Nordenwatch's Guide: Rags to Riches

[Nordenwatch]

I'd like to preface this post with the link to the thread explaining what happened to me: www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144520

A lot of people have been asking me how I made the platinum that I did and I thought it would be prudent to post a guide on the forums, give something back to the community.

I started out with essentially nothing, a human necromancer with no knowledge of everquest at all and a few pieces of flayed skin, and at the time that I decided to liquidate I had 4 million platinum and 6~ million in gear.

This is how I did it:

Step 1: Roll a low budget farming character.

You can go several routes here. I went necromancer and it turned out to be a great idea because necromancers help you learn the game painlessly. Feign death allows you to fuck around without dying much. However, enchanters are also very cheap to gear and are much more powerful than necros in the long run. The key here is that you need a class that does NOT depend on gear, since you have nothing.

Step 2: Level up to 49 as fast as you can.

The lower level camps don't give you ANY money comparatively to the higher camps. Just level up to 50 and don't worry about the money you earn on the way there. You can easily earn a few hundred plat to clothe yourself and get spells through the leveling process.

Step 3: Seafuries

Seafuries are awful experience but this is where you can start to efficiently get reliable capital. I did seafuries from 46~ ish to 54 personally and made a lot of plat doing it. Seafuries are much better than most camps you can do at that level. Most camps around 50's will give item drops that are valued around 6k tops, and VERY rarely.

Step 4:: EC Tunnel

This is the part that many people dislike, but its a part that has to be done. To make money in this game you have to sink a significant amount of time in the market, learning prices and trends, knowing when the market is full of buyers and when the market is full of sellers. I took the capital that I made from seafuries and spent time buying and selling, picking up big ticket items for cheap from desperate sellers and waiting for desperate buyers.

To make money in this game, the greatest asset for you is the laziness of others. People have platinum and they're lazy as hell. They're a much easier target for your efforts than waiting for rare spawns to spawn with their rare drop. I did a lot of work trying to figure out services that people would pay for purely because they would be too lazy to do it themselves. For example: Essence Emeralds. they are necessary for necromancers for rezzes, which is often a key resource in raids. EEs are always being consumed one way or another and someone has to supply it. By doing the work of finding someone to sell you sacrifices and turning them into emeralds, you can turn a profit. Another example: Howling Stones keys MQ. I used to sell these for 2.5k each and the quest really takes no time at all to do. The fangs of Xalgoz are always rotting, and the prods were selling for like 400 when I was doing it. Another great example of this is Rogue Epic MQs. I sold about 15 of these things, they're relatively easy to complete and were valued at 50k apiece!

I listed the EC tunnel as step 4, but this is a step that you really need to be doing from this point on at all times. When you get items from the camps I'll list in the later steps, you need to be able to know the prices and sell them accordingly.

Step 5: Use the capital earned from the tunnel / seafuries to fund a high - end camping class and get it to 60 (if you were like me and had a human necro at this stage...)

The most of the end game money, to be farmed efficiently, requires a combination of a few specific roles. You must create a character that fits one of these roles. In my opinion, the most efficient way to farm platinum in this game is in a duo configuration. If you opted to go with enchanter / shaman instead of necromancer, this is where you are happy because you don't have to make another character. I used my money to equip a monk. The monk filled the role of the tank. With my RL friend who played a shaman, we could duo any money camp at the time. Torpor, malo, slow, and tash stick made it so we could duo the fungi king, sebilis crypt, ixiblat fer, for high end drops that would sell for monsterous amounts of platinum. Tunics being sold for 90k meant that every tunic dropped, me and my friend would get 45k. This adds up very quickly. Now with recent changes, the fungi king camp cannot be duo-ed, but it CAN be trio-ed! Two monks and a sham is how I did it. Try to figure out how!

Step 6: Use your character to farm the shit out of high end camps

At this point it is really helpful to have a guild of like minded players, who would be down to duo camps for a few hours and can rotate out to keep your camp going, etc. The A-Team was a great example. With them I camped a lot of these camps and made a lot of my platinum. There are a few camps that give you the most money. I will list them now in no particular order:
1. Crypt in sebilis. With a duo configuration of a lot of different classes, you can easily camp the whole crypt which has some very decent drops, including the hierophant's cloak and the jaundiced bone bracer. With a third member (rogue), you can even camp the emperor who can drop 60 spells like torpor which are great money.
2. King in sebilis. Trio configuration, tunics are still incredibly valuable and even splitting three ways its probably the best farmable money in the game.
3. HS south wing. South wing has the most valuable drops in the whole dungeon. Fingerbone hoop highlighting it.
4. Drusella in HS. Drusella drops the NoS and spawns every X amount of time. If you do the research and found out when she died and when she'll respawn, you can wait with a friend and take her out for easy money!
5. Ixiblat fer. Drops Cloak of Flames and high leveled spells. Can be easily duo-ed as long as sham kites and slows. The quest line to get him to spawn is fairly easy and is well rewarding since you can now spawn the next mob on the list, and are a step into the Cleric epic quest which can be MQ-ed for money!
6. Ragefire. This cannot be duo-ed by most players since it requires some pretty serious gear (donals BP) but you can easily do it with a small group of people and this dragon can drop TWO cloak of flames, red scales, dragon bag, gauntlets of firey might, and the heart of the dragon itself which is guaranteed which can be MQ-ed for a decent amount of money.

Do this until you have roughly 500k~ in the bank. This should take a while, but this is the fastest route to do so. Obviously the whole time you should be playing the EC market.

Step 7: Use your 500k to buy and sell HIGH END ITEMS

When I was doing this account trading was still legal, so I played a lot into that as well. The high end items also have enormous margins in reselling due to their tremendous value, so this earns you a lot of money very quickly. The rich do indeed get richer. When you have the capital to snag up a cheap CoF for sale and resell it for a quick 15k profit, EC becomes the best camp of them all. At the peak of my efficiency of earning platnium, I would be camping king, and in between spawns (23~ minutes to kill between king spawns) I would switch characters to my EC mule to auction my wares, and also switch to run around completing steps on my rogue for the rogue epic for MQ. Rare items in EC should be watched out for especially. Rare dragon / god drops on sale can often be sold for elevated prices simply due to the fact that they are rare and hard to come by. Donals BP, most GOOD trak BPs, VS legs, etc. Anything pre-nerf is always amazing obviously, a lesson learned through that magical prenerf fungus staff.

The reason for the 500k is that I reason this is the minimum amount of capital to be able to play the market. It allows you to buy essentially any item in market and have enough plat to buy more if the need arises. If you try to do this with lower amounts of platinum, it wont be nearly as efficient.

Do this until you have a million platinum.

Step 8 Buy 2x Puppet Strings

Why? Look at my thread that I used for a few months to sell hammers: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83622

Pages and pages of people who bought my hammers. 5k a hammer. The strings charge costs like 86 pp, its an incredible markup and a great investment. Even if the prices do drop, there will ALWAYS be people who need hammers and are too lazy to grind the faction. Over time you will make your money back and more. 2x Strings should cost you about 500k, so this will leave you with 500k to repeat Step 7 and make more money!

Step 9 Get Lucky

After you reach the point where you can buy anything that comes up on the market, you essentially just need to be in the right place at the right time to progress at any elevated rate. You can always camp king / crypt and play the market and make platinum, but I did not make 10 million doing ONLY that. Anyone in on the tunic scene will tell you that the A-Team did A LOT of king, but to get to 10 million I would have had to duo 200 tunics at 100k value... I got extremely lucky and did business with the right people (stabbyjoe love you man). That prenerf fungus staff alone was 1/3rd of my entire market value.

Thanks for the many years of fun. Also for the record during the years I played, I graduated from university and got into law school. EQ did not ruin my life!

[Lune]

give something back to the community.

p good except for this line

Ultimately, you wiped your ass with the community for personal gain. I had many interactions with you over the years and I always thought you were a pretty decent guy. Now you're just going to be remembered as an RMTing scumbag.

If you really wanted to give something back to the community, you wouldn't condone your own behavior. You wouldn't embrace RMT as an acceptable 'out' under any circumstance. You'd apologize, and you'd replace the weasel words and destructive attitude in your posts with remorse or indifference.

Harm the project? You used me to catch a bunch of cheaters, if anything I'm a hero.

why the fuck would I just throw money down the toilet?

I don't expect the community to understand my decisions

It's quite easy. You're a greedy, self-centered, duplicitous prick and you will make an exceptional attorney. You cared more about making a couple bucks than the integrity of the server or the efforts of the staff. You helped them catch cheaters, and then you became one yourself? Wow, thanks!

Thanks for the guide; anyone dedicated or savvy enough to actually follow it already knows all the steps.

[jaybone]

It's hard to turn down 10 grand on a elf simulator u imagine.

[Sarajo]

Lune said it all, except for: thanks for using this process to raise prices and make p99 less fun for people because it was in your own best interest to resell things at a higher price, because that just meant more demand for your RMT side business. One more note, and I cant even say "thanks" jokingly this time: not everyone has the time or pocket group to farm the things they want/need. Not to mention, quite often farming something was impossible because it was permanently camped by RMT monopolizers. Enough with the threads looking for pity/sympathy/acceptance/vindication/forgiveness/friendship already.
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[pharmakos]

hey since i bought a hammer from you and you sold the plat, do you think i could borrow $10? =p

[evan1612]

Cool thread until I realized RMT :/

[pharmakos]

^ is your warrior's surname Alavaris?

[evan1612]

^ is your warrior's surname Alavaris?

Stumpp, I was going for an Ogre-ish name. What's Alavaris from?

[pharmakos]

i spelled it wrong apparently, but: http://www.erowid.org/archive/sonoran_desert_toad/almost.htm







back on topic tho

Nordenwatch has a bunch of good advice, but i don't think anyone's gonna get rich selling OT Hammers anymore.... too many people have copied his idea. and since you have to sell 100 of them to even recoup initial expenses...

