FE/IB Kills 3 CT's in a row watch TMO's snipe attempt

[kotton05]

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354255

here is us about to engage CT with TMO getting FTE after our first FTE'rs get death touched, where was TMO's raid to engage? (notice all the spells getting interrupted, was a clear TMO fte group to try to mess our engage up while their lazy slackers got ready) I personally counted about 12 or so running in with us. Imba puts 1 mallet charge into CT , gets gfluxed then runs to northwall while we camp out, TMO cried n cried that this is a raid interference, this all happens within seconds. We managed to camp most out, had time to port more in and even get Imba back up.... now fast forward a few minutes to the next video which is even more suspicious....

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354405

now this video is after TMO sniped our fte and we camp, notice how to the right draco is being pulled to TMO camp. As we run up, artamis puts a full mallet into ct yet he runs away from towards north of firewall, can anyone explain this?.... The video ends abruptly with Artamis dieing but we got FTE solid this time and killed CT.

If TMO killed CT, post your proof. Wait you don't have it. teehee

Loot or not we have now secured CT as a FE/IB mob and TMO is killing draco only :cool:

Don't listen to the TMO propaganda, they can't handle seeing 3 ct's down in a row and have to lie about it and rule lawyer.

I expect massive spin shortly after this post :eek:

[radditsu]

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354255

here is us about to engage CT with TMO getting FTE after our first FTE'rs get death touched, where was TMO's raid to engage? (notice all the spells getting interrupted, was a clear TMO fte group to try to mess our engage up while their lazy slackers got ready) I personally counted about 12 or so running in with us. Imba puts 1 mallet charge into CT , gets gfluxed then runs to northwall while we camp out, TMO cried n cried that this is a raid interference, this all happens within seconds. We managed to camp most out, had time to port more in and even get Imba back up.... now fast forward a few minutes to the next video which is even more suspicious....

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354405

now this video is after TMO sniped our fte and we camp, notice how to the right draco is being pulled to TMO camp. As we run up, artamis puts a full mallet into ct yet he runs away from towards north of firewall, can anyone explain this?.... The video ends abruptly with Artamis dieing but we got FTE solid this time and killed CT.

If TMO killed CT, post your proof. Wait you don't have it. teehee

Loot or not we have now secured CT as a FE/IB mob and TMO is killing draco only :cool:

Don't listen to the TMO propaganda, they can't handle seeing 3 ct's down in a row and have to lie about it and rule lawyer.

I expect massive spin shortly after this post :eek:

Praise him

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[kotton05]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4yivb5YMp1ruhgggo1_500.gif

[Prismaticshop]

So now, you can get FTE, kill a mob and still get your loot taken away ?

http://replygif.net/i/131.gif

[Hitpoint]

So now, you can get FTE, kill a mob and still get your loot taken away ?

http://replygif.net/i/131.gif

That is correct. As long as you have TMO lawyers working for you.

[Hitpoint]

Against you* ^

[MaksimMazor]

Congrats on 0 Traks in a row

[quido]

Notice you don't have any loot from it...

It's like it never happened!

Hey at least you tried Silverwing today. Good for you =)

[Heebo]

http://i.imgur.com/D1sNIIZ.png

I'd be mad too.

[Heebo]

Taken, BDA, Forceful Entry, and Inglourious Basterds tied for #2 Guild with 1 mob a piece this week.

[Yapas]

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354255

here is us about to engage CT with TMO getting FTE after our first FTE'rs get death touched, where was TMO's raid to engage? (notice all the spells getting interrupted, was a clear TMO fte group to try to mess our engage up while their lazy slackers got ready) I personally counted about 12 or so running in with us. Imba puts 1 mallet charge into CT , gets gfluxed then runs to northwall while we camp out, TMO cried n cried that this is a raid interference, this all happens within seconds. We managed to camp most out, had time to port more in and even get Imba back up.... now fast forward a few minutes to the next video which is even more suspicious....

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354405

now this video is after TMO sniped our fte and we camp, notice how to the right draco is being pulled to TMO camp. As we run up, artamis puts a full mallet into ct yet he runs away from towards north of firewall, can anyone explain this?.... The video ends abruptly with Artamis dieing but we got FTE solid this time and killed CT.

If TMO killed CT, post your proof. Wait you don't have it. teehee

Loot or not we have now secured CT as a FE/IB mob and TMO is killing draco only :cool:

Don't listen to the TMO propaganda, they can't handle seeing 3 ct's down in a row and have to lie about it and rule lawyer.

I expect massive spin shortly after this post :eek:

LoL instead of you (raging & QQ as usual) we don't need to show proof here cause we gave all proof to GMs. no need to spin so & thanks also for this streaming showing perfectly how Shinko used clicky while we have FTE to fuck up our engage !

[quido]

p.s. Merkk why are you avoiding me for honor duel practice? I was around all day yesterday on and off waiting for you to come around like we agreed and you never showed.

[Yapas]

http://i.imgur.com/D1sNIIZ.png

I'd be mad too.

