*sigh* You can't win, sometimes. Tanking Monk screws up, blames me for living while t

[Wizardling]

Yep, you just can't win some days.

There I am in Blackburrow at level eight, recently joined up with an uber twinked (by my new on 1999 standards) level nine Monk who I'd been chatting with for the better part of the day, having run across each other farming Blackburrow for quest stuff - fangs, etc.

I'm a Barbarian rogue new on server - my latest alt, after only a few weeks casual play here. I'm untwinked, except for some Bone Legplates handed down by a nice passer by. Just wearing a combination of tattered and leather gear, nothing to write home about.

So - uber twink leads me up to the snake pit, and he's doing great, killing everything in a few seconds with little help from untwinked me. I'm lucky to score more than a few weak hits.

Anyway - uber twink is being uber, but he is taking damage. I'm a wee bit alarmed that he heads into another fight with less than 15% HPs. But hey - he's the uber twink. What do I know in my quest and tailored gear?

Well, uber twink kills the new target, but then somhow draws about four gnolls onto himself. I try to help, but I'm doing bugger all damage, and in a few seconds I'm down to 70% HPs as uber twink kills one, then backs off, and yells "Tank!" at me. Ok, I give it a shot :-D But a couple more seconds and I'm below 50%. Nope, not going to work. With uber twink yelling at me to stay and tank and his HPs in single figues now mobs are back on him, I have cut and run, before I get the low hitpoint speed nerf, and can't get away.

Sorry dude, you were real nice and all, but I aint gonna die and have another long run back from Halas, cause you think I can tank four mobs in tattered and leather for the most part, as a newbie rogue. Yep - he was pissed at me, and let me know in chat in no uncertain terms. Thought I ought to have - in fact could have saved him, and tanked the remaining three mobs. I didn't even bother pointing out to him that he was the one who failed to regen a while - who the heck goes into a fight like that at 15% health?

I'm sure he was a nice guy who was just frustrated by the situation, but people - please don't blame the rogue or any non-FDing (or other method of escape) DPS class, when they cut and run and leave you - the tank to die. You're the tank. Or a class playing at tank. I play tanks, and I don't ask the DPSers or heals to sacrifice themselves for me so I can live a tiny bit longer, and watch us all die. I might still run, after warning everyone else too "ZONE!", but chances are by that point I've enough aggro and low HPs I'm screwed as a tank, unless heals have gone overboard trying to save us, and they get aggro and I can run.

Still, regardless - if I can run and avoid a pointless death in a no-win situation on any class, I'll generally do so. And I'm not sorry, no matter how much you gripe at me. I've been playing EQ for a decade and a half, with gaps for other MMOs. I know a hopeless situation when I see one. Asking a weak untwinked rogue to tank three yellow cons is just that.

The point of my rant is thus: don't blame others when you screw up, and even if it was just bad luck, still don't blame them when they choose to live, when you were going to die anyway. Maybe you'll feel better when everyone dies, but I won't, and neither will anyone else who had the wits to realise it was hopeless, and their corpse would be left in a horrible place.

The best thing to do is stay on my good side - especially as a rogue or invising class, and get me to recover your corpse for you after I escape. I'll gladly do that. More than happy to :-) Chances are doing so will get us back up and running ten times faster than if I have to run back from hell knows where naked, and only then start hide and sneaking to recover our corpses.

[Azure]

Just level 8, aint nobody got time for you pal. Go farm some HQ bear pelts or diseased pelts in q hills, turn em in for the plats.

[Swish]

If you just have a basic dagger to damage with, there's no way you'd ever be able to get those gnolls off.

Probably someone's little brother/son/pet cat who has all the gear but none of the skill.

[Juevento]

More than half the monks on this server are brain dead morons. I guess this is another one for that category.

[thieros]

More than half the monks on this server are brain dead morons. I guess this is another one for that category.

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[Iphice]

More than half the people on this server are brain dead morons. I guess this is another one for that category.

FTFY

[Juevento]

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Bracer is a wunderkind among monks. You would be so lucky to have him in your group.

[Nlaar]

I'm untwinked, except for some Bone Legplates[...]


My favorite part.

[Azure]

I came back and actually re-read OP. You should write an adventure novelization.

[Azure]

Maybe even make it like one of those chose your own story books were you pick an option and jump pages.