[innocent51]

I understand RTM as a "I have invested a lot of time in a game and its not anymore fun so I'm turning a bit of this time into money". It is breaking the rules, its bad but it has a logic.
I also somehow get the buyer psychology. They don't like everything in the game, just a part of it so they ask others and spend real money to do this part for them. I would advice not to play the game because there are nowdays a tons of other options that are less tome consuming or hard or punishing. But its still slightly understandable.


Farming and trading in order to make real money on the other hand seems completely stupid. There are so much more ways to make money that are more efficient, more entertaining and (or?) less illegal. RMTers, are not just scamming the server and breaking rules, they are also pretty idiotic.

[BigHurb]

i hate people who are good at the economy side of things. stop being good at it.

[justin2090]

10. Quit work, get a divorce, and throw away your razor blades. It's gonna be a long ride.

[Tecmos Deception]

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Sirken closed the original thread before I could post my pic!

[Weltmacht]

Pretty sure i'd rather open up a lemonaid stand



As enjoyable as freeport nasdaq sounds

[Swifty]

10. Quit work, get a divorce, and throw away your razor blades. It's gonna be a long ride.

Lol. Everquest is a game best enjoy casually. Don't become a mouthbreating neckbeard.

[Ganjar]

Make a wiz, get him to 39-- sell ports while selling item same time. Earn up from 500-4k an hour --

[Ganjar]

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Sirken closed the original thread before I could post my pic!

Th a ts a great q quote

[qombi]

It sucks to find out someone in the community you admired is cheating scum. This scumbag is proud of his actions. He used his guilds to make a lot of this plat and Perma camped items others wanted out of greed. Afterwards this turd selfishly sells it for a little money.

[Tecmos Deception]

The RMT was selfish, but no more selfish than 98% of P99ers would have been if they were in his shoes. If more than a handful of you could say, honestly, "Well, I'm 110% fed up with p99 and I intend to quit... and instead of making several thousand dollars by RMTing my vast ingame riches, I'm just going to quit/give away stuff/whatever" ... I'd be shocked.

But you can't say that he "used" any of us in A-Team. It's not like he was farming king with us for ages and not splitting the plat evenly. If anything he probably should have been entitled to more than 50%, since he was usually the one who checked on the camp constantly in order for us to get it in the first place and was willing/able to play different classes to make the duo work, etc. And as far as farming something for plat being greedy? Please. The steady farming of king 18+ hours a day for a year+ is the only reason anyone OTHER than someone like Nord or Greeny or Jeremy could even afford a tunic. And the vast majority of the people who fall into the "i want a fungi but i won't/can't buy one" group were never even online to even try the camp (let alone online AND able to put together a capable group for the camp) most of the time we were farming king.

I'm not saying that I approve of RMT, or that I wouldn't have been excited if he'd given away the fungus staff to someone in A-Team instead of selling it to Zeelot, or whatever. I'm just saying you guys who get all bent out of shape in every way imaginable over something like this need to step back for a bit of perspective.

[Barkingturtle]

I'm just saying you guys who get all bent out of shape in every way imaginable over something like this need to step back for a bit of perspective.

That's idiotic and you're an idiot.

The dipshit RMTing needs perspective. He's the one who feels he needs to be compensated for his time spent PLAYING A VIDEO GAME.

This isn't a virtual piggy-bank. It's a leisurely pastime. Quit treating it like your life.

[Tecmos Deception]

That's idiotic and you're an idiot.

The dipshit RMTing needs perspective. He's the one who feels he needs to be compensated for his time spent PLAYING A VIDEO GAME.

This isn't a virtual piggy-bank. It's a leisurely pastime. Quit treating it like your life.

Yeah. I'm the one who is taking this too seriously.

:rolleyes:


Like I said, I'm not approving of RMT. But he's banned, and the people who bought his stuff are banned. Granted, it must suck for the staff to have to spend much of their time dealing with this stuff. But, despite what you might think, Nord isn't going to end up in the 9th circle of hell next to Judas, Brutus, and Cassius because he RMTed plat on P99.

[Barkingturtle]

Yeah. I'm the one who is taking this too seriously.

:rolleyes:

Not what I was implying, although honestly -- this game is pretty much your whole life, right? I guess if the shoe fits....

I was actually referring to those who can justify cashing-out because they have "invested" so much time. It's like going to see a movie and then trying to sell your leftover popcorn to someone in the lobby on your way out. Because dammit, you suffered through that entertainment and now you deserve something!

If you feel this way, you need perspective. And probably a job.

[drktmplr12]

It's like going to see a movie and then trying to sell your leftover popcorn to someone in the lobby on your way out.

lol

[justin2090]

Tecmos is clearly the next Nordenwatch. Better ban him ahead of time.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Lune said it all, except for: thanks for using this process to raise prices and make p99 less fun for people because it was in your own best interest to resell things at a higher price, because that just meant more demand for your RMT side business. One more note, and I cant even say "thanks" jokingly this time: not everyone has the time or pocket group to farm the things they want/need. Not to mention, quite often farming something was impossible because it was permanently camped by RMT monopolizers. Enough with the threads looking for pity/sympathy/acceptance/vindication/forgiveness/friendship already.
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You were competing for cash in a competitive environment against one of the most patient people on the server playing the game for what made it fun for him. EconomyQuest (thanks Swish) is something I personally will never understand but it's a game the tunnel rats like playing - more power to them if they have the patience to stare at a screen and nickel and dime strangers.

He:
- had numerous 60 toons.
- actively camped a number of desirable spawns.
- built an EC empire.

All of these indicated he played the game for enjoyment without breaking the rules. In fact, the absence of any of these points would indicate something shady and would likely have flagged him. He was probably under the watch of management anyways due to having simply amassed so much wealth.

Bottom line is, he cashed out at 23:59 and you're complaining about every hour before that. Helpful tip: emulate the behaviour except the 23:59 event. You'll be rich (in game).

[Tecmos Deception]

Not what I was implying, although honestly -- this game is pretty much your whole life, right? I guess if the shoe fits....

I was actually referring to those who can justify cashing-out because they have "invested" so much time. It's like going to see a movie and then trying to sell your leftover popcorn to someone in the lobby on your way out. Because dammit, you suffered through that entertainment and now you deserve something!

If you feel this way, you need perspective. And probably a job.

You didn't imply anything. You outright said that I needed to quit treating p99 like my life, despite the fact that I'm just here having fun on my own terms while you're the one going berserk on the forums with RL attacks and moral condemnation and other ridiculous judgments because of all this.

Your analogy is a bit off, anyways. This is more like you collecting leftover popcorn inside the theatre before you leave because you enjoy doing that in and of itself, and then when you leave the theatre and wonder wtf you're going to do with all that popcorn, you realize that there are people lined up waiting to pay you for it.

[Barkingturtle]

You didn't imply anything. You outright said that I needed to quit treating p99 like my life, despite the fact that I'm just here having fun on my own terms while you're the one going berserk on the forums with RL attacks and moral condemnation and other ridiculous judgments because of all this.

You are taking this too personal.

I called you an idiot. This is a fact; both that I called you an idiot and that you are, in fact, a total idiot.

After that, if you read carefully, you will note that I was addressing the "dipshit RMTing". At the end I wrote, "quit treating it like your life". This is an example of the royal "your". I was referring collectively to those who believe they ought be compensated for their leisure activities.

Now Tecmos, if we are to continue communicating I need you to be less defensive and more willing to listen. Ok?

[Barkingturtle]

Your analogy is a bit off, anyways. This is more like you collecting leftover popcorn inside the theatre before you leave because you enjoy doing that in and of itself, and then when you leave the theatre and wonder wtf you're going to do with all that popcorn, you realize that there are people lined up waiting to pay you for it.

Oh, now I see your point. This sounds like totally reasonable behavior. GG Nord.

[Tecmos Deception]

You are taking this too personal.

I called you an idiot.

Idiot : usually offensive : a person affected with extreme mental retardation

:confused:

[Tecmos Deception]

Tecmos is clearly the next Nordenwatch. Better ban him ahead of time.

Lol. Can we have my stuff sent to red as "punishment" please? I really don't want to grind 6 more levels over there without my shiny pixels :(

[Barkingturtle]

It appears you've run out of defenses regarding our original point of contention: that those condemning Nord's actions "need to step back for a bit of perspective".

Must not have been such a strong point, eh?

Anyway, I should probably quit messing with you. I mean, you're playing on Red now, right? That's a pretty strong indicator that your life is not going well and that you're an idiotic idiot.

[Tecmos Deception]

Hanging on by a thread :)

[justin2090]

https://sp1.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608041530947732265&pid=15.1

[sedrie.bellamie]

most people collect 1mil plat to BUY a pre-nerf fungi staff not to just want to re-sell it

EC scum = EC scum

glad sever staff routed him out

[Tecmos Deception]

most people collect 1mil plat to BUY a pre-nerf fungi staff not to just want to re-sell it

EC scum = EC scum

glad sever staff routed him out

I wish they were only 1 million :(

[Rkelly]

Cool thread thanks for the tips

[alaiwy0503]

Cool thread thanks for the tips

best post here

[Splorf22]

Tecmos, this is a free server. The least you can do is respect the staff's wishes regarding RMT. Barkingturtle is right: the problem is that too many people treat this game like a second job/life.

Also the biggest sense I get out of Nordenwatch's recent barrage of "please look at me" spam threads is that he's kind of regretting his RMT ways and would like to play again in Velious.

[fadetree]

This is not new information. Some of us have played EconomyQuest off and on for quite a while over the years. Most people don't like it, though. It takes patience. lots and lots of patience. RMT is a different issue, not everybody who is making monies in EC is going to turn around and RMT it. And EC quest is not evil, and it doesn't necessarily drive the prices up. If anything, it drives them down and increases availability.

