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Alarti0001
05-26-2015, 09:31 AM
Like I said before, 1k Kunark pre 2013 was short lived. By the time IB RMT'd off the server in 2011, the pop was around 600 and dipped as low as 450 in 2012. (40k fungi tunics, thanks Jeremy, 4k FBSS's)
Server was 1200+ in 2015/mid-late 2014 long before Velious was announced, with Kunark dragging on and on into its 4th year and beyond.
So I'm not sure what you attribute the pop growth to if it wasn't the epic trust-busting.
Little guilds used to suffer unbelievable turnover. Full circle, Asgard, The A Team, Flawless Victory, Acyrid. You can only do so many nights clearing planar trash and getting monks/shamans their epics, and these guilds would bleed members. Some would get geared and move on to TMO, many just quit. I did. Many of my friends did. Today we have over twice as many 'serious' guilds, and they all get mobs. There is more content available to a higher number of people once you get 50+.
But you must have a more plausible explanation for the higher pop, right?
I'll go ahead and quote scripture again:
I mean, Rogean must be crazy right? Things were pretty good before, weren't they? I wonder why they did anything at all.
You list alot of statistics none of which correlate. Good Job!
Alarti0001
05-26-2015, 09:32 AM
These are the people that would poopsock rage fire as a guild, but never will even bother stepping foot in vp. It's no use.
HalflingWarrior
05-26-2015, 11:00 AM
I'm not crying. I'm happy you scumbags are happy to sit around 16 hours with 30 of your closest friends. It's just not fun. Hope it is for you though!
Seriously man? Seriously?
Your guild did this for five fucking years, straight. Who the fuck permafarms Kunark for four and a half years; especially knowing the gear is total garbage once Velious releases?
Oh, that's right....people who're selling their Trak BPs and VP loot rights then using the plat to supply RMTers, thats who!
Champion_Standing
05-26-2015, 11:43 AM
Seriously man? Seriously?
Your guild did this for five fucking years, straight. Who the fuck permafarms Kunark for four and a half years; especially knowing the gear is total garbage once Velious releases?
Oh, that's right....people who're selling their Trak BPs and VP loot rights then using the plat to supply RMTers, thats who!
I lol'd
HalflingWarrior
05-26-2015, 12:04 PM
So the staff bans lots of "big money" accounts, TMO disbands, and suddenly PlatLord's website has no stock of RMT plat.
Coincidence? You'll have to decide for yourselves!!!
rubinoff
05-26-2015, 12:17 PM
Like I said before, 1k Kunark pre 2013 was short lived. By the time IB RMT'd off the server in 2011, the pop was around 600 and dipped as low as 450 in 2012.
Server was 1200+ in 2015/mid-late 2014 long before Velious was announced, with Kunark dragging on and on into its 4th year and beyond.
So I'm not sure what you attribute the pop growth to if it wasn't the epic trust-busting.
But you must have a more plausible explanation for the higher pop, right?
QFT... It seems like peoples memories of the server pop at peak times is a bit fuzzy. Lune is spot on.
Ravager
05-26-2015, 12:46 PM
QFT... It seems like peoples memories of the server pop at peak times is a bit fuzzy. Lune is spot on.
Alarti rewrites history to fit his narrative.
HalflingWarrior
05-26-2015, 12:55 PM
It was a long road to domination. Most forget that. We started with 12 guys and raided for months before we could keep up with the top guilds pre-kunark. It took a few merges along the way and lots of recruiting.
The competition was fun and road to the top is what Everquest is all about. So many skilled players to go up against is what made a game/server like this worth being the best at.
DD
See you narcissists don't realize that you're only the 5%. For the majority of people EverQuest brings back memories of exploring a vast fantasy world and being part of an unprecedented-at-the-time online community.
NOT the 5%'s notions of "we can dominate the server and prevent these casual plebes from getting to maybe see some or the raid encounters they missed during classic."
Its a fucking 15 year old, EMULATED, version of an MMO yet you still can't be bothered to share the content with anyone else. You claim the server isnt srsbusiness to you yet you farm Kunark for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
And if the GMs hadn't changed the raid system you would have permakilled LITERALLY every raid mob in those almost 5 years. Hell looking at the TMO page right now your guild still took about 75% of all raid mobs.
There's little to no actual skill involved in classic ever quest anymore. Again, the games 15 years old and the mobs have been killed LITERALLY tens of thousands of times.
TLDR: Your guild was 5% of the server and consuming 75+% of its endgame content, and you have the audacity to call other people "entitled?" Please.
Seltius
05-26-2015, 01:51 PM
See you narcissists don't realize that you're only the 5%. For the majority of people EverQuest brings back memories of exploring a vast fantasy world and being part of an unprecedented-at-the-time online community.
NOT the 5%'s notions of "we can dominate the server and prevent these casual plebes from getting to maybe see some or the raid encounters they missed during classic."
Its a fucking 15 year old, EMULATED, version of an MMO yet you still can't be bothered to share the content with anyone else. You claim the server isnt srsbusiness to you yet you farm Kunark for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
And if the GMs hadn't changed the raid system you would have permakilled LITERALLY every raid mob in those almost 5 years. Hell looking at the TMO page right now your guild still took about 75% of all raid mobs.
There's little to no actual skill involved in classic ever quest anymore. Again, the games 15 years old and the mobs have been killed LITERALLY tens of thousands of times.
TLDR: Your guild was 5% of the server and consuming 75+% of its endgame content, and you have the audacity to call other people "entitled?" Please.
Starting a petition to change the raid rules again. PoSky is not open for everyone. On live Splack/Gurgel(on Fennin Ro) used to run weekend PoSky raids and there were other people who ran raids on planes and other targets. The unguilded Casuals DEMAND the right to raid PoSky so as of now we will be forming a union to raid sky whenever we have the numbers and see mobs up. These raids will be open to everyone and will usually take place on the weekends. All loot will be rolled upon by usable classes. We will kill all mobs we are capable of killing.
The casual unguilded have spoken!
Look for the petition on Change.org later this week.
Seltius
05-26-2015, 02:01 PM
No but seriously thinking about doing open raids on PoSky and other planes anytime I see them open and spawned.
Figured all the crying about the content while still saying its 15yrs old this thread would be a good place to post.
And no im not talking about TMO running around unguilded stepping on peoples toes I am referring to exactly what your crying about. A chance for anyone guilded or unguilded to see content they want to see. See unlike alot of the people I see on the forums crying and fighting I didnt start playing this game to see end game. I started playing it for the nostalgic value and the chance to catch up with old friends I made before and the chance to meet people I would never meet whether it was demographical or geographical otherwise. Just so happens that out of the communities I am a part of and spend time talking to that TMO was the one I found that played a game I wanted to play again.
The raid scene hasnt improved nearly as much as alot of you claim. The only difference is instead of 1 guild stepping on people you have numerous all crying foul anytime someone else does to them what they do to others. Look at all the raid suspensions and the ones that get cancelled out due to another infraction. Things havent improved nearly as much as you claim. Except that now you get to do to others what was once done to you.
Detoxx
05-26-2015, 02:16 PM
Seriously man? Seriously?
Your guild did this for five fucking years, straight. Who the fuck permafarms Kunark for four and a half years; especially knowing the gear is total garbage once Velious releases?
Oh, that's right....people who're selling their Trak BPs and VP loot rights then using the plat to supply RMTers, thats who!
