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Gulliver

10-23-2015, 12:13 AM

TLDR chest is a monsterous cunt. braknar is likewise. camps dont exist anymore and 8th ring war + scout charisa is free game.

Chest does this and braknar awards him the camp. I get suspended. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G9kc0_PxmE)
Rogean your lackeys are running rampant...

[Thu Oct 22 18:23:25 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'o gawd' <-- pet break
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:29 2015] Chuckles the Great says 'You will not evade me Shoneys!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:29 2015] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:30 2015] You tell your party, 'o no'
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:32 2015] You tell your party, 'jesus'
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:34 2015] You tell your party, 'O NO JESUJS'
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:40 2015] Nixxar has fallen to the ground.
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:51 2015] Nixxar has fallen to the ground.
[Thu Oct 22 18:23:57 2015] You say, 'lol'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:01 2015] Chest says, 'womp' sees at the camp waiting..xx:24
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:02 2015] Nixxar has fallen to the ground.
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:05 2015] You say, 'serious'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:07 2015] You say, 'ARE WE SERIOUS'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:21 2015] You tell your party, '3 FD fails in a row'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:22 2015] You tell your party, 'lol'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:25 2015] You tell your party, 'last time tha thappened to me'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:35 2015] You tell your party, 'i dont even remember'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:47 2015] You tell your party, 'actually i do it was in pofear'
[Thu Oct 22 18:24:50 2015] You tell your party, 'and it was bullshit'
[Thu Oct 22 18:25:01 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'fucking chest here'
[Thu Oct 22 18:26:04 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'theyll prob just take it'
[Thu Oct 22 18:26:17 2015] Game Time: Wednesday, July 04, 3148 - 3 AM
[Thu Oct 22 18:26:17 2015] Earth Time: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:26:17
[Thu Oct 22 18:26:19 2015] You tell your party, 'only 3am'
[Thu Oct 22 18:26:56 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'yea they will'
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:03 2015] You tell your party, 'doesnt matter its still our camp'
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] Players on EverQuest:
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] ---------------------------
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Mikeo <Divinity>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Vasec <Bregan D`Aerth>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Shoneys (High Elf) <Taken>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Trollolololol <Bregan D`Aerth>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Chest <Bregan D`Aerth>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Jadian <Haggard Krew>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [60 High Priest] Trustme (Dwarf) <Taken>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Quickfist (Human) <Rampage>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [60 Oracle] Pooma (Bear) <Divinity>
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Nixxar (Iksar)
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:31 2015] There are 10 players in Plane of Mischief.
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:33 2015] Game Time: Wednesday, July 04, 3148 - 4 AM
[Thu Oct 22 18:27:33 2015] Earth Time: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:27:33
[Thu Oct 22 18:28:15 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'fuckin need that shit off brenn'
[Thu Oct 22 18:31:00 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'comin back with brenn'
[Thu Oct 22 18:31:00 2015] Game Time: Wednesday, July 04, 3148 - 5 AM
[Thu Oct 22 18:31:00 2015] Earth Time: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:31:00
[Thu Oct 22 18:31:16 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'we can duo. ill bring qualia after we get the stuff off brenn'
[Thu Oct 22 18:31:16 2015] You are enveloped in a swirling maelstrom.
[Thu Oct 22 18:31:26 2015] Game Time: Wednesday, July 04, 3148 - 5 AM
[Thu Oct 22 18:33:20 2015] You tell your party, 'just gonna keep brenn till we kill geb ?'
[Thu Oct 22 18:33:22 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'after we kill geb, kill brenn'
[Thu Oct 22 18:33:24 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'yea'
[Thu Oct 22 18:33:25 2015] Nachtigall begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Oct 22 18:33:28 2015] Game Time: Wednesday, July 04, 3148 - 6 AM

[Thu Oct 22 18:36:49 2015] Geb has been slain by Brenn!
[Thu Oct 22 18:36:49 2015] You gain party experience!!

[Thu Oct 22 18:37:05 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'mk kill brenn up top'

[Thu Oct 22 18:39:28 2015] You have slain Brenn!
[Thu Oct 22 18:39:28 2015] You gain party experience!!
[Thu Oct 22 18:39:31 2015] --Shoneys has looted a Tolapumj's Robe.--
[Thu Oct 22 18:39:32 2015] --Shoneys has looted a Tome of the Eternal.--
[Thu Oct 22 18:39:39 2015] Shoneys tells the group, 'ok brb'
[Thu Oct 22 18:40:03 2015] Shoneys has left the group.
[Thu Oct 22 18:40:03 2015] Your group has been disbanded.

[Thu Oct 22 18:40:37 2015] Tribunal Puppet yawns. 34 seconds after my groupmate camped
[Thu Oct 22 18:40:40 2015] You say, '...'
[Thu Oct 22 18:40:46 2015] You say, 'puppets are camped'
[Thu Oct 22 18:40:49 2015] You say, 'obviously'
[Thu Oct 22 18:40:53 2015] Chest says, 'by yourself?'
[Thu Oct 22 18:41:13 2015] You say, 'we jus tkilled geb hes switching chars.. had to get items off charm pet'

[Thu Oct 22 18:41:58 2015] ---------------------------------
[Thu Oct 22 18:41:58 2015] [60 Oracle] Qualia (Barbarian) <Taken> ZONE: mischiefplane <-- less than 2 minutes from camping my group mate is back in zone ready to go...

[Thu Oct 22 18:42:35 2015] Qualia says, 'guys'
[Thu Oct 22 18:42:42 2015] Chest says, 'hi'
[Thu Oct 22 18:42:51 2015] You say, 'weven been camping this...'
[Thu Oct 22 18:42:58 2015] You say, 'typically people show up and do a CC'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:01 2015] You say, 'then when things are claimed'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:03 2015] Chest says, 'they weren't up when we got here' <--derp how does Eq work herrrr im chest i lead BDA
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:05 2015] You say, 'you move on to something else'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:14 2015] Chest says, 'and there's no way a duo did a full puppet clear in the time for stuff to despawn' <-- bad.... bad bad bad... BAD x10 THOUSAND
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:15 2015] You say, 'do yo unot know how the zone works'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:16 2015] Qualia says, 'we just killed geb'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:24 2015] You say, 'geb spawns at 7am'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:26 2015] You say, 'GAME TIME'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:29 2015] You say, 'they obviously wont be up'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:32 2015] You say, 'if you just show up'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:36 2015] Chest says, 'then how have you been camping it?'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:40 2015] You say, '...' <- trust me i really wanted to just give up and walk away.
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:44 2015] You say, 'WE CLEARED THE LAST SPAWN'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:47 2015] You say, 'WAITING FOR THE NEXT'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:52 2015] You say, 'you have wit fucking tool'
[Thu Oct 22 18:43:56 2015] You say, 'half' <- FUCK ME
[Thu Oct 22 18:44:02 2015] You say, 'slow tunare' <- god damn right i said it
[Thu Oct 22 18:44:37 2015] Qualia says, 'just gonna let you know this is our camp'

[Thu Oct 22 18:44:56 2015] Tunare Puppet yawns.
[Thu Oct 22 18:44:58 2015] Auto attack is on.

[Thu Oct 22 18:44:59 2015] Chest says, 'i've sat here with 4, monk and wizard dpsing, and didn't clear all the puppets while non stop killing' < lol so bad.. gaaawd so bad.

[Thu Oct 22 18:45:12 2015] Chest says, 'so you hadn't cleared the entire cycle, you weren't camping it' noooope we duo it regularly....

[Thu Oct 22 18:45:19 2015] Qualia says, 'i did'
[Thu Oct 22 18:45:23 2015] Qualia says, 'i duoed this... all... day'
[Thu Oct 22 18:45:25 2015] Chest says, 'i didnt say it can't be duoed, im saying you aren't killing every single puppet before geb comes back' < except we did

[Thu Oct 22 18:45:26 2015] You say, 'jesus dude i have heard rumors'
[Thu Oct 22 18:45:30 2015] You say, 'first time ive encoutered you personally'

[Thu Oct 22 18:46:24 2015] Chest says, 'kill some puppets man, start at the solusek ro side' <-- free invitation to kill puppets at my own camp.
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:34 2015] You say, 'sure'
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:34 2015] Nachtigall says, 'comparing cehst to jesus? that's awesome!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:46 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Trollolololol!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:49 2015] Chest is completely healed.
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:50 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Trollolololol!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:50 2015] Trollolololol's casting is interrupted!
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:50 2015] Trollolololol has been slain by Tunare Puppet!
[Thu Oct 22 18:46:50 2015] You say, 'kill some puppets guys'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:01 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:12 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:23 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:26 2015] You say, 'been real'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:27 2015] You say, 'l2p'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:28 2015] Vasec's casting is interrupted!
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:28 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Chest!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:56 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Nachtigall!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:56 2015] Nachtigall has been slain by Tunare Puppet!
[Thu Oct 22 18:47:57 2015] Chest says, 'such l2p'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:20 2015] You say, 'dont try to steal something obviously camped ?'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:28 2015] Vasec tells you, 'wow that was a dick move =/'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:34 2015] Chest says, 'it wasn't camped, you didn't have a kill force'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:37 2015] You told Vasec, 'not unlike trying to steal a camp'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:44 2015] Vasec tells you, 'kinda childish on your part'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:45 2015] You say, 'yes we did... we solo this shm/mnk all the time'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:46 2015] You say, 'jesus dude'
[Thu Oct 22 18:48:51 2015] Chest says, 'you aren't soloing puppets, you aren't duoing them with an enchanter'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:02 2015] You say, 'im duoing them with a shaman. we do it'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:04 2015] You say, 'all'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:04 2015] You say, 'the'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:05 2015] You say, 'time'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:22 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Trollolololol!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:23 2015] Vasec tells you, 'pretty sure its considered greifing todo that'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:24 2015] Trollolololol has been slain by Tribunal Puppet!
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:25 2015] You told Vasec, 'childish is trying to steal a camp that we have ben at for hours'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:27 2015] Chest says, 'lol'
[Thu Oct 22 18:49:58 2015] Vasec tells you, 'dont know anything about that mate, i was asked to come help kill puppets, so here i am. All isee is you getting us summoned and killed and mouthing off in /say. . good job on your part i guess =/'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:11 2015] You told Vasec, 'well you were asked by your guild leader or someone who didnt know what was going on'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:23 2015] You told Vasec, 'the way puppets work is the event starts at 7am game time'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:24 2015] Vasec tells you, 'and the response is to get me killed? seems logical'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:35 2015] You told Vasec, 'you kill Geb and bristlebane doesnt spawn. if he does. he despanws everything in the theater'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:46 2015] You told Vasec, 'dude i sat here and told chest it was camped. he ignored me and went ahead'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:52 2015] You told Vasec, 'if you want to blame anyone blame him'
[Thu Oct 22 18:50:56 2015] Vasec tells you, 'good to know, then take your squable up with chest .. and not me.'
[Thu Oct 22 18:51:11 2015] You told vasec, 'well i was.. then you sent me tells. now im responding'
[Thu Oct 22 18:51:24 2015] Vasec tells you, 'you just greifed me from my point of view .. thats all im responding and talking about here'
[Thu Oct 22 18:51:30 2015] You told Vasec, 'ok'
[Thu Oct 22 18:53:11 2015] Vasec tells you, 'so if oyu have a squable with chest, keep it to him dont involve innocent parties. think next time'
[Thu Oct 22 18:54:15 2015] You told Vasec, 'ok'
[Thu Oct 22 18:54:20 2015] You told Vasec, 'innocent parties killing my camp*'

[Thu Oct 22 18:55:08 2015] You tell your party, 'gonna run fraps from here out'
[Thu Oct 22 18:55:26 2015] Qualia tells the group, 'yea, no use killing them. just gonna train us'
[Thu Oct 22 18:55:53 2015] Vasec tells you, 'again, i was asked to come kill puppets. i dont know anything about whatever stuff you got going on with chest. You don't the passengers in the car for an accident, don't involve me in your beef with chest'
[Thu Oct 22 18:56:19 2015] Qualia says, 'id appreciate it if you guys left our camp'
[Thu Oct 22 18:56:23 2015] Qualia says, 'stage fight'
[Thu Oct 22 18:56:34 2015] Qualia says, 'no pun intended'
[Thu Oct 22 18:57:09 2015] You told Vasec, 'i have no beef with chest other than we have been at this camp and he showed up and then others showed up trying to steal it '
[Thu Oct 22 18:57:18 2015] You told Vasec, 'and he behaved like an asshole'
[Thu Oct 22 18:57:27 2015] You told Vasec, 'and engaged the camp after i told him it was ours'
[Thu Oct 22 18:57:30 2015] You told Vasec, 'sorry you gto dragged into it'
[Thu Oct 22 18:57:55 2015] You tell your party, 'just slow this'
[Thu Oct 22 18:57:59 2015] You tell your party, 'its our camp'
[Thu Oct 22 18:58:08 2015] You tell your party, 'if they kill us'
[Thu Oct 22 18:58:10 2015] You tell your party, 'we can res'
[Thu Oct 22 18:58:48 2015] You tell your party, 'hows mana'
[Thu Oct 22 18:58:53 2015] You tell your party, 'should prob load pet for dps'
[Thu Oct 22 18:58:58 2015] You tell your party, 'can dot once i have proc's in'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:00 2015] You tell your party, 'load avatar'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:02 2015] You tell your party, 'have emeralds'

