks in the background for it and it'd have to be coded by the devs. The last thing they need to be doing is tinkering up a baby monitor. That's why i've championed getting rid of the damn variance; it means that there's 1 less toy that the children can hurt each other with.

[Rareen]

You can't. People also use druids/rangers/bards and thus makes any accusation worthless, even if they are using SEQ. They can always claim that they hit track and saw it.

I've seen members of various guilds tracking draco/maestro that same way (dragons as well, actually). Seeing a paladin at hate zone in or a necro FD at fear portal is obvious, it's the others that don't get caught that will then cause problems. With variance it just gives people more incentive to do much the same. Without it you'd see far less SEQing going on for raid targets.

People used SEQ back on live as well, but when targets are spread out over a 48 hour period then it gives the ones who use it here a massive advantage over the rest. Only real way to truly catch it is thru a third party program that checks in the background for it and it'd have to be coded by the devs. The last thing they need to be doing is tinkering up a baby monitor. That's why i've championed getting rid of the damn variance; it means that there's 1 less toy that the children can hurt each other with.

Yeah then you have 4 guilds sitting ontop of a spawn point waiting for it to spawn in the next 30 seconds. Then the guilds that didnt get the kill shot petition sayin they engaged it first and it would happen on every raid encouter.

[Skope]

You learn to play with each other. Guilds talked, you remember that? That's how it went down on live. and anyone that's claiming that it would be a massive problem is someone who never raided back then nor knows what EQ raiding was/is. Let the children learn to play with each other, it becomes a requirement in kunark.

[mimixownzall]

I used SEQ on live when I played on Sullon Zek. I used it for finding players though, cause tracking was worthless back then for finding players... never worked good at all.

[Rareen]

You learn to play with each other. Guilds talked, you remember that? That's how it went down on live. and anyone that's claiming that it would be a massive problem is someone who never raided back then nor knows what EQ raiding was/is. Let the children learn to play with each other, it becomes a requirement in kunark.

This isnt live. This is a Emulator server with a bunch of "i wanna get all the lewts first". So dont start that shit i remember when i was in DA we tryed to work things out with IB sorry didnt work, You know what they said it ruins the compeitive play in the game which is somewhat true. But throwing 40 ppl at a mob to kill it in 30 seconds doesnt take much skill at all.

[Skope]

Guilds like that were ostracized and everyone avoided them. They were bullied out from spawns and then quickly fell, reformed and fell.

These stories have been written and they always end the same way.

[Hobby]

Finally some good drama. Anyways Koota was the one that got banned because he was tracking draco in fear with his SK. Draco poped he sent out a twit and when everyone loged in and got to fear they relized that Draco was actually never up because a GM tricked his dumbass and the only way Koota could of seen that Draco spawn was because it was a GM that made himself Draco to catch his ass. So he then decides to petition and ask what happend to Draco and the GM just banned his ass because the GM relized he was using showeq.


Wrong


I find it hard, however, to believe that you really think the players here are just "a little bunch of ants". As a player who considers himself loyal to your team and loyal to your project, I find it disappointing if the Dev team really doesn't care at all about the gaming public here---then again, I've already said that it would surprise me if that were really the case. I just don't get why the need to post it.

I'm not saying the players should be your motivation to do anything or that your own reasons shouldn't be paramount to put this much time and other personal resources into the project, but don't the player's matter at all to you? I hope you aren't totally honest when you say that they don't.

Dev's, the coders, have a hardon for coding...the guides, the GM's, have a hardon for the petition que (meaning the players of the server). Although, alot of petitions are some of the most fucking idiotic things ive ever read and i just instantly delete it :/

[YendorLootmonkey]

You can't. People also use druids/rangers/bards and thus makes any accusation worthless, even if they are using SEQ. They can always claim that they hit track and saw it.

Think bigger. Devs have access to the entire EQ Emu code. It would be reasonably trivial for them to spawn a dupe mob named Dracoliche with a notrack = 1 flag, and re-code the tracking interface to not display those mobs.

But because the location/movement of the GM-instanced mob is still getting sent to the client, it would show up on SEQ, create a response from the druid/ranger/bard, and then you can nail them for SEQ use as well.

Bag enough people and the end result should be that anyone using SEQ should be scared as shit that they call a raid force in if they see or react to a raid target popping up on SEQ, because they never know if it's a GM luring them in or not.

[Loke]

Fixed BTW.


thanks btw, I had just woken up. I actually meant "you are entire argument..." though, so umm, yea.

[Rhambuk]

Think bigger. Devs have access to the entire EQ Emu code. It would be reasonably trivial for them to spawn a dupe mob named Dracoliche with a notrack = 1 flag, and re-code the tracking interface to not display those mobs.

But because the location/movement of the GM-instanced mob is still getting sent to the client, it would show up on SEQ, create a response from the druid/ranger/bard, and then you can nail them for SEQ use as well.

Bag enough people and the end result should be that anyone using SEQ should be scared as shit that they call a raid force in if they see or react to a raid target popping up on SEQ, because they never know if it's a GM luring them in or not.

if a tracking class is in the zone Seqing a mob spawn, when they see it on seq I would think they check track just...why not, so when it showed on seq for them but not in game track they might think somethings a little fishy.

on the other note, if we remove the variance and have 3 guilds on lets say naggys spawn point ready to go and he pops, they all engage because theyve been sitting there waiting. If the guild that gets the ks isnt the guild that got first agro, theres going to be punishment, I dont think it would take long before guilds started being a little more reasonable. Of course this isnt the type of behavior we saw in the past...

[Humerox]

This is the second time I've heard a dev say something like this. There may be more that I have missed, but it is the second one I have seen myself....


I certainly (do not) feel like I am "owed" anything by the Dev Team. If they wanted to they could pull the plug tonight, shut down the server forever, and I would not be able to say anything, in honesty, except that they gave me a great game to play for over a year, that I loved playing, could play no where else, and they did it all for free.

I get that the Dev motivations have nothing to do with making me happy. They do this for their own reasons, and those reasons may have nothing to do with me, the players, the guilds, or anything else except their own personal desires.

I find it hard, however, to believe that you really think the players here are just "a little bunch of ants". As a player who considers himself loyal to your team and loyal to your project, I find it disappointing if the Dev team really doesn't care at all about the gaming public here---then again, I've already said that it would surprise me if that were really the case. I just don't get why the need to post it.

I'm not saying the players should be your motivation to do anything or that your own reasons shouldn't be paramount to put this much time and other personal resources into the project, but don't the player's matter at all to you? I hope you aren't totally honest when you say that they don't.

I couldn't have said it better, myself. Back when I seriously played, the reason I fought so hard against DA and all the bullshit they pulled was because I thought there were enough players that wanted to see a clean game this time around that they could be forced out.

Sadly, P99 has turned into exactly what live was. Whoever cheated better won...and the saddest part of it is that most of the members in the responsible guild(s) don't have a clue.

I still think shit can change come Kunark...but the devs need to step on the pissants that ARE ruining their game. The sandbox is only fun if people keep playing in it.

[YendorLootmonkey]

if a tracking class is in the zone Seqing a mob spawn, when they see it on seq I would think they check track just...why not, so when it showed on seq for them but not in game track they might think somethings a little fishy.

Well, at least you'd catch the stupid ones. :)

[Hogwash]

You're only as good as the company you keep.

[Hasbinbad]

also, might I mention that we care about the NPCs more than we care about players. you are nothing but a little bunch of ants to us. you play in our playground and if you break our rules, you get the hurt put down on you.

also the people who get banned are the ones complaining most of the time; mainly because they broke rules in some way and want to do anything to break the rules again. let me tell you that this doesn't work here, never has never will

i suggest you all follow the rules and accept decisions or gtfo.
I love you too Secrets! :)

[girth]

And IB coming on here talkin shit you know you mother fuckers cheat too so dont come up here and act innocent this whole server cheats.