Thats like saying "why would I but this Samsung Galaxy S5 now when I know there will be an S6 at some point unknown in the future."
Frieza_Prexus
05-26-2015, 02:24 PM
The raid scene hasnt improved nearly as much as alot of you claim. The only difference is instead of 1 guild stepping on people you have numerous all crying foul anytime someone else does to them what they do to others. Look at all the raid suspensions and the ones that get cancelled out due to another infraction. Things havent improved nearly as much as you claim. Except that now you get to do to others what was once done to you.
There are still problems in both classes. Yet, casual gamers are now able to see and meaningfully participate in the end game. This server is a dedicated museum to everquest, and it was a damned shame that the casual was never given the opportunity to participate on a reasonably occasional basis. The whole point of a museum is that the public gets to see the exhibits.
There are still problems, but the creation of a protected class wasn't just a good idea; it was downright decent. Anyone who can't see that is the entitled party.
HalflingWarrior
05-26-2015, 02:24 PM
Thats like saying "why would I but this Samsung Galaxy S5 now when I know there will be an S6 at some point unknown in the future."
No. Its closer to: I'm gonna buy ALL the galaxy S5s so nobody else can have one unless they purchase them through my associates.
Them my associates and I will repeat the process when the S6 velious editions launch. Then again when the S7 upgraded velious edition launches!!!!!!
Cecily
05-26-2015, 02:36 PM
We needed the S5s and the rules allowed us to get them. Not to mention you guys were / are kinda being dicks, so we could let you have some of our s5s, but fuck you.
Uggme
05-26-2015, 02:46 PM
We needed the S5s and the rules allowed us to get them. Not to mention you guys were / are kinda being dicks, so we could let you have some of our s5s, but fuck you.
Can you not see how that's a reallyshitty attitude? It's that kind of cancerous bad attitude that many are happy is finally gone.
God, I hope I never find myself in one of those "The Purge" movies with TMO. Seeing as murder isn't against the rules for 24 hours, I'd be slaughtered for asking for a glass of fucking water from one of you. After all, it's not against the rules!
Samoht
05-26-2015, 02:50 PM
I think Cecily is just having a bad day.
Arteker
05-26-2015, 02:51 PM
Can you not see how that's a reallyshitty attitude? It's that kind of cancerous bad attitude that many are happy is finally gone.
God, I hope I never find myself in one of those "The Purge" movies with TMO. Seeing as murder isn't against the rules for 24 hours, I'd be slaughtered for asking for a glass of fucking water from one of you. After all, it's not against the rules!
i would enjoy it big time
Cecily
05-26-2015, 02:52 PM
Server could use a lower pop tbh.
Cecily
05-26-2015, 02:58 PM
Can you not see how that's a reallyshitty attitude? It's that kind of cancerous bad attitude that many are happy is finally gone.
I can understand that. Just understand that we really didn't like the people were fighting and vice versa. It's kinda like asking Israel to stop taking Palestinian land because it's the right thing to do. Not happening without outside intervention.
Alarti0001
05-26-2015, 03:01 PM
Ravager rewrites history to fit his narrative.
Alarti0001
05-26-2015, 03:01 PM
Thats like saying "why would I but this Samsung Galaxy S5 now when I know there will be an S6 at some point unknown in the future."
Well I just got a galaxy s5 because it was 1 dollar with my upgrade.
Champion_Standing
05-26-2015, 03:05 PM
I can understand that. Just understand that we really didn't like the people were fighting and vice versa. It's kinda like asking Israel to stop taking Palestinian land because it's the right thing to do. Not happening without outside intervention.
Holy Fuck immersion levels still at record highs with this one.
Seltius
05-26-2015, 03:30 PM
There are still problems in both classes. Yet, casual gamers are now able to see and meaningfully participate in the end game. This server is a dedicated museum to everquest, and it was a damned shame that the casual was never given the opportunity to participate on a reasonably occasional basis. The whole point of a museum is that the public gets to see the exhibits.
There are still problems, but the creation of a protected class wasn't just a good idea; it was downright decent. Anyone who can't see that is the entitled party.
I guess I didnt look closely enough to see any of it. I logged in chatted with friends and if I was told to raid showed up to raid. If there was training to be done in VP I did what I could to help. I dont know about you but I have never experienced a batphone though I did experience the wakeup channel sometimes. I dont remember but didnt you raid also during that time you talk about being so horrible for the server? So if that is the case doesnt that make you just as guilty as those you are talking about now? Its easy to be self righteous when no one calls you out for being a hypocrit?
As far as entitled no I dont feel entitled at all my only goal in any of this is to be able to hang with friends and maybe make a few more. Who knows one day I may run for president and need them to vote for me.(not really that was a joke)
Seltius
05-26-2015, 03:34 PM
Can you not see how that's a reallyshitty attitude? It's that kind of cancerous bad attitude that many are happy is finally gone.
God, I hope I never find myself in one of those "The Purge" movies with TMO. Seeing as murder isn't against the rules for 24 hours, I'd be slaughtered for asking for a glass of fucking water from one of you. After all, it's not against the rules!
I would give you water and then give you a place to hide man.
Honestly the attitude isnt gone its hiding behind the guise of playing nice people in the raid scene are still trying to find loopholes in the rules that now apply and pushing to see how far they can go before they get raid suspended. It is just spread out among guilds now so 1 guild isnt getting all the raid suspensions. If it isnt a class C guild that is doing it then its a class R guild.
Frieza_Prexus
05-26-2015, 03:43 PM
but didnt you raid also during that time you talk about being so horrible for the server? So if that is the case doesnt that make you just as guilty as those you are talking about now? Its easy to be self righteous when no one calls you out for being a hypocrit?
I raided that entire time. For many months. With a 50%ish attendance rate.
The issue was that the rules of the server did not enable casuals to ever experience the end game on any level. The rules have been changed so that hardcores can continue to do what they want to do and casuals are now allowed to experience the game at no real cost to the hardcore. It's literally a win/win situation. Yes, there are problems. A lot of them.
But everyone's lot has improved since the server has protected the casual. If anyone says that casuals deserve not even the barest of consideration or protection, then I am calling that person entitled. Nothing more. Nothing less.
HalflingWarrior
05-26-2015, 04:15 PM
I can understand that. Just understand that we really didn't like the people were fighting and vice versa. It's kinda like asking Israel to stop taking Palestinian land because it's the right thing to do. Not happening without outside intervention.
Comparing thousands of years old religious tensions over a single holy land to P99 guild drama. This basically sums up the P99 raiding scene sadly
Ella`Ella
05-26-2015, 04:33 PM
Thats like saying "why would I but this Samsung Galaxy S5 now when I know there will be an S6 at some point unknown in the future."
Get the fuck off my group chat with your green text bullshit.
Cecily
05-26-2015, 04:34 PM
Comparing thousands of years old religious tensions over a single holy land to P99 guild drama. This basically sums up the P99 raiding scene sadly
I mean the time frame is different, but if you waited awhile... Yes.
HalflingWarrior
05-26-2015, 05:31 PM
I mean the time frame is different, but if you waited awhile... Yes.
So fucking sad. Go dedicate your hatred to a real cause or something
Seltius
05-26-2015, 06:01 PM
There are still problems in both classes. Yet, casual gamers are now able to see and meaningfully participate in the end game. This server is a dedicated museum to everquest, and it was a damned shame that the casual was never given the opportunity to participate on a reasonably occasional basis. The whole point of a museum is that the public gets to see the exhibits.