Yeah def :)

[kotton05]

p.s. Merkk why are you avoiding me for honor duel practice? I was around all day yesterday on and off waiting for you to come around like we agreed and you never showed.

wasn't avoiding will def happen you can fraps it and post results here soon, hung Christmas shit and played cs yesterday when I got your msg from ploktor

[kotton05]

and you guise we didn't mention our 5 traks in a row, don't act like you didn't kill one for amonth just recently lol

[Detoxx]

Looks like 3 charges, and it appears CT is running after you're other warrior, Bashyr, in video two.

[kotton05]

perhaps, shouldn't 3 charges suffice? but bashyr was at scratch post with us... not at northwall.

[Detoxx]

So why as soon as CT stops running does it spam that all his pets try to hit Bashyr but miss? Hmmm

[kotton05]

he put a mallet into him too after art died, but why would he run away from us on the get go?

[Yapas]

and you guise we didn't mention our 5 traks in a row, don't act like you didn't kill one for amonth just recently lol

You should stop clinging to the past really ! We missed you in VP this morning :'( lol

[JayN]

troll guild is troll guild; im failing to see why no raid suspensions are being handed out to FE/IB. Week after week they attempt to KS every-other raiding guild on the server with raid interference.

Yet all they do is get the loot taken away minus the Epic stuff they turn in immediately; must be nice to have pocket gms handing out new weekly titles to shinko alts, QQ moar you whiney cheating shit bags.

BE A MAN GIMPATRON

[quido]

wasn't avoiding will def happen you can fraps it and post results here soon, hung Christmas shit and played cs yesterday when I got your msg from ploktor

I don't really like frapsing. I know I'm going to spank you, Merkk, so I'll save the possible fraps for when we're actually fighting over a mob. It's kind of dumb to shit-talk someone playing on a ratty laptop.

[kotton05]

I don't really like frapsing. I know I'm going to spank you, Merkk, so I'll save the possible fraps for when we're actually fighting over a mob. It's kind of dumb to shit-talk someone playing on a ratty laptop.

couldn't you switch from fraps to twitch maybe? or still same lag.?

[quido]

It's the same effect though not quite as intense, but my connection is abused and doesn't really support it.

[khanable]

CT is a shit encounter if you're against TMO

They'll either start the DT cycle or drop a train on you

Unless you go to these levels .. it's a shit encounter.

[khanable]

Meh, I meant kite -- drop a kite on you. I haven't seen any intentional training by TMO in fear. Sorry to give the wrong idea.

[Detoxx]

CT is a shit encounter if you're against TMO

They'll either start the DT cycle or drop a train on you

Unless you go to these levels .. it's a shit encounter.

Whens the last time BDA was in fear contesting CT?

[Yapas]

Whens the last time BDA was in fear contesting CT?

I can remember last time I saw BDA engaging CT, they was 15 or 20 and ran directly to CT and die 30 sec laters. Was couple months ago now.

[Yapas]

* they wiped*

[Lammy]

At his point, FE/IB are so desperate for targets to fulfill broken promises that they are doing these rush/botch job engages and are are causing more headache for everyone, specifically the P99 server staff. I hope they quit embarrassing themselves.

[khanable]

The last time was when Tiggles made the thread on it :)

You can see him instructing you folks to drop the kite

[Yapas]

Merkk needs to go outside his room and take a big breath of fresh oxygen. I'm really worried about his mental health.. Being Perma mad is not good dude :(

[Mezzmur]

The last time was when Tiggles made the thread on it :)

You can see him instructing you folks to drop the kite

AFAIK, the DT cycle is still broken, which is a shame. I wish it were fixed.

Seems logical to not kite all the mobs for another guild's encounter. Lately it's been pretty common to try to snipe CT when the other guild has the kite; additionally I've heard of other bards soulfiring another bard to steal the kite and then drop it back on them when they zone out.

[Alarti0001]

CT is a shit encounter if you're against TMO

They'll either start the DT cycle or drop a train on you

Unless you go to these levels .. it's a shit encounter.

DT cycle is broken, has been for months. Get with the times.

[Alarti0001]

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354255

here is us about to engage CT with TMO getting FTE after our first FTE'rs get death touched, where was TMO's raid to engage? (notice all the spells getting interrupted, was a clear TMO fte group to try to mess our engage up while their lazy slackers got ready) I personally counted about 12 or so running in with us. Imba puts 1 mallet charge into CT , gets gfluxed then runs to northwall while we camp out, TMO cried n cried that this is a raid interference, this all happens within seconds. We managed to camp most out, had time to port more in and even get Imba back up.... now fast forward a few minutes to the next video which is even more suspicious....

http://www.twitch.tv/hitpointsc/c/3354405

now this video is after TMO sniped our fte and we camp, notice how to the right draco is being pulled to TMO camp. As we run up, artamis puts a full mallet into ct yet he runs away from towards north of firewall, can anyone explain this?.... The video ends abruptly with Artamis dieing but we got FTE solid this time and killed CT.