[Swish]

Maybe even make it like one of those chose your own story books were you pick an option and jump pages.

A P99 book of that nature...

Someone do it! Set up a kickstarter to get it published ;)

[thieros]

A P99 book of that nature...

Someone do it! Set up a kickstarter to get it published ;)

http://i.imgur.com/sokraXP.gif

not even 1 begging for us to join red reference!

[Glenzig]

I love it. Now every time Swish posts anything everyone's first thought is "but I don't want to join red!", even if its never mentioned. Mission accomplished Swish. You're in their heads.

[Swish]

I love it. Now every time Swish posts anything everyone's first thought is "but I don't want to join red!", even if its never mentioned. Mission accomplished Swish. You're in their heads.

:D

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6np0cVIXV1rthmb0o1_500.gif

[thieros]

Funny you would post an inception gif, because any hope of red is a dream!

Although i saw population count was up to 137! big day!

[PDX0621]

OP, I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. I got b!tched at and told I should quit the game in my early 20's with my warrior by an epic'd, ultra twinked rogue in MM. Guy freaked out when I couldn't hold aggro from him, told me to learn my class, and eventually that I should quit the game. It's gonna happen from time to time, don't worry about it.

PS - Look me up in game, I have a Harpoon of the Depths I looted last night, it's yours if you want it.

[Wizardling]

What an odd bunch of nonsensical responses, for the most part.

[Cecily]

You are quite upset about today's events in Blackburrow. Do you:

Cry about it in RNF. (Turn to page 86)
Cry about it server chat. (Turn to page 87)
Bush knocked down the towers. (Turn to page 911)

[Wizardling]

Or wonder what's in the drinking water in this forum.

[iruinedyourday]

pet cat

:D

[Champion_Standing]

Did anyone actually read?

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Nope.

Needs to be trimmed down to about 2-3 lines. WAyyy too long.

Got a chuckle though reading the title and seeing it also got cut off.

[Archalen]

Op, go to blackburrow. I will buff you on my lvl 60. I can't buff you with high lvl spells unless you /d me though. I will be there in an hour see you there.

[Kayso]

Can anyone here actually read?

ftfy. And, no.

tl;dr: nah

[harnold]

I am that monk and you owe me a res for being inconsiderate and getting me killed. I had to run all the way from qeynos hills zoneline....naked

[Thulack]

The long run from Halas to Blackburrow is what gave me a chuckle.

[Glenzig]

The long run from Halas to Blackburrow is what gave me a chuckle.

1 ZONE!!!!!

[Wizardling]

I meant all the way into BB past th mobs, too. What a bunch of idiots if you truly read nothing before responding. Why do people think saying "TL,DR" is something to be proud of? It just makes me feel pity for your intellectual capacity.

[Psionide]

I meant all the way into BB past th mobs, too. What a bunch of idiots if you truly read nothing before responding. Why do people think saying "TL,DR" is something to be proud of? It just makes me feel pity for your intellectual capacity.

Well you are a rogue and you can just hide/sneak past those mobs. I also give you credit for tucking tail and running after all you are a rogue not some honorable paladin that will stay and die for his friends.

Also, you're in RnF you should expect rants and flames.

[Wizardling]

Sure, and how slow is that to hide and sneeeeeaaaaakkkkk sloooowwwwllllyyy past the mobs in the tunnel leading to BB's entrance from Everfrost, and then slow sneak and hide down into the bowels of BB? I think people here might forget how slowly a sneaking rogue moves. The other guy only had to run - and that's RUN, not sneak any of the way - from Qeynos. Had I died, and had he not got quite so upset, he'd have been waiting ages for me, after he got back. 'Long' is relative. Regardless, death was still IMO a certainty for both of us. Making out there's something honourable about everyone dying and wasting time, when it's unnecessary, is just silly.

[pufen]

Sounds like the monk did you a favor by PLing you until you got him killed.

[Wizardling]

A) One wonder if it can be said that a level nine can power level a level eight :-D Did you even bothered to read that was the case?
B) Learn to read once again. As was said in the OP - the monk got himself killed by wading into a fight with only 15% life, and then getting upset that I ran from a no-win situation after asking me - in tattered and a couple pieces of leather - to tank three mobs at once.

