So, let's clear the air, a message from your friendly Dark Ascension Shaman

[Supreme Retard]

Please do attempt to video 2-boxers and cheaters in ib, I'll tell you right now you may end up disappointed you cant find any =(.

i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's. hell, i even went to uthgaard and flat out told him months ago

Developer (Xzerion) running guild with guildmembers who use SEQ, big mouthed officers who continually stick their foot (and Xzerion's sweaty shaven balls) in their mouths and NO bans/suspensions for IB. Is anyone surprised? Not really.

[Koota]

Please do attempt to video 2-boxers and cheaters in ib

I know for a fact of one person who plays two characters at the same time. But I am not going to expose this person, as I consider him a friend. So I guess that doesn't go too far. Let's just say they are regularly in Fear tracking while magically playing another character somewhere else.

[Nakara]

whoa "real" has an objective definition now? nice work bro you handwaved half of all philosophy right away

sorry to ruin your perspective that nothing you do in this game anyone anywhere gives a shit about

[Rareen]

old news, buddy...i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's. hell, i even went to uthgaard and flat out told him months ago because it felt wrong for me to contiune using it.

no one's perfect here, and believe me i never claimed i was...people always find a way to justify breaking the rules, whether that is training the cheaters in ec tunnels or because "the varience isnt classic so we'll just use programs to track for us"...unfortunately i fell prey to the lure of seq due to the amout of usage from the former guild of mine, used for a small period of time, and decided it wasnt for me and left both seq and the guild behind.


ive done nothing that both management and ib dont know about already...i dont try to hide who i am or what ive done unlike 90% of the other people here :p

I dont cheat anymore either but people still call me a cheater

[Kassel]

So i guess if you have a developer in your guild you can admit to using showeq in a thread about banning people for using showeq and suffer no consequence.

Nice to know.


sorry to ruin your perspective that nothing you do in this game anyone anywhere gives a shit about

13 page drama post about one dude says otherwise lol

[Pheer]

lol at all the DA members desperately trying to shift the focus away from them

[Rareen]

I know for a fact of one person who plays two characters at the same time. But I am not going to expose this person, as I consider him a friend. So I guess that doesn't go too far. Let's just say they are regularly in Fear tracking while magically playing another character somewhere else.

Your tagged as a cheater now you stupid fuck you think anyone will belive you?

[Nakara]

it's pretty common knowledge that a large number of people 2 box on here. is it hard for you to believe some of them are in the high end guilds?

[Koota]

Your tagged as a cheater now you stupid fuck you think anyone will belive you?

For the love of christ, can you please at least attempt to convey a point of some kind without coming off like a total third grader? The proper way to say it is "YOU'RE TAGGED", not "YOUR TAGGED". Fucking moron.

[Trimm]

oh and for the record...

i have never been tagged in ib when using any cheats, all of this was quite a while ago...as i said, old news

- Any type of program or script that gives you an unfair advantage (eg. MacroQuest, ShowEQ or packet modification) will result in an instant ban with no lenience. Cheating will be ruled with an iron first regardless of who you are.

So as long as its in the past, and you promise not to do it again, open cheating is just fine on this server? C'mon guys.

[Skope]

So i guess if you have a developer in your guild you can admit to using showeq in a thread about banning people for using showeq and suffer no consequence.

Nice to know.




13 page drama post about one dude says otherwise lol

There was an incident where more than 1 guild had people who knew spawn timers beforehand and officers/raid leaders of those guilds parked their guilds at these spawn points literally minutes before they popped and though certain people were banned the guilds that were using the info weren't punished at all. Are you REALLY surprised that Virtuosos wasn't banned? Frustrating is a word that isn't strong enough to explain that...

[Shannacore]

Maybe if you fuck Rogean you could get him back

Oh snap, good one.

[Slathar]

This server is basically a small group of people who never lived out their Everquest Elite Raiding Experience Paradise because they have a developer as a guild leader.

This Virt person used SEQ, admitted (admits) to using it in the past and was not punished in any way. That seems reasonable.

Project1999fortheselectfewwhohaveadeveloperasaguil der

[quido]

I thought I'd take this opportunity to call Zithax a cunt.

Zithax, you're a cunt.

[Hurley]

GMs/Guides should not be allowed to be players.

[vinx]

GMs/Guides should not be allowed to be players.

you do realize what server your on?
this isnt live everquest people, things here will never be run like a business.

[Slathar]

GMs/Guides should not be allowed to be players.

Too late.

[Hurley]

Too late.

Yeah but I have been saying it since October of last year.

[Hurley]

things here will never be run like a business.

Why not?

[vinx]

Why not?

If you have played any other emu server besides this one you would know.
to be in the top guild you need to be in the one the devs/GMs are in.

[Slathar]

If you have played any other emu server besides this one you would know.
to be in the top guild you need to be in the one the devs/GMs are in.

Correct.