If TMO killed CT, post your proof. Wait you don't have it. teehee

Loot or not we have now secured CT as a FE/IB mob and TMO is killing draco only :cool:

Don't listen to the TMO propaganda, they can't handle seeing 3 ct's down in a row and have to lie about it and rule lawyer.

I expect massive spin shortly after this post :eek:

You guys had 12 seconds from your first DT to our FTE. Explain to me how its TMO's fault that it took you 12 seconds to re-engage CT.
Fucking idiot.

[Funkutron5000]

Explain why your guild couldn't take Aggro off of Imba? Fucking idiot.

[Yapas]

Explain why your guild couldn't take Aggro off of Imba? Fucking idiot.

Because he used clicky aggro to steal aggro. why people so dumb to not understand basic thing

[Alarti0001]

Explain why your guild couldn't take Aggro off of Imba? Fucking idiot.

Easy... Low HP aggro. Know how that works?

[hatelore]

This is why p99 is a shit server lol. Same drama, over and over again.

I think if I was tmo I would get sick of winning all the time, dirt bag tactics or not, it would eventually get old. I guess real life is just that boring for you guys.

[Alarti0001]

It seems FE/IB Needs another fte/aggro mechanics workshop. I'll be hosting a workshop next Sunday at 3pm PST.
Please sign up in this thread.

[Hitpoint]

It was your FTE. Why didn't you fucking engage the mob? Because all you were doing was trying to force us to camp or wipe. You can't pull agro off Imba when he has 1 mallet charge in? You pulled CT halfway across the zone when we engaged, and we killed it anyway. If you wanted to engage CT when you had FTE, you could have.

[Hitpoint]

Because he used clicky aggro to steal aggro. why people so dumb to not understand basic thing

He used one fucking charge. He still had 4 for the next engage. Anyone could have pulled CT off him.

[Funkutron5000]

Easy... Low HP aggro. Know how that works?

He had low HP? Prove it.

[Yapas]

He used one fucking charge. He still had 4 for the next engage. Anyone could have pulled CT off him.

He used charge after Domjot(TMO warrior btw cause you seems to have brain issue with yellow fte message) got FTE and bring CT and some trash. It is clearly raid interference to fuck up our engage.

[Derubael]

You pulled CT halfway across the zone when we engaged, and we killed it anyway.

Just to clarify, that was a member of your raid, not a member of TMO.

If you pull aggro on a mob another guild has an FTE shout on, its raid interference if you don't drop that aggro immediately.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled flaming.

[Hitpoint]

He used charge after Domjot(TMO warrior btw cause you seems to have brain issue with yellow fte message) got FTE and bring CT and some trash. It is clearly raid interference to fuck up our engage.

Yea you were clearly trying to engage there. Where was your next tank after Domjot took the DT? Where was your raid? I know this is how you spun it to Sirken. I guess CT is just going to be a game of who can snipe FTE while the other guild is running in and already committed to engage.

[Funkutron5000]

Just to clarify, that was a member of your raid, not a member of TMO.

If you pull aggro on a mob another guild has an FTE shout on, its raid interference if you don't drop that aggro immediately.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled flaming.

Legitimate question: so if you snag aggro when they FTE snipe you and you can't FD you just have to suicide?

[Yapas]

LOL you can now leave this thread hitpoint !

[Yapas]

If you pull aggro on a mob another guild has an FTE shout on, its raid interference if you don't drop that aggro immediately.

QFT

[Funkutron5000]

Just to clarify, that was a member of your raid, not a member of TMO.

If you pull aggro on a mob another guild has an FTE shout on, its raid interference if you don't drop that aggro immediately.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled flaming.

Also, if another guild grabs FTE with no obvious attempt to engage on their FTE message while another guild is running in to engage, is that raid interference as well?

[Hitpoint]

I assume there are logs which show someone in our raid pulling CT away? Or where is the video? This is the first I'm hearing of this.

[Yapas]

Also, if another guild grabs FTE with no obvious attempt to engage on their FTE message while another guild is running in to engage, is that raid interference as well?

...
You guys had 12 seconds from your first DT to our FTE. Explain to me how its TMO's fault that it took you 12 seconds to re-engage CT.
Fucking idiot.

No need to thanks me really :)

[Lammy]

Also, if another guild grabs FTE with no obvious attempt to engage on their FTE message while another guild is running in to engage, is that raid interference as well?

I keep seeing this same statement made time and time again, and it's ignorant. If TMO gets FTE, and you honestly don't think that TMO is ready to engage, why don't you just let TMO wipe, and then do a proper engage?

[Hitpoint]

...


No need to thanks me really :)

Reading comprehension? The two quotes are not related at all.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Also, if another guild grabs FTE with no obvious attempt to engage on their FTE message while another guild is running in to engage, is that raid interference as well?

Fastest jav in the west precedent indicates that is not the case.

[Derubael]

I assume there are logs which show someone in our raid pulling CT away? Or where is the video? This is the first I'm hearing of this.