Just so you know, they tried to catch IB the same way, but our trackers aren't using SEQ and there was never an issue. We know because draco's pet was up but draco never was, then it was despawned when inquired about.

Also, if you're going to claim cheating, have some proof. I have yet to see anything proving IB cheats or even trains. Who was the guild that got warned for training last week? DA. Who trained us at Vox days after the warning? DA. Who used to crash zones this summer? DA. Who used to dupe god/dragon loot? DA. Who used to know spawn times before mobs would actually spawn? DA. Who KS'd inny from trans and charm stole island 1 sky mobs from guilds that were killing them to use an exploit vs spiroc Lord? DA. Who broke the old rules and zerg stole a CT that wasn't theres while they simultaneously trained the raid who actually had claim? DA

Abacab is exactly right, how many strikes can a guild accumulate before the GMs realize that nothing will change when the guild leader says stuff like 'if we get banned, we get banned.' It's pretty frustrating when you have to compete against that kind of mentality.

[Humerox]

IB doesn't need defending...all things considered, it's been a positive influence on the server.

[Whistle]

Inny was a bizarre technicality of da aggroin first and getting dted, then trans aggroin with a puller right b4 we engaged.

You rush vox every time we come in and train yourselves by pullin her and all her shit to king or gate area--this after ur puller lev exploits up thru the hole in king area btw.

How was it an exploit to attempt spiroc lord using charm pets? Btw the othrr guild killing em was you (ib) for no reason other than to screw with us.

[nilbog]

I find it hard, however, to believe that you really think the players here are just "a little bunch of ants". ...
I'm not saying the players should be your motivation to do anything or that your own reasons shouldn't be paramount to put this much time and other personal resources into the project, but don't the player's matter at all to you? I hope you aren't totally honest when you say that they don't.

Well, think about it this way. EQlive got completely fucked by listening to its playerbase. We don't want this looking or feeling like wow, so opinions on how we should run shit are dismissed.

At the end of the day, Do we ban people? Do we make new content? Are you allowed to play it? Are there guides/GMs resolving issues? Do we fix our mistakes? Are bugs fixed? The server being up every day should be a testament of how we feel about the players.

DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.

Still on with this? If you want conspiracy theories, I can do the same. Aren't you the one who wanted to 'throw money' at a new server, so you guys could have a rotation game? Once again, no thanks. It's getting old.


Sadly, P99 has turned into exactly what live was. Whoever cheated better won.

Let's see if I got this right.

-Exactly like live hm. Like how they never banned anyone for trying to cheat, only exploit.
-Dark Ascension, if that's who you're referring to, won somehow.

I still think shit can change come Kunark...but the devs need to step on the pissants that ARE ruining their game. The sandbox is only fun if people keep playing in it.-We banned someone, and because of this, the game is doomed.
-It wasn't enough for you.
-Players will leave this sandbox because someone got banned, and everyone now knows about it.

Makes no sense bro.

[Bodeanicus]

You're ignorant if you don't understand the gravity of the situation, where administration only removes the pawns and doesn't punish those in charge. It's nothing to do with this one isolated incident because this behavior of lenient, liberal rulings on Dark Ascension's actions as a whole has been repeated since the guild emerged from Fish Bait.

If you think for a moment that because I train raid guilds as a recourse for the douchebaggery that happens outside the microcosmic view of your own little world which hasn't experienced any of these situations first hand, is on par with blatant down the chain-of-command cheating and negligence then you're much more ignorant than I thought and you have no idea about the state of affairs and how this reflects poorly on everybody.

It's none of your concern. You've been shit canned. 86'd. Shown the door. Told to get the fuck out. Why don't you show some grace and take a fucking hint?

[Lazortag]

Inny was a bizarre technicality of da aggroin first and getting dted, then trans aggroin with a puller right b4 we engaged.


I don't like to get involved in the inter-guild drama but this is simply not true. Rogean said that DA was first to engage but after the first player engaged he got DT'd, which made Inny disengage, going for the next player who had aggroed it, who was from another guild. It's a bizarre situation sure, but it was legitimate and could be thoroughly proven, and by no means a mere "technicality". Secondly, DA had no legitimate claim over that boss spawn because it was effectively proven that one of their members had cheated to figure out when it was going to spawn (this was right before several players were banned for being able to predict when bosses would spawn, so I can only assume that DA had mobilized all the way up there at the exact time Inny was spawning only because they had cheated. At least, this is what everyone at the time surmised and I don't think anyone is realistically denying it now). It was also acknowledged that it was just generally douchey for you guys to leapfrog the other guild (trans?), but I suppose that's neither here nor there if it's within the rules.

[Loke]

Words

Anon DA member making ridiculous claims. Not even going to argue any of these points if you're not going to put a name behind your post.

[Magnavox]

I gotta say, abacab makes some strong points.

how could you ever agree with this guy. i don't put a question mark because it's more of a truism; never agree with abacab. his whole purpose in being is to falsely skew your perception.

[Humerox]

[QUOTE=nilbog;181235}Let's see if I got this right.

-Exactly like live hm. Like how they never banned anyone for trying to cheat, only exploit.
-Dark Ascension, if that's who you're referring to, won somehow.

-We banned someone, and because of this, the game is doomed.
-It wasn't enough for you.
-Players will leave this sandbox because someone got banned, and everyone now knows about it.

Makes no sense bro.[/QUOTE]

Makes no sense the way you took it...this wasn't a slam against you or the server, it was a slam at some the dirtbags that contaminate it.

Good players will NOT leave because scumbags are banned. I think you guys are too lenient...but that's just an opinion.

[Humerox]

Quote fail.

Let's see if I got this right.

-Exactly like live hm. Like how they never banned anyone for trying to cheat, only exploit.
-Dark Ascension, if that's who you're referring to, won somehow.

-We banned someone, and because of this, the game is doomed.
-It wasn't enough for you.
-Players will leave this sandbox because someone got banned, and everyone now knows about it.

Makes no sense bro.

Makes no sense the way you took it...this wasn't a slam against you or the server, it was a slam at some the dirtbags that contaminate it.

Good players will NOT leave because scumbags are banned. I think you guys are too lenient...but that's just an opinion.

[Whistle]

Anon DA member making ridiculous claims. Not even going to argue any of these points if you're not going to put a name behind your post.

I have been there for each and every issue that is being discussed here. How many different people could I really be Loke? Btw are you gonna guild hop over to the next shiny guild after IB gets tired of your poor attitude too? Actually nm, you fit in well with the likes of people like Gwence who train the fuck out of us and any other competition as you see fit.

[Allizia]

The ban itself does nothing, a guild this size can afford to privately sponsor cheaters with a backup plan in the rare case that the person is caught(characters and accounts given to the guild by members who quit, I know I have access to at least 10 level 50 chars)

I'd wager the offender was back in DA within an hour under a different name with more knowledge of how to avoid getting caught =P

The week raiding ban is the $$$ though, this is an actual punishment to all involved or those who turned a blind eye etc. Should make it the norm, 2 weeks with /guild disband for 3rd offense, no warnings or excuses to really drive the point home.

[girth]

I have been there for each and every issue that is being discussed here. How many different people could I really be Loke? Btw are you gonna guild hop over to the next shiny guild after IB gets tired of your poor attitude too? Actually nm, you fit in well with the likes of people like Gwence who train the fuck out of us and any other competition as you see fit.

You guys get a guild warning about training yet you still have the balls to call out others for it? GTFO

[Whistle]

I'd wager the offender was back in DA within an hour under a different name with more knowledge of how to avoid getting caught =P

If he were allowed to return, I would not stay. I am certain that this is true of many other members.

