Noble Dojorn KSd? You tell me...

[Evorix]

Noble Dojorn (island 1.5 posky boss)

Please offer your opinions on who should have rightful claim to the mob given the situation that just unfolded.

We (Dark Ascension) put a shadow knight on island 1.5 (the first player on this island) to pull Noble Dojorn to our raid force on island 3 by using a rez pull (which is totally legal). The shadow knight is then accompanied by a monk (Inglorious Bastards) to contest the engagement of the mob when he spawns since both of the guilds knows the exact spawn timer. The shadow knight (with all filters ON) spammed target closest mob and HT to get agro first. Noble Dojorn spawns and the shadow knight gets first hit with his HT on Noble Dojorn and accepts the rez to bring him to our raid. As Noble Dojorn is flying to our raid he is side tracked by an IB member who over-agros Noble Dojorn and pulls him to their raid force and they kill them.

The rules clearly state whoever engages first gets the claim. We obviously did, but the GMs can not prove it because they do not have access to the exact logs on who attacked first.

[nerfed]

By over agro you mean disease cloud and possible HT while it was pathing to our raid.

[Starklen]

Chain pets.

[Lazortag]

The rules clearly state whoever engages first gets the claim. We obviously did, but ... can not prove it because ...

contradiction.

[Otto]

Normally I'd jump right in here and point out where you're misinformed, but I give up.

No matter how many times I try, no one listens.

Sorry you didn't get the mob.

[Evorix]

contradiction.

We do have a screenshot of the SK doing first damage, but that is all.

[Eternal-Elf]

I suppose this is what happens when you guys all sit at home pooping in socks waiting for the exact second a mob will spawn and little battle for initial aggro.......

No fun in the game at all when it comes to this point

[Hasbinbad]

We obviously did, but the GMs can not prove it because they do not have access to the exact logs on who attacked first.
So does this mean that KSing in general on p99 in undetectable?

[Hasbinbad]

So does this mean that KSing in general on p99 in undetectable?
..as long as a GM is not present..

?

[Hasbinbad]

Normally I'd jump right in here and point out where you're misinformed, but I give up.

No matter how many times I try, no one listens.

Sorry you didn't get the mob.
I'll listen.

[Isidro]

Yeah, i was skeptical when the FTE rules were announced for this reason. As far as I can tell there are zero logs to check who engaged a mob first.

Mush respect to G13.

[kenzar]

If a mob is KS'd in PoSky and no GM is around to see, did it really happen?

[xorbier]

Yep that's a KS and against rules. It's IB though....

If you'd have done the same thing you'd have received the BAN HAMMER!

[Eternal-Elf]

IB is like the retarded 40 year old cousin you have that lives with your grandparents.......SURE they get shit handed to them, and don't have to earn anything for themselves.........but it WILL Catch up to them one day when the g-parents are not around anymore.

[azxten]

Where's the fraps and screen shots?

[azxten]

Really though I hear so much complaining about KSing, blah blah, but no one ever manages to record these events? I thought that most guilds would require members to install fraps by now.

So you're sitting there alone and an IB member comes up, why isn't the first thought to record all of this?

[xorbier]

Where's the fraps and screen shots?

What part of it's IB do you not understand? lol That stuff doesn't matter against them. Nor will their members get banned. EVER.

[Eternal-Elf]

What part of it's IB do you not understand? lol That stuff doesn't matter against them. Nor will their members get banned. EVER.

We better be quiet.....we don't wanna cross IB!

[JayDee]

Lol nerds

[Uaellaen]

What part of it's IB do you not understand? lol That stuff doesn't matter against them. Nor will their members get banned. EVER.

i dont understand the part where you dont have screenshots of the event ... you guys talk alot, and never show prove ... *shrug*

[Isidro]

i dont understand the part where you dont have screenshots of the event ... you guys talk alot, and never show prove ... *shrug*

How would you know what proof* they show or don't show? Are you a guide/gm?

[jyaku]

We do have a screenshot of the SK doing first damage, but that is all.


nobody seems to read the entire post before posting themselves. if you have it post it, don't just bitch about it without your proof

[Serith]

Yo was he KS'd legit though? If so, much respect.

[Bones]

i dont understand the part where you dont have screenshots of the event ... you guys talk alot, and never show prove ... *shrug*
This is the cue for an epic mspaint screeny. Uuur? Straif? Give the thread some spice, bros.

[Evorix]

nobody seems to read the entire post before posting themselves. if you have it post it, don't just bitch about it without your proof

It will be, or has already, been sent to the GM.

[spoolie]

much respect g13. clearly this needs more pets.

[xorbier]

i dont understand the part where you dont have screenshots of the event ... you guys talk alot, and never show prove ... *shrug*

Hah, that's funny coming from you...

[Uaellaen]

Hah, that's funny coming from you...

why is that? i never seen a screenshot from you guys, i only see you whine .. and from my personal experience with you guys... i dont trust you the least bit ...

IB did not port out parts of my raid in fear or train our raids yet ... so frankly, i dont belive a word you say :cool:

[Isidro]

why is that? i never seen a screenshot from you guys, i only see you whine .. and from my personal experience with you guys... i dont trust you the least bit ...

IB did not port out parts of my raid in fear or train our raids yet ... so frankly, i dont belive a word you say :cool:

Never seen the screenshots, so those events never happened.

[Uaellaen]

Never seen the screenshots, so those events never happened.

i dont care what you think, those are my personal experiences with the leadership of that guild ... and i dont need to prove it with screenshots to make up my own mind ...

if you need to prove situations you been in to your self with picturs frequently... i would say you should go check out a shrink since it sounds like schizophrenia ...

[Isidro]

i dont care what you think, those are my personal experiences with the leadership of that guild ... and i dont need to prove it with screenshots to make up my own mind ...

if you need to prove situations you been in to your self with picturs frequently... i would say you should go check out a shrink since it sounds like schizophrenia ...

You talk a lot, but never show prove... *shrug*

Toxxulia is the forest that separates Erudin from Paineel. It is home to many different types of creatures, the most noticeable and prominent of which is probably the kobolds. With the Warrens so close in proximity, the Erudites of Odus are in a constant state of battle with these pesky beasts.

The Kerrans would be the other creatures of note. They have a small village in the outskirts of the forest and generally keep to themselves.

Located in the western part of the continent, Toxxulia also serves as a gateway into the Buried Sea with a network of tunnels leading to the Barren Coast of Odus.

[xorbier]

i dont care what you think, those are my personal experiences with the leadership of that guild ... and i dont need to prove it with screenshots to make up my own mind ...

if you need to prove situations you been in to your self with picturs frequently... i would say you should go check out a shrink since it sounds like schizophrenia ...

Stop whining

[Uaellaen]

Stop whining

no u~

[Hasbinbad]

i never seen a screenshot from you guys
+
if you need to prove situations you been in to your self with picturs frequently...
Makes this:
i would say you should go check out a shrink since it sounds like schizophrenia ...
Extremely hilarious.

[Uaellaen]

i see i have to explain it for you lowlifes a bit better ...