There are still problems, but the creation of a protected class wasn't just a good idea; it was downright decent. Anyone who can't see that is the entitled party.
I am pointing out how hypocritical your being. Its like crying on the playground that bullying shouldn't be allowed then stealing some kids lunch money. How long did you play in this sandbox prior to 2012? That's when I started and as one of probably several I played in the sandbox as the rules you and other players had set at the time allowed. Hell yes if I was asked to train in VP I trained in VP. Because that is what you and other guildmates needed of me. Did I enjoy it ill say I had fun running the mobs back and forth but I felt really bad about almost anyone who died to those trains friend or rival alike. I didn't get upset when they killed me with a train either that was part of the game. It was fun to see if I could survive a pack of crazed dragonspawn and players alike.
Yet you sit there calling myself and others the villains while reaping the rewards of that villainy for years. If you didn't like it you should have said 'hai guys I cannot raid due to this is evil.' Or left or just gone into retirement like so many other great players have done over the years.
Should the rules have changed maybe? But vilifying players that their only crime was taking what was available and enjoying it however and for whatever reason is dumb. If you weren't willing to compete then sure do what you have to do to win the game. Change the rules if that is the only way but pat yourself on the back and move on.
The posts and vitriol in this forum and game is unhealthy for anyone.
Darkdeathx
05-26-2015, 06:43 PM
See you narcissists don't realize that you're only the 5%. For the majority of people EverQuest brings back memories of exploring a vast fantasy world and being part of an unprecedented-at-the-time online community.
NOT the 5%'s notions of "we can dominate the server and prevent these casual plebes from getting to maybe see some or the raid encounters they missed during classic."
Its a fucking 15 year old, EMULATED, version of an MMO yet you still can't be bothered to share the content with anyone else. You claim the server isnt srsbusiness to you yet you farm Kunark for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
And if the GMs hadn't changed the raid system you would have permakilled LITERALLY every raid mob in those almost 5 years. Hell looking at the TMO page right now your guild still took about 75% of all raid mobs.
There's little to no actual skill involved in classic ever quest anymore. Again, the games 15 years old and the mobs have been killed LITERALLY tens of thousands of times.
TLDR: Your guild was 5% of the server and consuming 75+% of its endgame content, and you have the audacity to call other people "entitled?" Please.
I am philosopher by education, I view all people equal & try to see things from as many points of view as I can imagine. However, I play a competitive games like EQ P99 EMU for the competition. From the sounds of what your saying, you would be much happier playing EQ2 or other games instances where everyone can kill all the end content. Do you want to play a competitive game or not... I think your playing the wrong game & your numbers, timelines and %s make no sense. Also where do you get your stats from? Oh yea you made them up. Keep trying hater.
DD
Detoxx
05-26-2015, 06:51 PM
Get the fuck off my group chat with your green text bullshit.
Fuck that iPhones are garbage. Get a real phone fire giant
Ella`Ella
05-26-2015, 06:54 PM
Fuck that iPhones are garbage. Get a real phone fire giant
ur poor.
Kennie
05-26-2015, 06:57 PM
Iphones are terrible
Archalen
05-26-2015, 07:08 PM
I bought an iphone because Steve Jobs told me it was sexy.
posted from my iphone
Detoxx
05-26-2015, 07:12 PM
ur poor.
My dad can beat up your dad
Clark
05-26-2015, 07:42 PM
I am philosopher by education, I view all people equal & try to see things from as many points of view as I can imagine. However, I play a competitive games like EQ P99 EMU for the competition. From the sounds of what your saying, you would be much happier playing EQ2 or other games instances where everyone can kill all the end content. Do you want to play a competitive game or not... I think your playing the wrong game & your numbers, timelines and %s make no sense. Also where do you get your stats from? Oh yea you made them up. Keep trying hater.
DD
Is this a sick fucking joke of delusion? You were one of the most elitist pricks the server has ever seen.....You literally wouldn't even take 2 minutes to take to anyone outside your little click. View all people equal? Smfh.
Clark
05-26-2015, 07:44 PM
to talk to anyone*
Ravager
05-26-2015, 07:45 PM
I am philosopher by education, I view all people equal & try to see things from as many points of view as I can imagine. However, I play a competitive games like EQ P99 EMU for the competition. From the sounds of what your saying, you would be much happier playing EQ2 or other games instances where everyone can kill all the end content. Do you want to play a competitive game or not... I think your playing the wrong game & your numbers, timelines and %s make no sense. Also where do you get your stats from? Oh yea you made them up. Keep trying hater.
DD
It's a RPG, not a FPS or RTS. If you want competition, you're playing the wrong game.
Obliterator
05-26-2015, 08:20 PM
Is this a sick fucking joke of delusion? You were one of the most elitist pricks the server has ever seen.....You literally wouldn't even take 2 minutes to take to anyone outside your little click. View all people equal? Smfh.
Unfortunately you have an inferiority complex. You need to go to Values.com and register for the forums there.
Clark
05-26-2015, 08:22 PM
Who are you Obliterator lol. Talking smack, and only 10 posts since 2010. Step down fool.
Tiggles
05-26-2015, 08:40 PM
Unfortunately you have an inferiority complex. You need to go to Values.com and register for the forums there.
Who are you Obliterator lol. Talking smack, and only 10 posts since 2010. Step down fool.
indiscriminate_hater
05-26-2015, 08:42 PM
thread rapidly approaching 100 pages of retardation. gogogo
Frieza_Prexus
05-26-2015, 09:03 PM
I am pointing out how hypocritical your being. Its like crying on the playground that bullying shouldn't be allowed then stealing some kids lunch money. How long did you play in this sandbox prior to 2012?
September of 2010. If I feel that the speed limit should be lowered, is it wrong for me to travel at the currently posted limit? I never said that people who killed everything were wrong. I helped do it for years. I said that it would be a good idea to change the system into a win/win for all parties casual and hardcore alike.
Yet you sit there calling myself and others the villains while reaping the rewards of that villainy for years. If you didn't like it you should have said 'hai guys I cannot raid due to this is evil.' Or left or just gone into retirement like so many other great players have done over the years.
I am not vilifying people for operating within the rules. Please point out where I have done so. I said only that anyone who is against casuals having the occasional chance to experience the end game is entitled.
It's not ethically obligatory to enable casuals to experience the end game; it is, however, commendable to do so. It's a courtesy that has ultimately cost Class C nothing. Any one who is against such a win/win has a problem. I stand by my initial statement.
I kindly suggest you reread my posts as I have not laid out any of the "vitriol" you're accusing me of. I am merely stating that people who keep others down when it does themselves no benefit have a problem.
Change the rules if that is the only way
It was the only way, and I've done my best to help accomplish exactly that.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103633
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133596
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161722
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172491
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=834140&postcount=1394
Don't accuse me of something I haven't done.
Cecily
05-26-2015, 09:22 PM
Xasten is the nicest, most polite, and well spoken person we have representing TMO. Seltius, pick a better person to fight with.
Seltius
05-26-2015, 09:24 PM
I kindly suggest you reread my posts as I have not laid out any of the "vitriol" you're accusing me of.
That wasn't directed at you specifically it was these boards this forum and as a whole when people are targeting others. I have been guilty of it and was called on it.