[Thu Oct 22 18:59:17 2015] You tell your party, 'lol here it goers' <chest engages a puppet
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:18 2015] You tell your party, 'camp'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:20 2015] You tell your party, 'camp'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:48 2015] You tell your party, 'ill stay up'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:51 2015] Qualia has left the group.
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:51 2015] Your group has been disbanded. < time to fd
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:52 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Nachtigall!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:52 2015] Auto attack is off.
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:56 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Nachtigall!'
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:56 2015] Nachtigall has been slain by Tribunal Puppet!
[Thu Oct 22 18:59:58 2015] You say, 'lolololloololol'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:01 2015] You say, 'OH MAN GREIFING YOUR OWN GUILD ?'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:03 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:07 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:11 2015] You told Vasec, 'thats chest grieifng you btw'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:13 2015] You told Vasec, 'take it up with him'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:14 2015] Tunare Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:18 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Vasec!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:18 2015] Vasec has been slain by Tribunal Puppet!
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:22 2015] You say, 'fraps'd'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:27 2015] You say, '#1 guildleader'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:28 2015] Command '1' not recognized.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet says 'You will not evade me Trollolololol!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:29 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:31 2015] You say, 'chest rockwell'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Trollolololol's casting is interrupted!
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Tribunal Puppet was pierced by thorns.
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:40 2015] Trollolololol has been slain by Tribunal Puppet!
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:47 2015] Chest says, 'I learned it from you dad!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:52 2015] You say, 'except you are bad'

GETTING GOOD NOW

[Thu Oct 22 19:39:50 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Senior Guide Braknar here. Seems we have some sorta issue?'
[Thu Oct 22 19:40:38 2015] You told Braknar, 'hail'
[Thu Oct 22 19:40:40 2015] You told Braknar, 'back from afk'
[Thu Oct 22 19:40:42 2015] You told Braknar, 'we do'
[Thu Oct 22 19:41:21 2015] Braknar tells you, ''splain?'
[Thu Oct 22 19:41:22 2015] You told Braknar, 'qualia(shoneys) and i were grouping here at the puppets camp'
[Thu Oct 22 19:41:32 2015] You told Braknar, 'we killed the last spawn of puppets'
[Thu Oct 22 19:41:41 2015] You told Braknar, 'and were wating for the next spawn at 7am'
[Thu Oct 22 19:41:58 2015] You told Braknar, 'i guess before i continue are you famliar with how puppets in PoM work ?' <-- hes not lol...
[Thu Oct 22 19:42:03 2015] You told Braknar, 'not trying to be rude'
[Thu Oct 22 19:42:21 2015] Braknar tells you, 'I am'
[Thu Oct 22 19:42:29 2015] Braknar tells you, 'They summon, etc' VERY ASTUTE YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGEING ABLE AND SMART AND STUFF
[Thu Oct 22 19:42:30 2015] You told Braknar, 'ok so we killed all of the last round of puppets'
[Thu Oct 22 19:42:34 2015] You told Braknar, 'i have logs of it'
[Thu Oct 22 19:43:14 2015] You told Braknar, 'well most importantly is the event starts at 7am when Geb spawns. he's the first member of the theatre audience to spawn. if you kill him bristlebane wont spawn and thusly despawn everything in the theatre (puppets and audience included)'
[Thu Oct 22 19:43:27 2015] You told Braknar, 'so after we killed last round of puppets and waited for next round. we killed Geb'
[Thu Oct 22 19:43:48 2015] You told Braknar, 'waited for puppets while seeint Chest Trololololollo *dont know how many lolols his namehas * and Vasec'
[Thu Oct 22 19:43:52 2015] You told Braknar, 'seeing*'
[Thu Oct 22 19:44:00 2015] You told Braknar, 'i told him it was our camp and he ignored me'
[Thu Oct 22 19:44:11 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Well, thing is. Can you clear the camp with the people you have here?'
[Thu Oct 22 19:44:15 2015] You told Braknar, 'claiming i didnt have kill force. though we(qualia and i) duo this camp regulrarly'
[Thu Oct 22 19:44:22 2015] You told Braknar, 'yes absolutely'
[Thu Oct 22 19:44:25 2015] You told Braknar, 'we do it regulralry'
[Thu Oct 22 19:44:47 2015] You told Braknar, 'ive been in pom almost every day for a month and htis is literally the first time anyone has been this ignorant about contesting the camp.. its pretty much accepted how it works'
[Thu Oct 22 19:45:29 2015] You told Braknar, 'our kill force was absolutely sufficient when chest attempted to steal it. even his group/guild mates didnt really know what were going on'
[Thu Oct 22 19:45:30 2015] Braknar tells you, 'So generally with camps, we also enforce that you must engage quickly after a spawn.'
[Thu Oct 22 19:45:49 2015] You told Braknar, 'vasec(the cleric) just told me " i was told to come help with puppets, if you have a beef with chest take it up with him"'
[Thu Oct 22 19:46:05 2015] You told Braknar, 'from what i understand on scripted events( like upppets) you have 20 minutes to engage'
[Thu Oct 22 19:46:08 2015] You told Braknar, 'much like scout charisa'
[Thu Oct 22 19:46:39 2015] Trollolololol begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Oct 22 19:46:40 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Seems he is contesting that you were even here, since when he arrived all puppets were dead.' < more proof he has no idea what hes talking about and just arbitrating in the dark
[Thu Oct 22 19:46:47 2015] You told Braknar, 'it hadnt been any significant interim of time between our killing of Geb and chest engaging' [Thu Oct 22 18:36:49 2015] Geb has been slain by Brenn![Thu Oct 22 18:41:58 2015] [60 Oracle] Qualia (Barbarian) <Taken> ZONE: mischiefplane
[Thu Oct 22 19:46:57 2015] You told Braknar, 'the only delay was because shoneys had dropalbe items on his previous pet'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:01 2015] You told Braknar, 'that we needed to kill so he could loot'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:05 2015] You told Braknar, 'and then switch to his shaman'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:08 2015] You told Braknar, 'to kill puppets'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:16 2015] Chest regards you indifferently -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:30 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Well, I'm pulling logs, we'll see what kindda gap it is'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:32 2015] You told Braknar, 'Chest obviously doesnt know how this spawn/event works which si why i asked if you also were aware'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:38 2015] You told Braknar, 'like i said not trying to be rude'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:44 2015] You told Braknar, 'its just the mechanics are pretty straight forward'
[Thu Oct 22 19:47:59 2015] You told Braknar, 'the puppets wont be up when he shows up to steal our camp if we have just finished clearing all of them'
[Thu Oct 22 19:48:16 2015] You told Braknar, 'the event starts at 7am when Geb spawns'
[Thu Oct 22 19:48:23 2015] You told Braknar, 'if you dont kill Geb ... Bristlebane spawns'
[Thu Oct 22 19:48:43 2015] You told Braknar, 'and at 9am he will do an emote zonewide then do a "say" along the lines of "nothing to see here move along" and despawns everying'
[Thu Oct 22 19:50:59 2015] You told Braknar, 'i mean theres nothing you can do in between spawns other than wait for Geb at 7am which is what i did. was absolutely our camp by any and all server rules. i would prefer not to but if necessary i'll submit a formal petition with logs and fraps of chest killing us'
[Thu Oct 22 19:51:02 2015] Braknar tells you, 'So I see Geb dying about an hour and a half ago'
[Thu Oct 22 19:51:09 2015] You told Braknar, 'yup to us'
[Thu Oct 22 19:51:37 2015] You told Braknar, '[Thu Oct 22 18:36:49 2015] Geb has been slain by Brenn!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:51:38 2015] Slowscales tells you, 'why is no one killing shit'
[Thu Oct 22 19:51:59 2015] You told Slowscales, 'ehh too much to get into but your guild leader tried to steal our camp and now hes got the Gm's invovled sooooo dealing with that'
[Thu Oct 22 19:52:51 2015] You told Slowscales, 'honestly the first time in over a month anyone has tried to even contest a puppet camp let alone steal it in this ignorant fashion'

[Thu Oct 22 19:54:00 2015] Bristlebane shouts, 'Bah! Where be the Cazic Thule Puppet! Ridiculously funny!'
[Thu Oct 22 19:54:07 2015] You say, 'see that'
[Thu Oct 22 19:54:10 2015] You say, 'scripted'
[Thu Oct 22 19:54:53 2015] Game Time: Thursday, July 05, 3148 - 9 AM
[Thu Oct 22 19:54:53 2015] Earth Time: Thursday, October 22, 2015 19:54:53
[Thu Oct 22 19:55:53 2015] Braknar tells you, 'So sounds like his issue was you were here, originally, with just a monk/chanter'
[Thu Oct 22 19:56:33 2015] You told Braknar, 'his issue mostly is hes a moron but being more diplomatic. he says in the few minutes between geb dying and him egnaging tribunal i didnt have a "kill force"' < never go full blown retard...
[Thu Oct 22 19:56:37 2015] Braknar tells you, 'You should know you can't pull the "switching toons" card'
[Thu Oct 22 19:56:46 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Ya that doesn't fly'
[Thu Oct 22 19:56:49 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Not with any camp'
[Thu Oct 22 19:56:59 2015] Braknar tells you, 'You have to have the people online, there, that can handle it'
[Thu Oct 22 19:56:59 2015] You told Braknar, 'scripted events give you 20 minutes to engage'
[Thu Oct 22 19:57:04 2015] You told Braknar, 'thats the precedent'
[Thu Oct 22 19:57:24 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Now you're lawyerQuesting, which is exceedingly annoying. OH GOD IM SO SORRY FOR ASSUMING YOU WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PRECEDENT FOR MORE THAN 2 WEEKS AT A TIME. WHAT ARE THE RULES FOR WEDNESDAY? FUCK IT LETS AWARD THINGS 100% RANDOMLY
[Thu Oct 22 19:57:36 2015] You told Braknar, 'dude ive been peacefully clearing'
[Thu Oct 22 19:57:45 2015] You told Braknar, 'this guy shows up and trys to steal our shit'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:07 2015] You told Braknar, 'Geb is the trigger. it was ours we killed it'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:10 2015] You told Braknar, 'we had a force'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:14 2015] You told Braknar, 'ew have a 20 minute window'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:17 2015] You told Braknar, 'i hate lawyer quest'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:23 2015] Braknar tells you, 'And in Quillmane, just killing triggers gives you no claim to Quillmane'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:23 2015] You told Braknar, 'its why i deguilded from the raid scene'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:28 2015] You told Braknar, 'i hate dealing with this shit'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:37 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Triggers do not mean you get claim on anything'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:40 2015] You told Braknar, 'this is nothing like quillmane...'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:51 2015] Braknar tells you, 'For the example of triggering, it is'
[Thu Oct 22 19:58:53 2015] You told Braknar, 'quillmane spawns at a spawn point thousands of locs away from the triggers'
[Thu Oct 22 19:59:00 2015] You told Braknar, 'this is 50 feet away'
[Thu Oct 22 19:59:05 2015] You told Braknar, 'its a script'
[Thu Oct 22 19:59:06 2015] Braknar says out of character, 'Ok nerds.'
[Thu Oct 22 19:59:15 2015] Braknar says out of character, 'Here's the ruling. Nixxar, you need to give this up'
[Thu Oct 22 19:59:19 2015] Chest says out of character, 'sirken trademarked that, you need a new insult' <-- THUMB MY GSPOT A LITTLE MORE IM ABOUT TO COME ON YOUR NECKBEARD UNNNGHHHGNGH
[Thu Oct 22 19:59:24 2015] Braknar says out of character, 'As we have established you didn't have sufficient force'
[Thu Oct 22 20:01:20 2015] You told Braknar, 'what a joke dude'
[Thu Oct 22 20:02:27 2015] You told braknar, 'seriously man if that was the issue we'd have killed the pet earlier to collect items and wtich to shaman... its a FULL EQ DAY SPAWN. you dont need to be on the point every minute'
[Thu Oct 22 20:02:38 2015] You told braknar, 'NOONE HAS EVER TRIED TO BE AS HUGE A CUNT as chest to steal this camp'
[Thu Oct 22 20:02:41 2015] You told braknar, 'and you side with him'
[Thu Oct 22 20:02:55 2015] You told braknar, 'we had a force'
[Thu Oct 22 20:02:58 2015] You told braknar, 'the entire time'
[Thu Oct 22 20:03:26 2015] Braknar tells you, 'You know full well staff camp dispute tulings are not up for discussion. If you disagree, I invite you to post a petition on the forums, and I'll pass it along to Sirken.'
[Thu Oct 22 20:03:35 2015] You told Braknar, 'i will'
[Thu Oct 22 20:03:43 2015] You told Braknar '[queued], this is so retarded'
[Thu Oct 22 20:04:06 2015] You told Braknar, 'this is straight up gestapo bullshit'
[Thu Oct 22 20:04:21 2015] Braknar tells you, 'You should stop now, i'm out of patience with you.' < o gawd its so hard being a nerd with power i just wanted to ebang wood elf sluts :(
[Thu Oct 22 20:04:36 2015] You told Braknar, 'big man'
[Thu Oct 22 20:04:44 2015] Thou hast been expelled by the gods!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G9kc0_PxmE

SamwiseRed

10-23-2015, 12:15 AM

noone is gonna read that shit.