[Loke]

I have been there for each and every issue that is being discussed here. How many different people could I really be Loke? Btw are you gonna guild hop over to the next shiny guild after IB gets tired of your poor attitude too? Actually nm, you fit in well with the likes of people like Gwence who train the fuck out of us and any other competition as you see fit.

That is why I am wondering - and if you remember correctly, I left DA for a number of reasons, including but not limited to the guild leaders willingness to harbor known cheaters (I can list some if you really want). I think anyone who knows me, including the majority of DA members that were there when I was would agree that I have been nothing but a stand up player the entire time I've been on this server. Feel free to continue anonymously making ridiculous claims and bashing me though.

[Whistle]

You were stripped of your title of officer due to a poor attitude. After this you ragequit. Good day sir.

[Hasbinbad]

You were stripped of your title of officer due to a poor attitude. After this you ragequit. Good day sir.
lol

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[Loke]

You were stripped of your title of officer due to a poor attitude. After this you ragequit. Good day sir.

You clearly have your facts straight... oh, wait...

As you can see below, I was not stripped of my title, I resigned as an officer and left the guild. Keep making stuff up though - disproving it only destroys your credibility on your other ridiculous claims...

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[Rakazi]

lol

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You have taken my Boxxy birginity.

[Magnavox]

there is "a lot" of space in space

[Mountaineer]

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure DA leadership had no idea about this...

Nice Loke....you and Girth had the SAME EXACT conversation. Also you both changed it too. GJ

[Loke]

Nice Loke....you and Girth had the SAME EXACT conversation. Also you both changed it too. GJ

err, Girth took that screen from a previous post. Also, where did I change it? The one Girth used did have a bit cut out.. the one I posted is the original with only guild chat blacked out. Why would girth be having a conversation with Durison about leaving the guild and resigning as an officer lol?

[Jeah]

So DA's public response is that they had no idea this was going on.

That's pretty bold, considering the entire server has known exactly what's been going on for several weeks now.

I guess zerglings believe what they want to believe, provided there's a chance for (undeserved) loot.

Personally, I think the entire guild should be disbanded, and all leadership IP banned. Choosing to believe DA's excuse of ignorance is practically criminal negligence.

You do realize this whole strongly worded speech could be applied to so many other guilds on this server. Especially IB. So it seems like you are putting a little too much emphasis on one guild when it's not just one guild doing it.

[Jeah]

Just so you know, they tried to catch IB the same way, but our trackers aren't using SEQ and there was never an issue. We know because draco's pet was up but draco never was, then it was despawned when inquired about. I still love how all this drama still continues months later, no one could ever decide on a rotation that would be far too mature and intelligent. You realize that people in your guild HAVE used SEQ, maybe they smartened up? Also there are about a dozen dual boxers in both guild, there's another version of cheating. I know people love to play the innocent card and act like their guild never did anything, but please grow up.

[sobchak123]

Holy shit lol @ the other raiding guilds who are trying to act like they don't use ShowEQ or exploit on an EMU server.

STFU hypocrites. All you motherfuckers do it.

[Rhambuk]

You do realize this whole strongly worded speech could be applied to so many other guilds on this server. Especially IB. So it seems like you are putting a little too much emphasis on one guild when it's not just one guild doing it.

I'm curious who these "so many other guilds" are.

I know my guild doesn't and I've only ever heard rumors of da/ib using it, not so much as a rumor of any other guild ever using it or I think wed see a few more guilds sitting around waiting for gods/dragons to spawn as there are many that are capable....

[girth]

Holy shit lol @ the other raiding guilds who are trying to act like they don't use ShowEQ or exploit on an EMU server.

STFU hypocrites. All you motherfuckers do it.

If that were the truth, <Reign> would still be around.

[Gwence]

Hey dumbass VD (nice guild acronym btw) member, STFU moron, if you have NAMES of people in IB using cheat software fucking POST THEM, expose them, and present evidence, or just STFU.

The weak fucking attempts at slander are pretty pathetic and offensive.

We got the same test DA got and passed, and I fully expect and hope the GM's continue to test us, and other guilds as well. We have never once in the 13 months this server has been around been in a bad spotlight for active hacks and what not.

You want to call me a trainer or wahtever other bullshit you can pull out of your ass, that's fine. Calling us cheaters, however, when their has NEVER been one fucking nanometer of evidence to support it is fucking ignorant bullshit, and if you had any intelligence whatsoever you would just stick to calling me a trainer and girth a cumguzzler!!

[girth]

Weird. Forum doesn't like arrow tags.

If that were the truth, Reign would still be around.

[Pheer]

I still love how all this drama still continues months later, no one could ever decide on a rotation that would be far too mature and intelligent. You realize that people in your guild HAVE used SEQ, maybe they smartened up? Also there are about a dozen dual boxers in both guild, there's another version of cheating. I know people love to play the innocent card and act like their guild never did anything, but please grow up.

Hey guys I heard jeah is into bestiality and is a racist irl.


See how easy it is to make unsubstantiated claims? Theres been multiple instances of concrete proof that DA was cheating, and none of IB. Post some proof or troll elsewhere.

[sobchak123]

If that were the truth, <Reign> would still be around.

Just shut the fuck up

Every guild on this server has players that use ShowEQ. Hell, IB has had players banned for using Macroquest and 2 boxing

So just shut your fucking ugly face

[Loke]

Holy shit lol @ the other raiding guilds who are trying to act like they don't use ShowEQ or exploit on an EMU server.

STFU hypocrites. All you motherfuckers do it.

Everyone else is doing it is the defense you're going to go with?

I don't mean to sound like your mother, but if everyone else jumped off a bridge...

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7844/jumpingbridge.jpg

...maybe.

Seriously, Props to Jayko for manning up and discussing this. He didn't make excuses and I sincerely believe he didn't know and doesn't support cheating. I don't think the same ban be said for everyone in DA though...

[Gwence]

once, again...

names please?

[Jeah]

Hey dumbass VD (nice guild acronym btw) member, STFU moron, if you have NAMES of people in IB using cheat software fucking POST THEM, expose them, and present evidence, or just STFU.

The weak fucking attempts at slander are pretty pathetic and offensive.

We got the same test DA got and passed, and I fully expect and hope the GM's continue to test us, and other guilds as well. We have never once in the 13 months this server has been around been in a bad spotlight for active hacks and what not.

You want to call me a trainer or wahtever other bullshit you can pull out of your ass, that's fine. Calling us cheaters, however, when their has NEVER been one fucking nanometer of evidence to support it is fucking ignorant bullshit, and if you had any intelligence whatsoever you would just stick to calling me a trainer and girth a cumguzzler!!

If you are talking to me I'm not in VD. I just think most raid guilds on here are full of greedy people. Sorry I don't have concrete proof for cheating but acting like only your biggest "opponent" does it is so childish, congratulations on passing your test. What about all the people in your guild who dual box? I guess I will start taking videos of that because it's blatantly obvious.
Also if we can get some more posts like this in the thread to keep things interesting, thank you.

[Gwence]

how could you ever agree with this guy. i don't put a question mark because it's more of a truism; never agree with abacab. his whole purpose in being is to falsely skew your perception.

I didnt say I agree'd with him I said he made some strong points, because he does.

[Pheer]

Just shut the fuck up

Every guild on this server has players that use ShowEQ. Hell, IB has had players banned for using Macroquest and 2 boxing

So just shut your fucking ugly face

Who? reiker?

I love how these posts are always just general accusations. How about you list some names.

[Trystych]

You do realize this whole strongly worded speech could be applied to so many other guilds on this server. Especially IB. So it seems like you are putting a little too much emphasis on one guild when it's not just one guild doing it.

If you are implying that IB uses or condones a method other than mashing a track button or visual confirmation for boss spawns, you are wrong. If there is "not just one guild doing it" then whoever else you are insinuating are cheaters is certainly not us.