[to0p]

I FOUND A PICTURE OF HIM RIGHT AFTER BAN!

http://peacepipeguild.com/img/phatlewtch.jpg

[Ihealyou]

I killed a guy a year ago, but I felt bad about it and told the police that I killed him. As long as I promise not to do it again they said it would be ok. I'm just a better person than the 90% of you who kill people and don't tell anyone. I admit that what I did was wrong, and believe me, I feel bad about it.

[Rareen]

I told Rogean i duped some items and i told him i was sorry and i wouldnt do it again and guess what? I got banned :(

[Slathar]

I told Rogean i duped some items and i told him i was sorry and i wouldnt do it again and guess what? I got banned :(

Obviously, you should have had a developer as a guild leader and this problem wouldn't have happened. Idiot.

[Loke]

I love how in your screenshot it says your not going to flame anyone to durison... and now all you do is flame DA on the boards..

You moved on.. stay moved on ?

Haha first of all, that was like 3-4 months ago that SS was taken - a lot has changed since then. I left very quietly and respectfully - then Durison tried to fuck me over and sabotage my app to another guild. I lost any bit of respect I had left for the guy at that point and now have absolutely no problem flaming them. Also, that particular comment was referring to my goodbye post on the DA Boards... so all that previous stuff is moot anyway.

[Rareen]

Obviously, you should have had a developer as a guild leader and this problem wouldn't have happened. Idiot.

Yeah i know if i was still in IB when i duped those items and hooked Xzerion up i woulda been good

[Cyrius]

Yeah i know if i was still in IB when i duped those items and hooked Xzerion up i woulda been good

You are quite wrong. You would have been banned even quicker.

[Rareen]

You are quite wrong. You would have been banned even quicker.

Thats what you think

[Slathar]

You are quite wrong. You would have been banned even quicker.

Quick! Damage control, damage control! Our virtual world is in danger of collapsing! Oh my god! Sunlight?!?! HiSSSSSSSS

[Scrooge]

For the love of christ, can you please at least attempt to convey a point of some kind without coming off like a total third grader? The proper way to say it is "YOU'RE TAGGED", not "YOUR TAGGED". Fucking moron.

YOU'RE avatar rocks!

[Jeah]

YOU'RE avatar rocks!

Actually it would be "your" in that case. Otherwise you are saying "you are avatar rocks". :) I can see this thread is still making some awesome progress otherwise though. Please keep it up guys, this is exactly what the server needs.

[quellren]

Actually it would be "your" in that case....

Subtle sarcasm is subtle.

[sobchak123]

I wonder who changed that TT's pathing in Vox's lair

Never saw that one in the patch notes. Definitely not "classic" to change it.

[Slathar]

I wonder who changed that TT's pathing in Vox's lair

Never saw that one in the patch notes. Definitely not "classic" to change it.

Well, see that is where DA likes to gather / track from for Vox kills. IB knows this (GM/Developer sponsored guild who can do anything without consequences) so it was changed.

Next.

[Rareen]

I wonder who changed that TT's pathing in Vox's lair

Never saw that one in the patch notes. Definitely not "classic" to change it.

You didnt know Xzerion could change shit to make it easier for his guild to compete?

[Pheer]

tinfoil hats detected

[Trimm]

Content

* Nilbog: an ancient croc spawn fixed. simultaneously killing the placeholders should no longer bug out the respawn.
* Nilbog: Mammoth tusks will be more common that mammoth rib bones.
* Nilbog: orc oracles in crushbone will no longer drop deathfist belts. Fixed oracle lootables.
* Nilbog: orc legionnaires will now drop raw-hide armor, instead of small raw-hide.
* Nilbog: orc oracles in lesser faydark will now be warriors, despite their name.
* Nilbog: Brother Hayle will now respond to quest triggers, regardless of how you capitalize them.
* Nilbog: Guards of North Ro will now protect you from coyotes.
* Nilbog: the clockwork fletcher of Steamfont Mountains will now sell fletching materials.
* Nilbog: 'a prisoner' in Oggok will now be primary faction FrogloksofGuk
* Nilbog: an elf skeleton will now have a greater chance of dropping mallet components.
* Nilbog: Enic Ruklin's koalindl fish quest will now require amiable faction. Turning in a koalindl fish will yield a significantly higher faction reward than before.
* Nilbog: Camlend Serbold will require warmly faction for the Aegis of Life. He will now also bow to you, on a hail, if your faction is warmly or above.
* Nilbog: Tyrana Slil loottable fixed.
* Nilbog: Keeshla Levlora will now summon a pet.
* Nilbog: Derena Leflor pathing added. She will rest by the fountain and kneel before Mandaril.
* Nilbog: Day/Night added for Highpass. Gornolin and Marlin Shirtov will spawn depending on the time of day.
* Nilbog: Day/Night added for Tox. Veisha Fathomwalker and Phaeril Nightshire will spawn depending on the time of day. Created their paths.
* Nilbog: Implemented 'Experienced Courier' quest from Davorre Bloodthorn.
* Nilbog: Jerith will no longer spawn in Paineel.
* Nilbog: Tohsan Hallard will now properly accept orc pawn picks.
* Uthgaard: Cleaned up McNeal Jocub's script
* Uthgaard: Bumle Reminjar won't be so picky about how you proclaim your willingness to destroy Krag Chicks
* Xzerion: Added pathing to an icy terror located near Vox.