Sadre Spinegnawer

10-23-2015, 12:27 AM

http://media.makeameme.org/created/plane-of-mischief.jpg

Braknar

10-23-2015, 12:30 AM

You seem mad.

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 12:40 AM

we really need to ask ourselves - "How many juicebox points is BDA giving Braknar? There's biased and then there's biased, you know?"

EQsale

10-23-2015, 12:49 AM

You seem mad.

This seems kinda unprofessional just saying :(

Braknar

10-23-2015, 12:55 AM

This seems kinda unprofessional just saying :(

Thanks for the opinion, I will cherish it always.

Tupakk

10-23-2015, 12:58 AM

Your Video is Pirvate, makes for a boring read without video :(

Kushie

10-23-2015, 01:11 AM

Inb4 ginger

Kushie

10-23-2015, 01:12 AM

also TL;DR?

Prismaticshop

10-23-2015, 01:14 AM

Chriskofer

10-23-2015, 01:18 AM

didnt read it but the obvious answer is because BDA = scum. l

Chriskofer

10-23-2015, 01:25 AM

its because BDA are fucking scum.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 01:25 AM

i agree, braknar has an extra chrome when it comes to simple logic or common sense

but then again i dont need to tell you, he shows it himself

in anything u see with brak is he a nice inviting person or a complete dick?

i rest my case

Verath

10-23-2015, 01:26 AM

Lmao, P99.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 01:27 AM

gotta agree

his posts/replies 100% professional

"you seem mad" only tells me this kid got no luv from his parents and no he bent with gm power lmao, cant wait for him to get a boot when someone with a right mind reads any of his replies and realizes not only is he unprofessional, he responds like a 15yr old who got his xbox taken away

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 01:29 AM

maybe we should take a community poll on braknar, i have a feeling it will be a landslide on turn n burn em

you know, besides his bias'd friends

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 01:34 AM

does Braknar have the BDA pixel sickness?

yikes

Jfertal

10-23-2015, 01:39 AM

[Thu Oct 22 19:58:37 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Triggers do not mean you get claim on anything'

Oh man Scout and rage fire going to be fun!

lol, I can't wait to see this pan out!

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 02:07 AM

you didnt know? braknar makes up his own rules on the fly if the real rules dont go in his favor

but i dont suggest doing ragefire because then it will be "triggers are claims!"

braknar logic, aka mental retardation at its finest

i take that back, that gives mental retardation a bad name

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 02:12 AM

cut it out & buzz off

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:13 AM

noone is gonna read that shit.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:22 AM

This seems kinda unprofessional just saying :(

Professionals get paid. You're also in RnF. Who are you? Why are you here?

Lisset

10-23-2015, 02:24 AM

braknar logic, aka mental retardation at its finest

i take that back, that gives mental retardation a bad name

In before banned and locked.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 02:29 AM

oh, let me just listen to this random guy on the internet

said nobody ever

@pokesan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:32 AM

Can we make involuntary transfers to Red99 a thing? Like a punishment a la the end of The One? You know, where he gets sent to the "Hades" prison world/dimension/thing.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:37 AM

Q9: What rules pertain to raid mobs that are triggered spawns? Either by turn in or the killing of another mob?
A: If a raid mob is triggered to spawn by killing a single mob before it (Example: Statue -> Idol -> Avatar of War), the guild/party that spawned the mob has 20 minutes to engage it. The mob is open to any other guild/party on a first to engage basis once the first guild/party either no longer has a presence, or the first guild/party has wiped, or the mob has reset after an engage, or has not been engaged within the 20 minute time limit. To clarify, one engage is defined as the mob getting aggro on one or more players from the raid, and then ending after that losing aggro/resetting when those players have been killed or forced to abandon the fight. Once a triggered spawn no longer has aggro on anyone, it can be killed by anyone.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

Why is this thread still not locked?

Neno

10-23-2015, 02:45 AM

You seem mad.

No shit, can you blame him?

You had no idea what was going on and just came in and made a ruling with little to no investigation. I know you are new around here but maybe take the time to investigate shit and your attitude in this thread is atrocious for a CSR. I'd love to know what your actual play experience on this server was before submitting that guide app because LOL at that trigger shit.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 02:51 AM

cant help but agree with neno

and ostros, if your so angered by this (or any) forum

you know you dont have to keep reading, or click on it to read anyway
seems like other peoples problems seems to be your get off lol, find a hobby buddy or make your own forum...dont join another and be like can we close this thread? instead, dont click on it

omg
problem solved

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:54 AM

Aww he thinks im mad. :D

Why does everyone make that assumption? :confused:

Stormfists

10-23-2015, 03:00 AM

I get Sirken favouritism with Rampage, makes some sort of sense them being premier and all.

But Braknar actively and clearly wanting to be in Chests pocket regardless of right or wrong shows a level of intellect identical to that of a spoon. There is a degree of retardation that has occurred here which has broken all previous records. Do IQs have a negative?

This isn't an insult. I'm genuinely concerned for Braknars mental wellbeing.

captnamazing

10-23-2015, 03:05 AM

Ostros

10-23-2015, 03:13 AM

Real talk, I actually read the thing and if your force camped for any reason you left your camp.

It's really niche and nitpicky, but you fucked up. Own up to it. The rules are posted in several places. The long form list that I looked through, quoted a few posts ago, and that everyone is bound by, is in Raid Discussion. Go read it.

If your other people hadn't camped, you would have been in the clear. Chest might be an asshole, but Braknar enforced the rules as-written.

Don't camp out next time.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 03:29 AM

In before banned and locked.

subaverage intellectual ability equivalent to or less than an IQ of 70 that is accompanied by significant deficits in abilities (as in communication or self-care) necessary for independent daily functioning, is usually present from birth or infancy, and is manifested especially by delayed or abnormal development, by learning difficulties, and by problems in social adjustment

dont be mad at me, be mad at the term

Ostros

10-23-2015, 03:33 AM

Yeah don't be mad at the shooter, be mad at the gun. We should ban them!

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 03:36 AM

this guy lol, ud think he is my boyfriend how much he is riding

legit must have no life besides eq LOL

Ostros

10-23-2015, 03:40 AM

Oh no you're little more than the choice playing of a bored fool who should have been asleep 2 hours ago. Again, please stop pretending you're important. You really aren't.

Speaking of bored: you're boring me. Can you do more of that fun stuff you were doing earlier?

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 03:46 AM

please link me where i said im special? or even insinuated i was?

never said i was important, nor do i care if i am....but i think someone here thinks he is super important and on the biggest assumption spree ive seen anyone go on

but i think you know who im talking about

think im done responding to the 6 yr old with the tin foil cap on, honestly idk what i was thinking...maybe that simple logic would stick or being able to hold a conversation? honestly not sure but w/e it was i was wrong lol

like all little kids, ill let you get the last word so you can get to bed on time =)

Ostros

10-23-2015, 03:55 AM

Oh please. I've already said no one is important here; just that you were the least of them.

I'm some idiot rambling on RnF because it's fun, and you're just the party favor for the night.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 03:58 AM

Oh please. I've already said no one is important here; just that you were the least of them.

I'm some idiot rambling on RnF because it's fun, and you're just the party favor for the night.

couldnt have said it better myself

good evade on linking where i thought i was special like u put what 4x now? are you becoming aware of your assumptions now!? no...cant be....youd have to not be....

NM!

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:00 AM

couldnt have said it better myself

good evade on linking where i thought i was special like u put what 4x now? are you becoming aware of your assumptions now!? no...cant be....youd have to not be....

NM!

Oh but you'll try anyway won't you, you little munchkin you? *pinches cheek*

Also why would I link, when you can just scroll up? Do your own homework.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:07 AM

try what?

holy shit its like talking to a 4 yr old

nowhere in this thread did i say or act like im special, you on the other hand

VERY special, seek help bro....from everything ive gather from you, you suffer from delusions...let me help you out

Delusional=Psychiatry. maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts, usually as a result of mental illness:

tldr=seek help

NegaStoat

10-23-2015, 04:08 AM

If your other people hadn't camped, you would have been in the clear. Chest might be an asshole, but Braknar enforced the rules as-written.

Don't camp out next time.

I read the whole thing and that's pretty much what I took away from this. The Guide made the right call. Plane of Mischief is hotly contested for numerous reasons, so logging 'real quick' and reducing your current force to below what the spawns would require while a rival team is watching you RIGHT THERE doing it was a retarded move.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:11 AM

Yerp. That's how it worked during Double XP. That's how it works in raid zones. That's how it works for eeeevveeery camp in the game. It's ruthless, but the lines are clearly drawn: it's not your camp if you can't hold it any more.

Best hold it.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:15 AM

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:16 AM

subaverage intellectual ability equivalent to or less than an IQ of 70 that is accompanied by significant deficits in abilities (as in communication or self-care) necessary for independent daily functioning, is usually present from birth or infancy, and is manifested especially by delayed or abnormal development, by learning difficulties, and by problems in social adjustment

dont be mad at me, be mad at the term

talking about braknar having problems with communication/learning difficulties/ problems in social adjustment

im not going to create a new term btw if there is one already......if i saw a fire, id call it a fire...etc, etc, i call em like i see em

replying with dont blame the shooter blame the gun is....retarded logic? aka if you walked in soaking wet and someone said you're soaked would you reply with the same comment? dont get how that makes any sense, i wasnt attacking him, but rather describing what i see but hey man sometimes the truth hurts....you should know =)

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:18 AM

Oh! He quoted himself instead of me. He's drunk. Thank god. For the life of me I could NOT figure out if this guy was literally the dumbest fuck in RnF ever, or just a really lazy troll.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:18 AM

btw if i were a puppet, not only would you have some form of control but rather 100% control

you control me 0%, sorry to break one of your delusions (the one thinking you have power over anything,esp me lol)

again man, seek help, thats a real sickness and i know you dont wanna belive it but...you should look into it all joking aside

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:20 AM

LOL i ment to quote myself

how u think i messed up idk, esp when i go into detail about what was quoted

delusions at their finest ladies and gentlemen

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:23 AM

Nevermind. He's retarded.

Seriously how do you not know how to use a forum? That's not how you use quote. Like, ever.

And yes you are a puppet, stupid. It's just a metaphor. Let's not go about pretending like I'm not playing with you like a toy.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:45 AM

lol im retarded cuz i quoted information from my previous post then elaborated on it?

i think your retarded lol

btw your getting owned by a dictionary, this will be like the 5th time

puppet=a person, party, or state under the control of another person, group, or power.

how exactly are you controlling me? by me willingly responding? such control much puppet master

a legit king in his own head /SMH

seek help for the delusions before you post, plz and ty

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:50 AM

No :3.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:51 AM

well your past the first step (denial)

the road to recovery begins!!!!

Ostros

10-23-2015, 04:53 AM

Excellent use of shitty grammar btw. Your consistency is amazing.

And I mean, no, I'm not going to seek help. I've told you before: I don't need it. Developing Alzheimer's?

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 04:58 AM

you do need help, and ive shown you why lol

refusing to belive facts...hmm that sounds like something ive said before...what was the term....

OH YA!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delusional

and btw, why do all kiddies instantly turn to grammar nazi's when proven wrong?

Ostros

10-23-2015, 05:00 AM

proven wrong?

Wrong about what?

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 05:04 AM

oh man, im losing brain cells talking to you, i just cant keep up with that level of derp

you, maam, are on a whole other level

Ostros

10-23-2015, 05:09 AM

you, maam, are on a whole other level

Fucking cherry on top. Bra-VO. I love it.

