View Full Version : An account of corruption. Too long to read and Chest kills his own group because Bad
derpcake
10-24-2015, 07:12 AM
His insufficient force was a chanter/monk duo, then just a monk solo. Only after puppets started spawning did his "sufficient force" show up.
why don't you play on red? being as antisocial as you are?
oh yea, people can attack you there
Llodd
10-24-2015, 09:18 AM
I find it odd in BDAs recruitment thread one of the requirements for joining in not to be a douchebag. What exactly does this fall under Chest?
It wasn't that long ago you had to be a close friend or relative of an existing member to apply.
Don't believe everything you read ;P
fishingme
10-24-2015, 11:01 AM
And you obviously had no knowledge of how the camp works. Made an incorrect ruling based on nothing but your ignorance to the details. How about next time you take a moment to get familiar with the camp in question before making a ruling that goes against the rules you are supposed to be upholding.
Giving idiots power just leads to idiotic decisions
BDA is full of ass hats
+1. Quillmane isn't considered a camp not because it's a trigger but because quillmane paths throughout the zone.
fishingme
10-24-2015, 11:13 AM
Real talk, I actually read the thing and if your force camped for any reason you left your camp.
It's really niche and nitpicky, but you fucked up. Own up to it. The rules are posted in several places. The long form list that I looked through, quoted a few posts ago, and that everyone is bound by, is in Raid Discussion. Go read it.
If your other people hadn't camped, you would have been in the clear. Chest might be an asshole, but Braknar enforced the rules as-written.
Don't camp out next time.
His duo still kept a presence at a camp that was killed. People have been corpsing jboot rings for years without losing camp...
Champion_Standing
10-24-2015, 11:21 AM
Any young forumquester that want to make a name for themselves wanna dig up some old chest posts where he is crying like a bitch for losing mobs? I can guarantee there are dozens but I don't care enough to look.
Ahhhh when the bullied becomes the bully, bet BDA and gang are just on cloud 9 over there.
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1532/15320372/2420772-4041132961-mj-la.gif
maestrom
10-24-2015, 11:26 AM
His duo still kept a presence at a camp that was killed. People have been corpsing jboot rings for years without losing camp...
From the PNP: "It should also be noted that if you camp out or leave the zone, you have forfeited a camp."
His duo became a solo when half of his duo camped, and then, however briefly, he lost the ability to assert his claim against someone wishing to contest the spawn.
Just so happened that Chest and crew showed up right then, but thats the risk you run when you camp out.
However, both should have had action taken against them for intentional training imo. I don't believe in the "offsetting trains" nonsense.
fishingme
10-24-2015, 11:39 AM
From the PNP: "It should also be noted that if you camp out or leave the zone, you have forfeited a camp."
His duo became a solo when half of his duo camped, and then, however briefly, he lost the ability to assert his claim against someone wishing to contest the spawn.
Just so happened that Chest and crew showed up right then, but thats the risk you run when you camp out.
However, both should have had action taken against them for intentional training imo. I don't believe in the "offsetting trains" nonsense.
His duo still maintained a presence at a killed camp though. He easily could of gone linkdead instead of him /camping . Would this of looked better if he just had multiple chars on different accounts and /exit to cause an "LD" tag and logged onto his other char which so many people do on this server. The PNP was good for live servers, but it just doesn't work on p1999 when there's so many people and so many ways to subvert it
How would you take it if I did the same thing to you while you were camping Frenzy with a duo partner? You guys just finish killing up mob spawns and your partner needs to log onto a different character for a minute while you yourself can't kill the spawns because you're a lvl 49 cleric. Then I come strolling in on my shaman and I tell you that I'm going to take camp because your buddy isn't there, then 10 seconds later (one minute after you finish killing respawns) your buddy logs back in and I tell you guys that you need to leave because you didn't keep up a group presence capable of killing the camp.
If to follow the PNP like this, may as well count LD's as logging out.