[Hasbinbad]

tinfoil hats detected
tinfoil cats detected

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lt5ab7.jpg

[Slathar]

* Xzerion: Added pathing to an icy terror located near Vox.

Glad to see this giant contribution to the server. I'm sure this was done without any other thoughts but bettering the playing experience for everyone the server.

Also, this isn't classic.

[Rareen]

tinfoil cats detected

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lt5ab7.jpg

I remember when you posted all the numbers of IB that was funny

Im curious when Wonton comes back how he is going to think of you back in the guild.

[Slathar]

I love how the only defense is to non-sensical replies.

Fact: IB gets favored status because their guild is run by a developer.
Fact: Said developer changed something that will directly affect a rival guild.
Fact: This server is doomed.
Fact: brew mad r u? fag0r

[spok]

So the cat is outta the bag and it has become blatantly obvious to everyone on the server that IB has favoritism.

If you are in IB you cannot be banned even if it is a violation that other guilds suffer entirely for.

If you are in IB you can change game content to favor your methods of raiding versus playing classic content the way it was set up.

If you are in IB and you train intentionally, it will be overlooked.

If your raid fails and you wipe, CS rez is OTW!

Go ahead and 2box, run SEQ and MQ2 and train everyone. QQ on the boards when accused and cry out "PROVE IT" all you would like.

We know. We aren't stupid.

Ok back to your QQ'ing.

At least DA & koota were noble enough to recognize where things went wrong and posted it publicly.

[Loke]

At least DA & koota were noble enough to recognize where things went wrong and posted it publicly.

We got caught blatantly cheating, BUT WE'RE SUPER NOBLE AND STUFF!

really?

[Rareen]

yeah Spok im sorry but your a idiot Koota wasnt noble about shit he just got caught like a bitch and got banned

[Supreme Retard]

Keep slurping that sweet sweet Xzerion Jizz Loke! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[spok]

Rareen I misspoke - I shoulda said DA was noble about the scenario with Jayko's initial post that started this thread. No edit button.

[spok]

We got caught blatantly cheating, BUT WE'RE SUPER NOBLE AND STUFF!

really?

There was no "WE"

I have a feeling you did not develop cognitively.

[Gwence]

spok you hate ib so much, why did you app to us?

[Ponden]

So was it IB who got rez-pulling changed? No.
Did IB change PoSky mobs so we could farm them? No.
Have GM's told us not to use the "lev exploit" to backdoor Vox? Yes.
Have GM's suspended accounts of ours? Yes, multiple people have taken suspensions due to KS/trains from random instances on mains/alts. We definitely aren't immune to shit.

I've never been one to target DA and say "DA are the only hackers, exploiters, or douche bags on the server!" but the more I see DA players post on these forums, the more thankful I am to be in IB. Durison and your officers really hit the propaganda hard. Sucks that you had to part ways Spok, but I have no idea where any of your accusations come from.

Tinfoil hats are on, GM's have their hotkeys ready to GM rez IB, and Xzerion is currently #spawning nameds because he has the power to do that.

[Pheer]

lol DA is so mad right now, theyve cranked the propaganda machine into overdrive

[spok]

I initially liked everyone in IB. Tables turned when people left. I left when IB was on the outs. I tried out DA and liked DA. Most of my previous guild Eminence ended up DA.

I still like some ppl in IB and have nothing against them. For the most part though - I would appreciate if the guild as a whole was treated like every other player on the server.

[Pheer]

I initially liked everyone in IB. Tables turned when people left. I left when IB was on the outs. I tried out DA and liked DA. Most of my previous guild Eminence ended up DA.

I still like some ppl in IB and have nothing against them. For the most part though - I would appreciate if the guild as a whole was treated like every other player on the server.

So why dont you tell us about the crazy gm favoritism you must have witnessed while in IB

[Loke]

Let me preface this by stating I am not arguing any GM decisions. It's their server and how the hand out punishment is their business. I haven't always agreed with their decisions and have voiced my opinion on them, but ultimately I respect whatever they choose.

That being said, there may have been GM decisions regarding IB members that you don't agree with, but similarly there are ones that affected DA as well that everyone seems to forget in threads like this. I'm sure Raren could enlighten us on certain unbanned members of DA who were involved in his little dupe scandal. Or how about Darkith? Has everyone forgot about the DA tagged L20 rogue rolling around in an RBB, Vox Spear and Bone Razor? How about the Druid in DA who is currently in possession of a CT staff that was suppose to have been deleted by GMs? There are more instances, but I think I've proved my point...