Encounter log + fraps you guys provided.

100% for sure was not a member of TMO.

In response to funk's question, yes, if you pull aggro on a mob someone else's guild has engaged, you must do everything you can to drop that aggro immediately. This means die/zone (if you are right next to a zone line), gate/pot/cap out or FD.

If someone engages a mob they aren't ready for, they will wipe. If they stall the mob so they don't wipe, fraps and petition.

[Yapas]

Following streaming it was confusion on FE/IB Vent. Shinko probably mad cause we got FTE and stole CT.

Once again Corova you failed.

http://dailygarlic.com/userImages/quothey-girls-check-this-outquot.gif

[Prismaticshop]

Encounter log + fraps you guys provided.

100% for sure was not a member of TMO.

In response to funk's question, yes, if you pull aggro on a mob someone else's guild has engaged, you must do everything you can to drop that aggro immediately. This means die/zone (if you are right next to a zone line), gate/pot/cap out or FD.

If someone engages a mob they aren't ready for, they will wipe. If they stall the mob so they don't wipe, fraps and petition.

Since Imba from FE/IB got the first FTE, then TMO, FE/IB disengaged, why didn't TMO engage, because CT got trained away ?

On the second engage, FE/IB has FTE, CT is trained away as well yet they engaged it nonetheless and killed it.

Same thing happened for both guilds, the GMs call is retarded.

Not that I'm really blaming you guys, it really is a shit show to manage so I guess at some point you guys need to put someone in the penalty box. But FE/IB did kill CT on their FTE, with their raid force.

[Yapas]

Since Imba from FE/IB got the first FTE, then TMO, FE/IB disengaged, why didn't TMO engage, because CT got trained away ?

On the second engage, FE/IB has FTE, CT is trained away as well yet they engaged it nonetheless and killed it.

Same thing happened for both guilds, the GMs call is retarded.

Not that I'm really blaming you guys, it really is a shit show to manage so I guess at some point you guys need to put someone in the penalty box. But FE/IB did kill CT on their FTE, with their raid force.

You was at fear ? guess not. Shinko didn't have the fte

[Prismaticshop]

You was at fear ? guess not. Shinko didn't have the fte

The first video clearly shows Imba gets FTE, then someone in TMO does, hence the disengage. that's facts.

[Visual]

Encounter log + fraps you guys provided.


That is my favorite part. The most damning evidence is something they posted in their defense.

http://www.ohnitsch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/080721_dodo.png

[Derubael]

Since Imba from FE/IB got the first FTE, then TMO, FE/IB disengaged, why didn't TMO engage, because CT got trained away ?

On the second engage, FE/IB has FTE, CT is trained away as well yet they engaged it nonetheless and killed it.


Your logic is flawed. FE/IB trained their own engage away from their force during the second engage.

In the first engage, FE/IB trained TMO's engage away from their force.

Do you see the difference?

I'm stepping out of this thread, was just here to clarify the facts. Please don't call our decisions bad when you obviously don't understand them in the first place.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Since Imba from FE/IB got the first FTE, then TMO, FE/IB disengaged, why didn't TMO engage, because CT got trained away ?

On the second engage, FE/IB has FTE, CT is trained away as well yet they engaged it nonetheless and killed it.

Same thing happened for both guilds, the GMs call is retarded.

Not that I'm really blaming you guys, it really is a shit show to manage so I guess at some point you guys need to put someone in the penalty box. But FE/IB did kill CT on their FTE, with their raid force.

I'm just confused that the GMs actively prefer this situation over literally any other set of raid rules. Like some teenage girls feeling off drama :P

[Alarti0001]

He used one fucking charge. He still had 4 for the next engage. Anyone could have pulled CT off him.

Low hp aggro says otherwise. Also we burnt charges and i spammed the shit out of CT with my temp staff. Nothing breaks low hp aggro. Sign up for my workshop

[kotton05]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4yivb5YMp1ruhgggo1_500.gif

[Hitpoint]

Low hp aggro says otherwise. Also we burnt charges and i spammed the shit out of CT with my temp staff. Nothing breaks low hp aggro. Sign up for my workshop

I know all about how agro works. Post the fraps showing Imba's low hp pls?

[Alarti0001]

Since Imba from FE/IB got the first FTE, then TMO, FE/IB disengaged, why didn't TMO engage, because CT got trained away ?

On the second engage, FE/IB has FTE, CT is trained away as well yet they engaged it nonetheless and killed it.

Same thing happened for both guilds, the GMs call is retarded.

Not that I'm really blaming you guys, it really is a shit show to manage so I guess at some point you guys need to put someone in the penalty box. But FE/IB did kill CT on their FTE, with their raid force.

Its hard to engage a mob that is chasing someone who is Low HP kiting.
Simple facts FE's actions prevented TMO's ability to kill CT on our engage. If anyone doubts TMO can kill CT with 43 people.... join <Tinfoil Hat>

[Alarti0001]

I know all about how agro works. Post the fraps showing Imba's low hp pls?