Now he seemed like a nice enough guy, and after he was quiet for a while and I had written this while I sat around feeling hard done by, he patched things up with me. So that was nice, but it would have been nicer if if it had all been sensibly avoided - the death by regening first, or at least the bad feelings by not getting pissed at me for running from a no win situation.

Anyway: just learn to read, and you'll avoid making a fool of yourself as you have above.

[dustysr06]

you know, if you were on red in this situation... you could have let him get to 8-10% and then stabbed him in the back like the dirty monk he turned out to be and then he'd of really had somethin to be pissed about!

[pufen]

A) One wonder if it can be said that a level nine can power level a level eight :-D Did you even bothered to read that was the case?
B) Learn to read once again. As was said in the OP - the monk got himself killed by wading into a fight with only 15% life, and then getting upset that I ran from a no-win situation after asking me - in tattered and a couple pieces of leather - to tank three mobs at once.

Now he seemed like a nice enough guy, and after he was quiet for a while and I had written this while I sat around feeling hard done by, he patched things up with me. So that was nice, but it would have been nicer if if it had all been sensibly avoided - the death by regening first, or at least the bad feelings by not getting pissed at me for running from a no win situation.

Anyway: just learn to read, and you'll avoid making a fool of yourself as you have above.



That's a lot of text. You really should have been more careful when you pulled all those mobs onto the monk at 15% though. Definitely your fault.

[iruinedyourday]

That's a lot of text. You really should have been more careful when you pulled all those mobs onto the monk at 15% though. Definitely your fault.

Stop being a jerk, puffin.

[Wizardling]

Wow, now you're just making up lies. It never fails to amaze me how random strangers get online and suddenly show their true selves - in your case: unethical scum. Enjoy being a bad person. Sad you'll never know what it's like to be decent and ethical.

[Wizardling]

Also - as for the "That's a lot of text" - being proud of having the intellect and concentration span of a mayfly - or the average modern brat - does you no credit. By advertising it, all you do is try to fit in with other lowest common denominator idiots. To the rest you simply reveal your wilful stupidity and shame yourself.

[JayN]

ypi

[Nitsude]

There's a problem with this story. Why wouldn't the monk simply FD once he gets low enough?

[Lictor]

There's a problem with this story. Why wouldn't the monk simply FD once he gets low enough?

Story made up for red propoganda!

[Schwing]

That's a lot of dashes

[chief]

sounds like a bunch of rmting going on in BB

[Wizardling]

There's a problem with this story. Why wouldn't the monk simply FD once he gets low enough?

One wonders how many times the suggestion will be made that people actually read the posts they're replying to, and how many times people will utterly fail to do so.

[Brut]

Hope twink monk never makes it outta BB. Otherwise he'll be in Sebilis oneday telling groups not to get any real tank cuz he has Tstaff. /groan

[Nitsude]

One wonders how many times the suggestion will be made that people actually read the posts they're replying to, and how many times people will utterly fail to do so.I glanced over your post again, thinking I had missed something the first time. You're mad because someone wasn't nice to you, because you made the right decision to run when you were overwhelmed. The guy was an idiot, especially since he's a FD class.

I don't know why this was post worthy. People get overwhelmed at lower levels and run all the time. Sometimes their group members get mad. Have you managed to be on the internet the entire without encountering a person like this? One has to wonder why you felt the need to make this post. Did you need confirmation that you made the right decision, or did you just need some attention?

[Wizardling]

Monks do not get FD till level 17.

[Wizardling]

And I was simply tired of being treated rudely because I've escaped with my life, when others think I should go down with the ship, as if that's noble or something - like dying unnecessarily actually achieves anything.

It has happened many times over my EQ career, and a few times recently on various characters. Yes - I was slightly annoyed I was once again the target of shittiness that I feel is unwarranted - especially in this case, where as I've said - the level nine (again - Monks do not get FD till 17) monk waded into yet another fight, with only 15% health left, and unlike them I was an untwinked rogue, excepting a very minor AC increase from some bone legplates handed down as a random gift by a high level passer by.

So I sounded off here in the rants section. Only to discover some have a issue with a rant in the rants section, and most can't seem to even read. Believe me - I regret making use of the rants section, now. I should have just sighed, and moved on quietly, once again. I see that now.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

That's an intimidating amount of words.