[Wudan]

Yeah. I'm the one who is taking this too seriously.

:rolleyes:


Like I said, I'm not approving of RMT. But he's banned, and the people who bought his stuff are banned. Granted, it must suck for the staff to have to spend much of their time dealing with this stuff. But, despite what you might think, Nord isn't going to end up in the 9th circle of hell next to Judas, Brutus, and Cassius because he RMTed plat on P99.

Ok, we get it. You aint mad at him, you understand his actions. You are turning at those who are mad at him...probably because you are gonna do the same when you decide to quit . Greedy fucks who need to hoard houndreds 1000s of pp, farming shit out of everything ruin this game. Fucking money grabbers.....goback to soloing hs south, collect more plat u dont need so u can rmt it later

[rollin5k]

so pretty much play religiously from inception of server. Haha i don't know it kind of seems like it might be a waste of time. Id get bored with it too

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I should mention it's still a scummy thing to do when you leave. Better feels if you just give it away.

[Kekephee]

Your analogy is a bit off, anyways. This is more like you collecting leftover popcorn inside the theatre before you leave because you enjoy doing that in and of itself, and then when you leave the theatre and wonder wtf you're going to do with all that popcorn, you realize that there are people lined up waiting to pay you for it.

THAT'S GROSS


NORDENWATCH IS GROSS

[daasgoot]

It appears you've run out of defenses regarding our original point of contention: that those condemning Nord's actions "need to step back for a bit of perspective".

Must not have been such a strong point, eh?

Anyway, I should probably quit messing with you. I mean, you're playing on Red now, right? That's a pretty strong indicator that your life is not going well and that you're an idiotic idiot.

^

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[Lojik]

Is Nordenwatch the original owner of Noogar? Is he the origin of the young doctor meme?

[Supaskillz]

sitting in ec(or nfp) buying and selling items is as classic as it gets, but also most boring way to play eq imo. More power to you though if this is fun for you. You can take advantage of my "laziness" and I will go have fun while playing this game

[rollin5k]

yea i always go to ec and try to sell items i get bored as hell and cut the prices down so i can get away everytime.
EC is rad though

[Pint]

What happened to that baller guised ranger acct? You rmting 10 million isn't all that surprising but you deserve the firing squad if you got that acct banned!

[Wrench]

What happened to that baller guised ranger acct? You rmting 10 million isn't all that surprising but you deserve the firing squad if you got that acct banned!

guises a dime a dozen

however the bard with oogly stick, thats tragic

[Lojik]

What happened to that baller guised ranger acct? You rmting 10 million isn't all that surprising but you deserve the firing squad if you got that acct banned!

http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/u/u/thumbs/2012/Dec/15/d4cbc414b28f_sf_8.jpg

Severely damaged my Mars Bar

[Champion_Standing]

Brilliant and well thought out guide.

I can't believe you felt the need to write 2 fucking pages.

[Supaskillz]

Brilliant and well thought you guide.

I can't believe you felt the need to write 2 fucking pages.

Forum quest helps with the pain of withdrawal.

[fastboy21]

you forgot the point where playing the game ruined your life...

maybe if you hadn't been aimlessly pursuing endless amounts of platinum you would have played less and (ironically) enjoyed the game more.

this is a guide for someone that wants EQ to be their life until it burns them out and the only solution is to quit a game that used to be the most fun thing in the world for you.

[Mirana]

To summarize:

1) Farm money
2) Twink a powerful class
3) Camp expensive items
4) Buy/Sell in EC tunnel

Profound stuff, definitely the first to suggest such unorthodox strategies for acquiring wealth.

HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS MYSELF?!?!?!?

[Kekephee]

guises a dime a dozen

however the bard with oogly stick, thats tragic

This has always been a major daydream of mine and the suggestion that there actually was someone who had this and it is now gone for some reason is really, really ruining my day

[fastboy21]

Getting your first fungi tunic in EC...100k,

Selling all of your virtual gear earned over four years...$400,

Realizing that you've ruined your life over-playing EQ...priceless.

[Tecmos Deception]

So much mad in this thread, good lord.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

To summarize:

1) Farm money
2) Twink a powerful class
3) Camp expensive items
4) Buy/Sell in EC tunnel

Profound stuff, definitely the first to suggest such unorthodox strategies for acquiring wealth.

HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS MYSELF?!?!?!?

It truly is astounding when you look it.

Buy low THEN sell high?? Truly this is some futuristic year 3000 economics.

[Enxienty]

So much mad in this thread, good lord.

No offense but weren't you flaming people hard who got banned for RMT the first day the bans went out?

[Tecmos Deception]

No offense but weren't you flaming people hard who got banned for RMT the first day the bans went out?

Maybe, I don't remember! Remember that I've specifically said I'm not supporting rmt, I'm just giving shit to the people who are trying to put curses on nord's children's children for what he did (and was punished for) instead of being sane about this and just saying "good riddance" and moving on.

It is hardly even about rmt for some of these dudes. They stretch this into rants about farming pp, playing the market in ec, and making rl attacks because obviously someone who is rich on p99 is just trying to compensate for a small penis irl, etc.

[Destron]

Tecmos, this is a free server. The least you can do is respect the staff's wishes regarding RMT. Barkingturtle is right: the problem is that too many people treat this game like a second job/life.


Biggest problem is people being critical of different playstyles.

[sulpher01]

The RMT was selfish, but no more selfish than 98% of P99ers would have been if they were in his shoes. If more than a handful of you could say, honestly, "Well, I'm 110% fed up with p99 and I intend to quit... and instead of making several thousand dollars by RMTing my vast ingame riches, I'm just going to quit/give away stuff/whatever" ... I'd be shocked.

Well that's not true... granted it's probably the majority that would sell it, but I had 3 RL friend's who have quit over the years and all 3 logged on and gave their stuff away in EC and I can think of a ton of instances of random people doing the same. 98% my ass... lets go with 75? ;p

[Spitty]

Banned for RMT?

Really?

What a waste of my fucking time farming shit with you.

[zanderklocke]

Not commenting one way or the other although I do find RMT to be problematic.

I think it's interesting that the prenerf fungi staff you bought from Stabbyjoe was stolen from Platlord and then now you, Stabbyjoe, and Platlord and the items are all banned.

I think Stabbyjoe stole that guised ranger account back...not sure if that character was one of Stabby's banned chars now.

Somehow Mythoxxus, the troll bard, is back in the hands of original Mythoxxus after being banned and then sold back to the original owner by Stabbyjoe. Not sure if that character is banned now.

So many under the table transactions and RMT items and characters moving around.

[Enxienty]

Maybe, I don't remember! Remember that I've specifically said I'm not supporting rmt, I'm just giving shit to the people who are trying to put curses on nord's children's children for what he did (and was punished for) instead of being sane about this and just saying "good riddance" and moving on.

It is hardly even about rmt for some of these dudes. They stretch this into rants about farming pp, playing the market in ec, and making rl attacks because obviously someone who is rich on p99 is just trying to compensate for a small penis irl, etc.


Lmfaoooo fair response

[Lune]

Maybe, I don't remember! Remember that I've specifically said I'm not supporting rmt, I'm just giving shit to the people who are trying to put curses on nord's children's children for what he did (and was punished for) instead of being sane about this and just saying "good riddance" and moving on.

It is hardly even about rmt for some of these dudes. They stretch this into rants about farming pp, playing the market in ec, and making rl attacks because obviously someone who is rich on p99 is just trying to compensate for a small penis irl, etc.

^ He's right. The anti-wealth hysteria is pretty nonsensical. There is nothing wrong with playing the market, imo. You think it raises the prices for other players? Maybe it does, but shit's classic. Find out who the flippers are and don't buy from them.

But you say you don't condone RMT. Why are you so tolerant of people who do (Nord)? I feel like you're torn between defending someone you can empathize with, and your inherent good nature. Of course RL attacks are unwarranted and immature, but this is forum-quest, and it's not RNF, so mine were light.

Nord won't admit what he did was wrong, or harmful. He equivocates. That reflects on his integrity and it's problematic because it persists as long as he continues to post here. People should not perceive RMT as a legitimate out.

[Barkingturtle]

For the record, I personally have no qualms with the wealthy. My new shadowknight has probably 200k of crap on him. I'm ballin' and ain't even mad. I'm very calm, because I'm not twisting my logic into pretzels in order to mitigate the bad deeds of my pals.

[Detoxx]

If the A-Team does it, its ok.

[Nordenwatch]

To be clear: I don't advocate for future RMT. The staff has made it CLEAR that you will be banned for doing it and this will help to curb the market significantly. The only thing that kept RMT going was the fact that it was "against the rules" but there was effectively no punishment going around for RMT. This kept the prices high which made it attractive to sellers, and the fact that noone was getting banned bolstered the illegitimate economy even further. Public actions like this will deter many people from buying plat.

My past guildmates are defending me personally rather than my actions. I've got a pretty stellar track record other than this, even GMs agree. I NEVER took "advantage" of them, and as Tecmos says I probably did a lot of the work to get and hold these camps.

[Spitty]

You know what, I'm just going to say good riddance.

[Nordenwatch]

I'm looking to smoothly transition into post-banned forumquest like so many others, get off my nuts spitulski swallows we had good times

[Leeyuuduu]

My past guildmates are defending me personally rather than my actions. I've got a pretty stellar track record other than this, even GMs agree. I NEVER took "advantage" of them



Banned for RMT?

Really?

What a waste of my fucking time farming shit with you.
__________________
[60 ORACLE] SPITULSKI <The A-Team>

[August]

This whole thread is hilarious.

People so mad at Nord, Nord acting like it was OK.

It's just a game, people. I think that most people, given the opportunity to profit from a game world in the real world, would happily do it.

Most people are broke, though.

[Barkingturtle]

My past guildmates are defending me personally rather than my actions.

Uh...you, me, all of us; we are nothing but the sum of our actions.