You are and will always be a hypocrite and its not something worth wishing would change. You rode the TMO train right over every casual raider right along with the rest of us. For however long you were just as much a part of the problem. That you stated should be changed. So congratulations you reaped the rewards of a system you state was flawed and while I agree that maybe there were changes that needed to be made. You are and never have been the white knight fighting for the underdog you seem to pretend to be. You just played forumquest differently from everquest.
Anyway I never came here originally to say anything to you. I came here to say hi to friends I hadn't spoken with in over a year.
quido
05-26-2015, 09:29 PM
Seltius shut the fuck up you retard.
Freakish
05-26-2015, 09:37 PM
You can't call people names here anymore. Inc ban.
Darkdeathx
05-26-2015, 10:22 PM
Is this a sick fucking joke of delusion? You were one of the most elitist pricks the server has ever seen.....You literally wouldn't even take 2 minutes to take to anyone outside your little click. View all people equal? Smfh.
Clark, your calling me elitist? Look at how you just spoke to Obliterator, a guy who rarely posts here but has been a long time player of the game.
Who are you Obliterator lol. Talking smack, and only 10 posts since 2010. Step down fool.
You sound elitist. lol.
TMO was run by the guild leader and officers who started the guild. We added to the officers as needed, when we merged or if someone stepped up and showed they had what it took. There was no click, you just weren't a part of TMO so you don't understand how things worked.
DD
PS, I took more than 2 mins to type this ;)
Darkdeathx
05-26-2015, 10:35 PM
It's a RPG, not a FPS or RTS. If you want competition, you're playing the wrong game.
Raid targets, epics and rare items should just be given to everyone then in instances like EQ2 & other games. EQ was an RPG with quests and a competitive raid scene since the original game on live.
Players enjoy beating competition in an RPG, it makes winning more fun. Its what drove this server to such a fiercely competitive state. It takes more than 1 guild to compete and there were epic raids that just wouldn't have been as fun to win/lose without having opposition. Also this competitive RPG created guilds on live back in the day like FoH and LoS who paved the way through the game for a lot of players on other servers. It was a race always to reach the end game, get that loot & win over the competition.
DD
Raid targets, epics and rare items should just be given to everyone then in instances like EQ2 & other games. EQ was an RPG with quests and a competitive raid scene since the original game on live.
Players enjoy beating competition in an RPG, it makes winning more fun. Its what drove this server to such a fiercely competitive state. It takes more than 1 guild to compete and there were epic raids that just wouldn't have been as fun to win/lose without having opposition. Also this competitive RPG created guilds on live back in the day like FoH and LoS who paved the way through the game for a lot of players on other servers. It was a race always to reach the end game, get that loot & win over the competition.
DD
Lots of people enjoy competing for prizes, only a small subset enjoys gleefully shitting up the environment to ensure that they can be kings of their little molehill day after day, week after week, year after year, and they feel entitled to do so and throw temper tantrums when they're prevented. IRL, people like that and/or their descendants often end up with an appointment at the guillotine. On p99 we are kinder and gentler than RL, so instead we point and laugh and call them "class C".
slydexx
05-26-2015, 11:11 PM
It's clique
Learn to fight using the correct words
It makes you cool!
slydexx
05-26-2015, 11:14 PM
PS
Fuck you Fattyfatty
Love
Sly
That wasn't directed at you specifically it was these boards this forum and as a whole when people are targeting others. I have been guilty of it and was called on it.
You are and will always be a hypocrite and its not something worth wishing would change. You rode the TMO train right over every casual raider right along with the rest of us. For however long you were just as much a part of the problem. That you stated should be changed. So congratulations you reaped the rewards of a system you state was flawed and while I agree that maybe there were changes that needed to be made. You are and never have been the white knight fighting for the underdog you seem to pretend to be. You just played forumquest differently from everquest.
Anyway I never came here originally to say anything to you. I came here to say hi to friends I hadn't spoken with in over a year.
Thing is he never really fought for the underdog, he was able to applaud the raid reform without simultaneously incriminating old TMO as a bunch of robber barons through careful use of language. Xasten is something else. 10/10 would hire as my lawyer
Doesn't mean the dude wasn't wrapped up in something that caused a lot of problems for the staff and basically ruined the server for a whole lot of people for a long time. But it takes a huge nerd to hold an actual grudge over something like that. I was a part of it too after all, lols
DetroitVelvetSmooth
05-27-2015, 01:05 AM
100 pages of reasons to avoid tmo at all costs inc
quido
05-27-2015, 01:18 AM
Other than chopping it up with some homies, train wars is the most fun I ever had on blue. Don't knock it until you've tried it. The threshold for successful guildwide organization and execution is much higher than normal EQ PvE. A few months ago I was really tempted to try to setup some off-night train wars in VP for whoever wanted to participate - captains choosing teams or whatever. It wouldn't be quite the same without the dragons up, but it would certainly be a lot of fun.
Schwing
05-27-2015, 01:33 AM
Other than chopping it up with some homies, train wars is the most fun I ever had on blue. Don't knock it until you've tried it. The threshold for successful guildwide organization and execution is much higher than normal EQ PvE. A few months ago I was really tempted to try to setup some off-night train wars in VP for whoever wanted to participate - captains choosing teams or whatever. It wouldn't be quite the same without the dragons up, but it would certainly be a lot of fun.
haha lol so funny
Lojik
05-27-2015, 01:37 AM
Do you eat imitation crab meat during train wars?
quido
05-27-2015, 01:39 AM
I love that stuff
Clark
05-27-2015, 01:46 AM
Clark, your calling me elitist? Look at how you just spoke to Obliterator, a guy who rarely posts here but has been a long time player of the game.
You sound elitist. lol.
TMO was run by the guild leader and officers who started the guild. We added to the officers as needed, when we merged or if someone stepped up and showed they had what it took. There was no click, you just weren't a part of TMO so you don't understand how things worked.
DD
PS, I took more than 2 mins to type this ;)
First off I do not sound elitist; I was responding back to this retard with 10 posts thinking he knows me when he has only posted 10 times. He obviously is full of shit.
Second you are elitist dude. You never responded to tells if you weren't buddy buddy with someone. Even when you did you'd have ass conversations. I also respond to tells from anyone in game always. Far from elitist and the majority of my game time is spent buffing/free PLing/free iteming to folks. So step you ass back in line 1.5yr ghost.
Clark
05-27-2015, 01:49 AM
People who half ass conversations, and don't act the same way toward everyone in game are elitist. I'll cut you some slack because you've been gone a really long time, but you were never someone who held up a good conversation in game if you weren't besties with the person. This guy tryna act like he has a heart after abandoning his guild for almost 2 years and comes back talking like he didn't miss a beat. I don't really have much beef with you, you speak well, it's just totally ridiculous to claim you weren't an elitist. Maybe you've changed your gameplay attitude between then and now though.
quido
05-27-2015, 01:51 AM
Autism
Clark
05-27-2015, 01:54 AM
Yes you know you have Autism Mr. I listen to Bob Dylan type music.
My cognitive advancement, and social skills are lightyears beyond your pissprick attitude and style.
Clark
05-27-2015, 01:56 AM
So sick of your watered down shit Jeremy.
quido
05-27-2015, 01:56 AM
You are so developed.
Clark
05-27-2015, 01:57 AM
You are so corny.
Cecily
05-27-2015, 02:01 AM
First off I do not sound elitist; I was responding back to this retard with 10 posts
Ahaha
quido
05-27-2015, 02:10 AM
Yes you know you have Autism Mr. I listen to Bob Dylan type music.