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 05:31 AM

Pint

10-23-2015, 05:54 AM

[Thu Oct 22 19:58:37 2015] Braknar tells you, 'Triggers do not mean you get claim on anything'

Oh man Scout and rage fire going to be fun!

lol, I can't wait to see this pan out!

"gm" makes uninformed ruling on something in game he knows little to nothing about then says something completely off the wall and contradictory to long standing server rules bc it backs up his ruling.. just another day in p99 ~

Messie

10-23-2015, 05:56 AM

Jinxy and Ostros, you're shitting up a quality thread, please take your love affair to PMs.

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 06:16 AM

? your like an hour late, we ended awhile ago

and 2nd, sure, ill shut up when u getrekt deal?

Messie

10-23-2015, 06:18 AM

? your like an hour late, we ended awhile ago

and 2nd, sure, ill shut up when u getrekt deal?

I was just looking at another thread and you two were at it in there too...it's spreading!!! :eek:

Bruno

10-23-2015, 06:38 AM

Nixxar claimed he had been killing puppets allllll day, he hadn't.
Nixxar didn't have the required force to actually kill said puppets.
Nixxar put another puppet in summon range to get my group killed as we engaged (and to be fair I did it back to him once)

Then Braknar showed up, made a ruling, and Nixxar lost his mind. Maybe you don't compare the staff to the gestapo?

Looks like he said they killed the last spawn, and provided logs, which is the only thing that matters. Saying he has been there all day isn't relevant. The only thing I read was they do the puppets regularly. You come in and spout as bunch of nonsense you just made up yourself and assumed to be true. Unfortunately, a GM ruled against them and in your favor. BDA used to be a reputable guild on this server. You guys are garbage now. This is coming from an outsider with no steak or friends on either side. I would have been annoyed had I been in Nixxars place, and so would anyone else including yourself.

Nextwave

10-23-2015, 07:09 AM

Why does the video not work..

Nextwave

10-23-2015, 07:10 AM

BDA used to be a reputable guild on this server. You guys are garbage now.

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 07:27 AM

Thank you for your concern anonymous RnF forum warriors. I'll make sure to take your opinions straight to our HR department where we can work on salvaging our ruined reputation.

Anyone else want to jump on the bandwagon? There's plenty of room alongside the random anonymous forum trolls, former TMO members (Forsaken falls into this category) former HK members, Asgard members, anyone that is mad about the class R rotation being dissolved, anyone that's mad about the class system itself (since apparently that's my fault too), anyone that has felt entitled to a camp when someone from BDA had said camp, or anyone for any reason at all. Make sure to list your reason for joining the bandwagon though, let's make sure we can identify your motives properly.

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 07:29 AM

Seems like GM made right ruling.

Dick move though. Look forward to end game here!!!!1!!1!1!11

ddxdy

10-23-2015, 07:54 AM

LostCause

10-23-2015, 07:56 AM

http://wiki.project1999.com/images/P99redlogo.png

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 08:03 AM

How do you play on a server engulfed in flames like that? Looks unsafe.

Monty405

10-23-2015, 08:10 AM

http://www.undertheradarmag.com/uploads/review_images/better-call-saul_review_under_the_Radar.jpg

maestrom

10-23-2015, 08:29 AM

Moral of the story: you can have a decent argument that a camp is yours, but none of that matters if you can't keep from being a giant asshole long enough to explain yourself.

Kowalski

10-23-2015, 08:51 AM

Oleris

10-23-2015, 08:57 AM

I've lost too many camps when my TWC DNS server went down for 1-2 minutes 5+ times a day causing me to LD. It's can be really shitty when you've been at the same spot for hours, but rules are rules.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 09:17 AM

Chest seems like a lonely individual . Likely 400 pounds and unemployed .

I mean the guy has Hulk Hogan avatar and quote. What a fat fucking loser.

http://gutbusterwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/stillrealtome.jpg

k2summit

10-23-2015, 10:01 AM

I read the whole thing. This type of shit is why i don't log in much anymore. Chest is a crybaby, its probably yer first run in with him. Get used to it.

Man0warr

10-23-2015, 10:05 AM

PoM is cutthroat for camps, but Nizzar is a Grade A toolbag so no one is going to cut him slack.

Nibblewitz

10-23-2015, 10:18 AM

I always see this Nixxar guy hanging out with some Taken and Asgard.

Makes sense.

Man0warr

10-23-2015, 10:23 AM

I said Nizzar and I meant Nixxar. Who the hell is Nizzar? Shrug

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 10:25 AM

I said Nizzar and I meant Nixxar. Who the hell is Nizzar? Shrug

Nizzar was a blight on red.

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 10:27 AM

the duke shall rise again 8)

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 10:33 AM

k2summit

10-23-2015, 10:34 AM

Moral of the story: you can have a decent argument that a camp is yours, but none of that matters if you can't keep from being a giant asshole long enough to explain yourself.

I didn't really think the OP was assholish at all. This is coming from a third party who doesnt care who wins or loses the argument. Strictly from a rules POV? I guess that's up for interpretation by the powers that be. But shit, the guy offered his logs that showed the duo partner logging over to another toon, and the scripted spawn was currently down and they were just waiting for respawn.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 10:43 AM

It shouldn't matter who's camp it was, or that one person logged out for TWO WHOLE MINUTES. He posted it here to show how much of a chode Chest is and how biased the GM was in his favor. No normal unbiased human being is going to award the camp to Chest after reading this conversation. I don't care what the "rules" state, its two fucking minutes, don't be a dick.

Braknar can SEE they killed the mobs previously, can SEE they had been keeping the camp clear (I mean, he can pull logs, he admitted it), and he can hopefully reason at a 1st grade level to understand his decision was completely wrong at this point.

If you kids acted like this in real life I wouldn't be surprised if you're missing a few teeth.

No time for real life when you think you're a pro wrestler and Everquest is what you eat shit and breathe.

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 10:44 AM

I didn't really think the OP was assholish at all.
Oh ok.
[Thu Oct 22 20:03:43 2015] You told Braknar '[queued], this is so retarded'
[Thu Oct 22 20:04:06 2015] You told Braknar, 'this is straight up gestapo bullshit'
[Thu Oct 22 20:04:36 2015] You told Braknar, 'big man'
Seems totally reasonable.

sirelothar

10-23-2015, 10:47 AM

I knew Chest was a bad influence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 10:48 AM

I didn't really think the OP was assholish at all. This is coming from a third party who doesnt care who wins or loses the argument. Strictly from a rules POV? I guess that's up for interpretation by the powers that be. But shit, the guy offered his logs that showed the duo partner logging over to another toon, and the scripted spawn was currently down and they were just waiting for respawn.

OP wasn't being a jerk at all, he was trying to let them know it was his camp. They tried to steal it and then he responded with some attitude (most people would). Fuck rule-lawyering assholes who try to abuse the system.

This is one of the reasons BDA has a bad name. Your guild leader is the biggest garbage dump of a human there is. If he has any say in who stays/gets the boot no wonder there's so much angst towards you. Not saying there aren't good people, because I've met a bunch, but I can't see how anyone would want to raid with him. I can only imagine how whiny and entitled he sounds on voice chat and cringe.

Stormfists

10-23-2015, 10:50 AM

Seems totally reasonable.

With every word you type, you look that little worse.

Gimp

10-23-2015, 10:58 AM

You seem mad.

It's fairly obvious that you had no idea how the puppet script worked and still decided to make a ruling, I'd be mad too if the "rule enforcers" didn't even know how the game works.

Nibblewitz

10-23-2015, 11:00 AM

I remember a time when Asgard tried to steal our Tranix Camp, but Braknar came in to save the day from those scumbags.

Pras Braknar!

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 11:04 AM

It's fairly obvious that you had no idea how the puppet script worked and still decided to make a ruling, I'd be mad too if the "rule enforcers" didn't even know how the game works.

Even if he had no understanding of the script, his ruling was still wrong on every level of human decency. I could have chalked it up to he had a bad night, maybe was drinking, but the reply back to this thread says he obviously doesn't give a shit and thinks his decision was right.

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 11:04 AM

I remember a time when Asgard tried to steal our Tranix Camp, but Braknar came in to save the day from those scumbags.

Pras Braknar!

Chest gave him a call.

Gimp

10-23-2015, 11:07 AM

RIP Moregan, the only good guide this server ever had.

Capi

10-23-2015, 11:08 AM

This is me caring

Gimp

10-23-2015, 11:11 AM

Hell, the only reason chest even started up this shit in the first place is that Niz is old TMO, and he will mever, ever let go of that vendetta.

Glad I can just stick to forumquesting these days, lawyerquest looks miserable

Gimp

10-23-2015, 11:11 AM

Nix*

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 11:12 AM

you know us, always lawyering for pixels /eyeroll

:)

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 11:12 AM

RIP Moregan, the only good guide this server ever had.

He was a good guide until he got off his meds, then he tried to expose corruption that didn't exist. Honestly, and it pains me to say this, Sirken has been the best GM/Guide the server has had (not counting the devs, we're talking boots on the ground enforcers only) He's persisted, he hasn't had any RMT scandals, and seems to actually care (usually)

Valse

10-23-2015, 11:13 AM

his ruling was still wrong on every level of human decency.

Human decency has no place in the law. The ruling was fine and correct according to the rules we abide by. No kill force == no camp. Don't log out next time.

Nibblewitz

10-23-2015, 11:16 AM

Now he's got Braknar and Sirken in his pocket. Watch out!

Ostros

10-23-2015, 11:18 AM

It shouldn't matter who's camp it was, or that one person logged out for TWO WHOLE MINUTES. He posted it here to show how much of a chode Chest is and how biased the GM was in his favor. No normal unbiased human being is going to award the camp to Chest after reading this conversation. I don't care what the "rules" state, its two fucking minutes, don't be a dick.

Braknar can SEE they killed the mobs previously, can SEE they had been keeping the camp clear (I mean, he can pull logs, he admitted it), and he can hopefully reason at a 1st grade level to understand his decision was completely wrong at this point.

If you kids acted like this in real life I wouldn't be surprised if you're missing a few teeth.

Them's the rules. Plain as day. Written up in the appropriate forum. If you're duoing a camp, and one of your people logs, you've forfeited the camp. I don't know how much clearer this can be made.

Seeing that the mobs were killed and the camp had been kept clear is irrelevant. It would BE relevant if the other guy hadn't logged. But the other guy logged.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 11:21 AM

Jinxy and Ostros, you're shitting up a quality thread, please take your love affair to PMs.

There are no quality threads in RnF. That's why they get moved to/made in RnF: so they can die like they deserve. Torn apart by bored neckbeards like a horde of zombies.

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 11:23 AM

Nixxar claimed he had been killing puppets allllll day, he hadn't.
Nixxar didn't have the required force to actually kill said puppets.
Nixxar put another puppet in summon range to get my group killed as we engaged (and to be fair I did it back to him once)

Then Braknar showed up, made a ruling, and Nixxar lost his mind. Maybe you don't compare the staff to the gestapo?

If his 2 people wasn't a "required force" you should have let him pull and die, then this would have all been moot (and you would have had nothing to lose, and gained a few laughs). Obviously you were worried enough about these 2 people killing them that you had to rush to try and KS, then ended up training your own guild. Instead you chose to be a douche canoe.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 11:26 AM

Who the fuck can solo PoM other than the entrance? Why make the poor bastard die for his clear misunderstanding of the rules?

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 11:26 AM

His insufficient force was a chanter/monk duo, then just a monk solo. Only after puppets started spawning did his "sufficient force" show up.

Rararboker

10-23-2015, 11:27 AM

Isnt Nixxar the guy who always has a ton of throne and crown PoM cards for sale? Would kind of insinuate he actually can duo these camps.

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 11:28 AM

Who the fuck can solo PoM other than the entrance? Why make the poor bastard die for his clear misunderstanding of the rules?

Shamans can solo anything in the zone aside from puppets and some of the other ass beater high level stuff like stomples or that 3 day quest horse/unicorn fuck. Although, I'm sure with enough luck, clickies, and patience a shaman might be able to get some of that stuff solo too.

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 11:32 AM

Them's the rules. Plain as day. Written up in the appropriate forum. If you're duoing a camp, and one of your people logs, you've forfeited the camp. I don't know how much clearer this can be made.

Seeing that the mobs were killed and the camp had been kept clear is irrelevant. It would BE relevant if the other guy hadn't logged. But the other guy logged.