Plackers
10-24-2015, 11:41 AM
His duo still maintained a presence at a killed camp though. He easily could of gone linkdead instead of him /camping . Would this of looked better if he just had multiple chars on different accounts and /exit to cause an "LD" tag and logged onto his other char which so many people do on this server. The PNP was good for live servers, but it just doesn't work on p1999 when there's so many people and so many ways to subvert it
How would you take it if I did the same thing to you while you were camping Frenzy with a duo partner? You guys just finish killing up mob spawns and your partner needs to log onto a different character for a minute while you yourself can't kill the spawns because you're a lvl 49 cleric. Then I come strolling in on my shaman and I tell you that I'm going to take camp because your buddy isn't there, then 10 seconds later (one minute after you finish killing respawns) your buddy logs back in and I tell you guys that you need to leave because you didn't keep up a group presence capable of killing the camp.
If to follow the PNP like this, may as well count LD's as logging out.
Look, the brain dead moron is going to respond that you lose the camp in that situation. You need to remember that these guys are playing Everquest 12+ hours a day and this is all they have going for them in their life.
Rararboker
10-24-2015, 11:47 AM
Any young forumquester that want to make a name for themselves wanna dig up some old chest posts where he is crying like a bitch for losing mobs? I can guarantee there are dozens but I don't care enough to look.
Ahhhh when the bullied becomes the bully, bet BDA and gang are just on cloud 9 over there.
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1532/15320372/2420772-4041132961-mj-la.gif
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55741
It is even sort of thesame situation! How funny is that?
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 12:00 PM
may i get a TLDR of what happened? being a RNF vet and strong contributor i feel i deserve one plz
thx
hmm no from my understanding OP was at the camp chest BURST IN through a dymentional portal where he was grappling with like 14 KOS dudes all with 255 resist as he turn casted on each one of them coining every one. then he THUNDER KICKED through the geometry and collision and picked up agro on EVERY MOB in the zone and said DO YOU WANA PVP WITH ME?! grabbing each one by the neck he wrapped his 1,000 foot long fingers around each throat the way a thread is woven into a rope then he NINJA WHIPED THE COCK RIGHT OFF op and stole the camp.
At least thats how it seems like it went down from what ive read
DO YOU WANNA PVP WITH ME???
dragonhawk
10-24-2015, 12:27 PM
Someone with lawyerquest experience answer this for me...
1. Does this mean if someone at a camp, whether it's ancient cyclops or Droga Earring of Essence or whatever, dies/logs out to corpse a lore item, that I can then nab the camp?
2. Does this mean I can nab the triggered spawn at ragefire when people are logging in different chars?
I've seen this happen tons of times and I've always respected the person logging out and logging back in. Whether it is to corpse an item or switch chars.
What I want to know is.... who can make use of this new legal precedent? Do you have to be a guild leader whose been playing here for 10 years to benefit from this new rule? Or can newbies like me make use of it too?
I want to know the rules so I can use them like all the veterans... somehow I feel like this rule is not going to be available for me to benefit from though...
fishingme
10-24-2015, 12:28 PM
Look, the brain dead moron is going to respond that you lose the camp in that situation. You need to remember that these guys are playing Everquest 12+ hours a day and this is all they have going for them in their life.
Precisely the reason why the PNP / camp policies should reflect upon situations like this instead of being aligned to the morally superior players. This is why the PNP doesn't work in scenarios like this one.
dragonhawk
10-24-2015, 12:39 PM
Ancient Cyclops:
I show up and wait around. The guy killing it gets a ring and kills himself to leave it on his corpse. As soon as he dies and gets LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... I seize the camp.
There was a list, but do I just now supersede the list and own the camp because the guy who was holding the camp and enforcing the list did not have his kill force present?
I'm absolutely 100% not complaining if these are the rules. I just want to know the rules and where and how they apply so that I can follow them to the best of my ability.
I just want to learn how to play like all the veterans on the server and am not complaining about the rules.
Here's my concern... I KNOW that if I did the above tactic the guy is going to cry foul. He will yell profanities are me. I will, rightfully, take the AC and own it from then on. (It's not KSing because I own the camp). He will petition.
Now here's the part where it gets confusing... I'm pretty sure no one will answer the petition. But let's say someone does. Will they rule on my side?
Even though the rules seem clear from this instance it seems very difficult to predict which way they will rule. So I suppose I should just test it out?