My cognitive advancement, and social skills are lightyears beyond your pissprick attitude and style.
What's with the Bob Dylan thing? Not that I'd expect an autist such as yourself to remember, but you must have missed my numerous posts decrying song lyrics as stupid.
I heard this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMNHIDMvvg) song once when I was on psychedelics and laughed my ass off. It's my only Bob Dylan experience - I usually listen to electric guitar porn (at this point fusion - no stupid words in it) or 19th century classical piano. So you're going to have to find something else I'm into that you don't deem worthy to insult me. I also enjoy cooking, sports, and trivia - have your pick.
Was it because I set a couple EQ videos to Ween? Did you peg Ween as Bob Dylan type music? Autism.
Alarti0001
05-27-2015, 02:18 AM
First off I do not sound elitist; I was responding back to this retard with 10 posts thinking he knows me when he has only posted 10 times. He obviously is full of shit.
Second you are elitist dude.
My cognitive advancement, and social skills are lightyears beyond your pissprick attitude and style.
The turmoil in this delusional brain is real.
I woke up one morning a few weeks ago and tried to find that Ween VP training video. I had to hear it for some reason. Couldn't find it :(
quido
05-27-2015, 02:30 AM
Yeah it's weird, somehow my Youtube channel got split in two. All my stuff from before a certain time shows under the channel JeremyIronsVideo's Channel. Now it just says Jeremy Irons. I wish I could easily merge the two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMNHIDMvvg
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:30 AM
The turmoil in my loyalty and trolling is real.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:31 AM
Also Jeremy when you used to twitch stream you listened to Bob Dylan type music why are you denying this?
quido
05-27-2015, 02:33 AM
Read what Alarti just quoted, Clark. Your autism knows no bounds.
I know people like you - people who are too damn retarded to realize that they're retarded. Most of these sorts just carry on and try to never let on that they know how awkward they are, but I know that somewhere in the back of your defective brain you know exactly how fucked up you are.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:37 AM
You've obviously never been in Vent with me man you're fucking dirty man. You don't know shit about me.
Also your insults are meager at best. You think people like you Jeremy; they don't. You, Tiggles, Alarti, and Houndstooth all have a distorted view on reality and what it means to be a good person. Fucking worthless.
quido
05-27-2015, 02:38 AM
First off I do not sound elitist; I was responding back to this retard with 10 posts thinking he knows me when he has only posted 10 times. He obviously is full of shit.
Second you are elitist dude.
My cognitive advancement, and social skills are lightyears beyond your pissprick attitude and style.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:42 AM
News flash.
Jeremy tries his hardest to be entertaining and witty, but fails. He is convinced that his view is a majority view. Fueled by internet slander, delusions, and lack of irl gratification.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:42 AM
Also fueled by Bob Dylan music.
quido
05-27-2015, 02:46 AM
I tend to go against the grain, but there seems to be an all-around consensus that you are retarded, Clark.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:46 AM
No that is a bogus consensus you, Tiggles, Alarti, Houndstooth, and maybe three other people are obsessed with. Fucking nerds bro.
Halfelfbard
05-27-2015, 02:48 AM
The worst music I ever heard in my life was a twitch by redgar i think?...and Zagum wanted some Japanese rock/techno type bullshit...it was quickly switched.
quido
05-27-2015, 02:50 AM
Everyone I know in TMO agrees - your own guildmates.
Have you ever actually gotten positive feedback from anyone for the stupid shit you say?
Top 5% most suave autists of all time
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:50 AM
Anyone who doesn't like me is basically an idiot. 95% of this server has an awesome community, well spoken people who are respectful to one another in nearly every situation, and people who aren't out to spew bull shit everywhere. You guys just have a predetermined thought process of being supreme ass holes. The handful of people I listed are all ass holes, and just lump sum consensus the opinions of a handful of trolls together thinking it is the view of many. Get real retard.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:51 AM
Anyone who even speaks to you should be deguilded you're a piece of shit bro.
quido
05-27-2015, 02:52 AM
Is that right?
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:55 AM
It's spot on. People should not associate with you. You're a unloyal mega troll who doesn't even have good taste. You live to be an ass hole on the forums to anyone you can, and guildhop like crazy.
Clark
05-27-2015, 02:55 AM
Not to mention your avatar makes you look twenty times dumber.
quido
05-27-2015, 02:59 AM
jeez you're not pulling any punches here, sheesh
DetroitVelvetSmooth
05-27-2015, 04:44 AM
I listen to Bob Dylan type music.
My cognitive advancement, and social skills are lightyears beyond your pissprick attitude and style.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - better than the young doctor - You''re guild is the worst place on the internet. Keep it up sperglords
Alarti0001
05-27-2015, 09:06 AM
Anyone who doesn't like me is basically an idiot.
It's a rare day when you get to watch a person lose his mind, live on the internet.
Keep posting
Champion_Standing
05-27-2015, 09:16 AM
Raid targets, epics and rare items should just be given to everyone then in instances like EQ2 & other games. EQ was an RPG with quests and a competitive raid scene since the original game on live.
Players enjoy beating competition in an RPG, it makes winning more fun. Its what drove this server to such a fiercely competitive state. It takes more than 1 guild to compete and there were epic raids that just wouldn't have been as fun to win/lose without having opposition. Also this competitive RPG created guilds on live back in the day like FoH and LoS who paved the way through the game for a lot of players on other servers. It was a race always to reach the end game, get that loot & win over the competition.
DD
Sry bro but everyone is actively losing in EQ at times, all you can do is attempt to slow down or limit the amount of losing you do by playing less.
Samoht
05-27-2015, 09:28 AM
First off I do not sound elitist.
this retard with 10 posts thinking he knows me when he has only posted 10 times. He obviously is full of shit.
Sorry, the hypocrisy in this one made me LOL. This is seriously from the same paragraph. How is judging someone by their total post count not considered elitist?
Anyone who doesn't like me is basically an idiot.
I'm pretty sure that you're the only person on this server who doesn't not like you at this point. Why don't you go corpse some Bob Dylan records? I hear they're lore now.
Not to mention your avatar makes you look twenty times dumber.
While we're judging forum avatars, how about an action shot of a Steelers vs Browns game that's too resized to actually make anything out. That seems like a pretty dumb avatar to me.
Alarti0001
05-27-2015, 09:37 AM
Sorry, the hypocrisy in this one made me LOL. This is seriously from the same paragraph. How is judging someone by their total post count not considered elitist?
I'm pretty sure that you're the only person on this server who doesn't not like you at this point. Why don't you go corpse some Bob Dylan records? I hear they're lore now.
While we're judging forum avatars, how about an action shot of a Steelers vs Browns game that's too resized to actually make anything out. That seems like a pretty dumb avatar to me.
You know you suck if the Alpha and Omega Clooneys can agree.
Llodd
05-27-2015, 09:39 AM
Other than chopping it up with some homies, train wars is the most fun I ever had on blue. Don't knock it until you've tried it. The threshold for successful guildwide organization and execution is much higher than normal EQ PvE. A few months ago I was really tempted to try to setup some off-night train wars in VP for whoever wanted to participate - captains choosing teams or whatever. It wouldn't be quite the same without the dragons up, but it would certainly be a lot of fun.
I really wish you would so you could see how few people are actually interested in this. how many people actually got to participate in the nitty gritty of train wars? Yeah not many at all. It'smostly a selfish 'pleasure' that you enjoyed so much; which is a reflection on you.