What I'm getting at is that the GMs do the best they can. Nilbog isn't letting Xzerion just roll around making updates to screw DA, just as Rogean, Cyrius, Uthgaard and the other GMs aren't allowing IB members to run around doing whatever they please. They aren't perfect, but do a pretty damn good job in my opinion. You just only remember the instances where you feel DA got screwed, and forget the ones that benefited you guys.

[Supreme Retard]

spok you hate ib so much, why did you app to us?

You should probably stick to training instead of speaking, at least that's something you're good at!

[Whistle]

"Yeah i know if i was still in IB when i duped those items and hooked Xzerion up i woulda been good" -Raren
You are quite wrong. You would have been banned even quicker.

old news, buddy...i never hid the fact that i used seq from the guild or from the GM's.

What a surprise, IB & Transcendence members openly using SEQ. Were they ever punished/banned? No. Why is Virtuosos still playing on here after admitting he used SEQ for months on P99? Perhaps the banhammer needs to fall again and some other guilds need to be "suspended from raiding" too. Clearly despite you being quick to point fingers at people in DA your shit stinks just as bad, and probably worse.

Well take your fucking time banning Virtuosos. Perhaps Gwence should train away for another several months before you deliver another light slap on the wrist too.

A prominent DA member was blatantly guilty and got banned. Fuck him, he deserved it.

Does no guild other than DA have their leadership continuously banned for lengths of time for matters they were not personally involved in? Who else was suspended from raiding for the actions of one?

[Trax]

You're all paranoid, and delusional.

[spok]

I hadn't logged in for about 2 weeks due to actions of players in IB during a raid in PoFear. I log in the other day, come to find we are suspended as a whole from raiding. I /q instantly.

Read this post on the board and go "WTF?"

Come to find, Koota is not the first and will not be the last to be caught using h4x. DA may accept the punishment - I do not.

It's hard to set a precedence after one has already been established. This is exactly why. So and so did it but received a slap on the wrist, someone else does and an entire guild gets suspended from raiding?

My other post about things stating IB is immune to this and that is not entirely true and is an embellishment. I have seen IB players get away with training, I did see that Xzerion did change the pathing of a mob where DA sets up a raid, I did experience a raid where we wiped due to a monk from IB flopping mobs on us and gwence training adds on us then minutes later they wipe and get a CS rez while we are dealing with a wipe. Players in your guild have been caught cheating as you have mentioned and they did not receive the same punishment.

So tell me - would that change your views on how another guild is treated? Do I think players like Ponden would condone things of those nature? No. I think many in IB would be upset if they knew they were taking part in a guild that allows and maybe promotes such things. I was oblivious to koota's situation and I was pretty upset knowing that I was in his guild. I am positive all of the DA members are embarrassed and ashamed as well

[Skope]

Let me preface this by stating I am not arguing any GM decisions. It's their server and how the hand out punishment is their business. I haven't always agreed with their decisions and have voiced my opinion on them, but ultimately I respect whatever they choose.

That being said, there may have been GM decisions regarding IB members that you don't agree with, but similarly there are ones that affected DA as well that everyone seems to forget in threads like this. I'm sure Raren could enlighten us on certain unbanned members of DA who were involved in his little dupe scandal. Or how about Darkith? Has everyone forgot about the DA tagged L20 rogue rolling around in an RBB, Vox Spear and Bone Razor? How about the Druid in DA who is currently in possession of a CT staff that was suppose to have been deleted by GMs? There are more instances, but I think I've proved my point...

What I'm getting at is that the GMs do the best they can. Nilbog isn't letting Xzerion just roll around making updates to screw DA, just as Rogean, Cyrius, Uthgaard and the other GMs aren't allowing IB members to run around doing whatever they please. They aren't perfect, but do a pretty damn good job in my opinion. You just only remember the instances where you feel DA got screwed, and forget the ones that benefited you guys.

I'm glad someone said it, because this has been reverberating on various forums for a while now. There was a LOT of shady shit that happened before that was simply forgotten about under the assumption that people didn't give a crap. Well, we do, and every time something new pops up it's absolutely disheartening. I also find that it's quite amusing that it's Loke outing some of it, but that's neither here nor there (sort of like how Virtuosos apologizes for cheating yet didn't seem to care for months and months prior when other people used it and when he himself did).

I understand it's hard to be fair and balanced, but can we at least even the god damn playing field so that there's no incentive to SEQ at all on raids? Please please please dump the stupid fucking variance. If I have to deal with trains and continuous FRAPS then so be it, so long as i know that there isn't somebody who's getting an unfair advantage that's damn near impossible to detect. If there's not going to be a downloaded p99 program to detect the thing then something *has* to be done. This isn't the first time a guild has been caught using something like this or knowing timers beforehand, but it is the first time an entire guild has been punished for it. And the prior offense was FAR more malicious and yet the leadership wasn't banned nor reprimanded (at least to my knowledge). I love the GMs and the staff here, but that really left a horrendous taste in my mouth.