Bookmarking this page for later

[Kayso]

Blue confirmed toxic as fuck

[harnold]

Did u hear me I said I am the fucking monk

[Glenzig]

Me try to reed wurdz. Wurdz hert hed. Stop reeds.

[FatMice]

There's a problem with this story. Why wouldn't the monk simply FD once he gets low enough?

This is not the Nitsude I know. He knows all. And would know that a Monk gets FD at 17. Although he would never play a melee class... isn't that right?

I glanced over your post again, thinking I had missed something the first time. You're mad because someone wasn't nice to you, because you made the right decision to run when you were overwhelmed. The guy was an idiot, especially since he's a FD class.

I don't know why this was post worthy. People get overwhelmed at lower levels and run all the time. Sometimes their group members get mad. Have you managed to be on the internet the entire without encountering a person like this? One has to wonder why you felt the need to make this post. Did you need confirmation that you made the right decision, or did you just need some attention?

This is the Nitsude I know! Questioning someones psychological legitimacy to post his feelings. Maybe he misses his mother?

[Nitsude]

Been a while since I've leveled a monk, gotcha.

Wizardling, I get your frustration. Shitty people doing shitty things and people who exhibit pixel superiority complex. Honestly, this server has a fair amount of that behavior.

In terms of this being the rant and flame forum, yeah I suppose. Genuine rants usually get trolled pretty hard here.

Keep being a good guy. We need more of those on this server.

[pufen]

Wow, now you're just making up lies. It never fails to amaze me how random strangers get online and suddenly show their true selves - in your case: unethical scum. Enjoy being a bad person. Sad you'll never know what it's like to be decent and ethical.

Thanks for not going too hard on me. That was classy of you. You are truly an ethical and decent human being. I aspire to one day reach your level of genuine kindness.



Also, you should never have trained a monk that was helping you level and you knew did not have FD yet.

[pufen]

Did u hear me I said I am the fucking monk

You should petition the rogue for getting you killed.

[Pico]

OP, I have a real problem with your ethics, and honestly Im beginning to doubt whether you can even call yourself a man at this point. This man (the monk), with no obligation to carrying your pathetic rogue along on his adventures, needed a small amount of help. You lacked the courage to do so and fled, and you now have the audacity to RANT about this in the project 1999 rants and flames forums?

the quality of this server has been declining steadily. This is very unsettling

[Wizardling]

Thanks for not going too hard on me. That was classy of you. You are truly an ethical and decent human being. I aspire to one day reach your level of genuine kindness.



Also, you should never have trained a monk that was helping you level and you knew did not have FD yet.

I'm surprised you're not inventing more. Why stop with a lie that I trained the monk? Why not embellish it a little - try to really defame me? You clearly have no ethics. So why stop there?

[Wizardling]

OP, I have a real problem with your ethics, and honestly Im beginning to doubt whether you can even call yourself a man at this point. This man (the monk), with no obligation to carrying your pathetic rogue along on his adventures, needed a small amount of help. You lacked the courage to do so and fled, and you now have the audacity to RANT about this in the project 1999 rants and flames forums?

the quality of this server has been declining steadily. This is very unsettling

I was going to post the reply below, but upon re-reading your comment above... well, it seems as if it might actually be parody. I don't know. I hope so.

Original reply:

Sorry, how could I forget: it would have helped enormously had I stayed and died as well, and then had to run back from Halas with slow sneaking through the tunnel into BB, and then through BB, taking much more time than the monk was going to take simply running from NQ.

This magically would have been better, and would have avoided my being treated shabbily. Which I totally deserved, because I didn't die pointlessly and waste everyone's time. Then I made the terrible error of posting a mini-rant - and for a rant - a very calm one - about being tired of getting treated badly because I prefer to escape obviously doomed situations.Worse - I posted this in a forum section just for rants. Except it's not apparently. In a feat reminiscent of 1984 doublethink, all this makes me unethical and lacking courage (so important playing in VR with pixels, I think), and a jerk for posting a rant in a rant section of the forums.

Well luckily you were able to show me the error of my ways, you sad little !@# who's only goal was clearly to score some points by having a go at someone by turning everything around, and making pompous and insincere comments about a supposed decline in the server.

[Pico]

I was going to post the reply below, but upon re-reading your comment above... well, it seems as if it might actually be parody. I don't know. I hope so.