I personally do close to 40 hours a week of tracking, if activity logs exist for player actions mine would show using the track feature pretty damn close to the cooldown.

Slinging bullshit without any base for accusation is slanderous and petty.

[Gwence]

my bad for assuming your guild affiliation then, but the point remains, what point is there in bringing heresay into this without some solid names or evidence.

Please do attempt to video 2-boxers and cheaters in ib, I'll tell you right now you may end up disappointed you cant find any =(.

[Jeah]

If you are implying that IB uses or condones a method other than mashing a track button or visual confirmation for boss spawns, you are wrong. If there is "not just one guild doing it" then whoever else you are insinuating are cheaters is certainly not us.

I personally do close to 40 hours a week of tracking, if activity logs exist for player actions mine would show using the track feature pretty damn close to the cooldown.

Slinging bullshit without any base for accusation is slanderous and petty.

Well that's fine if you want to fess up to tracking for 40 hours a week. I'd guess those pixels are pretty important to you guys. Also Loke I'm not in DA, but thanks for the sentiment.

[Mountaineer]

Woo! Im in a picture! I feel perdy. Also, I see that im the first one down off the bridge. Must be because I'm a troll, so much for a feather and bowling ball falling at the same speed...

[Jeah]

my bad for assuming your guild affiliation then, but the point remains, what point is there in bringing heresay into this without some solid names or evidence.

Please do attempt to video 2-boxers and cheaters in ib, I'll tell you right now you may end up disappointed you cant find any =(.

I have video of 2 of them, just waiting for a good time to use it. I'm not going to say their names now, that would ruin the fun.

[Gwence]

notice also that ib and divinity clash at times and bark back and forth at one another, but to my knowledge no one from either guild has included the accusation of being cheaters to either side.

interesting eh?

[Loke]

Well that's fine if you want to fess up to tracking for 40 hours a week. I'd guess those pixels are pretty important to you guys. Also Loke I'm not in DA, but thanks for the sentiment.

My bad, I just remember you were back in the day (you're the druid right? or am I confusing names.. just assumed you still were). Honestly, I kind of struggled choosing who to put on there and just went with the first DA names that I came across (save a couple that I had off the top of my head).

[Jeah]

My bad, I just remember you were back in the day (you're the druid right? or am I confusing names.. just assumed you still were). Honestly, I kind of struggled choosing who to put on there and just went with the first DA names that I came across (save a couple that I had off the top of my head).

Yes I was in DA. I'm not saying they have never done anything wrong, they most obviously have or this rant thread wouldn't exist. I guess all I'm trying to say is that it goes both ways, I've seen it time and time again. Sorry I don't have hard evidence or if I was just misinterpreting people using Macroquest or ShowEQ or whatever it is. The Dual boxing part doesn't need much interpretation when you see a video of someone doing it though.

[Gwence]

what are you the jay edgar hoover or eq or something? Post the damn vids if you got them.


Also, this thread has alot of tags!

[Whistle]

notice also that ib and divinity clash at times and bark back and forth at one another, but to my knowledge no one from either guild has included the accusation of being cheaters to either side.

interesting eh?

They have had no such trouble calling you trainers, and I have spoken with multiple Divinity who came up with the same culprit who brings those lovely mobs to us. That would be Gwence.

[Jeah]

what are you the jay edgar hoover or eq or something? Post the damn vids if you got them.


Also, this thread has alot of tags!

You already told me what to think of you. Why would I post the videos here first, they are going to a GM duh...

[Pheer]

Yes I was in DA. I'm not saying they have never done anything wrong, they most obviously have or this rant thread wouldn't exist. I guess all I'm trying to say is that it goes both ways, I've seen it time and time again. Sorry I don't have hard evidence or if I was just misinterpreting people using Macroquest or ShowEQ or whatever it is. The Dual boxing part doesn't need much interpretation when you see a video of someone doing it though.

stopped reading there

[Skope]

They have had no such trouble calling you trainers, and I have spoken with multiple Divinity who came up with the same culprit who brings those lovely mobs to us. That would be Gwence.

Not that I like Gwence or need to feel the need to defend him at all, but I can most definitely say that he's never trained us. He's certainly trained others, but to my knowledge never any members of Divinity.

[Gwence]

They have had no such trouble calling you trainers, and I have spoken with multiple Divinity who came up with the same culprit who brings those lovely mobs to us. That would be Gwence.

that's fine, Im sure their's plenty of people out there that think I train maliciously.. you can keep thinking that all you want I dont care. The point is their's no cheating accusations between us.

[Whistle]

/shrug I've talked about Gwence with Barfight and Trimm so

[Supreme]

i don't think anyone in DA has donated a single penny

we don't care about money. we want a server to be running. we never spend money for personal gain. you are borderline retarded and I actually expected better than that from you to make such bullshit claims.

nilbog manages the money btw. he does a good job of making sure it all goes back to the server's costs.

keep being the uninformed public though it's amusing to say the least.

O'Really?

Borderline retarded....this coming from the EQemu flake him/herself!

Perhaps you should consult with the powers that be before you try and promote your "i don't think anyone in DA has donated a single penny".

[Supreme]

also, might I mention that we care about the NPCs more than we care about players. you are nothing but a little bunch of ants to us. you play in our playground and if you break our rules, you get the hurt put down on you.

also the people who get banned are the ones complaining most of the time; mainly because they broke rules in some way and want to do anything to break the rules again. let me tell you that this doesn't work here, never has never will

i suggest you all follow the rules and accept decisions or gtfo.

Spoken like a true retard. How have you made it this far in life i cannot be sure.

[Supreme Retard]

Also, this thread has alot of fags!

Fixed. How'd that suspension for training go for you Gwence?

[Gwence]

I never got suspended for training so.... well, I guess?

[Supreme Retard]

Spoken like a true retard. How have you made it this far in life i cannot be sure.

So much irony!

By the way, how's it going on EZ Server Supreme? Your awesome guild still using 3rd party cheat software over there too, or did you reserve that honor for P99 only?

[Jeah]

Refreshing this thread furiously. We are really going places now. :cool:

[Hasbinbad]

so much for a feather and bowling ball falling at the same speed...
That's only in a theoretical vaccuum.

[Humerox]

Resistance...

[Supreme]

So much irony!

By the way, how's it going on EZ Server Supreme? Your awesome guild still using 3rd party cheat software over there too, or did you reserve that honor for P99 only?

What 3rd party cheat software are you referring to?

You mean the one that the EZ Server Admin has approved for use on EZ?

If so then to answer your question, fine,no and no. We play THF and PEQ as well.

[Rareen]

I never got suspended for training so.... well, I guess?

Keep sucking that dick

[Rareen]

What 3rd party cheat software are you referring to?

You mean the one that the EZ Server Admin has approved for use on EZ?

If so then to answer your question, fine,no and no. We play THF and PEQ as well.

Supreme are you truly fucking stupid? Your prob one of the biggest cheaters on this server

[Ledzepp02]

I never got suspended for training so.... well, I guess I need to be banned for it?

Fixed

[Ponden]

Supreme remember when you posted a screenshot of your guild standing next to a named's corpse with "Leader of Transcendence" under your name?? You didn't realize that was showing when you posted that picture!

[Supreme]

Supreme are you truly fucking stupid? Your prob one of the biggest cheaters on this server


"Prob" not.

[Rareen]

Koota said the same thing you all said you hate cheaters blah blah. He just was stupid about it and got caught because he is a fucking moron

[Supreme]

Supreme remember when you posted a screenshot of your guild standing next to a named's corpse with "Leader of Transcendence" under your name?? You didn't realize that was showing when you posted that picture!

Yep i do remember!

OMG he has a program that shows he is the leader of Transcendence. That gives them an OVERWHELMING advantage! Even worse that program lets him see the actual "con" of the mob without even "considering" it!