Which is why I never challenged the validity of said posted rule. This is human etiquette 101. I can understand if it was an extended period of time, but 2 minutes is faster than if someone had gone LD. Chest was gonna take the camp regardless, the logout / back onto another character was just dumb luck on his part that he could lawyer it.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 11:33 AM

Which is why I never challenged the validity of said posted rule. This is human etiquette 101. I can understand if it was an extended period of time, but 2 minutes is faster than if someone had gone LD. Chest was gonna take the camp regardless, the logout / back onto another character was just dumb luck on his part that he could lawyer it.

That's an awfully convenient explanation. I'm not sure I buy it.

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 11:37 AM

His insufficient force was a chanter/monk duo, then just a monk solo. Only after puppets started spawning did his "sufficient force" show up.

He had just killed the two named and was relogging as mobs spawned...... you can see from the logs.... Again, you may be right if you wanna be a scummy rule lawyer, but you know he could have killed them, and he would have killed them in plenty of time before respawns.

No one is arguing that your rule lawyering is insufficient. You got lucky that he logged off to get on another character that you could steal his camp.

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 11:38 AM

Which is why I never challenged the validity of said posted rule. This is human etiquette 101. I can understand if it was an extended period of time, but 2 minutes is faster than if someone had gone LD. Chest was gonna take the camp regardless, the logout / back onto another character was just dumb luck on his part that he could lawyer it.

Lesson Learned #1 - Chest has no soul and will use any out to fuck you over
Lesson Learned #2 - Don't give Chest an out

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 11:38 AM

That's an awfully convenient explanation. I'm not sure I buy it.

The fact he rule lawyered a 2 minute re-log is all the proof any decent human being needs.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 11:52 AM

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7530/wrestingisnotgay.jpg

Ostros

10-23-2015, 11:52 AM

The fact he rule lawyered a 2 minute re-log is all the proof any decent human being needs.

I don't buy appealing to morality in this case either. If the situation were reversed, I'd be on OPs side. Has nothing to do with being kind, and I think it's disingenuous to attack someone's RL character over pixels. I doesn't feel great to get your camp yoinked, but it was "legal".

It's pretty harsh, but the guides wouldn't be able to mediate every little spat if the rules weren't clearly defined.

Besides, apparently OP is in there a ton? Give someone else a shot at the camp.

Can we at least agree this is pretty ridiculous regardless of who was within the rules? So much shade being thrown at Braknar, Chest, AND Op.

Just camp and go outside gusy.

maskedmelon

10-23-2015, 11:56 AM

talking about braknar having problems with communication/...problems in social adjustment

Irony. OP established self as a jackass in logs purporting to vindicate his behavior. Had you approached the other players or guide with something other than churlishness, this entire thing could have and I'd suspect very likely would have turned out entirely differently. At the very least the ban would not have been issued. A couple rules of success:

1. Don't make enemies
2. Don't pick fights you can't win

A little common courtesy goes a LONG way.

Sweettouch

10-23-2015, 12:07 PM

You all need a break from your computers.

trinkets

10-23-2015, 12:17 PM

Shoneys you were right in essence, but it was definitely handled poorly. Chest comes off as someone just looking for a reason to start shit and you gave him one.

JackFlash

10-23-2015, 12:28 PM

BDA plays by the rules and looks for any loophole. Playing nice and being courteous members of the community is not their game.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 12:35 PM

BDA plays by the rules and looks for any loophole. Playing nice and being courteous members of the community is not their game.

Yeah we should ignore the rules and try to be courteous. Like OP.

Fountree

10-23-2015, 12:36 PM

JackFlash

10-23-2015, 12:40 PM

Yeah we should ignore the rules and try to be courteous. Like OP.

This is why the general attitude of this server sucks, including mine. If you can't beat em, join em.

Tupakk

10-23-2015, 12:41 PM

Well that was a fun read since last night. Still no video?

Gulliver

10-23-2015, 12:43 PM

didnt get to uploading it last night.

Chest being bad at everquest. skip to 4:20ish (https://youtu.be/Sn1JXZQ_MiI)

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 12:45 PM

Is the part where you get the Tunare puppet into summoning range to kill my group in there too or did you feel the need to exclude that portion?

Fuddwin

10-23-2015, 12:47 PM

Poor Chest (Variety)

rebeccablack

10-23-2015, 12:53 PM

how about we not run this guide off the server with bullshit like we did the last couple, yeah?

Emjaye

10-23-2015, 12:57 PM

Isnt Nixxar the guy who always has a ton of throne and crown PoM cards for sale? Would kind of insinuate he actually can duo these camps.

The last time I saw Nixxar "duo" something he was abusing the fuck out of an IP exemption. In fact I definitely have the fraps of him "duoing" the Kromzek captain after he won the Scout turn in. He had 2 clients at char select and kept bouncing back between a monk and a cleric (with 0 delay) between soulfire charges. There were only 2 people but they had streamlined a system to exploit the use of 4 characters, clearly it was something they had done before and I would wager any price that he continues to do it.

His plight was sympathetic, kind of like a stray dog eating out of a garbage bin...so I never snitched despite holding video evidence of what I can only assume is a bannable offense.

Oleris

10-23-2015, 12:58 PM

solid day for RNF.

Gulliver

10-23-2015, 01:02 PM

i agree, we shouldn't. being a reasonable person, when i come upon a camp that i want but there is already someone there, i move on. but then you have people who think just because im bad and need 4+ to do certain content it must be impossible for 2 people to do it therefore its not actually camped, then steal the camp like an asshole. then when things dont go my way ill call in the GM's. BECAUSE I RUN A GUILD. I WANT THE PIXELS NOW. FREE FOR ME HAND THEM TO ME.

and no i didnt have fraps going or i'd post the video for you to learn a trick or two.

Sajan

10-23-2015, 01:14 PM

BDA used to be a reputable guild on this server. You guys are garbage now.

Loke

10-23-2015, 01:14 PM

Gotta be a real shit head to rule lawyer over someone switching characters... so sounds pretty standard for Chest. Glad to see BDA is still raiding the petition queue to get their loot. Always the victim.

slappytwotoes

10-23-2015, 01:16 PM

Poor Chest (Variety)

Ugh fuckin this guy. Look at his post history! Post after post of just this fuckin joke for over a year. Get a new line loser

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 01:16 PM

Sounds like some revisionist history if BDA is the supposed premiere petitionquest guild in the history of p99

Loke

10-23-2015, 01:32 PM

You petitioned (in the broader sense of the word) for an entire protected class of welfare pixels. That is the lawyer quest equivalent of having Roe v. Wade repealed. Not quite the same as the ambulance chaser cases FE/IB/TMO were bringing. Don't sell yourself short Chest, when it comes to crying to GMs youre the king.

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 01:32 PM

Sounds like some revisionist history if BDA is the supposed premiere petitionquest guild in the history of p99

Take a step back and realize what you did...

Dudes are duoing (successfully) content you wanted. One dude logs out for 2 minutes and comes back in...about the same time it takes to make a trip to the John.

You call a guide in so you can take the camp over because of it.

That is Grade A douchebaggery. Legal, but holy fuck is it bad form.

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 01:35 PM

watch the video for BDA wiping to content a shaman can solo :)

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 01:43 PM

watch the video for BDA wiping to content a shaman can solo :)

Technically, BDA showed their inability to hold the camp and should have relinquished it back to the now "kill force" strength of the duo they took it from...

k2summit

10-23-2015, 01:48 PM

Oh ok.

Seems totally reasonable.

Cherrypicking bro. Not gonna go through it again. OP was totally reasonable, and you know it. Thats why you cherrypicked that one tiny snippet. I guess this behavior is why people dont like you.

Kushie

10-23-2015, 01:53 PM

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/25626284.jpg

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 01:57 PM

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 02:01 PM

Technically, BDA showed their inability to hold the camp and should have relinquished it back to the now "kill force" strength of the duo they took it from...
Technically you're incredibly dumb. This is equivalent to training a camp to wipe them then claiming they can't handle the camp so they should give it up. Only reason BDA "wiped" is cause Nixxar took a permarooted mob into summoning range then FD'd so the healers got chain summoned til they died. Basically the same thing as training and he probably deserved a suspension if only for this reason. Let alone mouthing off to the staff like a child when things didn't go his way.

In other news this thread is excellent. Some of my favorite parts include Nixxar saying "Fraps'd Homey" on video after Chest got his shaman killed AFTER Nixxar did the exact same thing and got 2 people (myself included) killed. I don't know why everyone is so rustled over this. The rules are VERY clear if mobs are up and you don't have a presence to kill them you forfeit the camp. It's very black and white. You can disagree with the rules if you want but that's what they are.

If a raid mob is triggered to spawn by killing a single mob before it (Example: Statue -> Idol -> Avatar of War), the guild/party that spawned the mob has 20 minutes to engage it. The mob is open to any other guild/party on a first to engage basis once the first guild/party either no longer has a presence, or the first guild/party has wiped, or the mob has reset after an engage, or has not been engaged within the 20 minute time limit. To clarify, one engage is defined as the mob getting aggro on one or more players from the raid, and then ending after that losing aggro/resetting when those players have been killed or forced to abandon the fight. Once a triggered spawn no longer has aggro on anyone, it can be killed by anyone.

Granted this specifies raid mobs but it's the only ruling regarding triggered spawns that we have I think. Regular camp rules clearly state that if you don't have a presence to kill the mobs you can't hold the camp so either way Nixxar had no grounds to claim the camp. If memory serves the puppets had started spawning before the enchanter even logged out. We had a full force ready to go the second the puppets showed up. First puppet was at like 30% (they have a decent chunk of HP) before the shaman showed up and slowed the mob so Nixxar could begin wiping us.

MRW Braknar showed up to serve sweet sweet justice
http://replygif.net/i/345.gif

Man0warr

10-23-2015, 02:02 PM

All i gathered from this thread is more evidence Nixxar is one of the biggest tools on the server and greedy scumbag fuck. Just like most of the players hanging in mischief these days, how do these retards even figure out how to get into the zone?

They did it after the last patch when all mobs aggro was broken and you could run right past everything.

It was funny because those same people were calling out Rampage/Taken/BDA/etc for killing raid mobs who were broken (even though they were all mobs those guilds could kill easily) meanwhile they are hauling ass to PoM, which they couldn't get to otherwise.

Seltius

10-23-2015, 02:04 PM

Come play on R99 where if someone like Chest pulled that and they would get their face pushed in and the GMs would just ignore the petitions. Every respawn is an adventure!

You have choices of a few guilds and there isn't a line for pixel welfare.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 02:05 PM

They did it after the last patch when all mobs aggro was broken and you could run right past everything.

It was funny because those same people were calling out Rampage/Taken/BDA/etc for killing raid mobs who were broken (even though they were all mobs those guilds could kill easily) meanwhile they are hauling ass to PoM, which they couldn't get to otherwise.
So much this. I wish they would've done rollbacks for that patch. Bunch of scrubs in PoM that never should've been able to get there.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 02:06 PM

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 02:08 PM

So empire is killing whatever they want obviously, what are the lessor guilds killing to arm themselves in the fight against Empire tyranny?

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 02:10 PM

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 02:12 PM

Log posted has Vasec saying "that's Chest griefing you btw".
Chest did it in retaliation. Nixxar initiated it. This has been said many times.

Spyder73

10-23-2015, 02:14 PM

OP is an @sshole for constantly camping PoM and monopolizing the spawn.

BDA crew are @ssholes for horning in on a camp that was taken (and about 100 other things)

All parties involved should be permanently banned from the server IMO

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 02:14 PM

Chest did it in retaliation. Nixxar initiated it. This has been said many times.

so Chest should also be banned?

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 02:14 PM

Chest did it in retaliation. Nixxar initiated it. This has been said many times.

Ok, so now you're saying Nixxar didn't "train" BDA, but instead Chest "trained" the mobs to both BDA and Nixxar in retaliation.

Which is it?

Llodd

10-23-2015, 02:16 PM

Which makes it right how exactly?

When a GL can't show restraint then there's something wrong.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 02:17 PM

Ok, so now you're saying Nixxar didn't "train" BDA, but instead Chest "trained" the mobs to both BDA and Nixxar in retaliation.

Which is it?Nixxar intentionally wiped our group and Chest retaliated. Nixxar's justification was "they're stealin muh campz!" which the rules state was not his camp anymore and Chest's was "He intentionally killed my entire group"

Apples and Oranges imo

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 02:18 PM

Camp dispute, nixxar gets my healers killed, I get his shaman killed, then we stare each other until Braknar shows up - that's the order of events

Nixxar got suspended for going crazy at the end though. You can't compare the staff member to the gestapo. That's never a good idea.

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 02:20 PM

Nixxar intentionally wiped our group and Chest retaliated. Nixxar's justification was "they're stealin muh campz!" which the rules state was not his camp anymore and Chest's was "He intentionally killed my entire group"

Apples and Oranges imo

Ok thanks for confirming what I originally wrote-

BDA showed their inability (or I guess lack of self-control??) to hold the camp, and should have given it back to the duo that was now in position to take the camp. I can lawyer too.