Your actions have made it apparent: you lack character.

You came over, splashed around in the pool and had a good time. Then when you were ready to leave, you pooped in the pool and made all manner of excuses for your loose anus. In this analogy, your anus symbolizes your moral compass.

[Nordenwatch]

But you can't say that he "used" any of us in A-Team. It's not like he was farming king with us for ages and not splitting the plat evenly. If anything he probably should have been entitled to more than 50%, since he was usually the one who checked on the camp constantly in order for us to get it in the first place and was willing/able to play different classes to make the duo work, etc. And as far as farming something for plat being greedy? Please. The steady farming of king 18+ hours a day for a year+ is the only reason anyone OTHER than someone like Nord or Greeny or Jeremy could even afford a tunic. And the vast majority of the people who fall into the "i want a fungi but i won't/can't buy one" group were never even online to even try the camp (let alone online AND able to put together a capable group for the camp) most of the time we were farming king.


im a hero

[HeallunRumblebelly]

If the A-Team does it, its ok.

The A Team will have epics!~

http://youtu.be/ZCAln8j1kMk?t=2m8s

[Tecmos Deception]

Well that's not true... granted it's probably the majority that would sell it, but I had 3 RL friend's who have quit over the years and all 3 logged on and gave their stuff away in EC and I can think of a ton of instances of random people doing the same. 98% my ass... lets go with 75? ;p

When I said 98% of people in Nord's position would RMT, I didn't mean 98% of people who quit would RMT. I meant 98% of people who quit while having 10 million plat of wealth on the server would RMT.

Fortunately for the people still playing and the staff, probably only like 5 people on the server have that much money, so they are easy to keep tabs on! :)

[sulpher01]

When I said 98% of people in Nord's position would RMT, I didn't mean 98% of people who quit would RMT. I meant 98% of people who quit while having 10 million plat of wealth on the server would RMT.

Fortunately for the people still playing and the staff, probably only like 5 people on the server have that much money, so they are easy to keep tabs on! :)

Ah ok, that ill buy :p

[radditsu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHowbU5D6Qo

[Danth]

Original post strikes me as a really long-winded way of saying "Don't have a life outside Everquest." I'd rather be poor in a video game than do all that crap. More power to you if you have the patience, I suppose.


Danth

[Lojik]

When I said 98% of people in Nord's position would RMT, I didn't mean 98% of people who quit would RMT. I meant 98% of people who quit while having 10 million plat of wealth on the server would RMT.

Fortunately for the people still playing and the staff, probably only like 5 people on the server have that much money, so they are easy to keep tabs on! :)

I don't know if I really buy that. While what he did may not be "scum of the earth," that money has to come from somewhere. He was in a position where RMTing for him had very little (if any) consequence. I'm sure he knew the risk that the other people were taking was much higher, and that these people were likely to get caught. I am not defending people who bought RMTed goods, but essentially he profited off of their loss, knowing that these people would never know who he was IRL and he would face no RL consequences. I hope he at least donated a portion of the proceeds to the server project.

[Waedawen]

The RMT was selfish, but no more selfish than 98% of P99ers would have been if they were in his shoes. If more than a handful of you could say, honestly, "Well, I'm 110% fed up with p99 and I intend to quit... and instead of making several thousand dollars by RMTing my vast ingame riches, I'm just going to quit/give away stuff/whatever" ... I'd be shocked


Not everyone is a lonely sperglord who attributes real happiness to pixels

[skipdog]

I still can't believe people here would give up thousands of real life dollars when quitting because 'i love the community and RMT is evil and I would never do a thing like that because i have morals!!!'

I'm sorry, but there is literally ZERO downside(that actually matter to a person quitting) to RMT'ing away your great wealth when you quit playing on this server. I mean, there is nothing outside of these forums and outside of the game that can possibly happen to you. Heck, I'd go as far as saying that you are an IDIOT if you quit on this server with millions in plat and don't try to cash out.

It's such a farce and anybody who believes these people who 'wouldn't take thousands of dollars when quitting' are fucking delusional.

[Nordenwatch]

the vast majority of you calling me out on it would have done the exact same thing... its 10 million not 50k

[Waedawen]

Is Nordenwatch the original owner of Noogar? Is he the origin of the young doctor meme?

Yes he owned Noogar, but jesus fucking christ do not even begin to give him that much credit for starting Young

[Lojik]

the vast majority of you calling me out on it would have done the exact same thing... its 10 million not 50k

Who knows what people would/would not do in a situation that has not happened to them. Maybe you're right, maybe I would do the exact same thing. I don't think I would but hey who knows. But, is it true or is it false that you made between $10,000 and $20,000 of other peoples money who now have nothing to show for it?

[pharmakos]

did you at least buy something cool with the money, norden?

[Red_Psyphon]

Lol scumbags

[Potus]

Thanks for the many years of fun. Also for the record during the years I played, I graduated from university and got into law school. EQ did not ruin my life!

Haha don't worry, you've ruined your life, you just don't know it yet.

[billpaleq]

I would have done the same thing Nord. You invested a lot of time and you are trying to recoup some of it. This is no different then selling an old trophy at a garage sale.

Good Luck

[Lune]

the vast majority of you calling me out on it would have done the exact same thing... its 10 million not 50k

You keep saying that like it makes it any less of a scummy thing to do. We all understand the immense temptation you faced.

I wish you'd at least be forward and say the words:

"I'm a criminal, and I have no remorse for what I did because I hypothesize other people in the same position might have done it too. The personal gain was just too tempting. I'd say I'm sorry for screwing you over, but I'm not sorry."

(Warning, incoming hyperbole)

I guess if you hate the world and you feel like killing yourself, why not shoot up a school first, right?

[Red_Psyphon]

He was here for 3 years, im guessin there was no temptation. Hes just a bottom feeder that seen the demand from other people who "don't have time" to play but will play if they have advantages over the basic aspects of the game. You were here for profit from the beginning not for fun. Stay gone

[Whirled]

Just gonna drop this here like Zoidberg would and walk away....
http://www.dalailama.com/messages/compassion

[YendorLootmonkey]

You came over, splashed around in the pool and had a good time. Then when you were ready to leave, you pooped in the pool and made all manner of excuses for your loose anus. In this analogy, your anus symbolizes your moral compass.

I feel like this post did not get enough credit... I lol'd.

[Waedawen]

My past guildmates are defending me personally rather than my actions. I've got a pretty stellar track record other than this, even GMs agree. I NEVER took "advantage" of them, and as Tecmos says I probably did a lot of the work to get and hold these camps.

No one is defending you.

also: The A Team will have epics!~

http://youtu.be/ZCAln8j1kMk?t=2m8s


That is the funniest shit I have ever seen in all of 4 years of forumquest. Especially bearing in mind the few years before TMO even existed.

[Spitty]

No one is defending you.

Also, hi Petros!

[Waedawen]

It's such a farce and anybody who believes these people who 'wouldn't take thousands of dollars when quitting' are fucking delusional.

Thieves call thieves thieves. Pot, kettle, black. Etc, etc.

Just because you're a knuckle dragging scumbag doesn't mean someone else is. If I had 10 mill and was about to quit I would Johnny Appleseed CoF's all across the fucking land.

Try to find someone who would say I wouldn't.

y0y0y0 spitty

[Crawdad]

Further evidence we don't deserve p99. Depending on where you live, making ~$10k off other peoples' labor of love doesn't always pan out so great.

[Splorf22]

You came over, splashed around in the pool and had a good time. Then when you were ready to leave, you pooped in the pool and made all manner of excuses for your loose anus. In this analogy, your anus symbolizes your moral compass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxiXGr9nFM

No one is defending you.

Tecmos kind of is, but then he plays on red now. If red were a pool, it would be so full of poop that any remaining water evaporated in disgust long ago.

[JayN]

I feel bad for people like this, they are literally insane. They can not play a game for fun, but must make it some kind of net gains issue.

Pras for one less shit bag in the sandbox

[Nastinate]

Personally I always liked u nord, you kinda shit all over us legit players tho and continue to with these posts.

[Nordenwatch]

Its not like I started out thinking I was going to RMT all the money I made. I made the decision at the very end, when I quit. I played the game for what it was for many years and never even thought about it.

Legit players can keep playing! Forumquest is all I got now.

[Hailto]

How much money did you actually make Nordenwatch?

[Glenzig]

Why do t the devs ban the forum account of RMTers also??

[loramin]

Why do t the devs ban the forum account of RMTers also??

Dunno for sure, but let's say they did ban the forum account: the RMTer could just start a new one. A forum account isn't like a game account (the only thing they have to lose is a post count, no gear/exp/faction), so there is basically no benefit to making them do that, and it would require more work for the GMs.

Plus I suppose there's a nice aspect to letting "killed off" players haunt the forums and serve as an example to new players of what not to do.

[Waedawen]

Its not like I started out thinking I was going to RMT all the money I made. I made the decision at the very end, when I quit. I played the game for what it was for many years and never even thought about it.

Holy crap that makes it even more pathetic.

[Nordenwatch]

.

[Lamil]

Sweet Jack

[Pint]

some of you guys must make a lot of spare $ irl

[daasgoot]

.

I hope your licences plate is EQRMT or something along those lines.

[Pint]

I hope your licences plate is EQRMT or something along those lines.

he would probably get assaulted when one of these guys sees him irl and has a man child fit

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

How do you plan on tanking the IRS with no gear?

[Nordenwatch]

How do you plan on tanking the IRS with no gear?

charm

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

charm

Best answer.

Good luck pal.

[August]

Just FYI to all of those who may be considering RMT.

If you do RMT, you better file your gains. It is considered income. Back in 2004 I used to ferry money using Sony's "Legends" server basically using it as a ForEX market.

I ended up making enough in about 9 months to buy my first car and store a large chunk of change to pay for college.