You win some, you lose some. Maybe it really comes down to more being WHO you are then being WHAT you are doing. If so then the only way to win P99 is to build up a rep.
Lisset
10-24-2015, 12:45 PM
The "rules" are whatever a guide or GM decides at that time. Just accept it.
dragonhawk
10-24-2015, 12:48 PM
The "rules" are whatever a guide or GM decides at that time. Just accept it.
Ok... but the next question then is...
who are the guides and GMs? Is there a list somewhere? Maybe we can find patterns in the way they rule so that we can predict which way things will go.
This is how you deal with judges IRL... you learn the way that judges tend to rule and then you can make bets
If you're a casual player with no hope of ever getting in on something like AC, this rule gives you hope. You can make a bet that the guy camping AC will not have a kill force present at some point and now you might actually be able to get some loot without poopsocking
Plackers
10-24-2015, 12:52 PM
Ok... but the next question then is...
who are the guides and GMs? Is there a list somewhere? Maybe we can find patterns in the way they rule so that we can predict which way things will go.
This is how you deal with judges IRL... you learn the way that judges tend to rule and then you can make bets
If you're a casual player with no hope of ever getting in on something like AC, this rule gives you hope. You can make a bet that the guy camping AC will not have a kill force present at some point and now you might actually be able to get some loot without poopsocking
Just don't play on blue and you won't have to deal with GM rulings or these players.
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 01:04 PM
Ancient Cyclops:
I show up and wait around. The guy killing it gets a ring and kills himself to leave it on his corpse. As soon as he dies and gets LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... I seize the camp.
There was a list, but do I just now supersede the list and own the camp because the guy who was holding the camp and enforcing the list did not have his kill force present?
I'm absolutely 100% not complaining if these are the rules. I just want to know the rules and where and how they apply so that I can follow them to the best of my ability.
I just want to learn how to play like all the veterans on the server and am not complaining about the rules.
Here's my concern... I KNOW that if I did the above tactic the guy is going to cry foul. He will yell profanities are me. I will, rightfully, take the AC and own it from then on. (It's not KSing because I own the camp). He will petition.
Now here's the part where it gets confusing... I'm pretty sure no one will answer the petition. But let's say someone does. Will they rule on my side?
Even though the rules seem clear from this instance it seems very difficult to predict which way they will rule. So I suppose I should just test it out?
You win some, you lose some. Maybe it really comes down to more being WHO you are then being WHAT you are doing. If so then the only way to win P99 is to build up a rep.
My understanding of the rules is you're in the clear maintaining your camp regardless of where you move within the zone or corpsing items.etc as long as you're back and ready to engage when the mob spawns.
The reason Nixxar was ruled against is because Puppets spawned and he didn't have a force ready to kill them and we did. Ragefire is a special case because its a triggered raid target which grants you a 20 minute window to engage after triggering.
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 01:07 PM
Just don't play on blue and you won't have to deal with GM rulings or any players whatsoever.
maestrom
10-24-2015, 01:08 PM
His duo still maintained a presence at a killed camp though. He easily could of gone linkdead instead of him /camping . Would this of looked better if he just had multiple chars on different accounts and /exit to cause an "LD" tag and logged onto his other char which so many people do on this server. The PNP was good for live servers, but it just doesn't work on p1999 when there's so many people and so many ways to subvert it
How would you take it if I did the same thing to you while you were camping Frenzy with a duo partner? You guys just finish killing up mob spawns and your partner needs to log onto a different character for a minute while you yourself can't kill the spawns because you're a lvl 49 cleric. Then I come strolling in on my shaman and I tell you that I'm going to take camp because your buddy isn't there, then 10 seconds later (one minute after you finish killing respawns) your buddy logs back in and I tell you guys that you need to leave because you didn't keep up a group presence capable of killing the camp.
If to follow the PNP like this, may as well count LD's as logging out.
Look, I'm all about GMs/Guides using their judgment to settle disputes, obviously "maintain presence" needs a better definition. What I'm saying is, when there is a rule that says don't camp out, when you camp out you run the risk of another group coming in and the GM/Guide siding with them.
Going LD is not camping, so I think in your LD situation you'd have a better argument, especially if staff can see that.