*I* do not need screenshots of situations *I* have been in to make up my opinion ...

where as *YOU* are trying to convince *US* of a situation we were not part of ...

get it yet?

[xorbier]

Yes Cyrius we get it. We've gotten it very well from you.

[Evorix]

i see i have to explain it for you lowlifes a bit better ...

*I* do not need screenshots of situations *I* have been in to make up my opinion ...

where as *YOU* are trying to convince *US* of a situation we were not part of ...

get it yet?

I'm not trying to convince u shit... I'm simply giving a situation and wondering if you would consider that KSing or not.

[Cyrius]

Yes Cyrius we get it. We've gotten it very well from you.

:confused:

[xorbier]

:confused:

<3

[Redriot]

http://thescoutingnazi.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/tsnazi.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

i see i have to explain it for you lowlifes a bit better ...

*I* do not need screenshots of situations *I* have been in to make up my opinion ...

where as *YOU* are trying to convince *US* of a situation we were not part of ...

get it yet?

I'm not trying to convince u shit... I'm simply giving a situation and wondering if you would consider that KSing or not.
Let's just call it hypothetical..
*IF* what Evo said is true, *IS* that kill-stealing?

[Uaellaen]

IF what he says its true. .. i would say so

[Uaellaen]

that is ... if the SK realy engaged first ...

[xorbier]

http://thescoutingnazi.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/tsnazi.jpg

At least you admit it. Props for that.

[Uaellaen]

admit what? i was not there, i dont belive that the SK engaged first ...

other then that, your picture sucks

[Redriot]

Yes I do indeed admit DA has quite the propaganda machine.

[Redriot]

Also -5 points to Hitler for spelling propaganda wrong

[Uaellaen]

Also -5 points to Hitler for spelling propaganda wrong

you have to excuse him, he was a bit backwards ;)

[whitebandit]

of course you would want to excuse hitler, because that is who you are! ;)

[Reiker]

If you want Djorn then fucking stay on Djorn island. HOLY SHIT IM BREAKING MINDS WITH MY INSANE LOGIC!

[Uaellaen]

of course you would want to excuse hitler, because that is who you are! ;)

i wish i was, then i could use mustard gas to get rid of you :D

[Reiker]

For page 6:

If you want Djorn then fucking stay on Djorn island. HOLY SHIT IM BREAKING MINDS WITH MY INSANE LOGIC!

[Evorix]

For page 6:

You don't understand... if we would go to island 1.5 then IB would do the same thing...

[Reiker]

You don't understand... if we would go to island 1.5 then IB would do the same thing...

If you're incapable of killing a raid mob WITH YOUR ENTIRE RAID FORCE WAITING AT THE SPAWN POINT then do the following:

1) Jump off the ledge of whatever island your vaginas are currently bleeding all over
2) Drown in Freeport, sad and alone
3) Forget about EverQuest

[Hasbinbad]

If you're incapable of killing a raid mob WITH YOUR ENTIRE RAID FORCE WAITING AT THE SPAWN POINT then do the following:

1) Jump off the ledge of whatever island your vaginas are currently bleeding all over
2) Drown in Freeport, sad and alone
3) Forget about EverQuest
It was ruled that non-aggro mobs can't be claimed in this way, because non-aggro mobs "don't have an aggro radius."

This rule wasn't clarified until IB took princess out from under 20 active members of WI.

[xorbier]

You don't understand... if we would go to island 1.5 then IB would do the same thing...

And they have...

[Hasbinbad]

The only way to "claim" a non-aggro mob is FTE at the current evolution of the rules.

[Evorix]

If you're incapable of killing a raid mob WITH YOUR ENTIRE RAID FORCE WAITING AT THE SPAWN POINT then do the following:

1) Jump off the ledge of whatever island your vaginas are currently bleeding all over
2) Drown in Freeport, sad and alone
3) Forget about EverQuest

You are not understanding the concept even though it is quite simple... Dojorn has no variance therefore he spawns to the second based on his last death. Both guilds will be there spam clicking for him with attack on. Incapable of killing him with our raid force is not in question. It is who gets the first hit (which obviously doesn't matter), or who stacks up the most rogues and gets exp.

[Hasbinbad]

The problem with that is that with 2 raid forces trying to take first aggro, one will not get it, and according to Rogean will be suspended..

50/50 shot of eating a suspension on every contested, non-aggro mob at this point..

Unless of course "the GM didn't see it."

[Reiker]

I understand everything, but I find it sad that you're crying because your guild isn't as good as IB. That's the fucking point. Couldn't stack enough dps to win vs. IB? Tough shit, get better.

What makes this even worse is since you already were on island 3, I'm assuming you guys got the Overseer anyways after IB killed Djorn.

[Hasbinbad]

or who stacks up the most rogues and gets exp.
That only works if "the GM isn't there," which only seems to happen in "certain situations."

[Hasbinbad]

I understand everything, but I find it sad that you're crying because your guild isn't as good as IB. That's the fucking point. Couldn't stack enough dps to win vs. IB? Tough shit, get better.

What makes this even worse is since you already were on island 3, I'm assuming you guys got the Overseer anyways after IB killed Djorn.
Nobody has killed Overseer yet, he quads for 780 (supposedly 850, but i've only seen 780)..

The problem Tiki, is when a mob is straight up KS'd. KS rules are very clear, but are "unenforceable" when a "GM isn't there to see it," which only happens in "certain situations."

[Evorix]

I understand everything, but I find it sad that you're crying because your guild isn't as good as IB. That's the fucking point. Couldn't stack enough dps to win vs. IB? Tough shit, get better.

What makes this even worse is since you already were on island 3, I'm assuming you guys got the Overseer anyways after IB killed Djorn.

hmm you sure u know what u are talking about? The rules state it is first to engage not who can generate the most threat, IB was on island 3 as well, and overseer hits for quad 782 and DTs so no we did not kill him. Noone has.

[Gwence]

no one's killed overseer, he's mean =(

[Reiker]

Stop arguing about hypotheticals. All it comes down to is this:

You weren't on Noble island
IB was on Noble island
IB wanted Noble more than you
IB got Noble
You presumably got Overseer, which you were set up to kill, so presumably that was the mob you wanted

Whining because you didn't get both mobs makes you sound even more pathetic than most of the crap that's posted on R&F.

[Evorix]

Stop arguing about hypotheticals. All it comes down to is this:

You weren't on Noble island
IB was on Noble island
IB wanted Noble more than you
IB got Noble
You presumably got Overseer, which you were set up to kill, so presumably that was the mob you wanted

Whining because you didn't get both mobs makes you sound even more pathetic than most of the crap that's posted on R&F.

Refer to my last post as you are making yourself look retarded.

[Reiker]

Oh man, the fact that IB was on island 3 and you guys didn't think to bring your raid force to Noble island right before he spawned makes this even better. What's the excuse, they would have out aggroed your entire raid, standing on his spawn point?

Fucking fail.