THE DEFENSE RESTS!!!!

Juevento

10-23-2015, 02:22 PM

Thana8088

10-23-2015, 02:22 PM

The real Nachtigall would never have participated in this shit show.

So sad.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 02:25 PM

Ok thanks for confirming what I originally wrote-

BDA showed their inability (or I guess lack of self-control??) to hold the camp, and should have given it back to the duo that was now in position to take the camp. I can lawyer too.

THE DEFENSE RESTS!!!!
I don't know how you passed the bar. The duo was in no position to take the camp. Initially it was monk/enc and the enc logged over to a shm but as was stated puppets were already up before he switched so he didn't have force. The only time Nixxar would've had force when we didn't is after he intentionally wiped us. If you think you can intentionally wipe a group then take their camp cause they don't have force anymore you're pretty special. Unless you mean when Chest killed the other shaman? In that case they didn't have force either cause the shaman was dead.

Derp?

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 02:26 PM

You must be a very young lawyer.

If the gloves don't fit you must acquit.

Moral of the story - Don't train people. But if you must, don't ever fucking admit it.

maskedmelon

10-23-2015, 02:37 PM

Moral of the story - Don't train people. But if you must, don't ever fucking admit it.

Such character.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:38 PM

Technically, BDA showed their inability to hold the camp and should have relinquished it back to the now "kill force" strength of the duo they took it from...

HAH. I agree with this also, as it's technically in the rules. This is the greatest thread.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 02:39 PM

Plackers

10-23-2015, 02:46 PM

Technically you're incredibly dumb. This is equivalent to training a camp to wipe them then claiming they can't handle the camp so they should give it up. Only reason BDA "wiped" is cause Nixxar took a permarooted mob into summoning range then FD'd so the healers got chain summoned til they died. Basically the same thing as training and he probably deserved a suspension if only for this reason. Let alone mouthing off to the staff like a child when things didn't go his way.

In other news this thread is excellent. Some of my favorite parts include Nixxar saying "Fraps'd Homey" on video after Chest got his shaman killed AFTER Nixxar did the exact same thing and got 2 people (myself included) killed. I don't know why everyone is so rustled over this. The rules are VERY clear if mobs are up and you don't have a presence to kill them you forfeit the camp. It's very black and white. You can disagree with the rules if you want but that's what they are.

Granted this specifies raid mobs but it's the only ruling regarding triggered spawns that we have I think. Regular camp rules clearly state that if you don't have a presence to kill the mobs you can't hold the camp so either way Nixxar had no grounds to claim the camp. If memory serves the puppets had started spawning before the enchanter even logged out. We had a full force ready to go the second the puppets showed up. First puppet was at like 30% (they have a decent chunk of HP) before the shaman showed up and slowed the mob so Nixxar could begin wiping us.

MRW Braknar showed up to serve sweet sweet justice
http://replygif.net/i/345.gif

You are trying to lawyer a duo camp with raid rules. It really shouldn't have even came to that but I guess when you're an autistic fuck tard pixels take over the brain.

maestrom

10-23-2015, 02:55 PM

Both of these guys admitted to intentionally training.

Why aren't both sitting on a suspension?

Champion_Standing

10-23-2015, 02:56 PM

Both of these guys admitted to intentionally training.

Why aren't both sitting on a suspension?

This is actually a good question. Why aren't both trainers suspended for breaking the rules?

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 02:58 PM

braknar needs his juice boxes

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 03:03 PM

You are trying to lawyer a duo camp with raid rules. It really shouldn't have even came to that but I guess when you're an autistic fuck tard pixels take over the brain.

^^ Who the fuck rule lawyers raid rules on a camp that can be duo'd. You knew he was doing the camp, you knew mobs were currently dead that were supposed to be there. Common decency says to move along. It's not just chest, his whole group participated. Anyone there coulda said hey, Chest, stop being a tiny dicked meathead.

It's been mentioned that the mobs "started to spawn before the enchanter completely relogged". That just implies you knew you were being dicks and were going to rule lawyer. Whether you're technically, by the rules, able to take the mobs isn't the question.

TL:DR

Chest = young lawyer scum

Spyder73

10-23-2015, 03:03 PM

braknar needs his juice boxes

Braknar is busy ruining my life with name griefing to do anything else

Ostros

10-23-2015, 03:06 PM

^^ Who the fuck rule lawyers raid rules on a camp that can be duo'd. You knew he was doing the camp, you knew mobs were currently dead that were supposed to be there. Common decency says to move along. It's not just chest, his whole group participated. Anyone there coulda said hey, Chest, stop being a tiny dicked meathead.

It's been mentioned that the mobs "started to spawn before the enchanter completely relogged". That just implies you knew you were being dicks and were going to rule lawyer. Whether you're technically, by the rules, able to take the mobs isn't the question.

TL:DR

Chest = young lawyer scum

Because in the absence of raid engagement rules, literally every camp is FTE, cut and dry.

PoM is a plane, technically a raid zone if you wanna engage in semantics. In both versions of the rules, OP doesn't win.

There's no winning here. Not even lawyering. That's just how it works. Know your rules.

Valse

10-23-2015, 03:08 PM

Log posted has Vasec saying "that's Chest griefing you btw".

I bleieve it actually says:
[Thu Oct 22 19:00:11 2015] You told Vasec, 'thats chest grieifng you btw'

Thats nixxar telling vasec that. .not vasec telling nixxar. Get yer voices straight.

dafier

10-23-2015, 03:09 PM

OP: The way I read it, you break more rules than you should.

Sirken's post/rules:

This may be Rants and Flames, But it is not a "Do whatever the hell you want' forum.

Incomplete List of Things you are NOT allowed to do here:

You may under NO CIRCUMSTANCES at any time:

1. Attack or talk shit about the staff. IF you wanna participate in that then I suggest you do it in a forum where I am not a moderator.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 03:13 PM

You are trying to lawyer a duo camp with raid rules. It really shouldn't have even came to that but I guess when you're an autistic fuck tard pixels take over the brain.

^^ Who the fuck rule lawyers raid rules on a camp that can be duo'd.

You are both dumb. If either of you had read my post you'd see where I said

Granted this specifies raid mobs but it's the only ruling regarding triggered spawns that we have I think. Regular camp rules clearly state that if you don't have a presence to kill the mobs you can't hold the camp so either way Nixxar had no grounds to claim the camp.

No matter which way you wanna spin it Nixxar didn't have claim to the camp according to the rules. You realize Nixxar was insistent that it follow the "Trigger mob" 20 minute rule which is specific to raid mobs right? He was trying to bullshit his way into winning the camp by claiming he should've had 20 mins to engage cause it was a triggered event. That 20 min triggered mob rule is the same one that is only specific to raid targets. REGARDLESS of that though. Whether you wanna look at the trigger rule for raid mobs or the generic camp rules the correct ruling was made. If you don't have a kill force ready at ANY CAMP IN THE GAME you forfeit that camp if another kill force is sitting there contesting.

zanderklocke

10-23-2015, 03:18 PM

ddxdy

10-23-2015, 03:22 PM

Someone needs to write a dissertation on online communities and how greed affects individuals to act in ways they would not in real life when anonymity is involved. There would be some great qualitative and quantitative data from this site and the secret societies of guilds, guild forums, IRC channels, youtube videos, and rule debating websites that have emerged.

Toss in some psychology of anonymous drivers on the road and you could write a book.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 03:23 PM

Someone needs to write a dissertation on online communities and how greed affects individuals to act in ways they would not in real life when anonymity is involved. There would be some great qualitative and quantitative data from this site and the secret societies of guilds, guild forums, IRC channels, youtube videos, and rule debating websites that have emerged.

This game truly creates some sad individuals. For some reason this game attracts mostly autistic, drug addicts, or people with mental retardation. I'm not sure if it's the game is fairly simple due to it being 16 years old or what.

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 03:24 PM

zanderklocke

10-23-2015, 03:26 PM

This game truly creates some sad individuals. For some reason this game attracts mostly autistic, drug addicts, or people with mental retardation. I'm not sure if it's the game is fairly simple due to it being 16 years old or what.

I think it's the finite resources available in the game. I can't think of another game that causes players to step on top of each other the same way. Having instances in games eliminates terrible erratic behaviors of people who need items to satiate the addiction qualities of a MMO.

I mean shoot, people spend hundreds of dollars on websites to that addiction feeling taken away.

The game isn't fun anymore when you have every item in the game. There's a reason god-mode servers aren't very fun. The addiction is what keeps people there.

zanderklocke

10-23-2015, 03:27 PM

I think it's the finite resources available in the game. I can't think of another game that causes players to step on top of each other the same way. Having instances in games eliminates terrible erratic behaviors of people who need items to satiate the addiction qualities of a MMO.

I mean shoot, people spend hundreds of dollars on websites to get that addiction feeling taken away.

The game isn't fun anymore when you have every item in the game. There's a reason god-mode servers aren't very fun. The addiction is what keeps people there.

arsenalpow

10-23-2015, 03:33 PM

Is that considered a train? The mobs are all perma rooted.

Spenny121

10-23-2015, 03:43 PM

Because in the absence of raid engagement rules, literally every camp is FTE, cut and dry.

PoM is a plane, technically a raid zone if you wanna engage in semantics. In both versions of the rules, OP doesn't win.

There's no winning here. Not even lawyering. That's just how it works. Know your rules.

I'm done arguing. I think one of your last posts summed it up. Neither party is a winner in this situation. I still think Chest and co were huge dickheads for moving in on a camp they knew was already taken, regardless if someone was relogging.

Ostros

10-23-2015, 03:47 PM

I'm done arguing. I think one of your last posts summed it up. Neither party is a winner in this situation. I still think Chest and co were huge dickheads for moving in on a camp they knew was already taken, regardless if someone was relogging.

Yeah, that's more or less how I feel. The rules should change a bit. FTE leads to too much of this shit. FIF is better in every way.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 04:11 PM

Yeah, he did- lets go through the major events, and describe who should have rights to the camp, shall we?

1 - Nixxar and friend duo and clear dudes happily
Camp belongs to - Nixxar

2 - BDA and friends show up and contest the camp. Nixxar allegedly trains BDA
Camp belongs to Nixxar, unless Nixxar trained BDA...in which case BDA should get it (still kinda a stretch though, they had been killing them for a long while with no issues, but I'll put this on the table)

3 - Nixxars friend logs out and quickly logs back in
Camp belongs to BDA, congratulations!!!! You did it!!!! You now have the camp to yourselves!

4 - BDA pulls a fucking train (INTENTIONALLY, mind you) to Nixxar/friend and BDA. BDA wipes.
Camp now belongs to Nixxar and friend again because BDA wiped.

Again, don't train. Nobody wins.
Understandable since you weren't there. But you don't have your facts straight. BDA showed up to contest a camp that had a single monk sitting at it (Who obviously can't solo it) then an enchanter showed up. Monk/Enc can't duo it. Puppets started spawning and we started killing them. Enc logged out and Shaman logged in a few min later. At this point Shaman slowed a mob we weren't fighting and Nixxar got it into summoning range while the Shaman logged out and Nixxar FD'd to make the mob summon BDA healers repeatedly til they died (His intention)

BDA rezzed up and Nixxar/Shaman were fighting puppets when Chest did the same thing back to them in retaliation. At no point did Nixxar have legal claim to the camp from the point BDA showed up til the point Braknar showed up and confirmed he was in the wrong. Braknar has access to the logs and made a ruling that follows the rules that P99 has established for these type of situations. If you're mad about the rules that's fine. I certainly don't agree with all the rules on P99. But as the kids say "Don't hate the player hate the game"

Loke

10-23-2015, 04:17 PM

These are the same people who used the 20 minute rule to steal Xenovorash from another monk who triggered it. It really is par for the course as far BDA is concerned. If BDA hadnt been hovering around the camp waiting for an opportunity to play rule lawyer this entire situation would have been avoided, but I guess the allure of those PoM pixels is more important than not being dickheads.

dafier

10-23-2015, 04:22 PM

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 04:40 PM

Understandable since you weren't there. But you don't have your facts straight. BDA showed up to contest a camp that had a single monk sitting at it (Who obviously can't solo it) then an enchanter showed up. Monk/Enc can't duo it. Puppets started spawning and we started killing them. Enc logged out and Shaman logged in a few min later. At this point Shaman slowed a mob we weren't fighting and Nixxar got it into summoning range while the Shaman logged out and Nixxar FD'd to make the mob summon BDA healers repeatedly til they died (His intention)

BDA rezzed up and Nixxar/Shaman were fighting puppets when Chest did the same thing back to them in retaliation. At no point did Nixxar have legal claim to the camp from the point BDA showed up til the point Braknar showed up and confirmed he was in the wrong. Braknar has access to the logs and made a ruling that follows the rules that P99 has established for these type of situations. If you're mad about the rules that's fine. I certainly don't agree with all the rules on P99. But as the kids say "Don't hate the player hate the game"

All you need to know is Nixxar+friend were present when Chest intentionally trained everyone, causing a BDA wipe.