Original reply:

Sorry, how could I forget: it would have helped enormously had I stayed and died as well, and then had to run back from Halas with slow sneaking through the tunnel into BB, and then through BB, taking much more time than the monk was going to take simply running from NQ.

This magically would have been better, and would have avoided my being treated shabbily. Which I totally deserved, because I didn't die pointlessly and waste everyone's time. Then I made the terrible error of posting a mini-rant - and for a rant - a very calm one - about being tired of getting treated badly because I prefer to escape obviously doomed situations.Worse - I posted this in a forum section just for rants. Except it's not apparently. In a feat reminiscent of 1984 doublethink, all this makes me unethical and lacking courage (so important playing in VR with pixels, I think), and a jerk for posting a rant in a rant section of the forums.

Well luckily you were able to show me the error of my ways, you sad little !@# who's only goal was clearly to score some points by having a go at someone by turning everything around, and making pompous and insincere comments about a supposed decline in the server.

There was absolutely nothing 'calming' about your rant and i found myself triggered several times while reading it. If you can't see how leaving someone to rot in the depths of blackburrow is nothing more than insane privilege then I question your ability to process social interactions in a logical manner. You conveniently waived your duty to your fellow group member (the monk) because you thought he was lesser for using items he attained on another hero

Im literally shaking because of this thread

[Wizardling]

Ah, it was and is parody. Okkkk... :-D

[Big_Japan]

Ah, it was and is parody. Okkkk... :-D

I don't think it's polite to ridicule legitimate criticism like this. Respond to the argument like a gentleman.

[Pico]

Heh. Guess a couple well worded, sound paragraphs was all it took to send this troll running just like he did in the everquest dungeon.

[Wizardling]

Why do people chose to be arseholes simply because they're online?

[iruinedyourday]

This area of the forums. Don't try to understand it. These nerds get picked in their whole life and here they can do what has been done to them to others.

[pufen]

The morals and ethics of Wizardling are the real issue here gentlemen. First, he begs a friendly and helpful monk to PL him for 15 minutes according to the logs that I saw. Then he proceeds to train said generous white knight monk, and then run off and zone with his tail between his legs. A good person would never maliciously train someone that went out of their way to PL them, and then have the audacity to flame the good samaritan on RNF.

[pufen]

he knew the monk didn't have FD.


HE KNEW

[Wizardling]

Why are you still making lies up? I begged no one for a group, I trained no one once I was invited to join with the monk, and you're just lying scum making crap up. Can I report this idiot to get him banned? Outright defamation seems as if it should be against good conduct.

[iruinedyourday]

Why are you still making lies up? I begged no one for a group, I trained no one once I was invited to join with the monk, and you're just lying scum making crap up. Can I report this idiot to get him banned? Outright defamation seems as if it should be against good conduct.

dude don't even trip, nobody reads these forums they just like devour them and try to absorb their life force.

[Wizardling]

Scum should not get away with being scum. Socially retarded arseholes like this ought to be slapped down as soon as they spring up. It's the only way to deal with them. They're toxic to society.

[Zaide]

There's a problem with this story. Why wouldn't the monk simply FD once he gets low enough?

:(

[Tasslehofp99]

Scum should not get away with being scum. Socially retarded arseholes like this ought to be slapped down as soon as they spring up. It's the only way to deal with them. They're toxic to society.

pro tip: just ignore them and keep it moving

[Ryba]

Scum should not get away with being scum. Socially retarded arseholes like this ought to be slapped down as soon as they spring up. It's the only way to deal with them. They're toxic to society.


It is obvious you did the smart thing and the monk is dumb and bad. You know this and everyone who isn't posting after reading your rant knows this. Your drama is too tame to bother commenting on, so the only people responding are professional jimmy rustlers. They are masturbating to your grief right now.

Next time an idiot does something idiotic, tell them what they should have done and then laugh at their impotent rage. You can skip the first part if you want. If you keep caring about a blackburrow train, you will be the idiot.

[Skittlez]

inb4 ryantwin20

[Pico]

Scum should not get away with being scum. Socially retarded arseholes like this ought to be slapped down as soon as they spring up. It's the only way to deal with them. They're toxic to society.

is your aspergers professionally diagnosed or only self diagnosed?