Cecily
05-27-2015, 09:45 AM
You had fun with something I never got to experience and are therefore a bad person?
Uggme
05-27-2015, 09:52 AM
We've all experienced "Train Wars" before. This game is 15 years old. You'd have to have some serious alt-itis to have never gone into a raid and experienced a train.
It's never fun, except maybe for the person dropping the train on a raid. And even then that person would need to be a pretty terrible person to get enjoyment out of the misery of others.
/glares at Jeremy
So Yea, Llodd is spot on here.
Tiggles
05-27-2015, 10:01 AM
Clark is upset that the future is coming and it has no place for him.
He's currently posting on the TMO boards trying to get my gkicked in a thread mourning the passing of a member.
He's gone insane.
Ella`Ella
05-27-2015, 10:58 AM
I went to the chat. There was no Tiggles - I left.
Kennie
05-27-2015, 12:11 PM
While we're judging forum avatars, how about an action shot of a Steelers vs Browns game that's too resized to actually make anything out. That seems like a pretty dumb avatar to me.
Clark's avatar is Antonio Brown kicking the Brown's punter in the face from a return last year. Just saying.
Samoht
05-27-2015, 12:13 PM
Clark's avatar is Antonio Brown kicking the Brown's punter in the face from a return last year. Just saying.
And only a Steelers fan or Browns fan would be able to determine from the crappy quality of the ultra-small men in the picture.
Kennie
05-27-2015, 12:27 PM
And only a Steelers fan or Browns fan would be able to determine from the crappy quality of the ultra-small men in the picture.I'm a bills fan. I just know player numbers.
Seltius
05-27-2015, 01:22 PM
I'm a bills fan. I just know player numbers.
Kennie I just wanted to say I love your monks name. I am hungry now though I think I will ask the owner of the restaurant next time if its made with real iksar. I just need to have my phone recording her expression when I ask.
quido
05-27-2015, 01:28 PM
We've all experienced "Train Wars" before. This game is 15 years old. You'd have to have some serious alt-itis to have never gone into a raid and experienced a train.
It's never fun, except maybe for the person dropping the train on a raid. And even then that person would need to be a pretty terrible person to get enjoyment out of the misery of others.
/glares at Jeremy
So Yea, Llodd is spot on here.
There's this thing called "train defense" that we teach people so they can derail trains instead of being annihilated by them. Train wars in VP aren't like the trains you've seen before.
Kennie
05-27-2015, 01:30 PM
Kennie I just wanted to say I love your monks name. I am hungry now though I think I will ask the owner of the restaurant next time if its made with real iksar. I just need to have my phone recording her expression when I ask.:D
Uggme
05-27-2015, 02:45 PM
There's this thing called "train defense" that we teach people so they can derail trains instead of being annihilated by them. Train wars in VP aren't like the trains you've seen before.
Whatever helps you sleep better at night, man.
quido
05-27-2015, 02:50 PM
A former GM-instituted non-CSR policy in the game's most competitive zone is a reason I should be losing sleep?
central scrutinizer
05-27-2015, 03:32 PM
What the hell is "Bob Dylan" music?
central scrutinizer
05-27-2015, 03:39 PM
There's this thing called "train defense" that we teach people so they can derail trains instead of being annihilated by them. Train wars in VP aren't like the trains you've seen before.
Nothing compared to trains in places like Plane of Earth, and VT.
I killed over 130 people in seconds in POE once, and bugged the zone to the point that multiple versions of the events spawned.
A well-placed RoV trigger on an unsuspecting raid is also awesome.
And st/kael trains...Longer build up time then a vp train, but when they finally arrive...
Soon enough you will see some insane trains that will amuse you more then a vp train ever could. lvl a chanter if you haven't already.
SamwiseRed
05-27-2015, 03:44 PM
Nothing compared to trains in places like Plane of Earth, and VT.
I killed over 130 people in seconds in POE once, and bugged the zone to the point that multiple versions of the events spawned.
A well-placed RoV trigger on an unsuspecting raid is also awesome.
And st/kael trains...Longer build up time then a vp train, but when they finally arrive...
Soon enough you will see some insane trains that will amuse you more then a vp train ever could. lvl a chanter if you haven't already.
pm the deets on dem velious trains naw mean. jk i would never do such a thing.
or would i?
Uggme
05-27-2015, 03:47 PM
Sociopaths. All of you.
Champion_Standing
05-27-2015, 03:51 PM
Sociopaths. All of you.
Cecily
05-27-2015, 04:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wyICpvi.jpg
Merekai
05-27-2015, 06:15 PM
What the fuck is wrong with liking Bob Dylan? Can we please stay focused on the personal attacks regarding lowered mental acuity/lack of social skills/deathpackets IRL/elitist attitudes and leave ones choice of music alone? I feel like more energy could be focused on better visualizing the myriad of posters in this thread who hurl insults at Jeremy, who hurl insults at Clark, or are equitable in their distribution of insults. Would a venn diagram be appropriate?
Chevey
nyclin
05-27-2015, 06:39 PM
only college kids and burnt out dads like bob dylan hth
Xerxes
05-27-2015, 06:55 PM
Wtb train wars best times ever
Ravager
05-27-2015, 08:06 PM
only college kids and burnt out dads like bob dylan hth
It's better than country, hip-hop, techno, pop and whatever other stupid shit kids are listening to these days.
Merekai
05-27-2015, 08:08 PM
only college kids and burnt out dads like bob dylan hth
Your generalization failed to include me. Try again.
Chev
quido
05-27-2015, 08:29 PM
bob dylan sings about spanish leather all the time just like jewel is always singing about breakfast
It's better than country, hip-hop, techno, pop and whatever other stupid shit kids are listening to these days.
Damn those punk kids anyway! Make 'em listen to some real music, Billie Holiday and Aretha Franklin will put some hair on their chests..
Ravager
05-27-2015, 09:25 PM
Damn those punk kids anyway! Make 'em listen to some real music, Billie Holiday and Aretha Franklin will put some hair on their chests..
Those kids wouldn't recognize a melody if they heard one.
Pokesan
05-27-2015, 10:03 PM
this hate for current popular music is straight up youtube comments from 2008
get over it grandpa
Ravager
05-27-2015, 10:07 PM
this hate for current popular music is straight up youtube comments from 2008
get over it grandpa
My $30 Casio keyboard on demo mode that I had in the 80's played better music than anything you listen to.
Clark
05-27-2015, 10:28 PM
It's better than country, hip-hop, techno, pop and whatever other stupid shit kids are listening to these days.
Bob Dylan is trash music.
Ella`Ella
05-27-2015, 10:29 PM
Bob Dylan is trash music.
You gotta slow down, man. You're bottoming out fast and it's getting hard to white knight for you.
Lojik
05-27-2015, 10:31 PM
What's wrong with songs about breakfast...it's the most important meal of the day
quido
05-27-2015, 10:31 PM
If it wasn't for Unbrella, Clark would have been kicked out of TMO a year ago for attempting to falsify his presence at raids for attendance.
Thanks a lot, jerk.
Magifyre
05-28-2015, 07:46 AM
I'm sad I didn't get a chance to experience this server before it went to shit. I wanted to play classic Everquest not P99 Lawyerquest where the judge jury and executioner are biased GMs who don't even try to hide their favoritism. Truly, it's no wonder nearly every talented player has already moved on.