I'm not here to bitch moan and cry, I just want an even playing field.

[Whistle]

I did experience a raid where we wiped due to a monk from IB flopping mobs on us and gwence training adds on us then minutes later they wipe and get a CS rez while we are dealing with a wipe. Players in your guild have been caught cheating as you have mentioned and they did not receive the same punishment.

This was Dracoliche. Our best monk had a solo pull on Draco and is subsequently trained by Gwence with a shitload right as our tank engages. Then they petition and get bullshit CSR rezes as well as the mob they trained us to get. Lovely server we have here.

[spok]

I never experienced any preferential treatment while in IB. We were the only ones dominating PoSky at the time while other guilds were on the mainland raiding gods & dragons. I did not really see any competition while I was with the guild and our encounters with other guilds were very minimal.

That was my experience with IB. Nothing negative. I just left because IB lost some players to new guilds Dozekar & Blackwater forming from players leaving the guild and figured it would be a rebuilding process for a little while. I did not want to wait to raid gods so I joined DA where I had familiar faces and game buddies. Nothing wrong with that.

Being competitive against IB in raiding instances has been a pain and I chose to leave the server because of the instances I have posted about here. No point in getting super upset over a video game - so I should quit because I am letting it bother me. Games are meant to be fun - I stopped having fun.

[Slathar]

* Xzerion: Added pathing to an icy terror located near Vox.

Still waiting on the response to this. Log into EQ Live and go to Permafrost, run into that same room and you will this mob is stationary.

Lols.

[Loke]

I also find that it's quite amusing that it's Loke outing some of it, but that's neither here nor there (sort of like how Virtuosos apologizes for cheating yet didn't seem to care for months and months prior when other people used it and when he himself did).


Err, I don't see how the two compare. I like Virt, but don't know enough about his situation to really comment. As for myself, I distanced myself from DA and have always been extremely vocal and clear on my stance regarding cheating in all it's forms (be it 3rd party programs, training, KSing, Duping, etc). I guess I fail to see the humor.

Me and you may have disagreed in the past regarding raid rules and what not Skope - but I'm a bit surprised if you're insinuating that I'm in some way being hypocritical by bringing up these issues.

[Skope]

The comparison is that like Virt, the two of you knew of what was going on and who was up to what (even if it be after the fact) and still stayed tagged. Don't quite recall how long you remained in DA after those numerous events, but i know virt was in trans for months after knowing what was going on.

[Slathar]

Err, I don't see how the two compare. I like Virt, but don't know enough about his situation to really comment. As for myself, I distanced myself from DA and have always been extremely vocal and clear on my stance regarding cheating in all it's forms (be it 3rd party programs, training, KSing, Duping, etc). I guess I fail to see the humor.

Me and you may have disagreed in the past regarding raid rules and what not Skope - but I'm a bit surprised if you're insinuating that I'm in some way being hypocritical by bringing up these issues.

You're being hypocritical because you have a known cheater in your guild. Known cheater was never punished, whereas a known cheater in a rival guild was perma-banned.

Do you understand? Do you want me to explain it again?

[Slathar]

Lock it up, this thread is over. Victory for me.

[Whistle]

Example of IB Guildchat:

Gwence: I just trained fuckin DA @ vox LOL
Swarws: No you trained us as well you tool!
Xzerion: Not to worry, I'll petition for another round of CS rezes
Loke: I dont get it guys

[Slathar]

Example of IB Guildchat:

Gwence: I just trained fuckin DA @ vox LOL! I am unable to form coherent thoughts on 12-year old emulation Everquest boards!
Swarws: No you trained us as well you tool! I am incapable as a leader and will probably committ suicide in the next 3 years.
Xzerion: Not to worry, I'll petition for another round of CS rezes and change the pathing of mobs to fuck with rival guilds. I. am. so. alone.
Loke: I dont get it guys

fixed

[sobchak123]

Tinfoil hats are on, GM's have their hotkeys ready to GM rez IB, and Xzerion is currently #spawning nameds because he has the power to do that.

Nobody ever accused Xzerion of spawning named mobs. That's a strawman.

It's beyond refute though he purposely changed a mob's pathing as a developer to help his guild as a player. I'm actually surprised he put it in the patch notes. If anything, that's direct evidence of his corruption and admin duplicity in the matter. Changing that mob's pathing is not classic. Something that this server supposedly is for above and beyond all things.

That vision gets thrown out the window when you have guild leaders putting on their developer hats and changing shit for the benefit of their guild and not for the server integrity as a whole. But whatever, let's all pretend this isn't EMU and continue to throw rocks at glass houses.