Only explanation we do have fraps and logs showing us spamming ct with aggro.
Simple fact. Shinko kited CT.

[Yapas]

Yeah Merkk you made another thread for nothing except showing that FE/IB still not have learnt from their past mistakes

[Alarti0001]

SPINNING

Your logic is flawed. FE/IB trained their own engage away from their force during the second engage.

In the first engage, FE/IB trained TMO's engage away from their force.

Do you see the difference?

I'm stepping out of this thread, was just here to clarify the facts. Please don't call our decisions bad when you obviously don't understand them in the first place.


Merkk getting owned by Deru :)
Keep spinning merkk.

[Lammy]

I like Merkk, he's a nice guy outside of raid scene. But this is beyond delusional .

[mishurza]

As an enchanter my job at a Ct raid is to stand under CT and chain stun him and the mobs that come to reinforce him. It is imperative that someone else besides me at the raid takes the first DT. So I stay a little behind the initial FTE people.

Mr. Derubael,

How many seconds after Domjot gets FTE is my first attempt at casting a spell?

For the record I'm just trying to dispel the rumors that are circulating that this was an FTE snipe, not a legitimate attempt at CT that was derailed by a competing guild.

[kotton05]

i posted our engage, didn't say anything but you sniped fte without a raid force right on ct unlike ours, how is it that hard to understand.

[kotton05]

we kill ct, you cry, whats new?

[Yapas]

We got raid force at NE corner.. Damn Merkk it is too hard for you to accept the truth ?

You look like a guy washbrained by North Korea Propaganda . Kim Jong un = Sloan ? lol

[kotton05]

oh but they didn't all run at ct when we did just a small group did while rest of the raid sat at ne corner, thanks for the info

[mishurza]

Well I don't know about your raid force but the crew that was with me at NE corner was perfectly capable of killing CT. Why does one of your raid leaders say in vent that your MT should run away from our engage with our mob?

[kotton05]

since when don't you engage ct with whole raid force?

[Yapas]

We was moving to CT before Shinko stole our FTE and bring some mobs and fuck our engage.

Do you really think we will sacrifiate 1 Warrior for FTE if we was not ready to engage ?

You are wrong once again & you don't have any shame to lie even proof against you ( aerioch syndrom ??)
Kiss to your "Dear Leader"

[kotton05]

still killed it and TMO cried, win win

[Yapas]

Even with Derubael's feedback , Merkk still mad and persist in his quest of QQ rampage

[mishurza]

My raid force was engaging. Are you going to dodge answering my question Merkk? Why did one of your raid leaders instruct Imba to run CT away from our engage?

Last time I tried to have a conversation with you I started by complementing your PD kill the week before, since it was very well executed. You responded by insulting me and ninja logging. As far back as we go I thought I deserved a little more than that.

[Hitpoint]

Merkk they send in a warrior and vital enchanters to suicide into CT while the rest of their raid waits in the NE corner. Clearly this enchanter who is trying to stun CT, is actually a puller.

As an enchanter my job at a Ct raid is to stand under CT and chain stun him and the mobs that come to reinforce him. It is imperative that someone else besides me at the raid takes the first DT. So I stay a little behind the initial FTE people.

Mr. Derubael,

How many seconds after Domjot gets FTE is my first attempt at casting a spell?

For the record I'm just trying to dispel the rumors that are circulating that this was an FTE snipe, not a legitimate attempt at CT that was derailed by a competing guild.

[kotton05]

still killed it and TMO cried, win win
This ^

[Yapas]

Merkk they send in a warrior and vital enchanters to suicide into CT while the rest of their raid waits in the NE corner. Clearly this enchanter who is trying to stun CT, is actually a puller.

No more interest for me to answer to FE/IB's QQ. They cannot accept the truth and deal with it.

[Hitpoint]

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[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:53 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

This is the second engage. Which FE had cleanly, there is no argument over whether TMO had a sufficient force for it. The first engage is in question.

[kotton05]

You just admitted you sent a small group to ct while you was in NE corner lol. I knew you'd guys slip up

[MaksimMazor]

Sweet sweet FE tears

[kotton05]

Fe/IB are not the shady ones here and we still killed him while you watched after camping in getting fte sniped and camping out and back in.

[Yapas]

You just admitted you sent a small group to ct while you was in NE corner lol. I knew you'd guys slip up

You are definitely more dumb than I thought dude.. Trying to alter my word, how pathetic you are.. and for which goal ? just have the last word AHAH

[Lammy]

You are definitely more dumb than I thought dude.. Trying to alter my word, how pathetic you are.. and for which goal ? just have the last word AHAH

Merkk's head is under water, drowning in tears, panicing, and reaching for air... so easy on him

[Tanthallas]

Well I don't know about your raid force but the crew that was with me at NE corner was perfectly capable of killing CT. Why does one of your raid leaders say in vent that your MT should run away from our engage with our mob?