I also said, previously, that I thought Nixxar had a pretty good argument for the camp being his despite the PNP being worded inelegantly. But I really don't feel sorry for either of these folks because they both intentionally trained each other.
Llandris
10-24-2015, 01:15 PM
Ok... but the next question then is...
who are the guides and GMs? Is there a list somewhere? Maybe we can find patterns in the way they rule so that we can predict which way things will go.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128771
dragonhawk
10-24-2015, 01:29 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128771
Is Tanthalas still around? Clicking the link shows up blank
Looks like most of the guides barely ever post at all
There is an implicit debate in this thread... the question is whether guides are predictable in following some rules or if their interpretations significantly vary.
The BDA side says they are consistent and this was just an appropriate application of some complex rules. I think Trolololo has convinced me here.. seems like Nixxar presented a misleading selection of facts but omitted the key fact that the puppets were up while his pal was relogging.
Big_Japan
10-24-2015, 01:40 PM
You seem mad.
Will the non-dev staff ever have a single quality individual? God damn.
'u mad brew' like every guide arbitration is jolly trolling, but God forbid you say the N word cuz daybreak is watching :rolleyes:
Champion_Standing
10-24-2015, 01:49 PM
Will the non-dev staff ever have a single quality individual? God damn.
'u mad brew' like every guide arbitration is jolly trolling, but God forbid you say the N word cuz daybreak is watching :rolleyes:
The fish rots from the head bro
dragonhawk
10-24-2015, 01:51 PM
Will the non-dev staff ever have a single quality individual? God damn.
'u mad brew' like every guide arbitration is jolly trolling, but God forbid you say the N word cuz daybreak is watching :rolleyes:
whats the name of your stream?
iruinedyourday
10-24-2015, 01:52 PM
If any of your parrents talked to you like fandango is in thus thread you adult children wouldnt have had this problem at all hehe
fishingme
10-24-2015, 02:03 PM
My understanding of the rules is you're in the clear maintaining your camp regardless of where you move within the zone or corpsing items.etc as long as you're back and ready to engage when the mob spawns.
The reason Nixxar was ruled against is because Puppets spawned and he didn't have a force ready to kill them and we did. Ragefire is a special case because its a triggered raid target which grants you a 20 minute window to engage after triggering.
To your own words and gms words, they should of had a 20 minute window to attack the mobs because its a "triggered raid target" The dude was literally back within a minute and a half.
fishingme
10-24-2015, 02:05 PM
Look, I'm all about GMs/Guides using their judgment to settle disputes, obviously "maintain presence" needs a better definition. What I'm saying is, when there is a rule that says don't camp out, when you camp out you run the risk of another group coming in and the GM/Guide siding with them.
Going LD is not camping, so I think in your LD situation you'd have a better argument, especially if staff can see that.
I also said, previously, that I thought Nixxar had a pretty good argument for the camp being his despite the PNP being worded inelegantly. But I really don't feel sorry for either of these folks because they both intentionally trained each other.
I don't think you quite understand, a /exit leaves up an LD message on your name. Lots of people have chars on multiple accounts so they normally /exit to switch characters. This guy just has chars on one account he was switching between. Hey, he could of logged back in as another guildie who is there to help kill puppets.
Ostros
10-24-2015, 02:07 PM
Will the non-dev staff ever have a single quality individual? God damn.
'u mad brew' like every guide arbitration is jolly trolling, but God forbid you say the N word cuz daybreak is watching :rolleyes:
Nothing more pathetic than someone who's only argument is "SO UNPROFESSIONAL. SHAME."
Fuck you, dude. You're the worst kind of people. Its a private server, not a business.
OP isplatinum mad, just like you.