Being 17 I wasn't really used to the idea of 'taxes' because previous to this my positions had been 'lawn cutter' and a lifeguard gig that paid $5.80 an hour.

It backfired pretty badly because my father was a sole proprietor of his own company and wound up undergoing an audit. Since I was technically his dependent at the time they ended up uncovering that I had made this sum of money that no one had paid taxes on, and it blew up as a whole ordeal that we basically got out of because I was a minor at the time.

If I had been 18, apparently it would have been tax evasion... so... you know, be safe.

Also inb4 RMT scum it was 10 years ago.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Just FYI to all of those who may be considering RMT.

If you do RMT, you better file your gains. It is considered income. Back in 2004 I used to ferry money using Sony's "Legends" server basically using it as a ForEX market.

I ended up making enough in about 9 months to buy my first car and store a large chunk of change to pay for college.

Being 17 I wasn't really used to the idea of 'taxes' because previous to this my positions had been 'lawn cutter' and a lifeguard gig that paid $5.80 an hour.

It backfired pretty badly because my father was a sole proprietor of his own company and wound up undergoing an audit. Since I was technically his dependent at the time they ended up uncovering that I had made this sum of money that no one had paid taxes on, and it blew up as a whole ordeal that we basically got out of because I was a minor at the time.

If I had been 18, apparently it would have been tax evasion... so... you know, be safe.

Also inb4 RMT scum it was 10 years ago.

Ur scum n shud dai

[Lune]

http://i.imgur.com/JJRPIs5.jpg

[Glenzig]

http://i.imgur.com/JJRPIs5.jpg

Well he didn't end up in prison either. So I guess it wasn't really immoral or illegal and didn't hurt anyone. That's all that counts right??

[loramin]

Well he didn't end up in prison either. So I guess it wasn't really immoral or illegal and didn't hurt anyone. That's all that counts right??

If you mean he didn't physically hurt anyone, then sure. But he hurt everyone who honestly participates in the Project 1999 economy (and hurts the devs that have worked so hard to keep this a clean server).

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

If you mean he didn't physically hurt anyone, then sure. But he hurt everyone who honestly participates in the Project 1999 economy (and hurts the devs that have worked so hard to keep this a clean server).

This. But he lost everything and now it's over.

Let this be a warning to the other buyers/sellers

[radditsu]

People who care about fake money in a fake world that they have no authority over said world really lack perspective and should take a step back. Realize being upset over a game is YOUR problem. Not the issue of others. The staff have a vested interest in keeping whistles clean. All others only have an interest in ethics... and those opinions do not matter.

[loramin]

This. But he lost everything and now it's over.

Well, except the car.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Well, except the car.

Itsatroll.jpg

[loramin]

People who care about fake money in a fake world that they have no authority over said world really lack perspective and should take a step back. Realize being upset over a game is YOUR problem. Not the issue of others. The staff have a vested interest in keeping whistles clean. All others only have an interest in ethics... and those opinions do not matter.

I totally agree with the getting upset part, and the general sentiment that this is a game not a moral quandry. But c'mon, you can't pretend that RMTers don't significantly impact the economy that the rest of us (honestly) participate in. That seems like an legitimate interest to me.

[Glenzig]

If you mean he didn't physically hurt anyone, then sure. But he hurt everyone who honestly participates in the Project 1999 economy (and hurts the devs that have worked so hard to keep this a clean server).

Sarcasm!!!!

[Champion_Standing]

If you mean he didn't physically hurt anyone, then sure. But he hurt everyone who honestly participates in the Project 1999 economy (and hurts the devs that have worked so hard to keep this a clean server).

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JN5xzG8-dr8/UwOefm5E-bI/AAAAAAAADfk/_5NWFHJ-shk/s1600/41806-Emma-Stone-are-you-crying-gif-71rm.gif

[Ahldagor]

so nordenwatch got a one month's worth of a car payment from years of p99. sounds like a good investment there

[Tiggles]

so nordenwatch got a one month's worth of a car payment from years of p99. sounds like a good investment there

That's what always makes me laugh about these RMT players who say they made a few grand cashing out.

It amounts to Pennies an hour when you combine all the time you sat haggling in the tunnels.

[Splorf22]

That's what always makes me laugh about these RMT players who say they made a few grand cashing out.

It amounts to Pennies an hour when you combine all the time you sat haggling in the tunnels.

I bet Nordenwatch cashed out his 10M pp for something like $20,000. If he had 100 days of playing time, that works out to $8 per hour if I am doing my math correctly. That's a McDonald's level wage, but it isn't pennies.

[Kekephee]

Not a bad way to make 8 dollars an hour

I worked at blockbuster making more or less that and I was wishing I was playing EQ every hour

[Tiggles]

I bet Nordenwatch cashed out his 10M pp for something like $20,000. If he had 100 days of playing time, that works out to $8 per hour if I am doing my math correctly. That's a McDonald's level wage, but it isn't pennies.

He ripped off someone something fierce then if you think he got 20k the buyers are the ones taking the risk and there's really only 2 games in town that would buy that much upfront.

Even if he did he made minimum wage for 3 years seems great.

Likely he made half that and he wants to hang himself because he's an addict for ec tunnel.

[Snackies]

MY HUMAN NECRO FRIEND I MADE A HUMAN NECRO BECAUSE OF YOU!! :(

[loramin]

I MADE A HUMAN NECRO
:eek:

[Superjiff]

Well he could have nuRb converted to Polly and then subdivided I guess... Err wait, wrong forum.

[Lojik]

He ripped off someone something fierce then if you think he got 20k the buyers are the ones taking the risk and there's really only 2 games in town that would buy that much upfront.

Even if he did he made minimum wage for 3 years seems great.

Likely he made half that and he wants to hang himself because he's an addict for ec tunnel.

I have a feeling it came out to between $2 or $4 per hour.

[Nordenwatch]

Hourly calculations are not worth doing. The time I spent playing EQ I enjoyed, it was definitely not "work" in any sense.

[Ahldagor]

I have a feeling it came out to between $2 or $4 per hour.


figure 3 to 8 hours a day

this is with a 20k cash out (theorized from previous posts)
3 hours a day play= 6.09 an hour
8 hours a day play= 2.28 an hour

here's (theorized) 10k cash out
3hrs = 3.04 an hour
8hrs = 1.41 an hour

[Nordenwatch]

no question about the fact that its probably chinese gold farmer level salary if you really do the math

[Nordenwatch]

RMT is not a good way to make money at all, definitely don't quit your job to play EQ full time

[Ahldagor]

Hourly calculations are not worth doing. The time I spent playing EQ I enjoyed, it was definitely not "work" in any sense.

typical spineless, selfish, narcissistic american. 'cept you forgot that license to steal bit

[olderj]

I bet Nordenwatch cashed out his 10M pp for something like $20,000. If he had 100 days of playing time, that works out to $8 per hour if I am doing my math correctly. That's a McDonald's level wage, but it isn't pennies.

This blows my mind. Who the hell has this kind of cash that they would be willing to throw away at an emulated game?

[Ahldagor]

This blows my mind. Who the hell has this kind of cash that they would be willing to throw away at an emulated game?

same mentality that people have buying wow vanity pets from blizz....

[jaybone]

Lotta mad people in this thread lol

[bktroost]

The only solution is to ban Necros. All of them.

[Nicolas Cage]

Lotta mad people in this thread lol

[Laugher]

quote

tbh when I saw this name I thought there was going to be something about National Treasure when I clicked on this thread.

[Nicolas Cage]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m531tczzCY1rozti5o1_500.gif

[quido]

I could eat a peach for hours.

[Sarajo]

13 pages later, and the only argument in support of this RMTer that wasn't just some appeal to popularity like "everyone would do the same thing if in his position" was:
"You should be thanking him for proliferating fungi on your pathetic server, peasant"

This implies that fungi, and the kind of people who wear them, somehow improve game quality for everyone. Come on, Tecmos, a fungi just serves the same purpose as mercenaries: letting non-solo classes go solo (like a solo artisté!)

Or, more importantly: they are a way to make lots of plat to RMT, if you're the worst kind of person: someone who exploits others' hard work for personal gain. Stop being an apologist for the RMTer's actions; what RMTers do is jack up prices to make the rest of the population work harder in order to gain more plat (ALL of which originated with a quest or mob, remember?) to sell for more cash.

[Kekephee]

Tooooo late

Toooooo late

TOOOO LATE TOOOOO LATE TOOOOO LATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85DWpP2Tu0

[Arteker]

MY HUMAN NECRO FRIEND I MADE A HUMAN NECRO BECAUSE OF YOU!! :(

i always though as oldest human necro u did because me and no this dude who liked to get his corpses in threes.

[daasgoot]

i always though as oldest human necro u did because me and no this dude who liked to get his corpses in threes.

what?

[Laugher]

Tooooo late

Toooooo late

TOOOO LATE TOOOOO LATE TOOOOO LATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85DWpP2Tu0

Lmao good movie

[Fame]

briefly skimmed thread, all I can say is, Tecmos, we're your family now :D

[Bazia]

As if the rest of you wouldn't take like 7,000$ instead of nothing when you decided to quit playing.

Good for you Norden, good for you.

[Wudan]

As if the rest of you wouldn't take like 7,000$ instead of nothing when you decided to quit playing.

Good for you Norden, good for you.

The fact is 99,9% of people dont spend all their time on p99 hoarding millions of plat they dont really need so no, most people would not even think about it, because they actually spend their time PLAYING the fucking game...

WTF do you need 10mil plat for? I personally hate these pricks who feel the need to collect riches just for the sake of it. This aint no fucking RL and you aint no fucking Donald Trump! Im pretty sure he had the plan of liquidating somewhere in the back of his head from the get go, otherwise I dont see ANY reason to hoard so much plat by doing the most boring aspects of the game: EC tunnel, seafuries, camping king for 10hrs a day... and dont tell me about respecting other play styles, I dont consider making millions of pp play style, I consider it a fucking job! If these activities are "fun", you have probably had a lobotomy done recently...