[Supreme Retard]

http://i51.tinypic.com/mbsp5k.jpg

[Slathar]

Summary:

DA is caught cheating.
IB has known cheaters and they are not banned.
IB has a guild leader who is a developer and changes game mechanics to further his goals in online dominance (lol).
IB claims "tinfoil" hats even though there is evidence in this very thread and patch notes.

Ownage complete. Lock it up.

victory!

[99troof]

While on the topic of cheaters on P99, lets take a look down memory lane.

Ohhhh Trans, how I don't miss you.

http://i51.tinypic.com/11vi45w.jpg

[Rareen]

While on the topic of cheaters on P99, lets take a look down memory lane.

Ohhhh Trans, how I don't miss you.

http://i51.tinypic.com/11vi45w.jpg

Lol look at that Supreme

[Slathar]

* Xzerion: Added pathing to an icy terror located near Vox.

Still waiting on a reply to this one. Please tell me a good excuse for this, because I would love to hear the spin you idiots put on this.

The complete and utter embarassment that is IB (has developer guild leader who changes game mechanics to benefit his guild and harbors known ShowEQ users presently) has been silenced. Infidels cower before the almighty power of RnF.

[sobchak123]

I feel the need to set the record straight as well concerning those patch notes.

They were edited a day or so later to include the change by Xzerion. The original patch notes made no mention of that TT's pathing being changed.

[t0lkien]

"I did see that Xzerion did change the pathing of a mob where DA sets up a raid"

Wait wait wait... a dev changed the pathing on a mob during a raid so a guild gets an easy kill? I mean... really?

So here's the thing, apart from the obvious ugliness of that on the behalf of the dev, the entire point of winning is that you did it fairly right? Where's the satisfaction in beating something because you cheated, especially an MMO?

Hell, look, why not just hack the DB to drop multiples of all the pixels you guys so obviously desire into everyone's inventory. Give everyone in these guilds everything they could possibly want. Honestly, do it, it solves all the issues.

Now those of us who enjoy playing the game can get on with playing it.

[Rais]

99troof = Xzerion?

[nilbog]

Permafrost pathing. Really? Well I was handling that the next morning, so here's the facts.

-Npc was given pathing
-The change wasn't listed in the changelog because Xzerion can't even see the changelog to post it in.
-Patch happens
-Npc now has pathing on live server
-Few people ask about the pathing.
-The change didn't appear in the patch notes initially, because it wasn't on said changelog
-Xzerion verifies it doesn't need pathing and fixes it back
-I edited the patch notes to include it
-Added to next changelog

It persists because there hasn't been a patch to include the revert. You'll see it in the patch notes.

He paths multiple npcs a day.

How this thread turned in slandering developers and GMs? I'm not sure. I'm going to ban some of you.

[HellsFury]

So you guys are dragging a dead guild into your shitfest to take attention away from yourselves. You are all foul disgusting people here on this forum. The blame here lies with everyone, no one is innocent.

[Nakara]

-Npc was given pathing


for what reason?

[Ronas]

How this thread turned in slandering developers and GMs? I'm not sure. I'm going to ban some of you.

The problem is 60% of all the people posting in here are already banned/quit, they just like to linger. Unless you ban the forum post access, but they just troll with something else...

[Billfrommst1]

So this is my view DA has been farming gods/sky for what 6 months now? that was more then enough time to gear atleast 3 of your lvl 50 alts out each.... so i think DA should step down n retire till kunark comes out after all they are selling loots now.... kinda says they dont need the gear nemore
my 2 cp

[Japan]

wait you can get banned for trolling in the trolling forum? gg

[Xzerion]

So go back to Sep 2008 till now and look at our fixed forums and all of our change logs. There have been multiple things that were changed based off memory and research that was later changed or changed back due to further research/evidence. It's nothing new, mistakes happen. This was put in weeks before the patch and fixed within 2 days after the patch, and probably would have been fixed even faster if people asked me. I still recall that TT pathing, just like I recall the Diplomat being perma rooted (thats been changed back and forth before too). On live the TT doesn't path right now so that's how it is going to stay.

This in no way was done to "screw" or harm another guild. If I wanted to do that there are a hell of alot worse things that I could have done, am I wrong? I mean pathing 1 single TT....really? Regardless, the classic permafrost connoisseur that you are, why were you not jumping up and down screaming and posting that the giants and terrors should see invis/sneak? Because on live they do and next patch they will here as well. And the reason you dont see "huge" contributions from me in changelogs is because I have been almost exclusively working on kunark, which is not uploaded to patch changelogs, as well as misc pathing fixes in the classic area. As nilbog said, I do not have the forum access where the changelog is placed, which is why none of the other fixes from classic end up there. Nobody gets paid for this but you go right on ahead and keep enjoying the benefits of others work.

[nilbog]

If you flame developers, for development, you get banned. i.e. Collusion between players/staff, favoritism, etc etc. That's an insult to the development team. Bring some proof to management, or stfu.

NEVER make a personal attack against a developer or GM staff, or you will be suspended.