Gulliver
10-24-2015, 02:18 PM
id gladly eat a suspension, while chest eats one for double the length...throw out whatever technicalities and rules and lawyering you want...fact is he showed up without even asking or trying to be reasonable and stole the camp just because hes a pathological fucking asshole. sure my duo partner camped out to switch characters..so what? boils down to courtesy and chest being a cunt. leading one of the largest guilds from a sheer playerbase standpoint and influencing a large number of people to behave like cunts.
http://i.imgur.com/6TxrOzb.jpg
dragonhawk
10-24-2015, 02:29 PM
two aspects of the meta game:
1. rule lawyering and currying favor with the judges
2. appealing to the masses, winning reputation from the masses
#1 gets you the camp wins, what does #2 get you? that seems to be what nixxar is going for. maybe he's playing the long game of getting people to desist from challenging his camps because they dont want to be called cunts
captnamazing
10-24-2015, 02:58 PM
leading one of the largest guilds from a sheer playerbase standpoint and influencing a large number of people to behave like cunts.
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What other standpoint is there to measure guild size fucktard
fishingme
10-24-2015, 03:02 PM
What other standpoint is there to measure guild size fucktard
What they have cleared currently, what they're able to do.
" Bill: Jeez, man, Warriors of Legacy are HUGE! They just took out Apocalypse!
Bob: No shit? How many people did they have?
Bill: 12! "
captnamazing
10-24-2015, 03:07 PM
What they have cleared currently, what they're able to do.
" Bill: Jeez, man, Warriors of Legacy are HUGE! They just took out Apocalypse!
Bob: No shit? How many people did they have?
Bill: 12! "
No. When would you ever say a guild is large because it could clear something. What our pal Nixxar meant to write is that BDA is one of the best guilds, even if only because of their guild size
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 03:09 PM
BDA is one of the best guilds, even if only because of their guild size but also definitely because of their sheer RP strength
captnamazing
10-24-2015, 03:10 PM
Chest is a patron to the RP arts.
Ragnaros
10-24-2015, 03:14 PM
Uhm yeah he did looking at that fraps and logs. It only takes a Monk/Shaman to duo puppets. Camping from a Chanter to a shaman once you trigger a spawn is not against the rules. People spawn ragefire all the time and swap characters after that they duo it with. They had their 20 minutes and you didn't give it to them. Bad ruling by the GM.
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 05:08 PM
To your own words and gms words, they should of had a 20 minute window to attack the mobs because its a "triggered raid target" The dude was literally back within a minute and a half.
Puppets are a raid target? Hahahaha
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 05:10 PM
Rag I know you aren't QUITE retarded enough to think puppets are a raid target right?
ArumTP
10-24-2015, 05:17 PM
So now my understanding its okay to jack someone's undead luccam, cause triggered shit don't matter according to bda?
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 05:29 PM
So now my understanding its okay to jack someone's undead luccam, cause triggered shit don't matter according to bda?
If they don't have a force capable of killing it present? According to P99 rules I believe is 100% acceptable.
Kluwen1
10-24-2015, 05:41 PM
Read a few pages of this, so next time someone pearls RF I can have my two friends log in to kill it since one person turning in isn't sufficient force to kill it?
http://i.imgur.com/6TxrOzb.jpg
Great show, great post
fishingme
10-24-2015, 06:06 PM
No. When would you ever say a guild is large because it could clear something. What our pal Nixxar meant to write is that BDA is one of the best guilds, even if only because of their guild size
It's an idiom dude.
A more common idiom is this
"Some day he's going to kick the bucket"
This isn't saying that he's going to kick a physical bucket, bucket of water etc. It means
"Someday he's going to die"
JboxCSU
10-24-2015, 06:21 PM
If they don't have a force capable of killing it present? According to P99 rules I believe is 100% acceptable.
Until you train yourself and die...forfeiting the camp. According to p99 rules I believe is 100% acceptable.
fishingme
10-24-2015, 06:26 PM
Puppets are a raid target? Hahahaha
Anything over 2 lvl 60s = a raid force to me in this thread, bro. Especially when two people can duo them which after reading the first couple pages of this thread is pretty clear that BDA Doesn't have the knowledge to duo them.
Sadre Spinegnawer
10-24-2015, 06:32 PM
Aren't you the one who gated out of a seb group because you didn't get awarded a cone of the mystics or something?
Is that all you got? I got one night of /ragequit, and that is all you got? My friend, I have fucked up in this game more times than you have been laid. You want to come at me with weak sauce, well, enjoy that.
Maybe you live in a world where if you behaved like me, it is over for you.