Definitely an unfair advantage!

Please continue.

[Ponden]

That program can enable you the ability to /target a mob from across the zone, easy non-Ranger/Druid/Bard track system. Not to mention, its just a trashy way to claim you don't cheat when you run MacroQuest2 during raids. Please, come back to P99 soon! We miss Trannies.

[Supreme]

Please, come back to P99 soon! We miss Trannies.

I know.

[Arkis]

Lol linked to this thread by a friend.

This shit is hilarious. Makes me go "man P99, I remember when I played on there".

Have fun kids. Sidenote: You don't really see Abacab's point until you've quit the game. Pretty funny shit ^.^

[Abacab niggah]

http://i56.tinypic.com/15ecqyo.jpg

[Zarcath]

-Exactly like live hm. Like how they never banned anyone for trying to cheat, only exploit.
-Dark Ascension, if that's who you're referring to, won somehow.

Dude, we banned cheaters.

What some of you guys fail to realize is that catching people who use SEQ takes time and resources. While it might be obvious to you, the player, it still requires a person on the staff to observe the same behavior. These guys are just volunteers and they want to play too, you know.

You should also understand that Live GM's weren't hired for their sherlock holmesness. They weren't hired to catch cheaters, they were hired to manage volumes of player complaints. The rank and file GM's were not supposed to become too involved with investigating cheaters because it took too much time away from handling regular complaints.

With P99 it's probably easier to convict, in that sense that they don't really need to come up with a convincing case to some middle-manager that someone is cheating.

[Zarcath]

Dude, we banned cheaters.

What some of you guys fail to realize is that catching people who use SEQ takes time and resources. While it might be obvious to you, the player, it still requires a person on the staff to observe the same behavior. These guys are just volunteers and they want to play too, you know.

You should also understand that Live GM's weren't hired for their sherlock holmesness. They weren't hired to catch cheaters, they were hired to manage volumes of player complaints. The rank and file GM's were not supposed to become too involved with investigating cheaters because it took too much time away from handling regular complaints.

With P99 it's probably easier to convict, in that sense that they don't really need to come up with a convincing case to some middle-manager that someone is cheating. It's a lot easier to ban someone who isn't a paying customer.

[Zarcath]

woops, meant to edit but thats actually a quote button

[Hasbinbad]

So much irony!

By the way, how's it going on EZ Server Supreme? Your awesome guild still using 3rd party cheat software over there too, or did you reserve that honor for P99 only?

What 3rd party cheat software are you referring to?

You mean the one that the EZ Server Admin has approved for use on EZ?

If so then to answer your question, fine,no and no. We play THF and PEQ as well.

Supreme are you truly fucking stupid? Your prob one of the biggest cheaters on this server

Supreme remember when you posted a screenshot of your guild standing next to a named's corpse with "Leader of Transcendence" under your name?? You didn't realize that was showing when you posted that picture!

"Prob" not.

Yep i do remember!

OMG he has a program that shows he is the leader of Transcendence. That gives them an OVERWHELMING advantage! Even worse that program lets him see the actual "con" of the mob without even "considering" it!

Definitely an unfair advantage!

Please continue.

That program can enable you the ability to /target a mob from across the zone, easy non-Ranger/Druid/Bard track system. Not to mention, its just a trashy way to claim you don't cheat when you run MacroQuest2 during raids. Please, come back to P99 soon! We miss Trannies.
Guys guys guys..

Don't fuck with supreme, remember, those guys are from p50 on evony..

They're .. kind of a big deal.

[girth]

/shrug I've talked about Gwence with Barfight and Trimm so

Same Barfight that was training Dozekar in sky yesterday? Yeaaaah...

[Supreme Retard]

Same Barfight that was training Dozekar in sky yesterday? Yeaaaah...

Same Gwence that's repeatedly trained VD, DA and Divinity in the past 2 weeks, recently been suspended for training and repeatedly comes across as a mental midget on these forums? Yeaaaah...

[vinx]

Hey dumbass VD (nice guild acronym btw) member, STFU moron, if you have NAMES of people in IB using cheat
software fucking POST THEM, expose them, and present evidence, or just STFU.

Guilty much? why start tossin our name around when that dude didnt even mention IB in his post?
hitting pretty close to home or what?
and the acronym is pretty funny eh? if your trying to be sarcastic eh, sorry not workin







The weak fucking attempts at slander are pretty pathetic and offensive.
I agree

[Stefen]

Something tells me IB doesn't promote to officer rank based on communication skills.

Every time Gwence posts, I gain a little more understanding of why IB needs to resort to training.

[William_Munny15]

Hey dumbass VD (nice guild acronym btw) member, STFU moron, if you have NAMES of people in IB using cheat software fucking POST THEM, expose them, and present evidence, or just STFU.

The weak fucking attempts at slander are pretty pathetic and offensive.

We got the same test DA got and passed, and I fully expect and hope the GM's continue to test us, and other guilds as well. We have never once in the 13 months this server has been around been in a bad spotlight for active hacks and what not.

You want to call me a trainer or wahtever other bullshit you can pull out of your ass, that's fine. Calling us cheaters, however, when their has NEVER been one fucking nanometer of evidence to support it is fucking ignorant bullshit, and if you had any intelligence whatsoever you would just stick to calling me a trainer and girth a cumguzzler!!

Who you trying to convince? sounds like you're trying very hard to make yourself believe... I mean it's a bit obvious you're getting so upset over a thread in a guild you're not even on a GAME.

[Estolcles]

We miss Trannies.

Well then, let me help you:

http://www.tranchan.net/

And our queen... Shadowtrap...

http://www.archdemons.com/twilight/Nick%20Items/NSFW/Shadowtrap4p99.JPG

... I'd like to thank Fippy Darkpaw for showing up and taking care of the censoring.

[Koota]

Koota said the same thing you all said you hate cheaters blah blah. He just was stupid about it and got caught because he is a fucking moron

He mad.

He also mad about my skills of being a better enchanter, too.


*popcorn*

[Estolcles]

Koota> Didn't you used to be in Europa? Or am I just confusing my home guild with the RNF boards?

(Yes, it can be done, with enough drugs, lack of sleep, and drugs.) :P

[Koota]

Koota> Didn't you used to be in Europa? Or am I just confusing my home guild with the RNF boards?

(Yes, it can be done, with enough drugs, lack of sleep, and drugs.) :P


Yes, I was in Europa and in Remedy.

[Estolcles]

Yes, I was in Europa and in Remedy.

Ok, I thought so. When I saw the complaining at the beginning, I was thinking "Koota? Cheating? Shyeah right.... and monkeys might grow wings, find AK-47s, and fly out of my butt."

[Zithax]

So DA's public response is that they had no idea this was going on.

That's pretty bold, considering the entire server has known exactly what's been going on for several weeks now.

I guess zerglings believe what they want to believe, provided there's a chance for (undeserved) loot.

Personally, I think the entire guild should be disbanded, and all leadership IP banned. Choosing to believe DA's excuse of ignorance is practically criminal negligence.

Let's go ahead and throw trans in there too then, lolz.

[Hobby]

If you know of people breaking the rules, dont be an idiot about it. We cant do anything about duel-boxers or people using cheats unless you, the players, report it.


Stop cutting yourself off at the knee's and think you are some big hotshot...you are literally accomplishing nothing by not reporting these behaviors. This goes to everyone, as well..We have a system, and when people try to act outside the system and keep these things to themselves, it makes it 10x harder for us to act..

The people who take the time to spectate these players acting suspiciously, and report them (without trying to blackmail another group of people), have my personal thanks. But until one of us takes the time to watch for ourselves and to run our own series of tests, then nothing is going to happen. We cant run these tests without names....and names are exactly what you have been withholding for god knows how long, and if you ever expect someone with actual authority to do something, then i highly suggest you go and let the staff know who these people are.