Shoulda been Nixxars camp.

Enjoy your ruling. You "earned" it.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 04:47 PM

All you need to know is Nixxar+friend were present when Chest intentionally trained everyone, causing a BDA wipe.

Shoulda been Nixxars camp.

Enjoy your ruling. You "earned" it.

Holy shit how many times does this have to be explained. Nixxar + Friend were present when Chest did the same thing Nixxar did yes. After that happened BDA as well as Nixxar's friend were both dead. The only remaining people at the camp was Nixxar and Chest since they can FD and everyone else was on the aggro list and got summoned/killed. Everyone was present for Nixxar's wipe and everyone was present for Chest's wipe until they all died except the monks. The time Nixxar did it his shaman camped out before he FD'd but I think we can agree training the other group doesn't mean you win the camp. Explain to me how this means Nixxar should get camp? It seems you're under the assumption that Chest killed the BDA group and Nixxar/Shaman both lived. This is not the case.

Loke

10-23-2015, 04:53 PM

Apparently, per the Server Guide that's not the case. :) Reading comprehension, it's not new. You should have learned that in Grammar school.

Remember that time you were trying to be smug about using a rule technicality to be a scumbag? I mean, you were almost gloating about it. God, wasnt that embarrassing for you? BDA should probably make you an officer or something.

iruinedyourday

10-23-2015, 04:57 PM

[Thu Oct 22 18:51:24 2015] Vasec tells you, 'you just greifed me from my point of view .. thats all im responding and talking about here'

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6wl0kHuTz1r7nc50.gif

hehe

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 05:01 PM

dafier

10-23-2015, 05:05 PM

Remember that time you were trying to be smug about using a rule technicality to be a scumbag? I mean, you were almost gloating about it. God, wasnt that embarrassing for you? BDA should probably make you an officer or something.

Smug? No, don't recall. Scumbag? Nope, I don't recall that either. Embarrassing? Humm....no.

Officer? Interesting idea.

What is the actual purpose of your response?

iruinedyourday

10-23-2015, 05:06 PM

I have to say a GM siding with Chest is a sign that blue is a shitty server to play video games on kek

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 05:07 PM

You wanted to rule lawyer, I'm rule lawyering.

I said if Nixxar trained you intentionally, should have been your camp.

I've also said that BDA owned the camp 100% when Chest decided it would be a fun adventure to train everyone.

Again. BDA had every right to the camp when Chest decided to train. Got it? Ok. Remember, it's your camp right now.

That amazing decision by your fearless leader to train everyone wiped BDA. Now that the Shaman/Monk were present and contesting the camp. Since BDA trained, they demonstrated their inability to hold the camp. These rules are very clear. What was once yours, should now belong back to Nixxar and friend.

You're asking for the difference between the Nixxar train and the Chest train? The order in which it happened.
Great we've established it was our camp at that time. Perfect. Maybe you weren't aware that when Chest decided to do that Nixxar and friend were actively attempting to kill mobs in OUR camp. Afterwards Chest and Nixxar were the only ones standing and bda/nixxar friend returned at basically exactly the same time after death. So.... Camp should've gone to Nixxar cause he attempted to steal our mobs and got trained? Trying to understand this flawless logic but its really hard guys.

qualia

10-23-2015, 05:10 PM

all i want to say; the best part of this whole thing was when chest tried to FD agro on me but ended up wiping his own group (i dont think any of them really knew what was goin on, sorry about that). that could be the funniest thing i've seen in EQ in a looooong time. thanks for the laugh ol boy. ill never forget it ;)

i don't grief and ive never intentionally trained anyone. id rather not come across like that, but ive never had a situation like this happen. regardless of all the rules and eqlaw; first and foremost, plain and simple: use some common decency... it aint hard to get along folks. you know what youre doin and i know that you know, you know?

anyway. does anyone have a blue throne to trade so i can take a break from PoM for a while. i have shaman dolls, a druid doll, all the other cards x2 to trade...

qualia

JboxCSU

10-23-2015, 05:13 PM

Great we've established it was our camp at that time. Perfect. Maybe you weren't aware that when Chest decided to do that Nixxar and friend were actively attempting to kill mobs in OUR camp. Afterwards Chest and Nixxar were the only ones standing and bda/nixxar friend returned at basically exactly the same time after death. So.... Camp should've gone to Nixxar cause he attempted to steal our mobs and got trained? Trying to understand this flawless logic but its really hard guys.

Then bringing in a guide to explain the situation was the right move. Brak rules your way, you get the spawn free and clear.

But instead Chest trained and ruined your perfect annexation of Nixxar+friend camp. Brak missed this detail and ruled, in my opinion, in a way that doesn't reflect the server rules.

Next time don't train. All I'm saying.

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 05:15 PM

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 05:18 PM

Then bringing in a guide to explain the situation was the right move. Brak rules your way, you get the spawn free and clear.

But instead Chest trained and ruined your perfect annexation of Nixxar+friend camp. Brak missed this detail and ruled, in my opinion, in a way that doesn't reflect the server rules.

Next time don't train. All I'm saying.Each party trained each other once. Important part is Nixxar did it first. But they mostly cancel each other out. What Braknar was there for is to rule who has claim to the camp according to server rules. Whether its shady or not or you like it or not BDA had 100% claim to the camp according to the way the server rules are written. At NO POINT did Nixxar have legit claim to camp from the moment we showed up.

Nibblewitz

10-23-2015, 05:20 PM

I actually camped after I slowed mob but didn't realize where I camped I'd get back on aggro list instantly after I logged back on. Nub moment on my part should've gone around the corner more before I camped.

It's a rough server. Good thing you've met Nixxar and Qualia, and know what they are about.

http://i.imgur.com/FmtGFpM.jpg

Man0warr

10-23-2015, 05:26 PM

Champion_Standing

10-23-2015, 06:24 PM

Sounds like pretty much all parties involved deserve a suspension for just general asshattery.

You guys wonder why you have to deal with so many shitty players? Stop giving into these pixel obsessed man children and start banning accounts. The attitude on the server is the direct result of the way rules are enforced.

dafier

10-23-2015, 06:32 PM

The attitude on the server is the direct result of the way rules are enforced.

Bro, you mad or mad?

Champion_Standing

10-23-2015, 06:39 PM

Bro, you mad or mad?

What is this post 47 for u in rule threads today?

Perma rustled

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/50/31/6/static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/419/4193681/2366612-2529919625-laugh.gif

jinxy12

10-23-2015, 06:51 PM

What is this post 47 for u in rule threads today?

Perma rustled

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/50/31/6/static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/419/4193681/2366612-2529919625-laugh.gif

lmao you seem just as rustled =p takes one to know one =x

Champion_Standing

10-23-2015, 07:01 PM

lmao you seem just as rustled =p takes one to know one =x

Yeah i don't know about that. It does take a well versed autist to not be able to legitimately tell when a person is just ripping on you nerds and when they are angry and personally invested in it.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130501013441/code-testing/images/8/8b/Bill-Cosby-Laugh-GIF.gif

Man0warr

10-23-2015, 07:20 PM

You guys wonder why you have to deal with so many shitty players? Stop giving into these pixel obsessed man children and start banning accounts. The attitude on the server is the direct result of the way rules are enforced.

Devs/GMs coming up with FTE as the end-all-be-all mechanic is why the server is the way it is today. That's why training is the best tactic for raiding. A little more thought on a solution may have avoided morphing the playerbase into what they are currently.

maestrom

10-23-2015, 07:23 PM

Devs/GMs coming up with FTE as the end-all-be-all mechanic is why the server is the way it is today. That's why training is the best tactic for raiding. A little more thought on a solution may have avoided morphing the playerbase into what they are currently.

First in Force! -cough-

jcr4990

10-23-2015, 07:27 PM

First in Force! -cough-Sim Repops only fixes it all for raiding. For PoM and other groupable camp disputes we already have a system that works. Have a kill force ready or you lose it.

maestrom

10-23-2015, 07:41 PM

Sim Repops only fixes it all for raiding. For PoM and other groupable camp disputes we already have a system that works. Have a kill force ready or you lose it.

I agree 100%.

You camp, leave the zone, whatever, you lose your camp.

I'm sympathetic to the situation here. Swapping chars is one of those grey areas where I think, in theory, you could make an argument that you didn't ACTUALLY abandon your camp.

However, bright line rules are easier to enforce. This camp takes 2 people (never been solo'd by a monk and this monk is not currently soloing them). There was only 1 person there. Camp is open. Allowing a "switching chars" exception is too easy to abuse.

However, admitted open and intentional training should result in an automatic suspension imo.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 07:42 PM

Nice thing about red is you don't have these camp disputes and GMs never log on red so you don't have to deal with that either . Win win IMO

Champion_Standing

10-23-2015, 07:46 PM

Nice thing about red is you don't have these camp disputes and GMs never log on red so you don't have to deal with that either . Win win IMO

Well there is no such thing as a "camp dispute" when two players can just pvp for it.

But the truth is that most of the time you can't actually pvp the oor guy coming in to steal your camp and you just end up having to play petitionquest like you were on blue. Assuming you even see someone else at the camp lol.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 07:50 PM

Well there is no such thing as a "camp dispute" when two players can just pvp for it.

But the truth is that most of the time you can't actually pvp the oor guy coming in to steal your camp and you just end up having to play petitionquest like you were on blue. Assuming you even see someone else at the camp lol.

Petitionquest ends in GM never answering the petition and both players end up giving up and there is never 15 page threads like this one.

Champion_Standing

10-23-2015, 07:52 PM

Petitionquest ends in GM never answering the petition and both players end up giving up and there is never 15 page threads like this one.

Naw u just gotta wait 6 months or so they will get around to it.

k2summit

10-23-2015, 07:53 PM

Sim Repops only fixes it all for raiding. For PoM and other groupable camp disputes we already have a system that works. Have a kill force ready or you lose it.

It still doesnt change the fact of common fucking courtesy. You wanted the camp, and didnt care if someone else was there. _IMMA GET MY PIXALS_ So you crowbarred your way in, how can it be seen any differently from those on the outside looking in?

Man0warr

10-23-2015, 08:12 PM

Chest only lawyer quests Ex-TMO.

Sadre Spinegnawer

10-23-2015, 09:18 PM

BDA used to be a reputable guild on this server. You guys are garbage now. This is coming from an outsider with no steak or friends on either side.

BDA free steak night is every Tuesday. Pretty sure I've seen you there. So, confirmed liar.

Vianna

10-23-2015, 09:34 PM

Nixxar claimed he had been killing puppets allllll day, he hadn't.
Nixxar didn't have the required force to actually kill said puppets.
Nixxar put another puppet in summon range to get my group killed as we engaged (and to be fair I did it back to him once)

Then Braknar showed up, made a ruling, and Nixxar lost his mind. Maybe you don't compare the staff to the gestapo?

Uhm yeah he did looking at that fraps and logs. It only takes a Monk/Shaman to duo puppets. Camping from a Chanter to a shaman once you trigger a spawn is not against the rules. People spawn ragefire all the time and swap characters after that they duo it with. They had their 20 minutes and you didn't give it to them. Bad ruling by the GM.

Vianna

10-23-2015, 09:46 PM

His insufficient force was a chanter/monk duo, then just a monk solo. Only after puppets started spawning did his "sufficient force" show up.

Because they triggered the spawns. You really are looking bad here. You trigger them just like any other triggerable raid encounter in the game. People have switched characters for years while keeping a presence at the Ragefire camp. That is all that happened here and you tried to steal their triggered spawn. Then you petitioned when that went badly.

Plackers

10-23-2015, 09:54 PM

I find it odd in BDAs recruitment thread one of the requirements for joining in not to be a douchebag. What exactly does this fall under Chest?

Sadre Spinegnawer

10-23-2015, 10:37 PM

I find it odd in BDAs recruitment thread one of the requirements for joining in not to be a douchebag. What exactly does this fall under Chest?

Good lord are you just being dense? We are not talking about docks at Oasis.

If you can't keep a force at a highly contested end-game camp, too fucking bad. Things get a wee bit competitive at that end, and the op had lost his hold. This happens *all the time* in end game content.

Seriously. Are you just very slow? Maybe you watched too much Barney growing up and think everything is hugs and songs?

At end game content, stuff works at very small margins. But the principle is true: hold camp, you hold camp.