But I'm Sadre. And you're not.
Sadre Spinegnawer
10-24-2015, 06:45 PM
Someone with lawyerquest experience answer this for me...
1. Does this mean if someone at a camp, whether it's ancient cyclops or Droga Earring of Essence or whatever, dies/logs out to corpse a lore item, that I can then nab the camp?
2. Does this mean I can nab the triggered spawn at ragefire when people are logging in different chars?
I've seen this happen tons of times and I've always respected the person logging out and logging back in. Whether it is to corpse an item or switch chars.
What I want to know is.... who can make use of this new legal precedent? Do you have to be a guild leader whose been playing here for 10 years to benefit from this new rule? Or can newbies like me make use of it too?
I want to know the rules so I can use them like all the veterans... somehow I feel like this rule is not going to be available for me to benefit from though...
end game content is different. the margins are tighter. you can't count on courtesy. I do not think that is unreasonable.
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 06:48 PM
Read a few pages of this, so next time someone pearls RF I can have my two friends log in to kill it since one person turning in isn't sufficient force to kill it?
Hello poster #1904823 that has compared Puppets (non raid target) to Ragefire (Raid target) and not understood the difference that raid triggered mobs have 20 min engage timer and non raid triggers do not.
Until you train yourself and die...forfeiting the camp. According to p99 rules I believe is 100% acceptable.You are correct we would have forfeited camp if we wiped and there was another kill force ready to engage puppets. Unfortunately both parties wiped and all that was left at camp was Chest and Nixxar. Neither able to solo the camp til their party members returned (At the same time) and being that BDA controlled the camp prior to wipe it remained theirs afterward since no other force got there before them.
Are you guys even trying? Your rule lawyering is seriously awful.
Sadre Spinegnawer
10-24-2015, 06:50 PM
Chest is a patron to the RP arts.
He's like a modern day Medici
Champion_Standing
10-24-2015, 06:54 PM
So many sick people in this thread.
Here's to hoping u guys get the help you need one day, no troll...I sincerely hope you guys can get the proper help and find peace some day.
Champion_Standing
10-24-2015, 07:16 PM
Nothing more pathetic than someone who's only argument is "SO UNPROFESSIONAL. SHAME."
Fuck you, dude. You're the worst kind of people. Its a private server, not a business.
OP isplatinum mad, just like you.
Actually it has nothing to do with professionalism. It has everything to do with being perceived as a level headed and fair person. When you act like a douche, people don't respect you and they certainly won't respect your decisions.
Ultimately they bring a lot of these types of threads on themselves by being baited into the "u mad brah" bullshit. A different attitude would make more people trust their decisions, and you'll get less flack in general and maybe be slightly less likely to kill yourself while being a GM on P99.
Braknar, just copy pasta "Sorry you disagree with this decision, feel free to post a petition on the petition forums and our senior staff may review it" and be done with it. Seriously dude, let these pixel terrorist fight among themselves and put as much distance as you can between you and RnF your life will be better for it. Also, you guys should really have more outcomes where both parties get suspended, that will eventually wean some of these petitionquesters off the staff tit.
Kluwen1
10-24-2015, 07:16 PM
[QUOTE=jcr4990;2086962]Hello poster #1904823 that has compared Puppets (non raid target) to Ragefire (Raid target) and not understood the difference that raid triggered mobs have 20 min engage timer and non raid triggers do not.
Hiya, I dont know much about PoM but I thought I read the previous poster saying the puppets became a triggered event thus allowing them 20 min to do whatever. Thats why I compared it to ragefire which again isn't really a raid mob as it can be done with 3 people even though BDA normally brings 30.
Sadre Spinegnawer
10-24-2015, 07:24 PM
[QUOTE=jcr4990;2086962]Thats why I compared it to ragefire which again isn't really a raid mob as it can be done with 3 people even though BDA normally brings 30.
BDA brings 30 because BDA is run out of a group home in Ft. Worth. I'm one of the admins at the house, and the goal is to teach people who have been in the penal system for often several decades basic life skills before they go out to look for a job, meet people, find love, etc.
I'd appreciate it if you did not attack BDA. What we do, makes it so these people do not kill again.