This guy spend 4 years "working" on this FREE server, he used and abused the project, developers and the community and basically wiped the ass with everyone. I totally expect his defender Tecmos to follow his path and sell out when he decides to quit.... he is another fun character who likes to hoard cash by farming the shit out of / monopolizing certain content, HS south anyone? He gets all bend out of shape in every way possible when people express their disappointment, anger or hate towards Nord - guess why?

Ateam stinks

[Bazia]

They collect plat because they find it fun, how dare they have fun in a different way then you

[Tecmos Deception]

You're fucking blind, Wudan. I'd say more, but it's all wasted on you and those like you anyways.

[Bazia]

once you hit 60 on red and are routinely pushing peoples shit in you won't care what blue players think anyway tecmos

killing 20 y/o ai forever is boring + dumb

[Wudan]

They collect plat because they find it fun, how dare they have fun in a different way then you

the reason being...? Oh I forgot, collecting pp in game and liquidating is fun!

[Bazia]

They probably like having the ability to obtain almost any item in the game they want

Although I don't understand everyones motives unlike you who is apparently psychic

[Wudan]

You're fucking blind, Wudan. I'd say more, but it's all wasted on you and those like you anyways.

yea im fucking blind and you are all seeing eye.....get the fuck out of here man! I lost a lot of respect for you after reading you posts itd. They make NO FUCKING SENSE! Why would you turn on those who been shit on by your friend just because they express their feeling about his actions? And you exaggerate when describing their reaction...

bend all out of shape my ass dude :/ You are defending scum so dont be suprised you look like one to others

[Wudan]

They probably like having the ability to obtain almost any item in the game they want

Although I don't understand everyones motives unlike you who is apparently psychic

whatever, you keep defeding RMT if it makes you happy and yeah, I am a psychic, so I know you actually wanted to say

Iam boring + dumb

so there ya go, i fixed it for you!

[Tecmos Deception]

I used to farm because of it was fun for me. Now I'm going to farm to make you cry more, Wudan. But I guess that'll be fun too, really!

[Nordenwatch]

They probably like having the ability to obtain almost any item in the game they want

Although I don't understand everyones motives unlike you who is apparently psychic

this is a part of it. Having the best possible droppables on a bunch of different characters is another part of it. Remember, I wasn't holding 10 million in plat...

[Wudan]

I used to farm because of it was fun for me. Now I'm going to farm to make you cry more, Wudan. But I guess that'll be fun too, really!

farm all you want, I dont care. I care if you are gonna RMT it, you get it? Are you going to liquidate too? You dont seem to be opposed to it. I dont cry, cause im not really effected. Im angry, becuase i respect this project, its developers and community and turds like Nord are ruining it... I guess you have a different opinion, otherwise you would not fucking defend him. It is you who is fucking blind...

[Tecmos Deception]

farm all you want, I dont care.

Oh really?

I personally hate these pricks who feel the need to collect riches just for the sake of it.

[Wudan]

Oh really? nice job ripping it out of context....



Answer the question. Are you going to liquidate? What is your stand on this? Why do you defend RMT scum?

[Tecmos Deception]

You don't deserve any more answers. I already answered those questions before, but you were blind to what I had to say :)

[Wudan]

this is a part of it. Having the best possible droppables on a bunch of different characters is another part of it. Remember, I wasn't holding 10 million in plat...

and what is the other part? OCD? gtfo already, you are done

[Wudan]

You don't deserve any more answers. I already answered those questions before, but you were blind to what I had to say :)

dude you are so full of shit, its pretty sad :(

[Tecmos Deception]

The context of that quote was you making RL attacks because you don't understand how someone could have fun being rich in p99... lol.

[Nordenwatch]

I was also thinking of velious and was saving a bankroll for that. I mean its pretty reasonable I'd say, lots of people do exactly the same thing, maybe to a lesser scale.

How do you have fun in EQ? doing random quests and learning languages and shit like that?

[Tecmos Deception]

Witch hunts, it looks like, Nord. He's given up on you and your actual rule violation in favor of harassing me! :)

I quit the early-am forumquesting now though. My pet just ate half of the xp from a kill and then all of my rune 5 because I was paying more attention to this than the game. Hey Wudan! I'm gonna be rich on BOTH servers pretty soon!! Maybe I'll have to make a new thread when I hit 1 million pp on red and contrast it with my 1 million pp on blue screenshot for fun!

[Wudan]

The context of that quote was you making RL attacks because you don't understand how someone could have fun being rich in p99... lol.

RL attacks? bitch please.... You need to get your head examined. Also learn how to read. You obviously did not get the point, probably a self defending mechanism ...

[Wudan]

Witch hunts, it looks like, Nord. He's given up on you and your actual rule violation in favor of harassing me! :)

I quit the early-am forumquesting now though. My pet just ate half of the xp from a kill and then all of my rune 5 because I was paying more attention to this than the game. Hey Wudan! I'm gonna be rich on BOTH servers pretty soon!! Maybe I'll have to make a new thread when I hit 1 million pp on red and contrast it with my 1 million pp on blue screenshot for fun!



confirmed retard

[marcjpb]

For people tl:dr
- Buy low, sell high
- Find easy MQ quest like Rogue Epic or HS key.

[Wudan]

How do you have fun in EQ? doing random quests and learning languages and shit like that?

It does not matter, what matters is that unlike you, I dont liquidate my free EQ fun majority of people here does not! I get it, you like making money. Cool. Why shit on everything that allowed you to actually have fun here and play the game for free? Dont you feel like scum for doing this? I guess you dont. Wtf did not you keep it for velious then if that was the reason of your hoarding?

liar and scum

P.S. lets not forget this: you got many innocent people banned and put staff in really bad situation.

I can't tell you how frustrating it is as a CSR to have to ban people who might be innocent. That is the problem - there is no way for me to know beyond a shadow of the doubt that you are telling the truth.


nice job jerk

Harm the project? You used me to catch a bunch of cheaters, if anything I'm a hero.

This is the kind of selfish attitude/behavior that gets your face smashed in IRL. You hurt a lot of people and then you have the nerv to mock them. You would not dare doign this kind of shit IRL

[Galvatar]

I'd like to think that my reputation here was pretty solid prior to all this, and thus the A-team should have no problems having had me as an officer.

For the love of God, just walk away. Multiple threads dude?

[Wudan]

For the love of God, just walk away. Multiple threads dude?

he likes to stay around rubbing salt in the wound, Tecmos standing by with a grin on his shitty face. Ateam represent

[Tecmos Deception]

confirmed retard

RL attacks? bitch please....


Back to back posts, even!

[Waedawen]

How do you have fun in EQ?


Well, if you have these things called "Friends," something great happens. Anything you do, like kicking a rock in the road, or climbing up a rope, or playing Everquest magically becomes this thing called "Fun"

In order to do this mythical thing called "have fun" first you have to "have friends"... which doesn't really appeal to borderline psychopaths

Back to back posts, even!

Calling someone a retard in no way implies a "RL attack", you retard. It implies a lack of basic reading comprehension.

[Galvatar]

Sociopath, he's a sociopath.

[Wudan]

Back to back posts, even!

I guess we have different understanding about what rl attack is

Punching you in the face is a rl attack, telling the truth aint. Mkay?

Calling someone a retard in no way implies a "RL attack", you retard. It implies a lack of basic reading comprehension.

well said

[Wudan]

Hey Wudan! I'm gonna be rich on BOTH servers pretty soon!! Maybe I'll have to make a new thread when I hit 1 million pp on red and contrast it with my 1 million pp on blue screenshot for fun!

You are a child. Your brain has not yet developed to its full potential. Grow up.

[Barkingturtle]

Punching you in the face is a rl attack, telling the truth aint. Mkay?


Calling Tecmos a retard on a message board could be construed as a real-life attack, but only if Tecmos is actually retarded, or if he in fact exists in a reality which is encompassed entirely by said message board.

[Wudan]

Calling Tecmos a retard on a message board could be construed as a real-life attack, but only if Tecmos is actually retarded, or if he in fact exists in a reality which is encompassed entirely by said message board.

haha ok, ty :D then I guess I did rl attack him :p

[Tiggles]

It's just a matter of time before Tecmo's and half of A-Team gets busted for RMT. They "borrowed" extensive(millions) of plat from Nordenwatch so they could collect rotting loots from TMO when we farmed VP. Look at Tecmos and Saki-whatever and those other retards.

You know 100% they where paying Norden's Mcdonalds bill in the guise of "Guild bank funds" so they could gear out characters and pretend they matter. That's how they avoided the bans because it looks legit when it's kept between the guild.

This is the 100% truth it will come out in time.


Move this thread to RnF.

[Galvatar]

Tiggles,

I doubt it, being a member of the guild myself. I will admit I take some small satisfaction in all the times I called Scrooge McDuck out on his insatiable lust for platinum and drops after this, but I didn't expect him to RMT (at least until after Velious).

Scumbags be scumbags, at least by the numbers I deal with a lot less in my guild than you do every day.

[Vraji]

While on the topic of RMT when I did play on P99 I bought about 600,000pp from Durison when he ripped TMOs banks (I found out after the fact). In addition I bought Fefifofum from him too along with a few other items.

I used Fefifofum for awhile to PL an SK to 45 (2boxing the whole time) then sold her for 100k+pp. The SK was decked in some of the best dropables and I got to enjoy a side of eq I never got to when I played live: a fungi for starters - dream of mine.

I then got over P99 because of the jokes that play on the server - I am looking at most of TMO btw - and ended up selling all my items etc to make pp which came to BOUT 800kpp and cashed out richer then when I bought it from Durison.

------

Plus with what Durison told me friggen half of TMO rmts - he freely admitted it was an rmt guild.