[Estolcles]

.... quick note... I see the image is broken now in my post with Shadowtrap and Fippy Darkpaw in it.

I'd just like to point out that that's actually a dude (well... male-to-female transitioning).

So.... now we can't post topless dudes on here now? I could understand the time I posted naked Mickie James, and the pic getting dropped, but this is a bit over the top. :P

[Lazortag]

.... quick note... I see the image is broken now in my post with Shadowtrap and Fippy Darkpaw in it.

I'd just like to point out that that's actually a dude (well... male-to-female transitioning).

So.... now we can't post topless dudes on here now? I could understand the time I posted naked Mickie James, and the pic getting dropped, but this is a bit over the top. :P

It counts as pornographic because Raren might masturbate to it.

[Estolcles]

It counts as pornographic because Raren might masturbate to it.

Well, if Raren's gonna masturbate to THAT, good lord, I fear what he'd do to the original. >_>;

[Estolcles]

Ahhh. It's back now. Yay for me.

I guess someone Googled Shadowtrap, and saw the truth. :P

I woulda gona with Iodine, but it woulda turned too many players homosexual. :P

[Bagzan]

If you know of people breaking the rules, dont be an idiot about it. We cant do anything about duel-boxers or people using cheats unless you, the players, report it.


Stop cutting yourself off at the knee's and think you are some big hotshot...you are literally accomplishing nothing by not reporting these behaviors. This goes to everyone, as well..We have a system, and when people try to act outside the system and keep these things to themselves, it makes it 10x harder for us to act..

The people who take the time to spectate these players acting suspiciously, and report them (without trying to blackmail another group of people), have my personal thanks. But until one of us takes the time to watch for ourselves and to run our own series of tests, then nothing is going to happen. We cant run these tests without names....and names are exactly what you have been withholding for god knows how long, and if you ever expect someone with actual authority to do something, then i highly suggest you go and let the staff know who these people are.

Snitches get stiches

[Hobby]

Snitches help keep the server clean....although we dont soley rely on your petitions, it definately helps, and anything that helps is a good thing...


unless your a little gnome trying to help an ogre find food......

=/

[Rareen]

He mad.

He also mad about my skills of being a better enchanter, too.


*popcorn*

Your a good tracker too

[Hasbinbad]

Snitches get stiches
lulz

[Abacab niggah]

Koota is a pretty cool enchanter, uses showEQ and isn't afraid of anything

[Estolcles]

Koota is a pretty cool enchanter, uses showEQ and isn't afraid of anything

unless Koota started using ShowEQ really recently (like, over the last couple months), I'm pretty sure this is baseless.

He was with Europa for as long as I was with them. (Well, I still am. He moved on to our old sister raiding guild Remedy, who then merged into Darkwind.) And as an officer of the guild for a good portion of this year, I can only speak from my experienced with him. And my experiences were pretty much all good with him.

I honestly think the accusations are baseless. BUT... this is RNF. This comment will be met with homo-faggotry comments. :P

[Scrooge]

This isnt live. This is a Emulator server with a bunch of "i wanna get all the lewts first". So dont start that shit i remember when i was in DA we tryed to work things out with IB sorry didnt work, You know what they said it ruins the compeitive play in the game which is somewhat true. But throwing 40 ppl at a mob to kill it in 30 seconds doesnt take much skill at all.

This is exactly why the raiding scene here is nothing but one big farm. Guilds don't raid because they enjoy the challenge, they raid for easy loot.

[vinx]

Abacab skillz are teh pwn!

[Salty]

am not a Dark Ascension officer, though this post was OKed by leadership

Your leadership hax.

Under big Salty's rule, your guild didn't get banned from raiding. Only mobs depopped by GMs, clerics not healing, and chanters not leet enough.

I'd say Fish Bait > *

[Salty]

Your leadership hax.

Under big Salty's rule, your guild didn't get banned from raiding. Only mobs depopped by GMs, and repopped for other guilds.

I'd say Fish Bait > *

[Abacab niggah]

I'm pretty sure this is baseless.

I honestly think the accusations are baseless.

Except he was caught and raped by the admins for using showEQ

[Abacab niggah]

Your leadership hax.

Under big Salty's rule, your guild didn't get banned from raiding. Only mobs depopped by GMs, clerics not healing, and chanters not leet enough.

I'd say Fish Bait > *

You know someone is from the box when they use the title "big"

Big abacab here, tell me about TDT y'all

[vinx]

Except he was caught and raped by the admins for using showEQ

seriously? i thought that was a non intentional troll :mad:

[Estolcles]

Except he was caught and raped by the admins for using showEQ

Is there a way us lay players, like myself, can see a list of who's banned from the server then? Because he hasn't said anything about being banned (and if he hasn't, it's obvious why), and the only ones who've said he's banned are players who are already banned.... so..... wha? 0_o;

[Salty]

You know someone is from the box when they use the title "big"

Big abacab here, tell me about TDT y'all

Yo big aba, getting my crew in shape for kunarx, big pvp style.



http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/157725d1291002854-new-p1999-non-mippo-gayness-eq.png

[Bagzan]

lulz

Stitches*

Alas caring about a spelling mistake is down there on the list of worthwhile things to comment on :(

[Salty]

/zone warrens bro, DA style.

[Abacab niggah]

Is there a way us lay players, like myself, can see a list of who's banned from the server then? Because he hasn't said anything about being banned (and if he hasn't, it's obvious why), and the only ones who've said he's banned are players who are already banned.... so..... wha? 0_o;

You act like cause we're banned we don't know shit.

The people that are banned are the most caustic, drama driven individuals on the server and within moments of shit going down we're all up in this forum spewing hate for hates sake.

[Abacab niggah]

Yo big aba, getting my crew in shape for kunarx, big pvp style.



http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/157725d1291002854-new-p1999-non-mippo-gayness-eq.png

Oh man, you'll be petting down chardok like it's nothing!

What server is that though? Analog from <Savage Wolves> and I have a box called "sandbox" ballin' up the classic PVP but we still need a host and he's slackin'

[Salty]

Oh man, you'll be petting down chardok like it's nothing!

What server is that though? Analog from <Savage Wolves> and I have a box called "sandbox" ballin' up the classic PVP but we still need a host and he's slackin'

Hey pal, we got the entire player database from VZTZ, you should plop in on thar so big Salty can do his thang.

Nah mean

[Salty]

From right before Voidd the Slayer of VzTz took over.

[Abacab niggah]

Hey pal, we got the entire player database from VZTZ, you should plop in on thar so big Salty can do his thang.

Nah mean

What server?

[Abacab niggah]

From right before Voidd the Slayer of VzTz took over.

So you're running Daxum's "Fuck you Keegan" version?

[Salty]

Nah bro, voidd is ruining it at the moment.

[Salty]

no peeveepee for us

[Abacab niggah]

no peeveepee for us

http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/3921860/Mayne-Im-tearin-up-da-box-With-the-dream-team.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Saltystreetifighterplayer

[Salty]

Clearing the air, would be better if PVP was involved.

AMIRITE

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/157727d1291004952-new-p1999-non-mippo-gayness-lol.png

[Abacab niggah]

Clearing the air, would be better if PVP was involved.

AMIRITE

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/157727d1291004952-new-p1999-non-mippo-gayness-lol.png

SS is old news pvp, big abacab here swings on people twice his level and still coins them in RV as a KoS ogre

http://i55.tinypic.com/155gf1z.jpg

[Contact]

also, might I mention that we care about the NPCs more than we care about players. you are nothing but a little bunch of ants to us. you play in our playground and if you break our rules, you get the hurt put down on you.

i suggest you all follow the rules and accept decisions or gtfo.

Ok, that's the best EULA ever.

