Plane of Growth Trash Drops

[Daldaen]

I will post Magelo logs and some classic quotes a bit later from a computer rather than from my phone. But basically the issue is PoGrowth mobs aren't dropping gems and cash loot with correct frequency.

They should drop "cash drops" about 10% of the time. 1% per drop, among:

Diamond
Blue Diamond
Black Sapphire
Jacinth
Ruby
Ruby Crown
Sapphire Necklace
Star Ruby Earring
Fire Emerald Ring

Currently these are dropping with far less frequency. It's as though it's a 1% drop shared by all the items on this table. Instead of a 10% drop, where each item occupies an equal share of that 10% in likelihood of dropping.

Growth was notorious for a great place to far cash loot for guild banks and resist jewelry gems.

[jibekn]

its also important to consider the population here is a lot smaller than live so inflated the economy is an issue

[Daldaen]

That really isn't an issue.

The issue is that PoGrowth isn't dropping gems with anywhere near the frequency it should be. That was one of the biggest draws to raiding that zone.

[blondeattk]

oh look another drop rate issue....why are the developers so mean spirited?

[Daldaen]

Gale Wolf (http://eq.magelo.com/npc/100184/a-gale-wolf) - 479 Loot Sample Size

Black Sapphire - 10 - 2%
Blue Diamond - 8 - 1%
Diamond - 5 - 1%
Jacinth - 3 - <1%

Rare Gems - 26 - 5.4%

Fire Emerald Ring - 6 - 1%
Ruby - 7 - 1%
Ruby Crown - 4 - <1%
Sapphire Necklace - 4 - <1%
Star Ruby Earring - 6 - 1%

Cash Drops - 27 - 5.6%
Total Drop - 53 - 11.1%

Glade Stalker (http://eq.magelo.com/npc/97507) - 440 Loot Sample Size

Black Sapphire - 1 - <1%
Blue Diamond - 7 - 1%
Diamond - 6 - 1%
Jacinth - 4 - <1%

Rare Gems - 18 - 4.1%

Fire Emerald Ring - 3 - <1%
Ruby - 5 - 1%
Ruby Crown - 5 - 1%
Sapphire Necklace - 2 - <1%
Star Ruby Earring - 4 - <1%

Cash Drops - 19 - 4.3%
Total Drop - 37 - 8.4%

Feral Amalgam (http://eq.magelo.com/npc/97516) - 491 Loot Sample Size

Black Sapphire - 7 - 1%
Blue Diamond - 7 - 1%
Diamond - 9 - 1%
Jacinth - 6 - 1%

Rare Gems - 29 - 5.9%

Fire Emerald Ring - 5 - 1%
Ruby - 6 - 1%
Ruby Crown - 15 - 3%
Sapphire Necklace - 14 - 2%
Star Ruby Earring - 12 - 2%

Cash Drops - 52 - 10.6%
Total Drop - 81 - 16.5%

Spirit Flux Wolf (http://eq.magelo.com/npc/97493) - 690 Loot Sample Size

Black Sapphire - 12 - 1%
Blue Diamond - 13 - 1%
Diamond - 7 - 1%
Jacinth - 15 - 2%

Rare Gems - 47 - 6.8%

Fire Emerald Ring - 7 - 1%
Ruby - 8 - 1%
Ruby Crown - 6 - <1%
Sapphire Necklace - 10 - 1%
Star Ruby Earring - 17 - 2%

Cash Drops - 48 - 7.0%
Total Drop - 95 - 13.8%

Etc. Etc.

These should be VERY common. They currently are not.

[Daldaen]

Blue Diamond Farming Guide (http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8674.html)

3)Plane of Hate

Difficulty-hard, doable by a single group but some required classes are needed (recommend 55+)

Rarity-common(frequently will have 20 blue diamonds drop upon 1st floor clearing)

Zones-Plane of Hate

Notes-this will also double as excellent exp, and possibly even some armour & items for certain classes. You will need a Wizard to port you up, and someone experienced at pulling Hate.

4)Plane of Growth

Difficulty-hard, doable by a single group but some required classes are needed (recommend 55+)

Rarity-common (20+ in a 4 hour session)

Zones-Plane of Growth

Notes-faction is an issue here. excellent exp & armour/spell drops are a plus.

Both PoHate and PoGrowth were well known places for Blue Diamonds, Diamonds, Black Sapphires, and Jacinths. Let's make it classic up in here and bump up the drop rate!

[Nirgon]

he's absolutely right about PoG/Hate being like this

[Luniz]

I remember always having diamonds bs and bds in my bags during velious and the only raiding I did was planar.