[Vraji]

Good times - wish I had time to play EQ again.

[Tiggles]

While on the topic of RMT when I did play on P99 I bought about 600,000pp from Durison when he ripped TMOs banks (I found out after the fact). In addition I bought Fefifofum from him too along with a few other items.

I used Fefifofum for awhile to PL an SK to 45 (2boxing the whole time) then sold her for 100k+pp. The SK was decked in some of the best dropables and I got to enjoy a side of eq I never got to when I played live: a fungi for starters - dream of mine.

I then got over P99 because of the jokes that play on the server - I am looking at most of TMO btw - and ended up selling all my items etc to make pp which came to BOUT 800kpp and cashed out richer then when I bought it from Durison.

------

Plus with what Durison told me friggen half of TMO rmts - he freely admitted it was an rmt guild.

Proof,logs,SS,paypal etc No one ever has NAMES or PROOF of these so called RMTers in TMO.

If you sold all your items to TMO show us the Paypal logs and I'll match the names to the characters and have them removed.

[Vraji]

btw did that quido dudw get banned for rmt in this round - always suss on the dude and his fungis

[Tiggles]

btw did that quido dudw get banned for rmt in this round - always suss on the dude and his fungis

nope

[Vraji]

its 2 + years ago brothers, I aint trolling paypal for some receipt to durisons paypal.com account.

p.s. i bought fro, Durison in TMO, never sold to tmo when I quit - a

[Vraji]

considering 400 people got banned?? out of say 1500-2000 activish accounts....some surely are tmo accounts... tmo cant just wet blanket everything with a "proof" request =p

[Vraji]

p.s. is TMO still trying to deny Durison ripped the guilds banks? omg if so.

[justin2090]

Proof,logs,SS,paypal etc No one ever has NAMES or PROOF of these so called RMTers in TMO.

If you sold all your items to TMO show us the Paypal logs and I'll match the names to the characters and have them removed.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e6/d8/e9/e6d8e9d741c2a7ee9e1d070a06f63623.jpg

[Tecmos Deception]

considering 400 people got banned?? out of say 1500-2000 activish accounts....some surely are tmo accounts... tmo cant just wet blanket everything with a "proof" request =p

It was 400 accounts. Blue has more than 2000 different actual people playing on it, many of whom have several accounts. And staff did specifically say that basically every guild had people banned in this wave.

[Vraji]

btw sorry I am not trying to be a dick or anything in my posts -- i know some of you take this sort of thing way serious.

apologies in advance if you do -- soz tmo

[Raavak]

Proof,logs,SS,paypal etc No one ever has NAMES or PROOF of these so called RMTers in TMO.

If you sold all your items to TMO show us the Paypal logs and I'll match the names to the characters and have them removed.TMO has really large cocks. Must be true, its posted in RnF.

[Frieza_Prexus]

p.s. is TMO still trying to deny Durison ripped the guilds banks? omg if so.

Not in the least. Durison ripped off a lot of people in TMO.

[quido]

Not in the least. Durison ripped off a lot of people in TMO.

I actually think it was Nizzarr now.

[Tiggles]

While on the topic of RMT when I did play on P99 I bought about 600,000pp from Durison when he ripped TMOs banks (I found out after the fact). In addition I bought Fefifofum from him too along with a few other items.

I used Fefifofum for awhile to PL an SK to 45 (2boxing the whole time) then sold her for 100k+pp. The SK was decked in some of the best dropables and I got to enjoy a side of eq I never got to when I played live: a fungi for starters - dream of mine.

I then got over P99 because of the jokes that play on the server - I am looking at most of TMO btw - and ended up selling all my items etc to make pp which came to BOUT 800kpp and cashed out richer then when I bought it from Durison.

------

Plus with what Durison told me friggen half of TMO rmts - he freely admitted it was an rmt guild.

btw did that quido dudw get banned for rmt in this round - always suss on the dude and his fungis

So...YOU! a confirmed RMTer sold almost a million platinum in gear to players and out of all those players you sold stuff to none of them where TMO?

Yet TMO is filled with RMTers?

You sound like an idiot bro.

Also, You don't have to "Bother Paypal" i just logged in 15 seconds ago and I can pull up transactions from 5 years ago in an instant.

You are a liar and just looking for attention like Nordenwatch.
Post something of value or get lost.

Someone PLEASE RNF this thread!

[Asap]

Barkingturtle easily the best poster on these boards. Everything he posts is pure fucking gold. 10/10

[Splorf22]

For the love of God, just walk away. Multiple threads dude?

+1.

Also Tiggles, keep me out of this. I know you are just throwing shit around and hoping it sticks like you always do, but RMT accusations are really pretty serious.

[Tycko]

the problem is that too many people treat this game like a second job/life.

QFT

[jaybone]

What's worse hacking\duping or RMT.

[Velerin]

They're both awful. They both are big selfish middle fingers to the people that put in all the hard work to give us this great experience.
If you're gonna do that to Sony, whatever, they're making bundles but doing that to hard working volunteers for an emulated free gaming experience is just plain disrespectful anyway you look at it.

[Destron]

Barkingturtle easily the best poster on these boards. Everything he posts is pure fucking gold. 10/10

Confirmed.

[qombi]

The more and more I think about all these selfish self absorbed people it make me angry. The people that have provided all of us once again with the ability to enjoy Everquest in all it's classic glory do it free of charge.

You would think we are all older now and more mature. The game experience should be even better now this time through. We are a community of like minded gamers wishing for the days of group oriented MMOs and teamwork. Why treat your fellow gamers like this? It's a freaking game. Help each other get items. Why gather more than you need just to have more than everyone else? You have all your character needs, help a fellow player to get theirs. A player having trouble finding a good way to level, guide them.

All this power leveling, RMT, monopolizing camps, a massing great virtual wealth is just selfish. Think of the other players you are stomping on. It is really probably A waste to say since human nature seems to be selfish greedy worms that live for the moment desperately yelling mine! Mine! While being destructive to the world and everyone around them.

[Briscoe]

I laughed at the following quotes for various reasons:

...you're playing on Red now, right? That's a pretty strong indicator that your life is not going well and that you're an idiotic idiot.

You came over, splashed around in the pool and had a good time. Then when you were ready to leave, you pooped in the pool and made all manner of excuses for your loose anus. In this analogy, your anus symbolizes your moral compass.

he would probably get assaulted when one of these guys sees him irl and has a man child fit

btw did that quido dudw

I don't have much to contribute to this thread since I'm having a hard time getting fired up about it like some of you are. I will say that the only reason we should be holding any ill will towards Nordenwatch and the rest of the RMT ilk is because he gets to cash out, but the server staff are not able to cash out despite also sinking a similar amount of time and effort into this server. I see people flaming Nordenwatch for all kinds of stupid shit like how he played the game (e.g. spending lots of time in EC), but the real reason to be mad is how unfair the RMT cashout is to the staff.

[Pint]

I'm still not convinced that rmt is the terrible server killing monster that most of you guys are making it out to be, he is just providing a service of convenience to a bunch of willing participants. Everyone involved knew the risks.

[Briscoe]

Everyone involved knew the risks.

There is at least one post in this thread trying to make Nordenwatch feel guilty for a buyer's account being banned as a result of Nordenwatch taking their money for pixels. I don't get it. The buyer is just as bad as the seller here. They both know they are violating server rules.

[Pint]

There is at least one post in this thread trying to make Nordenwatch feel guilty for a buyer's account being banned as a result of Nordenwatch taking their money for pixels. I don't get it. The buyer is just as bad as the seller here. They both know they are violating server rules.

bingo

[loramin]

I'm still not convinced that rmt is the terrible server killing monster

I'm not saying it's the most likely scenario, but there is a real possibility that SOE could say "people are making money off our IP, and we're not; time to bring in the lawyers". And Rogean himself has basically said as much, so I do think there's a real (though not necessarily *high*) chance that if they stopped combatting RMT the server really could experience death by lawyer.

he is just providing a service of convenience to a bunch of willing participants. Everyone involved knew the risks.

You're missing the fact that we all share the same (virtual) world. When one person does something in the economy, it doesn't just affect them, it affects the person they trade with, other people who would have bought the item (but couldn't because they didn't have RMT plat), people who wouldn't have camped the item but now will because it costs so much, etc.

And it's not like we're talking about just one transaction here: there were over 400 accounts banned, each of which probably bought several things with their RMT plat. In aggregate it absolutely does affect many more people than just the RMT buyer and seller.

[Nordenwatch]

Tiggles what the hell are you talking about? So your contention is that I sold plat to other members of A-Team while in the guild so they could afford your VP rots?

You make a bold claim like this yet when someone accuses TMO of RMTing you go haywire and demand paypal logs... I never sold to any member of the A-Team, BDA and IB represented the vast majority of my clientele.

[Nordenwatch]

Loraen: go fuck yourself, you're the biggest pussy I've ever met on the internet.

[Tiggles]

Tiggles what the hell are you talking about? So your contention is that I sold plat to other members of A-Team while in the guild so they could afford your VP rots?

You make a bold claim like this yet when someone accuses TMO of RMTing you go haywire and demand paypal logs... I never sold to any member of the A-Team, BDA and IB represented the vast majority of my clientele.

Post your complete uneditted paypal logs then, nothing is stopping you we can put this to rest once and for all if you out every single buyer from you. A-Team TMO IB BDA who ever.

[Spitty]

Tiggles, you fucking life-failure of a webcam slave - don't you dare fucking drag names through the mud because they shared a guildtag with this miserable piece of RMTing shit.

You fucking lowlife, hypocritical, complete waste of oxygen. Get the fuck out.

[Nordenwatch]

I did not use paypal for the majority of my transactions. I can provide a lot of RL names but what will that do? RL names aren't connected to acc info.

[Nordenwatch]

also even if I had comprehensive paypal logs.. will paypal logs have the names of the EQ char the plat went to? How would that help?