1. We had three FTEs before your snipe wherein you obtained the fourth and final FTE; if you are really that fucking retarded to think that at this point it was possible to camp people out without wiping an entire force, I feel very bad for you. The ability to snipe FTE, especially in the context of one guild getting the first three FTE messages while another gets the fourth and last - should not allow one guild to force the other to wipe. IF you are not prepared to engage and hold aggro, do not go in and try to snipe FTE - it would be one thing if Imba sank in insane amount of aggro generating clickies, but as evidenced in the FRAPs he did not. TMO was CLEARLY not prepared at all to actually engage CT at the instance where they snipped FTE, which is evident by even their own members admitting that their raid was at the North-East corner while all of FE / IB forces where directly ontop of CT. Actually, their whole raid wasnt even at NE corner - half of them were RUNNING to NE corner from the zone in. This used to be punishable by suspension and other action if it continued; when the fuck did this become a legitimate raid maneuver - it is douchbaggery at its finest.

2. FTE sniping, per the staff, is now completely legal and not frowned upon in any effective way. To say that this isnt a recent change due to the implementation of yellow text is pure blinders / ignorance. When FE first started competing with TMO, Sirken himself refused me loot many times on many instances where FE had FTE simply because 'FE did not have a sufficient force engage'. This was regardless of what TMO did during our FTE and in what way TMO caused any harm upon our ability to engage on our FTE.

3. FTE messages WERE NOT put in to make FTE sniping the standard for raiding - they were put in to minimize confusion as to who had FTE so that people who SNIPED were not rewarded. FTE sniping was punished in the past quite frequently, and for a long time considered as a form of raid interference. Instead of FTE shouts being a way in which their initial purpose could be fulfilled, this wonderful yellow text has become an easy way for the staff to avoid the context of any situation and merely point at what the yellow text says for the solution to everything. This ALLOWS FTE sniping to run rampant - any guild which chooses to not behave accordingly - i.e., not FTE snipe / react to FTE snipes in some idealized fashion - gets fucked, as is evident by the recent rulings. The mechanism put in to allow guilds who are attempting to get clean engages and to hurt douchbag sniping behavior is now used to defend sniping - how ironic.

4. Sorry dad.

[Lammy]

Merkk's head is under water, drowning in tears, panicing, and reaching for air... go easy on him

[Tanthallas]

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Malcolm <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Jasminda <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bialar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alarti <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Detoxx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Purpl <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Soapx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dosxx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saden <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ezathule <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Carrina <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:53 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

Guy posts logs from the second engage which isnt even in question. Dont let this guy lawyer for you Alarti.

[Yapas]

WTS Merkk's Tears 1PP (common drop) // WTS Sloan's Tears 5 pp ( Uncommon but easy to get after getting Merkk's Tears).
OBO !

[Zeelot]

This is the second engage. Which FE had cleanly, there is no argument over whether TMO had a sufficient force for it. The first engage is in question.

You guys are trying hard on deflecting this one eh.

[Fri Dec 06 22:01:48 2013] Bashyr says, 'war lfg'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bashyr <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bowdown <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkanoff <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fortiss <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arttamis <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Imba (Skeleton) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Mithra <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Krashed (Ogre) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Oily <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Marksman <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Versaager <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fundo <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roublard <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] There are 13 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aerioch <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Amothiel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [52 Rake] Rodent (Gnome) <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Danjerr <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bier <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Getsome <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Drippin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Destroyed <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Analia <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kragnus <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Varzii <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Nukin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Wavaran <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] There are 14 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:54 2013] Butchh steps into the shadows and disappears.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule engages Wavaran!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule says 'WAVARAN'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:58 2013] Abraham tells the guild, 'zone in?'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Domjot's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule engages Domjot!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] You hit Cazic Thule for 6 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:12 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:13 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:14 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'DOMJOT'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:16 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Joystick begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:18 2013] Joystick's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:19 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:21 2013] Butchh's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:23 2013] a phantasm's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:24 2013] Oily begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Malcolm <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Jasminda <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bialar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alarti <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Detoxx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Purpl <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Soapx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dosxx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saden <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ezathule <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Carrina <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:28 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:29 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:30 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:35 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] a tentacle tormentor begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] a turmoil toad begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a turmoil toad's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Dosxx says out of character, 'nice kite'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 24 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 26 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:42 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 165 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Ezathule kicks Cazic Thule for 1 point of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Fountree tells the guild, 'kiting = raid interference'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

[Yapas]

Do you hear the silent behind the wind ? lol

[Autotune]

It's in your best interest to pull raid targets instead of rushing them when you know the competition is around.

Oh why is this true mr stealin dragons?

Well, little stupid fucknugget, when you have your entire raid force rush across a zone and the competition has spies running around, it's in their best interest to fuck your entire engage and make you back off/camp out. If they snag fte, you have back off and deal with any aggro you managed to take from them, this means your entire engage is now fucked and the competition only has to wait until you're all dead/camped to die as well and blame it on the fucked aggro.

Basically, charging guild stands to lose multiple people and spy guild stands to lose 1 (maybe up to 3).

