Darcnecro <Haggard Krew>

[Paleman]

Man what is that gif from? Looks like a really shitty day wherever those guys work.

clean up at the gay orgy factory

[arsenalpow]

Taken has been going to HoT Tues/Thurs
BDA has been going to HoT Wed/Fri
Not sure how other guilds have been scheduling it

I'm not sure what Taken's hours are but we're usually around from 7pm ESt to 11pm EST give or take an hour.

[Kileras]

we go wed/sun and sometimes saturday. Amiable and open to just getting a rotation of the guilds that actually do it/are friendly with each other.

we go 7:30pm EST to 11:45/midnight EST

[kined]

Rampage was averaging about 30 major kills a week, which I'm sure is now less with ForsakenGard pushing them. Look at some of the Rampage thread bumps, 73 kills for 176 items over two weeks. That's why there's less room for the small guilds, if we (we the tier 2 guilds) want content we have to croot and contest and because there's a finite number of nexkbeards on the server, and because neckbeards like the path of least resistance it's going to be tough to overcome them.


i seriously do not understand the problem here... if you want to get ahead of them you have to do what they have already done... its not like they have some magic upperhand for getting FTE's and organizing, they just became the best at it. if other guilds cant keep up then they have to stick with what they can get. if you want to be casual then this isnt a problem, if you dont want to be casual then you have to get a better raidforce than them or join them. this whole argument against rampage is ridiculous. they get that stuff because they are better than other guilds.... plain and simple. Norrath has always been a harsh place and youll have to forgive the EQ universe if it doesnt step in to hold peoples hands so that they can feel that they are just as good. they devote alot of time into getting those kills.

[arsenalpow]

i seriously do not understand the problem here... if you want to get ahead of them you have to do what they have already done... its not like they have some magic upperhand for getting FTE's and organizing, they just became the best at it. if other guilds cant keep up then they have to stick with what they can get. if you want to be casual then this isnt a problem, if you dont want to be casual then you have to get a better raidforce than them or join them. this whole argument against rampage is ridiculous. they get that stuff because they are better than other guilds.... plain and simple. Norrath has always been a harsh place and youll have to forgive the EQ universe if it doesnt step in to hold peoples hands so that they can feel that they are just as good. they devote alot of time into getting those kills.

It's not a problem, it's just the reality, but it was an explanation to the very casual raid guilds as to how the upper tier economics trickle down to the lower tier

[arsenalpow]

we go wed/sun and sometimes saturday. Amiable and open to just getting a rotation of the guilds that actually do it/are friendly with each other.

we go 7:30pm EST to 11:45/midnight EST

Switch to a Monday and you dodge BDA and Taken, just saying.

[kined]

It's not a problem, it's just the reality, but it was an explanation to the very casual raid guilds as to how the upper tier economics trickle down to the lower tier

yeah sorry i reread the section before and i realized you werent the same person who was complaining that rampage "stole" one of their kills by getting FTE and assembling a full raid force in minutes, it was a guy who was above you. my bad! point still remains for those who actually complain about.

[Alenon]

You realize that's a construct of the top tier guilds and not the mid tier guilds right? What BDA and Taken do is a shitty approximation of what Rampage does.

Rampage ripped a Tormax kill that BDA was working hard for. They had two guys get FTE while 70 other Rampage poured into Kael, had their main tank and ramp tank ready to go, plus a functional CH chain all on the fly in under 60 seconds or something.

When you yell at BDA or Taken for choking out new guilds you have to realize that every guild is hardened by dealing with Rampage, or from dealing with each other. There's no slack in the line because that's always how p99 has been, the top guild always does whatever it takes and everyone else is forced to adjust their orbits around the leading guilds gravity.

It was like that on live too. On bb fu/ao/Rov choked out col till they became a contender, then those 4 choked out cb/tot/vf who choked out itsb/oowd etc etc. I remember when we finally got elemental flagged the top tier said "hell no" and proceeded to make sure we could never get an elemental kill

[Kileras]

you switch, just sayin. im sure you guys have more coverage eh? :)

[Nibblewitz]

See ya Wednesday.

[arsenalpow]

Every guild loses kills, Rampage loses way less than everyone else. BDA lost that KT kill and it was annoying but that's p99. You gotta even out, don't get too high when you win, don't get too low when you lose. Maintain the course.

At some point I'd like to kill the cool NToV content, but we don't feel like wading into the deep end of the pool. We have people that still want HoT armor, and people that like their dragon faction.