Uggme
05-28-2015, 08:14 AM
I'm sad I didn't get a chance to experience this server before it went to shit. I wanted to play classic Everquest not P99 Lawyerquest where the judge jury and executioner are biased GMs who don't even try to hide their favoritism. Truly, it's no wonder nearly every talented player has already moved on.
Where did this random shit come from? I'm all for calling out TMO for their nonsense, but this is just dumb.
The server isn't shit. The GMs are generally fair.
Please take off the tinfoil hat.
Cecily
05-28-2015, 08:21 AM
Naw.. the server is pretty shitty now.
Detoxx
05-28-2015, 11:58 AM
Naw.. the server is pretty shitty now.
JonnyX
05-28-2015, 12:29 PM
Naw.. the server is pretty shitty now.
Uggme
05-28-2015, 12:34 PM
And yet here you negative nitwits are, on the boards still. If ya think things are so bad then please, rid us of your stupidity. The best thing TMO did was leave the server. Leaving the forums is the next step.
You folks don't half ass anything right? Then finish what you started and get out.
JonnyX
05-28-2015, 12:35 PM
To much GM intervention and almost no player accountability in sorting their own shit out with each other. Staff needs to stop babysitting and let the server actually be classic again. On live if u petitioned and got a response in a week, it was glorious...by that time you had already sorted your own problem out 99% of the time tho unless it was a item vanishing or something. Petitioning, lawyerquesting, etc before even attempting to talk to the other parties on here and relying on the staff to play mediator is outta control.
Nirgon
05-28-2015, 12:46 PM
leave the ToV desynch / leapfrog fest before it even starts
come to red
Ravager
05-28-2015, 12:58 PM
To much GM intervention and almost no player accountability in sorting their own shit out with each other. Staff needs to stop babysitting and let the server actually be classic again. On live if u petitioned and got a response in a week, it was glorious...by that time you had already sorted your own problem out 99% of the time tho unless it was a item vanishing or something. Petitioning, lawyerquesting, etc before even attempting to talk to the other parties on here and relying on the staff to play mediator is outta control.
Scroll down a little and you will find exactly the server you want to play. They'd be glad for the company too.
Tasslehofp99
05-28-2015, 04:54 PM
Where did this random shit come from? I'm all for calling out TMO for their nonsense, but this is just dumb.
The server isn't shit. The GMs are generally fair.
Please take off the tinfoil hat.
Server rules now dictate what spells you can and can't use while raiding. Gone too far, not classic.
Ravager
05-28-2015, 05:12 PM
Server rules now dictate what spells you can and can't use while raiding. Gone too far, not classic.
Cooperation between guilds was classic. TMO never cooperated, at least not without the threat of a suspension looming. TMO is not classic.
Alarti0001
05-28-2015, 05:13 PM
Cooperation between guilds was classic. TMO never cooperated, at least not without the threat of a suspension looming. TMO is not classic.
Non-cooperation between guilds was also classic. TMO is classic.
Try harder
qinsteel
05-28-2015, 05:40 PM
After reading this entire thread; to everyone who contributed, this is going on your "Permanent Record"
Oh crap it just went on mine!
Nordenwatch
05-28-2015, 06:03 PM
Nah Ambrotos , see below for the reason I got banned! Or at least what the staff said.
This is their response to my petition :
Basically, at some point in 2013 when I bought a prenerf fungi staff from this guy that I gave to Tortue, which anyone who was TMO at the time would remember. They isolated the reimbursement and ignored the previous trade minutes before where I received the item. And they decided to ban my account for it. Wtg p99 staff, keepin it real.
Why did Zeelot get banned for this? I acquired that staff legitimately through an account sale which was legal at the time. The guy i got it from stole it from platlord but that's irrelevant... did they actually just ban everyone down the chain?
If so, my apologies Zeelot. Kind of hilarious that I inadvertently brought down TMO by getting you banned though haha
Zeelot
05-28-2015, 06:08 PM
Don`t think it has anything to do with banning down the chain Norden! I think they just isolated the second part of the trade and called it RMT because it was a 1 way transfer.
Nordenwatch
05-28-2015, 06:11 PM
so they didn't even bother to check the context of the trade? They would have also seen teleportation get plat from another one of your characters in exchange for the staff, as well as the chat logs saying "gunna switch over to give you the rest"...
P99 players have less rights than Americans
Nordenwatch
05-28-2015, 06:11 PM
If it'll exonerate you, I still have the files. I can send them to the GMs.
Zeelot
05-28-2015, 06:13 PM
Can you PM me what you have too? Would appreciate it dude. Is helpful since I don't have my EQ files. I deleted it all when I quit.
Nordenwatch
05-28-2015, 06:19 PM
Which files are useful? I just ctrl-f-ed my log for "Moneyz" on teleportation and nothing was there but that's understandable since I did not have /log on at all times due to Teleportation sitting in EC almost 100% of the time.
zanderklocke
05-28-2015, 06:41 PM
Hello Nordenwatch
Zeelot
05-28-2015, 06:41 PM
Yeah Logs would be useful. Maybe if you have the other part of the trade then. I think it was with Lightone. don't remember if you traded the staff from teleportation or another char.
Nordenwatch
05-28-2015, 06:49 PM
I actually don't have that logged apparently, but logs can be doctored anyway... the GM's should just check for the date that 2.5 mil transaction occurred and then look at the preceding transaction where the item was actually traded. I believe it was 3.5 mil trade for the staff (Lightone and Teleportation) and then you logged on Moneyz and gave me 2.5 mil.
Hey Zanderr old pal. Thanks for mentioning me every so often in these forums :D
Ravager
05-28-2015, 07:31 PM
Non-cooperation between guilds was also classic. TMO is classic.
Try harder
You're the only one trying here.
Magifyre
05-28-2015, 07:45 PM
To much GM intervention and almost no player accountability in sorting their own shit out with each other. Staff needs to stop babysitting and let the server actually be classic again. On live if u petitioned and got a response in a week, it was glorious...by that time you had already sorted your own problem out 99% of the time tho unless it was a item vanishing or something. Petitioning, lawyerquesting, etc before even attempting to talk to the other parties on here and relying on the staff to play mediator is outta control.
This is pretty much what I feel about the server. It's really not fun basically expecting to be petitioned every encounter because of some trivial nonsensical technicality that breaks one of the stupid backwards rules. The guilty until proven innocent thing is really not a big help either. Never on classic did you EVER need to constantly keep fraps loaded and logs running to have total proof of everything that transpired just so you wouldn't be suspended for trying to play the game. Shit's not classic.
Where did this random shit come from? I'm all for calling out TMO for their nonsense, but this is just dumb.
The server isn't shit. The GMs are generally fair.
Please take off the tinfoil hat.
I'm so very sorry to have hurt the vaginal region of some folks for being retired and posting in this thread once in the last month. But, did you ever stop to think that maybe people check back in on the forums periodically because while we're not happy with the way the server is run, we love classic Everquest, and hope that one day things will return to being classic instead of a communist shit fest run by a tyrannical police state that won't even let the player base play the game as it was designed to be played?
Ravager
05-28-2015, 07:57 PM
Never on classic did you EVER need to constantly keep fraps loaded and logs running to have total proof of everything that transpired just so you wouldn't be suspended for trying to play the game. Shit's not classic.
There's a reason it's like it is here. The prevailing mentality of most of the raiders here is "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen."