If a developer or a GM attacks *you* in rants and flames, I'd consider it fair game to retaliate.

[Rais]

Yea, bitching about 1 TT is stupid.

[Supreme]

While on the topic of cheaters on P99, lets take a look down memory lane.

Ohhhh Trans, how I don't miss you.

http://i51.tinypic.com/11vi45w.jpg

Thats it?

While we extended good faith to IB when they was FAILING and attempted to accomodate them, Xzerion(or one of his officers) decided to troll our officer forums for posts about old OLD shit from EZ server.

This somehow translates into Trans cheats....yet......no one has been banned...why?

Because through all the "monitoring" and "investigating" it was found that Trans never cheated.

And lets go further since we want to bring it up....

How many people in IB have been banned for cheating? How many in Trans?

O'Realy!!

[Stefen]

Let's get this topic back on track-

This server needs a three strikes policy for guild behavior. (I think one-strike if leadership is involved, personally)

DA has been caught duping items, training, and now using ShowEQ. How many chances do they deserve before they are disbanded, honestly?

To the players in DA- Why do you remain? Do you seriously want loot pixels so badly without caring how you get them? Do you honestly* think the DA leadership had no idea what was going on? How many times will you need to see your guildmates banned/suspended? How much longer will you be willing to risk a suspension for your own toon for the actions of cheaters in your guild?

Anyone who remains tagged and raiding in DA after this most recent scandal deserves the reputation they earn. Continuing to follow the leadership of players who cheat is tantamount to cheating itself. By showing up for their raids, you enable to continue earning undeserved loot for themselves.

[Rareen]

If you flame developers, for development, you get banned. i.e. Collusion between players/staff, favoritism, etc etc. That's an insult to the development team. Bring some proof to management, or stfu.



If a developer or a GM attacks *you* in rants and flames, I'd consider it fair game to retaliate.

Oh nice so when Uthgaard talks shit now we got your approval to tell him to fuck off nice :)

[Uthgaard]

When Uthgaard talks shit in Rants and Flames, its in response to someone crying about a suspension in the wrong forum. So you're just having your ass handed right back to you.

It's amusing watching all of this shit get flung back and forth, though. You can build up imaginary implications of your tears all you want, but it's no secret that the biggest whiners and conspiracy theorists in this thread are exclusively that. People lurk on the forums, scouring everything that passes before their eyes for a reason to hop up on a soapbox and go turbo emo.

If you have a complaint that you feel is valid, there are appropriate channels for it. If you never brought your "super sekret insider infoz" to the staff, you've got nothing to bitch about.

P99 isn't here to corner a market share. It's here to recreate a classic experience. You get to play here while that happens. If you think it could be better, you have two choices. You can either get on board and help make it better, or you can get off your whiny, lazy asses and start one in your own vision and see how well you do.

But if you have it so bad, and you can take the initiative to ramble on for 35 pages, but not lift a finger to implement positive change, then all you ever wanted was cry, and you can choke on your own tears.

[President]

Sup guys?

[Sydarm]

When Uthgaard talks shit in Rants and Flames, its in response to someone crying about a suspension in the wrong forum. So you're just having your ass handed right back to you.

It's amusing watching all of this shit get flung back and forth, though. You can build up imaginary implications of your tears all you want, but it's no secret that the biggest whiners and conspiracy theorists in this thread are exclusively that. People lurk on the forums, scouring everything that passes before their eyes for a reason to hop up on a soapbox and go turbo emo.

If you have a complaint that you feel is valid, there are appropriate channels for it. If you never brought your "super sekret insider infoz" to the staff, you've got nothing to bitch about.

P99 isn't here to corner a market share. It's here to recreate a classic experience. You get to play here while that happens. If you think it could be better, you have two choices. You can either get on board and help make it better, or you can get off your whiny, lazy asses and start one in your own vision and see how well you do.

But if you have it so bad, and you can take the initiative to ramble on for 35 pages, but not lift a finger to implement positive change, then all you ever wanted was cry, and you can choke on your own tears.

My guild has petitioned about nearly every significant issue brought up in this thread. You don't give a fuck. May as well admit it.

[nalkin]

Guys, I've been out of town for the week, someone give me the skinny.

[sobchak123]

Changing that "1 TT" completely changes the entire raid encounter. The prep, pulling, everything.

You changed it literally the day after you the GUILD YOU LEAD (Inglorious Basterds) lost the raid encounter to a rival guild.

[Anonymous]

turbo emo
Best term ever.
you can choke on your own tears
Why not harvest them for your own enjoyment?

[Swishahouse]

"super sekret insider infoz"



SuprSekret

[Billfrommst1]

DA's new guild Moto

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't tryn"

[Diggle]

Who wants to get womped in ssf4? ..

[Rareen]

When Uthgaard talks shit in Rants and Flames, its in response to someone crying about a suspension in the wrong forum. So you're just having your ass handed right back to you.