[Spitty]

And yeah, put this garbage in RnF. It's a how-to on RMTing with a bunch of morons making noise at someone who couldn't care less, and is heading for a dramatic suicide anyway.

I mean, that's the best outcome I can think of when it comes to light that a self-professed law student was engaging in black market activity whilst in school. I wasn't the only one that noticed how fucking amazingly corrupt this is, right? Using unreported capital to invest in a luxury car will lead to an audit, which will lead to the bar laughing his ass out of the conference room and back to scraping pennies from no-life fairygamers.

[kenzar]

ITT: someone cashed out and others are mad jelly.

Tiggles, you fucking life-failure of a webcam slave - don't you dare fucking drag names through the mud because they shared a guildtag with this miserable piece of RMTing shit.

You fucking lowlife, hypocritical, complete waste of oxygen. Get the fuck out.

Leave it to Spit to emotionally over-react in every situation. Are you french or something? Besides this is Tiggles outside of RnF, he can't possibly be trolling...

[lecompte]

Sorry guys, you seem to be having a very nice, wholesome conversation but...

Can someone shift this thread to RnF?

[Nordenwatch]

And yeah, put this garbage in RnF. It's a how-to on RMTing with a bunch of morons making noise at someone who couldn't care less, and is heading for a dramatic suicide anyway.

I mean, that's the best outcome I can think of when it comes to light that a self-professed law student was engaging in black market activity whilst in school. I wasn't the only one that noticed how fucking amazingly corrupt this is, right? Using unreported capital to invest in a luxury car will lead to an audit, which will lead to the bar laughing his ass out of the conference room and back to scraping pennies from no-life fairygamers.

"black market activity" this isn't the fucking underground economy IRL dude its an elf simulator.

CORRUPT? how delusional are you? ITS A FUCKING GAME

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Popcorn.gif

[kenzar]

And yeah, put this garbage in RnF. It's a how-to on RMTing with a bunch of morons making noise at someone who couldn't care less, and is heading for a dramatic suicide anyway.

I mean, that's the best outcome I can think of when it comes to light that a self-professed law student was engaging in black market activity whilst in school. I wasn't the only one that noticed how fucking amazingly corrupt this is, right? Using unreported capital to invest in a luxury car will lead to an audit, which will lead to the bar laughing his ass out of the conference room and back to scraping pennies from no-life fairygamers.

OMG yes, get mad.

[Spitty]

"black market activity" this isn't the fucking underground economy IRL dude its an elf simulator.

CORRUPT? how delusional are you? ITS A FUCKING GAME

You're supposedly entrusted to uphold the integrity of law and YOU CAN'T EVEN FUCKING DO THAT IN A GAME, especially when someone starts waving money at you.

Corrupt through and through.

I wouldn't trust you with a fucking parking ticket dispute.

[lecompte]

Lawyers don't uphold the law so much as massage it and hope money squirts out.

[Lojik]

Wait...I thought he was the young doctor. Now he's a young lawyer?

[kenzar]

You're supposedly entrusted to uphold the integrity of law and YOU CAN'T EVEN FUCKING DO THAT IN A GAME, especially when someone starts waving money at you.

Corrupt through and through.

I wouldn't trust you with a fucking parking ticket dispute.

So you wouldn't want a good defense attorney? Because this is what makes a good defense attorney. Do you even think about what you are typing or do you just get mad and type.

Besides, what you are describing is a fucking judge, not a lawyer.

[Nordenwatch]

PLATNORD

[JayN]

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/1.+I+fail+to+see+what+s+dumb+about+his+one+_ce0a6f cc897cfdf2c10d63fa83b34ed8.jpg

[Lojik]

PLATNORD

Platnord <Nord Bob>

[kenzar]

PLATNORD

I knew Nord was going to be something special when I buffed him as a noob. Don't let these guys get you down Nord. If they are mad about anything its that you beat them to the punch and they will have to be that much more careful to get away with their cash-outs later down the line. Spitty is taking it especially hard it seems, hmm, maybe he was planning his big cash-out. Although its weird, because you have to actually have gear/plat in order to cash-out Spitty.

[Wrench]

much as i love to crap on ateam (mostly because of tecmos), i think theyve represented in here pretty well (other than tecmos)

[Spitty]

So you wouldn't want a good defense attorney? Because this is what makes a good defense attorney. Do you even think about what you are typing or do you just get mad and type.

Besides, what you are describing is a fucking judge, not a lawyer.

A good defense attorney just ignores the oath of admission and rules of professional conduct? What exactly are you trying to convince me of here?

Are you fucking kidding me? I could easily see this fuckup as a judge in some rural jurisdiction that throws cases depending on how money-greasy his wheels get.

[Nordenwatch]

A good defense attorney just ignores the oath of admission and rules of professional conduct? What exactly are you trying to convince me of here?

Are you fucking kidding me? I could easily see this fuckup as a judge in some rural jurisdiction that throws cases depending on how money-greasy his wheels get.

a good defense attorney gets the job done. No questions asked.

[kenzar]

A good defense attorney just ignores the oath of admission and rules of professional conduct? What exactly are you trying to convince me of here?


What country are you from? Of course! A good defense attorney does what it takes! Are you dumb? Everything you described here in a "bad light" are things that separate a shitty public defender from a defense attorney. I don't know Nord as well as you, but if you think he is these things you've called him then Nord is going to have no problem practicing law.

Honestly, if someone actually thinks that defense attorneys are supposed to be clean-whistled, by-the-book attorneys, I can't imagine how skewed the rest of their world perception must be; That's something a child would think.

[Ainwein]

You're supposedly entrusted to uphold the integrity of law and YOU CAN'T EVEN FUCKING DO THAT IN A GAME, especially when someone starts waving money at you.

Corrupt through and through.

I wouldn't trust you with a fucking parking ticket dispute.

You're an idiot.

I saw someone throw around a figure of 20k. Let's assume that's true. With that amount of cash I figure this guy can take 4-5 trips anywhere he wants in the world. You're seriously saying he should forgo this, so on his deathbed he can say "Man, I'm so glad I was respectful of all the white knights on p1999 5 decades ago!"

Think how ridiculous this would sound to anyone who isn't thousands of posts deep into the echo chamber that is the p1999 forums. Give him shit all you want, but he's the only person in this thread who I'd actually consider hiring because he's at least capable of acting rationally. This bullshit altruism (read: jealousy) is hilarious. Seriously, go print this whole thing out and go ask people if they'd give up 20k to not piss off some internet nerds they've never met.

But please, continue making assumptions about his role in the real world based on how he played this stupid game.

[Spitty]

I apparently didn't know Nord as well as I thought either if he was conspiring to use his guild to buy a fucking Lexus.

If the basic principle here, that he was accepting money in a situation where it's explicitly forbidden to accept money, is not only acceptable in his career but praised...well, that's fucking sad.

[Nordenwatch]

I apparently didn't know Nord as well as I thought either if he was conspiring to use his guild to buy a fucking Lexus.

If the basic principle here, that he was accepting money in a situation where it's explicitly forbidden to accept money, is not only acceptable in his career but praised...well, that's fucking sad.

As previously stated, I was never intending on RMTing until the final hour. All the plat earned during the times we farmed stuff was not done for the intention of RMT, so get off my sack

[Spitty]

I don't believe you.

[Lune]

You're an idiot.

I saw someone throw around a figure of 20k. Let's assume that's true. With that amount of cash I figure this guy can take 4-5 trips anywhere he wants in the world. You're seriously saying he should forgo this, so on his deathbed he can say "Man, I'm so glad I was respectful of all the white knights on p1999 5 decades ago!"

Think how ridiculous this would sound to anyone who isn't thousands of posts deep into the echo chamber that is the p1999 forums. Give him shit all you want, but he's the only person in this thread who I'd actually consider hiring because he's at least capable of acting rationally. This bullshit altruism (read: jealousy) is hilarious. Seriously, go print this whole thing out and go ask people if they'd give up 20k to not piss off some internet nerds they've never met.

But please, continue making assumptions about his role in the real world based on how he played this stupid game.

This is what poor integrity looks like. Go read atlas shrugged and beat off to your high status job in middle management, scumbag.

:O)

[kenzar]

I apparently didn't know Nord as well as I thought either if he was conspiring to use his guild to buy a fucking Lexus.

If the basic principle here, that he was accepting money in a situation where it's explicitly forbidden to accept money, is not only acceptable in his career but praised...well, that's fucking sad.

Again, only a child would think differently.

[casdegere]

He forgot the part where he and others were 2boxing which made it easy for him to pocket 100% of said profits.

[Nordenwatch]

Spit I'm not a stupid person. The hourly rate in plat making / RMT is ABYSMAL. Its trash, I could easily make more money working. As soon as I decided to RMT, I stopped farming stuff, because it instantly became 100% not worth it at all.

[kenzar]

You're an idiot.

I saw someone throw around a figure of 20k. Let's assume that's true. With that amount of cash I figure this guy can take 4-5 trips anywhere he wants in the world. You're seriously saying he should forgo this, so on his deathbed he can say "Man, I'm so glad I was respectful of all the white knights on p1999 5 decades ago!"

Think how ridiculous this would sound to anyone who isn't thousands of posts deep into the echo chamber that is the p1999 forums. Give him shit all you want, but he's the only person in this thread who I'd actually consider hiring because he's at least capable of acting rationally. This bullshit altruism (read: jealousy) is hilarious. Seriously, go print this whole thing out and go ask people if they'd give up 20k to not piss off some internet nerds they've never met.

But please, continue making assumptions about his role in the real world based on how he played this stupid game.

Finally. Someone with a brain.

[Nordenwatch]

He forgot the part where he and others were 2boxing which made it easy for him to pocket 100% of said profits.

stupidest way to get banned in this game is by 2 boxing. A small shortcut and you lose everything.