Donton
10-24-2015, 07:40 PM
So many sick people in this thread.
Here's to hoping u guys get the help you need one day, no troll...I sincerely hope you guys can get the proper help and find peace some day.
+1
https://33.media.tumblr.com/0b41fd8e351cec3e9d24a4f7835a0bf7/tumblr_inline_mgnge5dwmT1r7wwaj.gif
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 08:10 PM
[QUOTE=Kluwen1;2086987]
BDA brings 30 because BDA is run out of a group home in Ft. Worth. I'm one of the admins at the house, and the goal is to teach people who have been in the penal system for often several decades basic life skills before they go out to look for a job, meet people, find love, etc.
I'd appreciate it if you did not attack BDA. What we do, makes it so these people do not kill again.
BDA changed my life because I used to diapers and trench coat
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 10:07 PM
[QUOTE=jcr4990;2086962]Hello poster #1904823 that has compared Puppets (non raid target) to Ragefire (Raid target) and not understood the difference that raid triggered mobs have 20 min engage timer and non raid triggers do not.
Hiya, I dont know much about PoM but I thought I read the previous poster saying the puppets became a triggered event thus allowing them 20 min to do whatever. Thats why I compared it to ragefire which again isn't really a raid mob as it can be done with 3 people even though BDA normally brings 30.
The difference is Ragefire once upon a time was a legitimate raid target. It only became duo/small groupable after people outleveled/geared it to death. It's a dragon ffs. Puppets have been easily duoable since day 1 Velious and were never intended to be more than a 1 grp encounter.
SyanideGas
10-24-2015, 10:32 PM
Why cant any of you people quote something correctly. Gad dayum.
jcr4990
10-24-2015, 11:04 PM
Why cant any of you people quote something correctly. Gad dayum.
Yea I dunno why that is happening. All I did was hit the quote button like I always do.
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 11:37 PM
I think it has something to do with computer science when someone put half of a code in the computer post and you click the button so it fills in half of the code hanging in space please computer science
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 11:38 PM
Somebody call James the group home manager to teach us how to fix computer posting quotes
James Jeffreys please fix it
Kekephee
10-24-2015, 11:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/AbHUIQH.jpg
You see, it started here, then every time someone clicks the quote button it fills in the other half of the computer code, leaving the first half of the computer code hanging and repeating the computer cycle
arsenalpow
10-24-2015, 11:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/AbHUIQH.jpg
You see, it started here, then every time someone clicks the quote button it fills in the other half of the computer code, leaving the first half of the computer code hanging and repeating the computer cycle
RIP forager.
jcr4990
10-25-2015, 12:14 AM
[QUOTE=jcr4990;2087069]
Which is relevant how? Apparently Chest cant duo it as he stated as much himself. People outgear PoM just like they outgear RF on this server because of 5+ years of kunark. single grouped triggered mob have always been treated the same way as the raid mobs have, Scout in WW and coldain ring events both come to mind right off the bat. this was just chest deciding to be a tool and you riding his ass to the pixel welfare line.
There are dragons in WW that you can solo, are they also raid mobs to you?
If you are going to try and argue, at least attempt to have relevant and informed opinions, otherwise you just look like a tool stuck on chests nuts.
Chest said he couldn't kill ALL the puppets before the trigger respawned as duo. Not that he couldn't duo it. Its easily duo'able. Scout and Ring War had special rules made for them /shrug
It's pretty humorous how much Trollolololol attempts to deflect every post in every thread about chest. How does his dick taste pal?
Braknar, just copy pasta "Sorry you disagree with this decision, feel free to post a petition on the petition forums and our senior staff may review it" and be done with it. Seriously dude, let these pixel terrorist fight among themselves and put as much distance as you can between you and RnF your life will be better for it. Also, you guys should really have more outcomes where both parties get suspended, that will eventually wean some of these petitionquesters off the staff tit.
So very much this
Phantasm
10-25-2015, 01:15 AM
It's pretty humorous how much Trollolololol attempts to deflect every post in every thread about chest. How does his dick taste pal?
troll was in that group you dingus
jcr4990
10-25-2015, 01:56 AM
troll was in that group you dingus
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