[Hasbinbad]

Stop arguing about hypotheticals. All it comes down to is this:

You weren't on Noble island
IB was on Noble island
IB wanted Noble more than you
IB got Noble
You presumably got Overseer, which you were set up to kill, so presumably that was the mob you wanted

Whining because you didn't get both mobs makes you sound even more pathetic than most of the crap that's posted on R&F.
IB was on island 3, nobody has killed overseer, you're flaming queer.

[Reiker]

Refer to my last post as you are making yourself look retarded.

Stop rage replying and maybe I'll be able to read your posts before I make mine.

[Gwence]

Oh man, the fact that IB was on island 3 and you guys didn't think to bring your raid force to Noble island right before he spawned makes this even better. What's the excuse, they would have out aggroed your entire raid, standing on his spawn point?

Fucking fail.

we even cleared the 2 bladestorms for them too prior to Noble spawn if they wanted to do that.

[Reiker]

I have a new idea for DA:

Put all your 'crying on the forums' energy towards trying to defeat Overseer of Air.

[Hasbinbad]

Oh man, the fact that IB was on island 3 and you guys didn't think to bring your raid force to Noble island right before he spawned makes this even better. What's the excuse, they would have out aggroed your entire raid, standing on his spawn point?

Fucking fail.
Yeah, this is exactly right, and "certain people" did in fact suggest that. The problem THEN is that if IB saw that happen, they most likely would have done the same thing (or would have next time), leading to the situation of the 50/50 shot at your raid being suspended. It may have worked once if timed right, but in the long run you have the same problem.

[Hasbinbad]

we even cleared the 2 bladestorms for them too prior to Noble spawn if they wanted to do that.
Kind of like when we cleared the bladestorms for you guys when "someone" told us "he" was "working on pathing, and not to engage," and then pulled the noble to you for your "server first" kill?

[Koota]

This shit is fucking exhausting to read.

[Hasbinbad]

This shit is fucking exhausting to read.
More exhausting to sit through in real time imo.

[Evorix]

As Noble Dojorn is flying to our raid he is side tracked by an IB member who over-agros Noble Dojorn and pulls him to their raid force and they kill them.

You don't understand... if we would go to island 1.5 then IB would do the same thing...

The problem with that is that with 2 raid forces trying to take first aggro, one will not get it, and according to Rogean will be suspended..

50/50 shot of eating a suspension on every contested, non-aggro mob at this point..

Unless of course "the GM didn't see it."

All this has been stated... no repetition is needed

[Gwence]

Kind of like when we cleared the bladestorms for you guys when "someone" told us "he" was "working on pathing, and not to engage," and then pulled the noble to you for your "server first" kill?

was that the time you wiped to dojorn with 7 clerics multiple times and then we got him first try with 3 clerics?

yea I remember that.

[xorbier]

we even cleared the 2 bladestorms for them too prior to Noble spawn if they wanted to do that.

Oh like the first time when we cleared the blade storms and you stole him?

You guys are pathetic.

[Evorix]

was that the time you wiped to dojorn with 7 clerics multiple times and then we got him first try with 3 clerics?

yea I remember that.

We only had dojorn solo once.. and that time he warped inside the floor of the windmill, summoned the main tank out of clerics range, and we wiped at 9%

[Uaellaen]

More exhausting to sit through in real time imo.

i thought you are used to camping by now ...

[Reiker]

DA: When being called out on whining about shit that actually happened, they will continue to whine about fantasy land theoretical outcomes that didn't even happen.

[Hasbinbad]

was that the time you wiped to dojorn with 7 clerics multiple times and then we got him first try with 3 clerics?

yea I remember that.
1 dojorn is a lot easier to kill than 1 dojorn and 2 bladestorms.. We had just gotten the bladestorms down and were buffed up and ready to engage dojorn solo and then "someone" told us to wait a minute. Next thing we knew, you guys were engaged.

[Hasbinbad]

i thought you are used to camping by now ...
That's what you get for thinking, bitch.

I haven't been here much lately until more recently.

[Uaellaen]

who the hell is someone ><

[Hasbinbad]

1 dojorn is a lot easier to kill than 1 dojorn and 2 bladestorms.. We had just gotten the bladestorms down and were buffed up and ready to engage dojorn solo and then "someone" told us to wait a minute. Next thing we knew, you guys were engaged.
Right, after one bugged out attempt..

[Hasbinbad]

who the hell is someone ><
Use your imagination.

..or is deductive reasoning beyond your scope?

[Uaellaen]

Right, after one bugged out attempt..

quoting your self now? forgot to log over to your troll account?

[Gwence]

sorry no time for DA flunkees anymore, we're busy on isle 7.

[Uaellaen]

Use your imagination.

..or is deductive reasoning beyond your scope?

someones is in europa, and im 100% he was not in plane of air yet ;) your turn gnome ...

[Hasbinbad]

quoting your self now? forgot to log over to your troll account?
Don't have one. -1

Quoted myself because i forgot to speak to our 1 attempt on dojorn solo, which was bugged out.

[Reiker]

This thread summed up:


So Hasbinbad, I heard you guys lost Djorn tonight?

http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/baby_crying_closeup.jpg



That's too bad, Hasbinbad. Why didn't you just move your raid to his spawn point...

http://josh-wyxl.itmblog.com/files/2009/11/crying_baby.jpg



I see. Well, at least you guys could kill the Overseer, right?

http://hatshrapnel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/crying_baby.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

Hey Tiki, I wonder why you don't know shit about what's going on brew?

Where was Tiki and Reiker when sky popped, brew?

You need to log in so you can get some fat lewts brewski.

..oh wait..

[Reiker]

What was that? I can't hear you over all these fucking crying babies.

[Hasbinbad]

What was that? I can't hear you over all these fucking crying babies.
Your subjective viewpoint on issues regarding which you know so little really means a lot to me brew. No really.

[G13]

i dont understand the part where you dont have screenshots of the event ... you guys talk alot, and never show prove ... *shrug*

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/kuato_real.jpg

Much respect Isidro

[Starklen]

Much respect G13.

[G13]

Much respect G13.

Fistbump homey

[Hasbinbad]

Much respect Bazzt Zzzt.

[Uaellaen]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/kuato_real.jpg

Much respect Isidro

im so glad im not the tiny little ugly wart growing out of the body ...

oh btw die in a fire modus :eek:

[Pheer]

Much respect a windrider drake

[G13]

sorry no time for DA flunkees anymore, we're busy on isle 7.



http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14717

You're serving this shit up bro on a platter

[G13]

How many mages does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

[Starklen]

a TON

[Uaellaen]

How many mages does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

1 chainpetting mage!

[G13]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german2.jpg

Why is it you log off and then Cyrius logs on in succession

[whitebandit]

i also noticed they both happen to be developers and extremely devoted to this P99 forum/server...

[Hasbinbad]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german2.jpg

Why is it you log off and then Cyrius logs on in succession
http://images.memegenerator.net/Joker-Dog/ImageMacro/2196678/Not-sure-if-Cyrius.jpg

[Uaellaen]

oh my we live in the same country!! you are right, germany only has 4 people population ...

theres like 50 people from germany playing on the server, they must all be CYRIUS!!! and i never log out broski ...