It's amusing watching all of this shit get flung back and forth, though. You can build up imaginary implications of your tears all you want, but it's no secret that the biggest whiners and conspiracy theorists in this thread are exclusively that. People lurk on the forums, scouring everything that passes before their eyes for a reason to hop up on a soapbox and go turbo emo.

If you have a complaint that you feel is valid, there are appropriate channels for it. If you never brought your "super sekret insider infoz" to the staff, you've got nothing to bitch about.

P99 isn't here to corner a market share. It's here to recreate a classic experience. You get to play here while that happens. If you think it could be better, you have two choices. You can either get on board and help make it better, or you can get off your whiny, lazy asses and start one in your own vision and see how well you do.

But if you have it so bad, and you can take the initiative to ramble on for 35 pages, but not lift a finger to implement positive change, then all you ever wanted was cry, and you can choke on your own tears.

Go ban some people ingame because they do use the proper channel because you think they waste your time. Your such a fucking tool.

[magic]

When Uthgaard talks shit in Rants and Flames, its in response to someone crying about a suspension in the wrong forum. So you're just having your ass handed right back to you.

It's amusing watching all of this shit get flung back and forth, though. You can build up imaginary implications of your tears all you want, but it's no secret that the biggest whiners and conspiracy theorists in this thread are exclusively that. People lurk on the forums, scouring everything that passes before their eyes for a reason to hop up on a soapbox and go turbo emo.

If you have a complaint that you feel is valid, there are appropriate channels for it. If you never brought your "super sekret insider infoz" to the staff, you've got nothing to bitch about.

P99 isn't here to corner a market share. It's here to recreate a classic experience. You get to play here while that happens. If you think it could be better, you have two choices. You can either get on board and help make it better, or you can get off your whiny, lazy asses and start one in your own vision and see how well you do.

But if you have it so bad, and you can take the initiative to ramble on for 35 pages, but not lift a finger to implement positive change, then all you ever wanted was cry, and you can choke on your own tears.

I had a valid complaint about members of IB. I had chat logs of a few of them openly admitting to using MQ and ShowEQ. I sent the logs to Xzerion and he did nothing. There you fucking have it. I'm sick of the GMs here saying there is no favoritism -- There is. It's obvious, blatant, and I think everyone just needs to accept it and get the fuck over it because nothing's ever going to change.

[Rareen]

DA's new guild Moto

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't tryn"

Other guilds just do it better and dont rat on eachother thats why they are not caught

[Uthgaard]

Xzerion isn't a GM, can't see the petition forum, and isn't a proper channel. Sooo yeah.

[Taluvill]

He used to be a GM until certain things were heavily questioned about things that went on, am I right?

[magic]

Xzerion isn't a GM, can't see the petition forum, and isn't a proper channel. Sooo yeah.

Rogean is a GM. Hobby is a guide. Nilbog is a GM.

My characters were stripped and deleted, I created posts and sent in petitions, and nothing was done.

Had I been some upstanding member of IB, I'm sure I would have been reimbursed; Obviously this is not the case.

The simple fact is that the "powers that be" are selective in their punishments and the severity of said punishments.

[Abacab niggah]

Xzerion isn't a GM, can't see the petition forum, and isn't a proper channel. Sooo yeah.

Nilbog JUST stated if GM's come in R&F and make grandiose insults that it's "fair game" to insult them back. Your TL;DR paragraph was nothing more than a jab at everyone here by calling us inferior to yourself.

You ban people because they snap back at your crack calls and your overzealous and malformed way of handing player complaints? If you can't handle criticism especially on R&F then don't post here, if you can't stay away from the ban key every time a player questions you then you should probably resign and allocate your time in the real world...

Cause this silencing of dissent shit is getting really old, really quick.

[Lazortag]

Nilbog JUST stated if GM's come in R&F and make grandiose insults that it's "fair game" to insult them back. Your TL;DR paragraph was nothing more than a jab at everyone here by calling us inferior to yourself.

You ban people because they snap back at your crack calls and your overzealous and malformed way of handing player complaints? If you can't handle criticism especially on R&F then don't post here, if you can't stay away from the ban key every time a player questions you then you should probably resign and allocate your time in the real world...

Cause this silencing of dissent shit is getting really old, really quick.

Abacab, please refer to the following link for further inspiration in your posts:

http://www.azlyrics.com/r/rageagainst.html

[Uthgaard]

Then leave already, and take your crybaby e-thugs with you. You'd only be doing everyone a favor. Your washed-up, self-serving, wanna-be revolutionaryism is what's old. This isn't a government. You aren't citizens.

It's a volunteer project, if you don't like how long it takes on average for our staff of less than 10 to handle most of the issues the thousands of players on average, tough shit. Manage your expectations instead of being a prima donna and crying that no one handled your issue that you probably could have prevented in the first place.

Someone got banned for cheating. That's what happened, in case you forgot in your quest to turn this into something it's not. End of story.