[Abacab niggah]

Ok, that's the best EULA ever.

also, might I mention that we care about the NPCs more than we care about players. you are nothing but a little bunch of ants to us. you play in our playground and if you break our rules, you get the hurt put down on you.

i suggest you all follow the rules and accept decisions or gtfo.

It's actually one of the worst, it's the same argument 16 year old scene girls make when they get criticized over something mundane. It's like saying "Haters make me famous!" or some other passive-aggressive angsty bullshit.

I don't really find absolutist statements appealing, the whole "my way or the highway" approach has always been a good way to get your teeth knocked out IRL, I don't see why it would be any more acceptable in this spectrum, considering the population is what makes this server.

They call us "ants" but we are giants albeit sleeping ones. With enough harassment, enough personal attacks etc. a group of several trolls can totally ruin this project permanently. Just thought I'd put some truth into perspective.

[OngorDrakan]

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww250/jh2up/219c2gi.gif

HAH!:D

[warrioman]

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/ad9/ad9996e798c074444ebbc8825c567bd4.jpg

[bluejam]

This is exactly why the raiding scene here is nothing but one big farm. Guilds don't raid because they enjoy the challenge, they raid for easy loot.
This. Why the f... are people playing like this on here when they can just join the Void server and #finditem, #summonitem stuff? Do they actually feel some kind of accomplishment right now? If so, I genuinely pity them. :confused:

[azeth]

This. Why the f... are people playing like this on here when they can just join the Void server and #finditem, #summonitem stuff? Do they actually feel some kind of accomplishment right now? If so, I genuinely pity them. :confused:

It appears based on your first post on the forums that you never understood why people played the game this way.


I never was a hardcore raider - maybe because I am from Europe, but was a member of an US based guild since the first day which meant raids usually at night for me -, nor did I ever play excessivley.

[Omnimorph]

Alas, poor Koota! i knew him well.

[bluejam]

It appears based on your first post on the forums that you never understood why people played the game this way.
I suppose so. You "enjoy" wasting hours over hours of your life to increase a few stats on your character without any real effort besides the time invested to track/run/kill?
Or did you see "Guilds don't raid because they enjoy the challenge, they raid for easy loot."?
Because if that is what it's all about... I can't see the fun in that - throwing your time at this for nothing, basicly.

[bluejam]

no edit button..

It should say: "Or did you not see [...]"

[Ponden]

And I think throwing a stupid fucking ball around on a grassy field is a waste of my time too. Same goes to kicking a ball, shooting a ball into a basket, and numerous other things. If you don't want to waste time with us getting the pixels we want, please leave.

[M.Bison]

I suppose so. You "enjoy" wasting hours over hours of your life to increase a few stats on your character without any real effort besides the time invested to track/run/kill?
Or did you see "Guilds don't raid because they enjoy the challenge, they raid for easy loot."?
Because if that is what it's all about... I can't see the fun in that - throwing your time at this for nothing, basicly.

If you are worried about wasting time i suggest you leave the p99 forum and go carpe diem somewhere more "meaningful?"

[Aadill]

I like having high end equipment and still being forced to take a DT. That's what is fun to me.

[Teensy Weensy]

I sent a tell once to DA if they could help me Kill sir Lucan because he was up.
They were almost finished raiding and were glad to offer the help.
I had Sir lucan single pulled, and had him running around while I waited for DA's arrival.
Then came the guild Sapentia (and without waiting for lucan to go back to the militia house like he should of)
They just took the aggro (and they didn't even say anything to me, even though they saw me and three others trying to keep lucan busy until DA arrived),
and then DA arrived just after they killed him.

It has been 3 months, and I have never again had the chance to get my soulfire.

Just wanted to thank DA again for trying, and here I shake my fist in anger, as I lost one of my only chances to have a cool fiery sword.

I wish I had known that before I joined them. Most are good folk, but you can be happy knowing the guildleadership took a dump on the rest of the guild. I joined them and a few weeks later they announce that they will no longer be trying to do any raid progression. Soon after all the officers left and the leader hasn't been seen in weeks. I was pretty suprised to read this giving that the Sap members I knew are all stand up guys pretty much and seem like good people. Although I did get treated pretty poorly when I commented that I did not see how stopping raid prgression and trying to get new recruits was counterproductive. One of the officers just got mad at my comments so I guess there were a few bad apples. I would say try not to hold it against them as most Sap members were pretty cool. Either way, the guild has pretty much died. All the officers left and just left all the regular members hanging out in the wind.

[baub]

I like having high end equipment and still being forced to take a DT. That's what is fun to me.

This is a key part of what keeps me going!

A typical day at the office (except this week lol)

Keeper of Souls shouts, AADILL!
You begin casting Togor's Insects
Keeper of Souls resisted Togor's Insects
You have been slain by Keeper of Souls!
Loading, please wait..
You tell Aadill, "So whatcha wearin?!"

[Aadill]

You tell Aadill, "So whatcha wearin?!"

Bound in the entrance to Halas, riding the raft across the small pool leading to the great city of burly men I lay, naked, waiting for you.

Unf my buff bar plz.

[Aadill]

Forgot to add: We cleared the air to let the love fly free~

[baub]

Bound in the entrance to Halas, riding the raft across the small pool leading to the great city of burly men I lay, naked, waiting for you.

Unf my buff bar plz.

I shall be there soon, my love. It is quite cold in this area of norrath, thankfully I produce enough body heat to keep us both warm.

..this potion of the frost takes way too long! LONGEST 30 SECONDS OF MY LIFE

[Aadill]

The 30 seconds after that will be the best, though~

[baub]

I can't hate you for finishing so fast...as long as we can spoon the night away

[M.Bison]

I have a feeling you guys will have entirely too much time on your hands this week.

[Aadill]

My hands are full, thank you.

[azeth]

My hands are full, thank you.

of banana baub

[azeth]

of banana baub

baub's banana*

[Aadill]

it works either way, really.

[Shannacore]

this thread just got super gay

[baub]

http://www.darkascensionguild.com/forums/download/file.php?id=45
©Hema

[Aadill]

What a fruit!

[baub]

this thread just got super gay

I sense jealousy

[Scrooge]

this thread is super gay

fixt

[Spewys]

Totally gay for sure...However its slightly amusing.

[Xadion]

I come here to post about nonsence

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Enjoy!

Baub enjoy sloppy 2nds Aadill was all over my hizzouse for thanksgiving.

[Aadill]

When someone says, "Pass the gravy," I oblige.

[Maurk]

I wish I had known that before I joined them. Most are good folk, but you can be happy knowing the guildleadership took a dump on the rest of the guild. I joined them and a few weeks later they announce that they will no longer be trying to do any raid progression. Soon after all the officers left and the leader hasn't been seen in weeks. I was pretty suprised to read this giving that the Sap members I knew are all stand up guys pretty much and seem like good people. Although I did get treated pretty poorly when I commented that I did not see how stopping raid prgression and trying to get new recruits was counterproductive. One of the officers just got mad at my comments so I guess there were a few bad apples. I would say try not to hold it against them as most Sap members were pretty cool. Either way, the guild has pretty much died. All the officers left and just left all the regular members hanging out in the wind.

Oh don't get me wrong, Sapentia has some really chill people - this is something happened way long ago, and in no way do I hold a grudge.

Now earlier in this thread I mentioned how DA tried to help me out on my soulfire many months ago.

Well yesterday,
They zerg rushed the shit outta sir Lucan within a moments notice.
A personal thanks to: Zereh, Tummy, and that drunken monk who I wish I could remember his name (isidro maybe?)

Thanks guys!! I've been after this for a lonnng time.
Much respect for DA

[bluejam]

And I think throwing a stupid fucking ball around on a grassy field is a waste of my time too. Same goes to kicking a ball, shooting a ball into a basket, and numerous other things. If you don't want to waste time with us getting the pixels we want, please leave.
If you are worried about wasting time i suggest you leave the p99 forum and go carpe diem somewhere more "meaningful?"