[xorbier]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german2.jpg

Why is it you log off and then Cyrius logs on in succession

End the corruption!

[Uaellaen]

im a developer?? thats like .. new to me

[Uaellaen]

now i realy know you guys have 0 brains !! thank you for finaly confirming ... lol ...

[Uaellaen]

End the corruption!

end your life! do us a favor ... please!

[Evorix]

end your life! do us a favor ... please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAV0XrbEwNc&feature=player_embedded#!

[Uaellaen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAV0XrbEwNc&feature=player_embedded#!

right back atcha!

[G13]

Why you were ever allowed to be a GM is beyond me. Especially with your obvious bias and hatred towards one of the two end game raiding guilds on this server which has keenly been on display since day one.

[Cyrius]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/german2.jpg

Why is it you log off and then Cyrius logs on in succession

Interesting theory. Again, i do not play on this server.

[G13]

Interesting theory. Again, i do not play on this server.

Cool story bro

[Uaellaen]

Cool story bro

u mad bro?

[Cyrius]

i also noticed they both happen to be developers and extremely devoted to this P99 forum/server...

I am a guide, not a developer. And to be honest i was already done with you guys. I actualy came back because Uael dragged me back since you all went haywire without me. But honestly i realy dont know why i devote my time to people like you.

[Gideon]

sorry no time for DA flunkees anymore, we're busy on isle 7.

The hilariously pathetic thing about that quote? You actually believe this content is difficult beyond having gear and a pulse, so you find it necessary to be a smarmy little shit head to people.

Enjoy being mediocre on an emulated server for a 12 year old game, and that an olive has more influence than you; it might choke someone important and change the course of history.

+1 elf shoes to anyone that knows what that's from.

[xorbier]

end your life! do us a favor ... please!

Go watch some scat porn that ought to cheer you up! Aren't conquered nations into that shit? No pun intended.

[Uaellaen]

The hilariously pathetic thing about that quote? You actually believe this content is difficult beyond having gear and a pulse, so you find it necessary to be a smarmy little shit head to people.

Enjoy being mediocre on an emulated server for a 12 year old game, and that an olive has more influence than you; it might choke someone important and change the course of history.

+1 elf shoes to anyone that knows what that's from.

if its so easy, why cant you beat it? :cool:

[Uaellaen]

Go watch some scat porn that ought to cheer you up! Aren't conquered nations into that shit? No pun intended.

i dont even know what that is ... and i dont think i want to know ... and you wanna stir up shit from 70 years ago? where you werent even alive? you little fag?

[Bazek]

I am a guide, not a developer. And to be honest i was already done with you guys. I actualy came back because Uael dragged me back since you all went haywire without me. But honestly i realy dont know why i devote my time to people like you.

Cyrius is a racist.

[whitebandit]

I am a guide, not a developer. And to be honest i was already done with you guys. I actualy came back because Uael dragged me back since you all went haywire without me. But honestly i realy dont know why i devote my time to people like you.

so you guys do know each other then..

[Hasbinbad]

i dont even know what that is ... and i dont think i want to know ... and you wanna stir up shit from 70 years ago? where you werent even alive? you little fag?
u mad nazi?

[Uaellaen]

so you guys do know each other then..

yeah i know him IRL, we used to play on the same server on live ... thats no secret ... guess what i know plenty more people from this server IRL ... yeah i know its hard to comprehend that there are contacts outside the internet for "people like you" (ohya im a racist now too!!)

[Hasbinbad]

yeah i know him IRL, we used to play on the same server on live ... thats no secret ... guess what i know plenty more people from this server IRL ... yeah i know its hard to comprehend that there are contacts outside the internet for "people like you" (ohya im a racist now too!!)
u mad nazi?

[Uaellaen]

u mad nazi?

no im not, sieg heil! :cool:

[Gideon]

if its so easy, why cant you beat it? :cool:

Because the first time was enough. Sorry you didn't get to experience classic back in the day because you were still in third grade, but try not to be so bitter ~.~

[Hasbinbad]

no im not, sieg heil! :cool:
coz, u sound mad..

[xorbier]

Fairness... is that so hard to grasp?!!

[whitebandit]

no hey that's cool Uuaellaen, i didn't know you guys actually knew each other, i just continually see you being accused of being the same person.. but if you guys just know each other that is pretty cool. Sucks for us, but good for you :)

[Uaellaen]

Because the first time was enough. Sorry you didn't get to experience classic back in the day because you were still in third grade, but try not to be so bitter ~.~

oh i played EQ since 1999 and experienced classic

[Gideon]

oh i played EQ since 1999 and experienced classic

Yeah and I fucked your whore of a mother. See how that works?

[Uaellaen]

coz, u sound mad..

im actualy sitting here laughing my ass of :cool:

a mass murdering country calling me a nazi makes me laugh mister vietnam ... or misses hiroshima?

[Uaellaen]

Yeah and I fucked your whore of a mother. See how that works?

how did you know my mother is a whore? didnt know you fucked her ... hope she gave you the aids

[Uaellaen]

no hey that's cool Uuaellaen, i didn't know you guys actually knew each other, i just continually see you being accused of being the same person.. but if you guys just know each other that is pretty cool. Sucks for us, but good for you :)

makes no difference for me ... in fact cyrius banned the few bad apples 2 boxing / exploiting we had in guild already ...

[Uaellaen]

Fairness... is that so hard to grasp?!!

yeah seems to be a hard to grasp concept for you guys ... might be your social enviorment .. oh wait its non excistant ...

[Beau]

... hope she gave you the aids

lol

[Hasbinbad]

a mass murdering country calling me a nazi makes me laugh mister vietnam ... or misses hiroshima?
We learned from the best!! ..and at least we won.
U mad about that too Mr. Goebbels?

[Starklen]

DA back to your computers please. Nizzarr's electricity bill is due soon.

[whitebandit]

makes no difference for me ... in fact cyrius banned the few bad apples 2 boxing / exploiting we had in guild already ...

now send him towards IB and have him do some investigating.. there may be some cyrius(sp) exploiting going on there..:confused:

[Uaellaen]

We learned from the best!! ..and at least we won.
U mad about that too Mr. Goebbels?

im not goebbels ... he sucked at propaganda and his damaged leg ... meh i can walk just fine ...

if anything i would want to be heinrich himmler

[Uaellaen]

now send him towards IB and have him do some investigating.. there may be some cyrius(sp) exploiting going on there..:confused:

not my job ... use the petition forum ...

[G13]

I am a guide, not a developer. And to be honest i was already done with you guys. I actualy came back because Uael dragged me back since you all went haywire without me. But honestly i realy dont know why i devote my time to people like you.

No actually what happened Uuaellaen is you abused your power since day one and couldn't keep your bias out your decisions that directly affected the end game. Only when you blatantly went off your rocker and there was no hiding or making excuses for your obvious "un GM like" behavior, were you shown the door.