If you had just sent out 2-3 people to pull CT just a little towards your camp and then have your force charge the rest after FTE confirmation, you'd not of had that happen. The NPC charging factor is more acceptable than the bullshit troll snipes.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Just sounds like a rules clarification is needed. Raid rules are patched together as it is, and GMs seem to have the final say regardless of the rules. P99 is basically mega city 1.

[Tiggles]

Sweet sweet FE tears

[Tanthallas]

You guys are trying hard on deflecting this one eh.

[Fri Dec 06 22:01:48 2013] Bashyr says, 'war lfg'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bashyr <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bowdown <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkanoff <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fortiss <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arttamis <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Imba (Skeleton) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Mithra <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Krashed (Ogre) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Oily <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Marksman <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Versaager <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fundo <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roublard <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] There are 13 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aerioch <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Amothiel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [52 Rake] Rodent (Gnome) <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Danjerr <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bier <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Getsome <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Drippin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Destroyed <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Analia <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kragnus <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Varzii <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Nukin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Wavaran <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] There are 14 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:54 2013] Butchh steps into the shadows and disappears.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule engages Wavaran!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule says 'WAVARAN'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:58 2013] Abraham tells the guild, 'zone in?'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Domjot's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule engages Domjot!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] You hit Cazic Thule for 6 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:12 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:13 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:14 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'DOMJOT'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:16 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Joystick begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:18 2013] Joystick's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:19 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:21 2013] Butchh's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:23 2013] a phantasm's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:24 2013] Oily begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Malcolm <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Jasminda <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bialar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alarti <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Detoxx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Purpl <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Soapx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dosxx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saden <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ezathule <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Carrina <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:28 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:29 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:30 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:35 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] a tentacle tormentor begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] a turmoil toad begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a turmoil toad's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Dosxx says out of character, 'nice kite'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 24 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 26 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:42 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 165 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Ezathule kicks Cazic Thule for 1 point of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Fountree tells the guild, 'kiting = raid interference'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

Its nice to see you arent doctoring your logs anymore, though.

Tell your guild they did a wonderful job ZONING IN in order for you to do a /who 20 seconds later.

[mishurza]

I'm pretty sure I have more credibility than any of you trolls do.

I adopted TMO as my guild 10 months ago and in my time here the only time I've ever heard someone shout in vent that we should blatantly raid interfere with another guild it was Quickfingers, and guess what? they told him to clear vent.

Since you guys go out of your way to malign my guild to everyone you can I will do the same.


Dear Server,

From this point forth I will no longer be offering my customary courtesies to you if you are flying an FE or IB tag. I will not offer support in any way no matter how dire. Furthermore if you openly express sympathy or support for them I will also deny my buffs and assistance to you.

I encourage those of you who can see the malignancy that is Shinko for what he is, to abandon him and his tactics and compete legitimately. You do very well when you do.

To those outside this situation looking in, don't believe the propaganda. TMO is filled with good people who like to work hard and slay dragons. If you want to do the same, and have 10-12 hours a week to play, you can be a part of the crew as well. Even if you don't know any TMO members when you apply. Before I applied my only experience was competing against them. I certainly won't say that we have never caused a train in hate at an inny raid, but we work hard to abide by the server rules.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

It's in your best interest to pull raid targets instead of rushing them when you know the competition is around.



Well, little stupid fucknugget, when you have your entire raid force rush across a zone and the competition has spies running around, it's in their best interest to fuck your entire engage and make you back off/camp out. If they snag fte, you have back off and deal with any aggro you managed to take from them, this means your entire engage is now fucked and the competition only has to wait until you're all dead/camped to die as well and blame it on the fucked aggro.

Basically, charging guild stands to lose multiple people and spy guild stands to lose 1 (maybe up to 3).

If you had just sent out 2-3 people to pull CT just a little towards your camp and then have your force charge the rest after FTE confirmation, you'd not of had that happen. The NPC charging factor is more acceptable than the bullshit troll snipes.

Obvious answer is to perma root all raid mobs.

[Yapas]

lol without Abraham we are not able to kill a dragon :( Sorry "Dear Leader Sloan"

[Zeelot]

Except that most TMO were camped at NE corner. You guys just keep trying every angle lol

[Tiggles]

Just sounds like a rules clarification is needed. Raid rules are patched together as it is, and GMs seem to have the final say regardless of the rules. P99 is basically mega city 1.

http://i.imgur.com/1KasVRE.jpg

[Tanthallas]

Except that your own logs just show your members asking to zone in, and those same members on your /who 25 seconds later

[Zeelot]

Except that your own logs just show your members asking to zone in, and those same members on your /who 25 seconds later

Singular just became plural in sloanworld

[Yapas]

Except that your own logs just show your members asking to zone in, and those same members on your /who 25 seconds later

objection your honor ! Just 1 member.

[Tanthallas]

Singular just became plural in sloanworld

I assumed the guy wasnt sitting out there alone like a retard - maybe he was, who knows!