Logging out is not "holding camp" except in your Barney fantasies. <hugs>

At end game camps, you snooze for a second, you lose. Grow the fuck up, or either stop fronting.

Pokesan

10-23-2015, 10:49 PM

BDA is pulling this shit while campaigning for campable raid mobs? :eek:

Lojik

10-23-2015, 11:15 PM

Good lord are you just being dense? We are not talking about docks at Oasis.

If you can't keep a force at a highly contested end-game camp, too fucking bad. Things get a wee bit competitive at that end, and the op had lost his hold. This happens *all the time* in end game content.

Seriously. Are you just very slow? Maybe you watched too much Barney growing up and think everything is hugs and songs?

At end game content, stuff works at very small margins. But the principle is true: hold camp, you hold camp.

Logging out is not "holding camp" except in your Barney fantasies. <hugs>

At end game camps, you snooze for a second, you lose. Grow the fuck up, or either stop fronting.

Aren't you the one who gated out of a seb group because you didn't get awarded a cone of the mystics or something?

k2summit

10-23-2015, 11:39 PM

Good lord are you just being dense? We are not talking about docks at Oasis.

If you can't keep a force at a highly contested end-game camp, too fucking bad. Things get a wee bit competitive at that end, and the op had lost his hold. This happens *all the time* in end game content.

Seriously. Are you just very slow? Maybe you watched too much Barney growing up and think everything is hugs and songs?

At end game content, stuff works at very small margins. But the principle is true: hold camp, you hold camp.

Logging out is not "holding camp" except in your Barney fantasies. <hugs>

At end game camps, you snooze for a second, you lose. Grow the fuck up, or either stop fronting.

This is a fucking joke at best. They were fucking duoing it, not giving a shit about you. Then 4 or 5 BDA show up, they could have done a CC before they went to the stage RIIIIIGHT? Its why i cant play this fuckin server anymore. I want to, but its so god damn juvenile.

Lune

10-23-2015, 11:47 PM

This is a fucking joke at best. They were fucking duoing it, not giving a shit about you. Then 4 or 5 BDA show up, they could have done a CC before they went to the stage RIIIIIGHT? Its why i cant play this fuckin server anymore. I want to, but its so god damn juvenile.

I can commiserate, it's why I stopped too. The community got real toxic around late 2014 for one reason or another. I mean, that's not to say IB or TMO having the server on lockdown for years and years wasn't toxic, but at least there seemed to be a sense of general decency and camaraderie. Things like this happened a lot, of course, but they were a lot more rare.

Mead

10-24-2015, 12:02 AM

This is a prime example of what a scumbag chest is. It couldn't be more obvious that he wanted the camp and was prepared to do whatever he needed to take it. The pixel lust is strong. A true flaw in his character. A terrible decision was made to give him the camp, but that happens sometimes. GMs are human. Hopefully some better reason will be used if this happens again.

jcr4990

10-24-2015, 12:29 AM

Because they triggered the spawns. You really are looking bad here. You trigger them just like any other triggerable raid encounter in the game. People have switched characters for years while keeping a presence at the Ragefire camp. That is all that happened here and you tried to steal their triggered spawn. Then you petitioned when that went badly.

You realize Ragefire is considered a raid target right? And the 20 min timer for triggered mobs is a rule designed for raid targets?

Just checkin

Pokesan

10-24-2015, 12:37 AM

You realize Ragefire is considered a raid target right? And the 20 min timer for triggered mobs is a rule designed for raid targets?

Just checkin

you know us, always lawyering for pixels /eyeroll

iruinedyourday

10-24-2015, 12:50 AM

should move bda all to red IMO

Champion_Standing

10-24-2015, 01:00 AM

should move bda all to red IMO

Isn't Empire BDAs red guild?

Kekephee

10-24-2015, 01:06 AM

should move bda all to red IMO

You're just saying that because if 100 of us get moved to Red the population will double

Pokesan

10-24-2015, 01:10 AM

You're just saying that because if 100 of us get moved to Red the population will double

why just 20% of the guild?

arsenalpow

10-24-2015, 01:24 AM

why just 20% of the guild?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/959/Screenshot_116.png

iruinedyourday

10-24-2015, 01:24 AM

You're just saying that because if 100 of us get moved to Red the population will double

im saying that cus i want to play with filb & you and also i want the pop to grow and also i want chest to pull his shit on a server where he would get griefed off faster than tiggles did hehe

Pokesan

10-24-2015, 01:29 AM

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/959/Screenshot_116.png

I dunno what this means but I congratulate on earning that juice box. Enjoy it friend!

arsenalpow

10-24-2015, 01:29 AM

im saying that cus i want to play with filb & you and also i want the pop to grow and also i want chest to pull his shit on a server where he would get griefed off faster than tiggles did hehe

Tiggles wasn't raised on the mean streets of Sullon Zek like me. I had never even raided until P99, I exclusively ONLY played PvP. In fact I was always underlevel on SZ because I'd stick around at level 24 and kill for a few months, then get to 29 and do the same, 34... you get the idea.

However, the red community is a dumpster fire, and it's fair from classic resist rate. Shock of Lightning always resisted? Chaotic Feedback always resisted? Not classic whatsoever.

jcr4990

10-24-2015, 01:33 AM

Tiggles wasn't raised on the mean streets of Sullon Zek like me. I had never even raided until P99, I exclusively ONLY played PvP. In fact I was always underlevel on SZ because I'd stick around at level 24 and kill for a few months, then get to 29 and do the same, 34... you get the idea.

However, the red community is a dumpster fire, and it's fair from classic resist rate. Shock of Lightning always resisted? Chaotic Feedback always resisted? Not classic whatsoever.
Yea resists on Red are bullshit. Confirmed. I don't know if its just cause everyone has MR gear out the ass compared to live or if the resist rates are just totally wrong but either way its dumb.

Truth be told though I would play Red occasionally in my off-time if it wasn't a 1 guild playground. There's literally nothing fun about a PvP server with 1 dominant guild. I don't know how people stand it.

iruinedyourday

10-24-2015, 01:38 AM

bassed off of rnf this last couple days id have to say red community thriving pgoog compared to this nonsense

arsenalpow

10-24-2015, 01:39 AM

Yea resists on Red are bullshit. Confirmed. I don't know if its just cause everyone has MR gear out the ass compared to live or if the resist rates are just totally wrong but either way its dumb.

Truth be told though I would play Red occasionally in my off-time if it wasn't a 1 guild playground. There's literally nothing fun about a PvP server with 1 dominant guild. I don't know how people stand it.

You would need way over 225+ to consistently resist shock of lightning and chaotic feedback on the regular. People resist it consistently at like 150+ on red. Shock of Lightning was my go to all the way into Luclin until chain casting on someone with a pile of hp wasn't effective. When PoP came out resists were so absurd that it would just get straight resisted. Strafing around an opponent to change the direction the shock came from was bread and fucking butter wizard pvp. To hear that it's completely non functioning on red is sad.

Calibix

10-24-2015, 02:04 AM

Each party trained each other once. Important part is Nixxar did it first. But they mostly cancel each other out. What Braknar was there for is to rule who has claim to the camp according to server rules. Whether its shady or not or you like it or not BDA had 100% claim to the camp according to the way the server rules are written. At NO POINT did Nixxar have legit claim to camp from the moment we showed up.

The lust is strong.

You would need way over 225+ to consistently resist shock of lightning and chaotic feedback on the regular. People resist it consistently at like 150+ on red. Shock of Lightning was my go to all the way into Luclin until chain casting on someone with a pile of hp wasn't effective. When PoP came out resists were so absurd that it would just get straight resisted. Strafing around an opponent to change the direction the shock came from was bread and fucking butter wizard pvp. To hear that it's completely non functioning on red is sad.

Don't deflect. This is about the lust.

iruinedyourday

10-24-2015, 02:20 AM

You would need way over 225+ to consistently resist shock of lightning and chaotic feedback on the regular. People resist it consistently at like 150+ on red. Shock of Lightning was my go to all the way into Luclin until chain casting on someone with a pile of hp wasn't effective. When PoP came out resists were so absurd that it would just get straight resisted. Strafing around an opponent to change the direction the shock came from was bread and fucking butter wizard pvp. To hear that it's completely non functioning on red is sad.

resists are actually really well balanced on red

86753o9

10-24-2015, 02:35 AM

So the OP left the camp (switching toons), came back to camp to find that chest had taken the camp. Total shit move on Chest's part but within the rules. The OP knows the rules but curiously, is quite irate with the outcome. Then comes here and starts a thread in which the first line of text he calls the volunteer guide a "monsterous cunt". And some think the guide's reply to that (you seem mad) was inappropriate. Seriously?

iruinedyourday

10-24-2015, 02:40 AM

hmm no from my understanding OP was at the camp chest BURST IN through a dymentional portal where he was grappling with like 14 KOS dudes all with 255 resist as he turn casted on each one of them coining every one. then he THUNDER KICKED through the geometry and collision and picked up agro on EVERY MOB in the zone and said DO YOU WANA PVP WITH ME?! grabbing each one by the neck he wrapped his 1,000 foot long fingers around each throat the way a thread is woven into a rope then he NINJA WHIPED THE COCK RIGHT OFF op and stole the camp.

At least thats how it seems like it went down from what ive read

jcr4990

10-24-2015, 02:45 AM

fandAONgo

10-24-2015, 03:37 AM

may i get a TLDR of what happened? being a RNF vet and strong contributor i feel i deserve one plz

thx

SCB

10-24-2015, 03:41 AM

I didn't read any of this but all of you are terrible people who I hope engage in self-harm.

Especially Iruinedyourday who literally personifies everything that has ever been wrong with Everquest ever. There are not enough ill wishes for you irl. I hope fucking everything happens to you.

I'm relatively new to rnf but i assume anything goes here so please all of you cut yourselves.

fandAONgo

10-24-2015, 03:47 AM

No shit, can you blame him?

You had no idea what was going on and just came in and made a ruling with little to no investigation. I know you are new around here but maybe take the time to investigate shit and your attitude in this thread is atrocious for a CSR. I'd love to know what your actual play experience on this server was before submitting that guide app because LOL at that trigger shit.

You need to calm down sir. There is about 400 of these situations a day, and only a small handful of guides. Do you know how fast a guide would burn themselves out OR quit if they had to do a 30minute+ investigation in everyone of these scenarios? Don't give me "he's a volunteer, it's his voice to take the position", because no one in the world would be a guide if they had to spend all day investigating a minor claim like this

it's a game, on an emulated server where the staff and developers have done a wonderfully remarkable job recreating for us and maintaining it. if you think every time there is a camp dispute a guide will come over and spend an hour or more listening to both sides and all the parties invovled etc to be absolutely sure they make the right opinion, you are batshit insane.

just think about what you're asking. be happy the server is as well off as it is. there's no hacks, not much RMT, etc, can't you just be happy?

AND BESIDES there already is a solution to this problem, it's called the red server. Instead of petitioning a GM and getting a 3 hour trial on the situation, you could have both parties fight it out and the winner get's the spoils. consider red today

it's funny when people talk about the red server as having the psycho's and the maniacs of the eq community, really it's you sick blue fucks who are batshit insane when it comes to everquest

good luck and GOD bless

fandAONgo

10-24-2015, 03:48 AM

"it's his CHOICE"""" to take the position"

fandAONgo

10-24-2015, 03:49 AM

lol and to top it all off this is a Plane of Mischief dispute

NEWSFLASH::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::

resists dont matter on the blue server. every guild can already kill every boss and having a little more resists isn't going to change anything

Plane of Mischief exists for the pvp servers, because they can actually get a use out of the items

lol @ the OP losing his mind over pvp items, holy shit

the blue server has the most fucked up community of players on all of eqemu

fandAONgo

10-24-2015, 03:51 AM

aww the OP is Nixxar? this changes everything because he is a top pal from my time on blue and one of my favorite people on that server

luv u kid, miss u nixxar

fandAONgo

10-24-2015, 04:08 AM

so, in conclusion, i'm not sure how this camp works but

it seems technically Chest did nothing wrong, but it's still a super sleazeball move no matter how you look at it. it's 2015, these are pvp items that are inconsequential to your server and will not change anything for your character, except maybe not having to ask someone for buffs

blue truly has the most toxic players, the 350 people we get on Red a night is plenty of enough people to play with considering the alternative. it's 2015 and you bluebies are being such tremendous slimeballs towards each other

i genuinely feel bad for you guys, i feel bad that you think you need these items so much you have to treat each other do disrepectfully. if someone has to relog to switch characters to use, let them keep a camp you piranha ass vulcher fuck, chest

Raije1000

10-24-2015, 06:38 AM

regardless of the quad post and try red horseshit, this guys last post was spot on. chest is a cunt.