Why you were ever allowed to come back to guide duties is beyond me

Uuaellaen

[G13]

But hey let me give you the benefit of the doubt

So you just "know Cyrius in RL really really well" and played with him within other games. It's amazing that you would attempt to sit and proclaim he's made decisions that affected the end game with an even hand or something. Give me a break.

[Uaellaen]

But hey let me give you the benefit of the doubt

So you just "know Cyrius in RL really really well" and played with him within other games. It's amazing that you would attempt to sit and proclaim he's made decisions that affected the end game with an even hand or something. Give me a break.

i only played EQ1 on live with him ... not other games ... and i know him ... he likes to say "he hates everyone equaly" and that is true ... if he would catchme 2 boxing he would ban me within a second ... but hey i guess you can not understand because you are probably showeqing the hell out of sky right now

[Uaellaen]

Yea yea blah blah blah

Whatever Cyrius

you mad brew? :eek:

[Hasbinbad]

you mad brew? :eek:
u mad himmler?

[Uaellaen]

u mad himmler?

naw if i was mad + himmer you currently would be sniped trought your basement window ...

[Uaellaen]

so enought fun for today ... time to get on my balkony and relax in the sun ... enjoy your sky camping!

[G13]

i only played EQ1 on live with him ... not other games ... and i know him ... he likes to say "he hates everyone equaly" and that is true ... if he would catchme 2 boxing he would ban me within a second ... but hey i guess you can not understand because you are probably showeqing the hell out of sky right now

Bro I just saw your drunk bloated ass in tinychat with Swishahouse. It's hysterical that you're still trying to claim you're not Cyrius. You're just some dumb fat kid. It's unbelievable.

[Hasbinbad]

im no neo nazi
"..the devil's best trick is to persuade you that he doesn't exist!"
-Baudelaire

[Uaellaen]

Bro I just saw your drunk bloated ass in tinychat with Swishahouse. It's hysterical that you're still trying to claim you're not Cyrius. You're just some dumb fat kid. It's unbelievable.

lol whut? i dont do videochats ... hillarious thou that swisha fooled you ... your IQ must be below 100 ... i didnt expect it to be that low ...

/waves goodbye and goes on his balcony

[G13]

lol whut? i dont do videochats ... hillarious thou that swisha fooled you ... your IQ must be below 100 ... i didnt expect it to be that low ...

/waves goodbye and goes on his balcony

Lol you're hilarious

[Hasbinbad]

lol whut? i dont do videochats ... hillarious thou that swisha fooled you ... your IQ must be below 100 ... i didnt expect it to be that low ...

/waves goodbye and goes on his balcony
..the wilted fop makes his grand exit..

[Uaellaen]

Lol you're hilarious

meh fine one more post ...

http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=323

im on the right side mister spongebob smartypants ...

[G13]

meh fine one more post ...

http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=323

im on the right side mister spongebob smartypants ...

Yea no shit Cyrius

[Hasbinbad]

meh fine one more post ...

http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=323

im on the right side mister spongebob smartypants ...
notice in this picture how the url is only slightly different.. nice pictures you store, nazi..
http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=282

[Hasbinbad]

u stylin
http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=249

[G13]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/dieter.jpg

[G13]

http://www.ipodarchive.com/screens/672.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

your taste in music sucks
http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=176

[whitebandit]

there are a couple of good bands in there

[whitebandit]

oh and i literally mean "a couple", the Deftones and Team sleep are the shit.

[Uaellaen]

first of all, the first picture is my brother, idiot ... i sayd i am the one on the RIGHT not left, but yeah thats probably to hard for you to understand ... and the pictures you are linking are not from me ... its an upload area my brother uses ... its also his domain "moestaverne.com" but yeah you are again not smart enought to grasp this ... idiot

[kenzar]

Back on topic, if you (DA) truly were KSd by IB then either KS them back (and run the risk of punishment, just like IB did) or take itt on the chin and dont give IB an inch to move in the future (IE fraps them constantly, SS constantly, provide the GMs with no other option but to enforce the rules). [B]IF[B] the GMs truly are IB biased and refuse to ban/suspend IB for their infractions after being provided proof then i recommend quit playing on the server and let IB have their playground.

I have yet to see a single screenshot or fraps'd vid proving anything. not that you have to prove it to me but wouldn't that be nice to provide the playerbase on the forums with proof positive IB is KS'ing?

All you have proven to date is DA members are incapable of pressing F9 to start fraps.

IB is an extremely competitive guild. This thread seems to show that DA clearly cant compete at that level and resorts to screaming for mommy when things get too rough. If you dont like it when you play with the big dogs and get hurt, then dont play with the big dogs.

[Hasbinbad]

more nice images from ullaaelealaelaelellallalalaan
http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=121

[Hasbinbad]

http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=121

[Uaellaen]

lol you dont get it do you ... those are not mine ... you can link as many as you wish it wont bother me ... because ... they are not mine! lol ...

[Hasbinbad]

first of all, the first picture is my brother, idiot ... i sayd i am the one on the RIGHT not left, but yeah thats probably to hard for you to understand ... and the pictures you are linking are not from me ... its an upload area my brother uses ... its also his domain "moestaverne.com" but yeah you are again not smart enought to grasp this ... idiot
ooooh, so it's just your brother who is a piece of shit nazi? gotchya..

[G13]

Back on topic, if you (DA) truly were KSd by IB then either KS them back (and run the risk of punishment, just like IB did) or take itt on the chin and dont give IB an inch to move in the future (IE fraps them constantly, SS constantly, provide the GMs with no other option but to enforce the rules). [B]IF[B] the GMs truly are IB biased and refuse to ban/suspend IB for their infractions after being provided proof then i recommend quit playing on the server and let IB have their playground.

I have yet to see a single screenshot or fraps'd vid proving anything. not that you have to prove it to me but wouldn't that be nice to provide the playerbase on the forums with proof positive IB is KS'ing?

All you have proven to date is DA members are incapable of pressing F9 to start fraps.

IB is an extremely competitive guild. This thread seems to show that DA clearly cant compete at that level and resorts to screaming for mommy when things get too rough. If you dont like it when you play with the big dogs and get hurt, then dont play with the big dogs.

I thought you said we were getting back on topic?

[Uaellaen]

dont think he is a nazi, personaly i find those pictures hillarious ... especialy the one with the 6 billion kills achievement LOL

[whitebandit]

your brother doesnt happen to play Eqemu does he? i just want to make sure not to associate with a nazi..

[Uaellaen]

i realy dont see why you think it would bother me / hurt me / upset me if you call me a nazi ... you can call me anything you like .. kraut... nazi ... american ... those insults just dont do anything to me since i realy dont care what you think about me ...

BUT i encourage you to keep going, since im having lots of fun seeing how you rage and try to "hurt me" with text and pictures LOL

[Uaellaen]

your brother doesnt happen to play Eqemu does he? i just want to make sure not to associate with a nazi..

he is rumzuck, zordana on the forums, he is not a nazi, he plays a warrior and he hosts the P1999 official wiki ... :eek: also he coded the eqemulauncher ...

[kenzar]

oh and resorting to taking shots at a german person via WWII insults is grasping at straws imo. youre making americans look ignorant.