Magifyre
05-28-2015, 08:15 PM
There's a reason it's like it is here. The prevailing mentality of most of the raiders here is "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen."
You're begging the question. You're saying these rules are in place because people have adopted the "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." mentality. But the player base has adopted that mentality because of these nonsensical rules being imposed on them. Something can't be the cause for and result of something else. Logical fallacies 101.
You're begging the question. You're saying these rules are in place because people have adopted the "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." mentality. But the player base has adopted that mentality because of these nonsensical rules being imposed on them. Something can't be the cause for and result of something else. Logical fallacies 101.
What? Do you even logic pal? Ravager is spot on. That bullshit "prove it" mentality was already deeply entrenched at the high end when I started raiding here, which was over a year before the raid rules got complicated. And that mentality has created the fucked up situations that have driven evolution of the raid rules since
What? Do you even logic pal? Ravager is spot on. That bullshit "prove it" mentality was already deeply entrenched at the high end when I started raiding here, which was over a year before the raid rules got complicated. And that mentality has created the fucked up situations that have driven evolution of the raid rules since
It's fun to blame TMO for everything, and I've definitely got a seat on that bandwagon, but they had help from time to time. Just because they've done the most damage doesn't mean they're the only vandals at the party.
Magifyre
05-28-2015, 09:43 PM
So if players still claimed "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." in response to rules violations before said rules were in place, then what does "it" represent?
Ravager
05-28-2015, 10:45 PM
You're begging the question. You're saying these rules are in place because people have adopted the "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." mentality. But the player base has adopted that mentality because of these nonsensical rules being imposed on them. Something can't be the cause for and result of something else. Logical fallacies 101.
There is no begging the question. There is no fallacy. For years the GMs turned a blind eye to shit and still would if nobody was frapsing it. My argument is valid and you're an idiot.
Ravager
05-28-2015, 10:47 PM
So if players still claimed "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." in response to rules violations before said rules were in place, then what does "it" represent?
All of the training, KSing and general asshattery that happened before the frapswars. But this is as much as I'm going to spell out for you.
Magifyre
05-28-2015, 11:08 PM
Clear cut circular logic. Worse than an apologist, and this fuck wit has the audacity to talk down to me. Thanks for reminding me of another reason why I don't waste my time with this piece of shit server anymore. If you feel like explaining how you're not employing circular logic by saying that GM's turned a blind eye to activities before they were against their rules, then by all means, shove your foot even further into your mouth.
/popcorn.
Ravager
05-28-2015, 11:45 PM
Clear cut circular logic. Worse than an apologist, and this fuck wit has the audacity to talk down to me. Thanks for reminding me of another reason why I don't waste my time with this piece of shit server anymore. If you feel like explaining how you're not employing circular logic by saying that GM's turned a blind eye to activities before they were against their rules, then by all means, shove your foot even further into your mouth.
/popcorn.
You're too stupid to play here. Got it. Good riddance.
Alarti0001
05-29-2015, 09:05 AM
You're too stupid to play here. Got it. Good riddance.
You get really defensive when you are clearly wrong. (^This was also a logical fallacy btw)
It's better than country, hip-hop, techno, pop and whatever other stupid shit kids are listening to these days.
Most of the kids are listening to big room house, trap and "progressive" house. Not techno. Techno is an actual genre of music, not a blanket term for electronic music you lousy cunt.
Bilbik
05-29-2015, 11:33 AM
Most of the kids are listening to big room house, trap and "progressive" house. Not techno. Techno is an actual genre of noise, not a blanket term for electronic noises you lousy cunt.
Credge
05-29-2015, 09:51 PM
Most of the kids are listening to big room house, trap and "progressive" house. Not techno. Techno is an actual genre of music, not a blanket term for electronic music you lousy cunt.
That's like getting mad about someone calling "sludge metal" "metal".
Heaven forbid someone confuses a bleep with a bloop.
That's like getting mad about someone calling "sludge metal" "metal".
Heaven forbid someone confuses a bleep with a bloop.
Remember that this is RnF. This is exactly the sort of place to get your panties all in a bunch and talk about "genres" as if they have deep and important meaning.
Troubled
05-30-2015, 04:52 AM
Most of the kids are listening to big room house, trap and "progressive" house. Not techno. Techno is an actual genre of music, not a blanket term for electronic music you lousy cunt.
Take your whiny bitch comments to youtube, you fucking frgnt. It's all newfangled techno to us here in the land of 1999.
Portasaurus
05-30-2015, 10:38 AM
Shut up about your dumb music. Phil Collins is the king of music. He plays music in the genre of LIGHT ROCK and he is very good at it.
The end.
Phil Collins & McDonald's have conspired together to doom the human species. In a hundred years we'll be down to just a few million drooling lard bottoms failing at 115 year-old elf sims while listening to lossy recordings of pointless crap. That's when the cockroaches will make their move and take over the planet.
DeathWalking
05-30-2015, 11:20 AM
Phil collins sucks. everyone knows Tobacco is the best band ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GaKK7zphfA
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.q7BvUsH5Ch%2baPeDjSdFPGQ&pid=15.1&P=0
Portasaurus
05-30-2015, 11:25 AM
DW, are you the guy from Tobacco? Mr. Tobacco I believe his name is. It would kind of make sense, actually.
Cecily
05-30-2015, 01:43 PM
Creed sucks! I hate you, and I hate the band you like!
Darkdeathx
05-30-2015, 07:54 PM
I actually don't have that logged apparently, but logs can be doctored anyway... the GM's should just check for the date that 2.5 mil transaction occurred and then look at the preceding transaction where the item was actually traded. I believe it was 3.5 mil trade for the staff (Lightone and Teleportation) and then you logged on Moneyz and gave me 2.5 mil.
:D
We bought a few fungi staffs for different members who were due for a big item with the plat we made from loot we sold in EC tunnel that no one needed. I get the prices we paid mixed up from the different staffs, thx for the info Norden.
DD
Mockba1980
05-31-2015, 05:15 AM
I retired on blue over a year ago, but I am now officially quitting TMO. They are a sorry shell of their former selves and now have taken it upon themselves to absorb just about the most trash group of players ever in an attempt to bolster their ranks. This awful decision, which was arrived at with zero discussion, will alienate tons of good people. I refuse to sit idly and watch as this retarded course of events unfolds. It may not be much, but I have deleted the TMO website in protest of this awful move by the remaining TMO leadership.
Rest in piss, motherfuckers.
http://www.tmoguild.org
lol nice move ! Time for the real TMO !
Lev_Mer
06-10-2015, 04:33 AM
I retired on blue over a year ago, but I am now officially quitting TMO. They are a sorry shell of their former selves and now have taken it upon themselves to absorb just about the most trash group of players ever in an attempt to bolster their ranks. This awful decision, which was arrived at with zero discussion, will alienate tons of good people. I refuse to sit idly and watch as this retarded course of events unfolds. It may not be much, but I have deleted the TMO website in protest of this awful move by the remaining TMO leadership.
Rest in piss, motherfuckers.
http://www.tmoguild.org
Why jeremy our goat was beautiful ... stay strong
Lev_Mer
06-10-2015, 04:37 AM
Jeremy <TMO>
From Hero To Zero... to probably Hero again.
RIP
quido
06-10-2015, 04:47 AM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/darkjeremy.jpg
Magifyre
06-10-2015, 06:37 AM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/darkjeremy.jpg
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