Anecdotal +1

[Luniz]

Furthermore it stands out so much in my memory because I used to vendor them on return trips to town. I was young and didn't know much about tradeskills.

[Daldaen]

Who cares . Find some other way to farm plat you greedy fuck

I'd prefer a classic experience where a casual guild can farm PoGrowth for armor and from the trash drops be able to fund sky stones or hate stones next week, or have the ability to outfit their members in Resist/HP jewelry.

Because classic.

Please refrain from trolling my bug posts in the future, thanks.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

I'd prefer a classic experience where a casual guild can farm PoGrowth for armor and from the trash drops be able to fund sky stones or hate stones next week, or have the ability to outfit their members in Resist/HP jewelry.

Because classic.

Please refrain from trolling my bug posts in the future, thanks.

he does the same in every bug thread he either says "i vote no" or he says inappropriate shit.

i'm waiting for our lady angel nilberg, hallowed be his name, to ban this fuck and his ingame characters (krazy, sickpuppy etc).

In support of OP: I used to farm POH during velious for diamonds and cash gear. Was a huge farm spot, especially when 2nd floor was opened during revamp and mini bosses added.

[pgerman]

this guy has zero proof of his claims


Although my GUT FEELING says hes right, because thats how I remember it.


Doesnt change the fact, zero evidence.

[blondeattk]

It does seem that this server caters to the ubber guilds and not the little guy.

I wonder if the gms fear too much pp in the economy? or maybe they just dont give a toss about ave joe player?

[Man0warr]

There is already too much plat in the economy, thanks to 5 years of Seafuries, and not enough cash sinks.

Nilbog needs to add a robot Casino or something.

[Daldaen]

You're all assuming this is intentional, and the devs are purposefully inhibiting drops on this.

I tend to think it's just a bug that hasn't had enough attention paid to it that will be resolved once nilbog or alunova read the thread and do a bit of their own research and realize "yes, PoGrowth and PoHate were hotspots for vendor trash"

PoHate/Sky stones, Corpse coffins, Vendor Recharging, Tradeskills, and quests like Lodi Shield/JBoots/Wiz/SK Epic that involve decent chunks of cash as turning all function as plat sinks.

Vendor Recharging is probably the biggest current thing taking platinum out of the system. I have no doubt the server burns 50-100k weekly on recharging things like mallets, reapers, WC hats, slow stones, invis rings, root nets, wands/rain callers, etc.

[Daldaen]

Bump

[Daldaen]

Bump.

[Faited]

The issue is that PoGrowth isn't dropping gems with anywhere near the frequency it should be. That was one of the biggest draws to raiding that zone.

As someone who raided PoG a TON on live, I can guarantee you that the "biggest draw" to raiding that zone wasn't the gem drops. FFS.

[Daefuin]

You're all assuming this is intentional, and the devs are purposefully inhibiting drops on this.

I tend to think it's just a bug that hasn't had enough attention paid to it that will be resolved once nilbog or alunova read the thread and do a bit of their own research and realize "yes, PoGrowth and PoHate were hotspots for vendor trash"

PoHate/Sky stones, Corpse coffins, Vendor Recharging, Tradeskills, and quests like Lodi Shield/JBoots/Wiz/SK Epic that involve decent chunks of cash as turning all function as plat sinks.

Vendor Recharging is probably the biggest current thing taking platinum out of the system. I have no doubt the server burns 50-100k weekly on recharging things like mallets, reapers, WC hats, slow stones, invis rings, root nets, wands/rain callers, etc.

Must be nice to recharge on your server... we're stuck with backwards ass rules on Red about recharding. Make items unusable in PvP AND prevent recharging.

[dafier]

he's absolutely right about PoG/Hate being like this

Correct and I concur as well. My guild on live farmed both Hate and Growth.

[TacoSmasher]

Anecdotal however:


Back in 2000/2001 my real life friend/neighbor started leading weekly pickup* hate raids on Mith Marr. He would master loot all of the gems and not distribute them after the raid like pure scum. He lead numerous hate raids and made a lot of money fast hoarding the gems and selling them off. I'd say within a month at most he had enough for a manastone, SMR, freeti boots.

True story

[Daldaen]

Bump. Growth / Hate need gem drop rate increases.

[Daldaen]

Bump. Growth / Hate need gem drop rate increases.

[Freakish]

I remember there being so many gem drops that on open raids everyone would leave with something. This was for plane of growth, I don't remember anything about hate.

[Daldaen]

Bump. Launch is soon, make growth clears classic!