[Uaellaen]

oh and resorting to taking shots at a german person via WWII insults is grasping at straws imo. youre making americans look ignorant.

dont worry, i know only 51% of you are ignorant ... proven by the last bush vote :cool:

the other 49% are cool and have brains ... basicly like in every country

[Hasbinbad]

identity of the nazi:
http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=328

[kenzar]

I thought you said we were getting back on topic?

Oh sorry, topic is the hypothetical "is this KSing?" id consider what the OP layed out as KSing, yes. but there are 3 sides to every story, and i doubt the whole truth of what went down was accurately portrayed here. like i said in the future, give IB no room to breathe and they will suffocate with a fat ban, and if they dont i would stop playing because no one likes smacking their head against the wall. just my two cents, take it or leave it.

[Hasbinbad]

way to "get" posts edited .. lmao

[Uaellaen]

didnt you hear me? those pictures are hosted on my brothers domain, all i had to do is rename them ... idiot ... you obviously have no clue ohw the interwebs work ...

[Hasbinbad]

this fucking nazi
http://i35.tinypic.com/1t65c6.jpg

thinks this kind of shit is funny
http://i38.tinypic.com/dcgcib.jpg

and can be found in game here:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2e16a1x.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

didnt you hear me? those pictures are hosted on my brothers domain, all i had to do is rename them ... idiot ... you obviously have no clue ohw the interwebs work ...
obviously not

[Uaellaen]

yep obviously no clue ... wonder how you found your browsers temp folder ... asked your momy?

[Hasbinbad]

434 435 436

[G13]

Oh sorry, topic is the hypothetical "is this KSing?" id consider what the OP layed out as KSing, yes. but there are 3 sides to every story, and i doubt the whole truth of what went down was accurately portrayed here. like i said in the future, give IB no room to breathe and they will suffocate with a fat ban, and if they dont i would stop playing because no one likes smacking their head against the wall. just my two cents, take it or leave it.

I thought you said we were getting back on topic

[Uaellaen]

aww looks like tinypics removed your pics

[Eternal-Elf]

Back on topic, if you (DA) truly were KSd by IB then either KS them back (and run the risk of punishment, just like IB did) or take itt on the chin and dont give IB an inch to move in the future (IE fraps them constantly, SS constantly, provide the GMs with no other option but to enforce the rules). [B]IF[B] the GMs truly are IB biased and refuse to ban/suspend IB for their infractions after being provided proof then i recommend quit playing on the server and let IB have their playground.

I have yet to see a single screenshot or fraps'd vid proving anything. not that you have to prove it to me but wouldn't that be nice to provide the playerbase on the forums with proof positive IB is KS'ing?

All you have proven to date is DA members are incapable of pressing F9 to start fraps.

IB is an extremely competitive guild. This thread seems to show that DA clearly cant compete at that level and resorts to screaming for mommy when things get too rough. If you dont like it when you play with the big dogs and get hurt, then dont play with the big dogs.

Don't pretend for a second that IB wouldn't have come here whining if that had happened to them. Competitive? Why do they need to be ? They can do whatever the hell they want.
As far as whining to mommy? I think at least they went to the forums and appropriately placed it in the Rants and Flame.....

IB would just call up the devs on their cell-phones and get the shit done in whatever order/favor they needed.

Im glad i'm not wrapped up in the politics of this server.

[Skope]

IB has done quite a bit of whining on these forums as well, they're not excluded.

Didn't Rogean say there was a method for seeing who had FTE rights? Something about it being built into the server via logs, or am i mistaken?

[Erasong]

there are 3 sides to every story, and i doubt the whole truth of what went down was accurately portrayed here.

And no. I wasn't there. I was in bed hours before this. Need my sleep.

[Humwawa]

IB has done quite a bit of whining on these forums as well, they're not excluded.

Didn't Rogean say there was a method for seeing who had FTE rights? Something about it being built into the server via logs, or am i mistaken?

This currently is not the case. Maybe someday, but as of now it is not.

[Rellika]

Uuaellaen = Rape on this thread.

[Humwawa]

I watched the pull, by the way.

You can call me a liar and I wouldn't mind overly much, and considering the forum I rather expect it. The SK was there 15 minutes before IB's puller tried to be sneaky and invised into Dojorn's windmill.. The SK harm touched immediately and took a res box.

Whoever got the first hit is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things - what is more important is DA set up to pull, IB sent up a puller to take it, and this kind of nonsense will continue to happen until it degenerates into raid forces KS'ing raid forces.

I'm rarely vocal about this shit, and I liked to believe I wasn't anyone's enemy; that I joined a guild because they asked me to and stayed because I'm comfortable there. Every guild has a gaggle of assholes (we have Modus, you have Vierge for example), but since I happened to be playing said SK I had a first-hand glimpse of the kind of shady horseshit we're about to get ourselves into and that collectively, you (and we) are very likely going to be monstrous, sore-ridden assholes towards each other in the future.

Because you like it that way. In a way, I'm sure some of ours do too. Oh fucking well.

[Uaellaen]

Uuaellaen = Rape on this thread.

and i enjoyed it very much :cool:

[Humwawa]

In a way, I'm sure some of ours do too.

After the past four pages, I'm willing to admit this is a gross understatement. O Discordia!

I'd also like to point out that being competitive and being complete fucktwats to each other are not the same thing.

In closing, Uaellaen - if you really are Cyrius, you banned me a month ago for nothing, because my tag is <Dark Ascension> and you just assumed I'm trash. Thanks.

[Uaellaen]

i can not ban anyone >< if i could you wouldnt have to deal with all those faggots here

[Supreme]

hmm

Doesnt noble spawn ...again?

[Humwawa]

Hmmmm

I wonder if the exact same thing will happen?

Incoming variance. Guarantee it.

[Bushwick]

Christ, I can't believe I read through 21 pages of bickering man-children slap-fighting each other on the internet. What a sorry sight.

[Kutter]

But honestly i realy dont know why i devote my time to people like you.

Hopefully it's for the other 99% of the server that aren't dipshits, and are glad to have you here.

As for DA, no one gives a fuck about them, everybody loves to watch them get curbstomped by IB, and of course to watch their publicly humiliating display of QQ.

Carry on.

[Itchybottom]

I closely analyzed this thread, and produced a re-enactment for you. The following events that happen, take place in real time.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8563/clockg.jpg

[rioisk]

http://www.gamezone.com/images/screenshots/Phoenix_Wright_Ace_Attorney_Trials_and_Tribulation s_-_Wii_-_1.jpg

Seriously thought - P1999 needs a court established to determine the validity of complaints like this. I mean we can all have fun for 20+ pages of ridicule and laughing at IB and DA for being complete losers but what would be even funner to watch is them take a court case seriously against each other for stealing their bosses.

[fastboy21]

this is what happens when two raids camp a single mob.

1. did you realize that the other raid was also hoping to get the spawn before they supposedly tagged it away from you?

2. if you did realize what conversation/compromise did you all come to?