Haha, wow....
I'll leave it at that. I won't interfere again.

[Ledzepp02]

Can't believe Pariad took off in the middle of the night. How rude =( not even a good bye kiss or cab fair, WTF PARIAD YOU BITCH! =(=(

[Ledzepp02]

oops
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr107/Ledzepp_wow/EQ000029.jpg

[Loke]

Sneaking away? Looks to me like he's doing something else. That's a lot of wood there in his right hand.

[Rahnza]

Dunno if this was mentioned, but I was strongly opposed against a certain IB app who explicitly talked about locations of mobs in vent and openly stated that he used showeq. I was over ruled and he was tagged IB.

Moral of the story: no one's innocent.

[spok]

<3 Aadill & Ledzepp sig

[Ledzepp02]

pariad = BAM BAM

[Xzerion]

@Rahnza: Who are you? Who are you referring to? Who heard this person say these things? I will gladly go review that person's applicant thread to look for your comments in stating this

[Rahnza]

This is tiki bro.

[yaaaflow]

@Rahnza: Who are you? Who are you referring to? Who heard this person say these things? I will gladly go review that person's applicant thread to look for your comments in stating this

He's obviously talking about virtuosos isn't he?

[Xadion]

This is tiki bro.

Tiki is the win yo! long time! whhaatttuppp

[Virtuosos]

old news, buddy...i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's. hell, i even went to uthgaard and flat out told him months ago because it felt wrong for me to contiune using it.

no one's perfect here, and believe me i never claimed i was...people always find a way to justify breaking the rules, whether that is training the cheaters in ec tunnels or because "the varience isnt classic so we'll just use programs to track for us"...unfortunately i fell prey to the lure of seq due to the amout of usage from the former guild of mine, used for a small period of time, and decided it wasnt for me and left both seq and the guild behind.


ive done nothing that both management and ib dont know about already...i dont try to hide who i am or what ive done unlike 90% of the other people here :p

[korrowan]

old news, buddy...i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's. hell, i even went to uthgaard and flat out told him months ago because it felt wrong for me to contiune using it.

no one's perfect here, and believe me i never claimed i was...people always find a way to justify breaking the rules, whether that is training the cheaters in ec tunnels or because "the varience isnt classic so we'll just use programs to track for us"...unfortunately i fell prey to the lure of seq due to the amout of usage from the former guild of mine, used for a small period of time, and decided it wasnt for me and left both seq and the guild behind.


ive done nothing that both management and ib dont know about already...i dont try to hide who i am or what ive done unlike 90% of the other people here :p

You're a bad person. GTFO.

[Nivar Quartz]

old news, buddy...i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's. hell, i even went to uthgaard and flat out told him months ago because it felt wrong for me to contiune using it.

no one's perfect here, and believe me i never claimed i was...people always find a way to justify breaking the rules, whether that is training the cheaters in ec tunnels or because "the varience isnt classic so we'll just use programs to track for us"...unfortunately i fell prey to the lure of seq due to the amout of usage from the former guild of mine, used for a small period of time, and decided it wasnt for me and left both seq and the guild behind.


ive done nothing that both management and ib dont know about already...i dont try to hide who i am or what ive done unlike 90% of the other people here :p


Nice seeing ya alone in sky the other day!

[Virtuosos]

i was stuck =( either say screw my 1-6 keys or sit up there for 3 hours,missing a raid, and hope a cleric comes by or a wizard that wants to make 500plat :/

[Hobby]

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thats for all ya'll :o

[Rais]

I found it ironic how the IB/Trans thing ended, and then Virt ended up joining. I love you Virt in a non-gay way, but all of that was nothing but filled with hypocrisy. So Xzerion's entire stance of no cheaters in IB, flies out the window. I've come to the conclusion every guild has their " inside infoz".

It ranks up there when we were in Sky, and DA stole a Island 1 mob from us and Lostprofits says in team-speak "I need to fraps this so we can get them in trouble, but I have to restart when I close out seq". Was nothing but a bang my head against the wall moment for me, and it finally clicked that more than just Virt was using SEQ in the guild.

I've never had to use SEQ, and never want to be apart of a guild that does. It just takes something out of the game for me. I sure in the hell had my exploits back in the day on live, or I should say " take advantage of developer fuck ups".

[Badmartigan]

Everyone else is doing it is the defense you're going to go with?

I don't mean to sound like your mother, but if everyone else jumped off a bridge...

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7844/jumpingbridge.jpg

...maybe.

Seriously, Props to Jayko for manning up and discussing this. He didn't make excuses and I sincerely believe he didn't know and doesn't support cheating. I don't think the same ban be said for everyone in DA though...

I love how in your screenshot it says your not going to flame anyone to durison... and now all you do is flame DA on the boards..

You moved on.. stay moved on ?

[Evorix]

Darn those innocent IB people...

Please do attempt to video 2-boxers and cheaters in ib, I'll tell you right now you may end up disappointed you cant find any =(.

i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's. hell, i even went to uthgaard and flat out told him months ago because it felt wrong for me to contiune using it.

[Virtuosos]

I found it ironic how the IB/Trans thing ended, and then Virt ended up joining. I love you Virt in a non-gay way, but all of that was nothing but filled with hypocrisy. So Xzerion's entire stance of no cheaters in IB, flies out the window. I've come to the conclusion every guild has their " inside infoz".

It ranks up there when we were in Sky, and DA stole a Island 1 mob from us and Lostprofits says in team-speak "I need to fraps this so we can get them in trouble, but I have to restart when I close out seq". Was nothing but a bang my head against the wall moment for me, and it finally clicked that more than just Virt was using SEQ in the guild.

I've never had to use SEQ, and never want to be apart of a guild that does. It just takes something out of the game for me. I sure in the hell had my exploits back in the day on live, or I should say " take advantage of developer fuck ups".

not sure who you are, but there were more than that one occasion than that sky raid where it was publicly stated about the programs within guild chat / TS...a LOT more. i dont really understand how i was the first one you noticed when i didnt start using it until 90% of the others were, either :/

hell....as soon as i left and people saw me unguilded for a few days, i was absolutely flooded with tells from random people asking me all this information about trans and why they were cheating and all SORTS of things that i never expected people to really know...

its almost creapy at how much people know about each other in this server lol, instead of being immersed into the world of norath, 500 people rely on the other 300 people to cause drama and entertain us...rather than this being a game, its more of a horribly good soap opera

[Virtuosos]

oh and for the record...

i have never been tagged in ib when using any cheats, all of this was quite a while ago...as i said, old news

[Badmartigan]

And I think throwing a stupid fucking ball around on a grassy field is a waste of my time too. Same goes to kicking a ball, shooting a ball into a basket, and numerous other things. If you don't want to waste time with us getting the pixels we want, please leave.

This is full of win.... totally agree.

[Supreme Retard]

What a surprise, IB & Transcendence members openly using SEQ. Were they ever punished/banned? No. Why is Virtuosos still playing on here after admitting he used SEQ for months on P99? Perhaps the banhammer needs to fall again and some other guilds need to be "suspended from raiding" too. Clearly despite you being quick to point fingers at people in DA your shit stinks just as bad, and probably worse.

[Nakara]

This is full of win.... totally agree.

ya know except for the fact that your are doing those activities face to face with other people and your actions have real life effects and consequences

[Japan]

whoa "real" has an objective definition now? nice work bro you handwaved half of all philosophy right away

[Shannacore]

Why is Virtuosos still playing on here after admitting he used SEQ for months on P99?

Curious as well.

WTB Koota back then.

[Rareen]

Curious as well.

WTB Koota back then.

Maybe if you fuck Rogean you could get him back