If the top guilds are going to behave this way they can't expect the GMs or the rest of the server population to come to their defense/rescue. The top guilds on this server have (just like on live btw...so it doesn't bother me) ruined raiding for the rest of the server by monopolizing content with their play all the time (i.e. poopsocking) strats.

So...I don't give a shit what the top guilds do to each other up in posky. I hope they torment each other so much that it makes the game even less enjoyable for them and maybe a few of them quit.

What makes p1999 so much worse than live when it comes to raiding is that at this point in the "timeline" there were not around 10 guilds easily capable of killing vox/naggy/etc on any single server.

The folks who wanted to play "uber" now get to lay down in the bed they have made for themselves. It is EXCEEDINGLY difficult to do sky without having compromise between guilds.

I, for one, will be happy every time I read or hear about an uber guild complaining about something like this.

[Itchybottom]

What makes p1999 so much worse than live when it comes to raiding is that at this point in the "timeline" there were not around 10 guilds easily capable of killing vox/naggy/etc on any single server.

At this point in the timeline on Rallos Zek, there was a multi-guild rotation going on called the reverent, and we all worked together to poopsock every single raid encounter. Pretty sure on Povar with Inverse Logic and that other uber guild had shit on lock down by now too.

[rioisk]

this is what happens when two raids camp a single mob.

1. did you realize that the other raid was also hoping to get the spawn before they supposedly tagged it away from you?

2. if you did realize what conversation/compromise did you all come to?

If the top guilds are going to behave this way they can't expect the GMs or the rest of the server population to come to their defense/rescue. The top guilds on this server have (just like on live btw...so it doesn't bother me) ruined raiding for the rest of the server by monopolizing content with their play all the time (i.e. poopsocking) strats.

So...I don't give a shit what the top guilds do to each other up in posky. I hope they torment each other so much that it makes the game even less enjoyable for them and maybe a few of them quit.

What makes p1999 so much worse than live when it comes to raiding is that at this point in the "timeline" there were not around 10 guilds easily capable of killing vox/naggy/etc on any single server.

The folks who wanted to play "uber" now get to lay down in the bed they have made for themselves. It is EXCEEDINGLY difficult to do sky without having compromise between guilds.

I, for one, will be happy every time I read or hear about an uber guild complaining about something like this.


http://www.valuingpeople.gov.uk/media/agreed.gif

[Emoqq]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2u7loyb.jpg

[Bones]

Christ, I can't believe I read through 21 pages of bickering man-children slap-fighting each other on the internet. What a sorry sight.
Yeah.

[rioisk]

Yeah.

We all hate IB and DA so when they cry like babies it's fun to mock them.

[fastboy21]

i played on povar and then xev...and yes, the mobs were locked down. thats not the point. my point was that behind the top guild on povar there was only 1 or 2 guilds waiting to get a shot at the content...on p1999 there are almost 10 guilds stuck behind.

[Reiker]

oh and resorting to taking shots at a german person via WWII insults is grasping at straws imo. youre making americans look ignorant.

You have to realize Hasbinbad is a pig-headed hypocrite piece of shit. He's the kind of person who will rage on you for being racist for saying something like "sup *****" and then will turn around and call someone a nazi because they're German.

[jyaku]

ok, where was this mob spawning and where were the guilds. from what i understand, neither guild was following the new raid rules and should all be delt with.

Q: Can we continue to camp the raid mobs?
A: "Camping" of raid targets has completely changed. If you choose to lay a claim to an unspawned raid npc, your raid must be at the npc's spawn point with sufficient force.

[Atern]

Can't believe I just read this entire thread...

I want those 15 minutes of my life back...

[Tunarian]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2u7loyb.jpg

Hahahaha!

Man, this dramatic shit is why game developers went to instanced encounters. Thanks for ruining the genre for everyone, you whiney fucks. Back in 99 you were all a bunch of 16 year old kids bitching about spawn camping, now you're probably in your late 20's or early 30's and still bitching about the same shit. Can't you raid guilds just communicate with eachother and take turns? Create a calendar or something (That's what we did on Cazic-Thule and it worked).

[Bossco]

ok, where was this mob spawning and where were the guilds. from what i understand, neither guild was following the new raid rules and should all be delt with.

This does not apply here.

[Straif]

Did all of you guys stay up for 12 fucking hours ranting on this post? Jesus Christ.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif

[jyaku]

This does not apply here.

how does this not apply here, is this not an argument about a raid mob? if one guy can get over to where ever this guy respawns then the whole dam raid can get there

[Starklen]

I watched the pull, by the way.

You can call me a liar and I wouldn't mind overly much, and considering the forum I rather expect it. The SK was there 15 minutes before IB's puller tried to be sneaky and invised into Dojorn's windmill.. The SK harm touched immediately and took a res box.

Whoever got the first hit is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things - what is more important is DA set up to pull, IB sent up a puller to take it, and this kind of nonsense will continue to happen until it degenerates into raid forces KS'ing raid forces.

I'm rarely vocal about this shit, and I liked to believe I wasn't anyone's enemy; that I joined a guild because they asked me to and stayed because I'm comfortable there. Every guild has a gaggle of assholes (we have Modus, you have Vierge for example), but since I happened to be playing said SK I had a first-hand glimpse of the kind of shady horseshit we're about to get ourselves into and that collectively, you (and we) are very likely going to be monstrous, sore-ridden assholes towards each other in the future.

Because you like it that way. In a way, I'm sure some of ours do too. Oh fucking well.

I'm glad we can rely on someone who's been suspended for training.

[Straif]

Hmm? I wonder who you have scolded for the use of terrorist tactics in the past

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/iraq_alleged_suicide_bomber.jpg

Abacab tells you, ALLAHU AKBAR!!

[Hogwash]

CRIPPLE FIGHT
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e220/bbrown0707/Cripple-Fight--C11756058.jpg

[stormiejs]

This thread is a perfect example of why WI exists. Anyone who hates drama, feel free to come enjoy the game with us. :)

[Aum]

TL;DR

Hasbinbad looks stupid, Reiker yells at people, Uallean argues in broken english.

[Skope]

This thread is a perfect example of why WI exists. Anyone who hates drama, feel free to come enjoy the game with us. :)

wow. haha

OH BOY! where do we start? better yet, in which eq emu server should we start this discussion? I know of at least a couple servers where the entire server populations would disagree with your statement. I hope for your sake you're one of the new ones, because if you're not there are quite a few skeletons in a certain closet that have been kept from you.

[Kutter]

This thread is a perfect example of why WI exists. Anyone who hates drama, feel free to come enjoy the game with us. :)

WI has been nothing but drama since they started. Nice try, tho.

[guineapig]

This thread is a perfect example of why WI exists. Anyone who hates drama, feel free to come enjoy the game with us. :)

ROFLMFAO!!! :rolleyes:
I had a lot of laughs on this thread but this one caught me by surprise. :D


Back on topic. If what the OP wrote actually happened, then it does indeed break the new raid rules.

There is absolutely no reason why a GM should not be able to find out who damaged or aggroed Djorn first. It's no different than looking up transaction histories when looking for dupers.

[Skope]

I think the issue is where the Gms actually come into play.

In an instance such as this, it would be possible to see that the HT hit before the monk flying kicked or w/e, but if ultimately the burden of proof falls on the players and there isn't sufficient evidence to back their claim then the issue essentially goes down the toilet.

On one side, I don't think the GMs should get involved with these things week in and week out. It draws them away from kunark and to be frank I don't think anyone here wants that. I'm sure they've got quite enough on their plate, and babysitting is the last thing on their minds. On the other hand, the rules are such that they invite controversy like this, in all honesty I'm surprised it took this long for something like this to have happened :P I don't think guilds want to have fraps running 24/7 just feel assured that poop-tornadoes such as this don't start brewing.

I think all guilds should realize that cases like this will happen, but I also think there should be ways of settling this with minimal GM involvement. Somthing that would require a simple ctrl+f in a log to find the culprit.

[Straif]

http://www.operatorchan.org/r/src/r10466_fuck%20this%20thread%20outta%20here.jpg

[Virtuosos]

24 pages, 22 of them dedicated to flaming uaellean, and now it looks like the next 20 of them will be devoted to flaming WI for that comment.....


how did DA and IB get ignored in this thread that was primarily only ABOUT them :/? i personally am still curious as to who ks'd who here! screenshot please :D

[Hasbinbad]

so enought fun for today ... time to get on my balkony and relax in the sun ... enjoy your sky camping!

http://i33.tinypic.com/2u7loyb.jpg

LMFAO!

[Hasbinbad]

ugh.. damn you no edit button!

must have hit that + sign sometime late last night

[Nedala]

Holy shit, thats the best thread ever. Thanks for the laughs hasbin and G13 :D

I Speak german too, so im obviously Cyrius + a Nazi yay :D

You too are so retarded omg. I really thought hasbinbad has a bit of a brain from his previous posts, obviusly i was wrong....

[G13]

Holy shit, thats the best thread ever. Thanks for the laughs hasbin and G13 :D

I Speak german too, so im obviously Cyrius + a Nazi yay :D

You too are so retarded omg. I really thought hasbinbad has a bit of a brain from his previous posts, obviusly i was wrong....

Holy shit a Remedy member coming in to defend their corrupt guild leader

WHO WOULDA THUNK IT?

[Uaellaen]

corrupt how? we are corrupt cause we stay out of your poosock wars? lol ...

[Nedala]

sorry but this is so dumb i had to say something. wtf lets you think cyrius and uuaellaen are the same person?

Oh wait...they both from germany..good work sherlock holmes

But again, thx for the laughs :D

PS: Uuaellaen hates me because my mother is jewish :(

[G13]

sorry but this is so dumb i had to say something. wtf lets you think cyrius and uuaellaen are the same person?

Oh wait...they both from germany..good work sherlock holmes

But again, thx for the laughs :D

PS: Uuaellaen hates me because my mother is jewish :(

I don't need to "think" they are one in the same person. I KNOW they are one in the same person. You're welcome

[Alawen Everywhere]

I have screenshots of DA members involved in the sex slave industry and selling atomic materials to Al-Qaeda. They have been submitted to the appropriate authorities.

You can believe it because I wrote it on the internet.

[Nedala]

I don't need to "think" they are one in the same person. I KNOW they are one in the same person. You're welcome

Everyone laughs his ass of about what you think you know :D
http://culturespub.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/tactical-facepalm.jpg

[stormiejs]

wow. haha

OH BOY! where do we start? better yet, in which eq emu server should we start this discussion? I know of at least a couple servers where the entire server populations would disagree with your statement. I hope for your sake you're one of the new ones, because if you're not there are quite a few skeletons in a certain closet that have been kept from you.

I've seen a few threads of people talking about it, but I don't know of any exploits/drama in regards to the guild. Either way, I don't care! I can only speak for the time I have spent guilded with them on this server. Pretty much everyone that has applied since I have been raiding with the guild has come to the guild because they don't want to get involved in the DA/IB drama.

It's also suggested that we don't post in R&F because nothing good becomes of it; a stance found in almost every high end raiding guild i've played with to stay away from forums because of drama.

Instead of trying to cling on to some screenshots that people keep posting on a new account (with no actual information behind it), try to post something drama related that WI has been involved in in the past month.

We camped Inny for 4+ days, but we fucked up and a guild took it. Did we need a 25 page thread in R&F because of it? Nope. :)

[G13]

Everyone laughs his ass of about what you think you know :D
http://culturespub.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/tactical-facepalm.jpg

Yea that's why Cyrius had his GM powers removed for abusing them and couldn't handle disputes without bias. Cool story bro!

[Nedala]

Yea that's why Cyrius had his GM powers removed for abusing them and couldn't handle disputes without bias. Cool story bro!



http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/3374/original/Cool_story_bro_.jpg?1244744899

[G13]

Seriously

This shit doesn't even pass the laugh test. He already admitted in this thread that at the very least they are close friendship, but we're supposed to take Uuaellaen's ERRRR Cyrius' word they were fair and impartial or something. Give me a fucking break lol. EMU servers are awesome.

[Nedala]

lolwut?

i still dont get why you retarded idiot think they are the same person...because they admittet they know each other rl or what?

Can i pls have your ingame name so i can avoid you , thx.

[Nedala]

umm and...at what point was cyrius not fair...about what??

And thanks for screwing off a very nice GM of this server, instead of appreciate his work.

[G13]

lolwut?

i still dont get why you retarded idiot think they are the same person...because they admittet they know each other rl or what?

Can i pls have your ingame name so i can avoid you , thx.

Just go away you fucking Remedy asshat

You have no idea WTF any of this shit about. Go kill your hate trash and fuck off

[Nedala]

Just go away you fucking Remedy asshat

You have no idea WTF any of this shit about. Go kill your hate trash and fuck off

http://cdn.nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/umad.jpg

[Nedala]

@Cyrius

Bitte hör nicht auf, wegen ein paar wenigen vollidioten, du weisst doch sicher der grossteils des servers besteht aus netten leuten die schätzen was du und andere für den server machen. Keine ahnung was nicht stimm mit dem typ, lach einfach drüber und scheiss drauf :)

[Charyz]

@ueueueuaallleleenn

Bitte hör nicht auf, wegen ein paar wenigen vollidioten, du weisst doch sicher der grossteils des servers besteht aus netten leuten die schätzen was du und andere für den server machen. Keine ahnung was nicht stimm mit dem typ, lach einfach drüber und scheiss drauf :)

Fixt.

Translation: Bla bla bla dont stop, not everyone hates you, just laugh and shit on them. /ballpark

Of course YOU think Cyrius is nice, why would your GM screw over his own guild?

Hell, even if we play this charade that Cyrius is merely a RL friend of your GM, why would he screw over his RL friends guild?

[stormiejs]

EMU servers are awesome.

I know, right? If people think this server has drama, they missed out on the Guildwars, Lucidvision, and tvzek servers.

[Nedala]

Did he screw you or what? Shut up dude, they are not the same person you are retarded.