[Autotune]

I'm pretty sure I have more credibility than any of you trolls do.

I adopted TMO as my guild 10 months ago and in my time here the only time I've ever heard someone shout in vent that we should blatantly raid interfere with another guild it was Quickfingers, and guess what? they told him to clear vent.

Since you guys go out of your way to malign my guild to everyone you can I will do the same.


Dear Server,

From this point forth I will no longer be offering my customary courtesies to you if you are flying an FE or IB tag. I will not offer support in any way no matter how dire. Furthermore if you openly express sympathy or support for them I will also deny my buffs and assistance to you.

I encourage those of you who can see the malignancy that is Shinko for what he is, to abandon him and his tactics and compete legitimately. You do very well when you do.

To those outside this situation looking in, don't believe the propaganda. TMO is filled with good people who like to work hard and slay dragons. If you want to do the same, and have 10-12 hours a week to play, you can be a part of the crew as well. Even if you don't know any TMO members when you apply. Before I applied my only experience was competing against them. I certainly won't say that we have never caused a train in hate at an inny raid, but we work hard to abide by the server rules.

Just fucking kill yourself.

DO you honestly think any of them running around out there doing what needs to be done is going to give you a fucking play by play of their movements over vent?

These tactics on CT (and a few others) aren't new, it's something that has been around for quite awhile.

Even if TMO managed to get that CT pull when not prepared and FE/IB didn't have a rush engage fucked, all TMO had to do was pull it towards their camp and then die on the way to totally fuck up an FE/IB pull (there are no punishments for failing to get a "pull" back to your camp).

[Tanthallas]

But it seems you are up to your old log doctoring ways Zeelot; where are the other two FE FTE messages that follow wavaran are in the FRAPs? Did you conveniently edit out 15 seconds of all the FE people casting and engaging CT?

[Tanthallas]

Save the time machine for when you are prepared to not fuck up your young doctoring, buddy.

[Yapas]

Do you really think we need to doctor logs to beat FE/IB ?
Also I can understand that truth can burn & blind your eyes

[Zeelot]

lol now it's log doctoring. The last angle you can rely on?

No one engaged between Wavaran and Domjot, you must've been at a different CT than I was.

[mishurza]

I'm sorry, dumping an aggro clicky into another guilds engage and then running it away at sow speed from their raid force is something I have never seen before on p99. I didn't realize this was a standard CT tactic. Sorry I have to go kill a dragon.

[Autotune]

I'm sorry, dumping an aggro clicky into another guilds engage and then running it away at sow speed from their raid force is something I have never seen before on p99. I didn't realize this was a standard CT tactic. Sorry I have to go kill a dragon.

Probably because you sit in a TMO camp and wait to be told when to autoattack.

[radditsu]

Just fucking kill yourself.

DO you honestly think any of them running around out there doing what needs to be done is going to give you a fucking play by play of their movements over vent?

These tactics on CT (and a few others) aren't new, it's something that has been around for quite awhile.

Even if TMO managed to get that CT pull when not prepared and FE/IB didn't have a rush engage fucked, all TMO had to do was pull it towards their camp and then die on the way to totally fuck up an FE/IB pull (there are no punishments for failing to get a "pull" back to your camp).

[radditsu]

lol now it's log doctoring. The last angle you can rely on?

No one engaged between Wavaran and Domjot, you must've been at a different CT than I was.

Merkks spell fizzles

[Tiggles]

Probably because you sit in a TMO camp and wait to be told when to autoattack.

He is an enchanter I'm sure he buffs the raid before the CT pull then spams ae stun afterwards.

[Clark]

Just sounds like a rules clarification is needed. Raid rules are patched together as it is, and GMs seem to have the final say regardless of the rules. P99 is basically mega city 1.

1. We had three FTEs before your snipe wherein you obtained the fourth and final FTE; if you are really that fucking retarded to think that at this point it was possible to camp people out without wiping an entire force, I feel very bad for you. The ability to snipe FTE, especially in the context of one guild getting the first three FTE messages while another gets the fourth and last - should not allow one guild to force the other to wipe. IF you are not prepared to engage and hold aggro, do not go in and try to snipe FTE - it would be one thing if Imba sank in insane amount of aggro generating clickies, but as evidenced in the FRAPs he did not. TMO was CLEARLY not prepared at all to actually engage CT at the instance where they snipped FTE, which is evident by even their own members admitting that their raid was at the North-East corner while all of FE / IB forces where directly ontop of CT. Actually, their whole raid wasnt even at NE corner - half of them were RUNNING to NE corner from the zone in. This used to be punishable by suspension and other action if it continued; when the fuck did this become a legitimate raid maneuver - it is douchbaggery at its finest.

2. FTE sniping, per the staff, is now completely legal and not frowned upon in any effective way. To say that this isnt a recent change due to the implementation of yellow text is pure blinders / ignorance. When FE first started competing with TMO, Sirken himself refused me loot many times on many instances where FE had FTE simply because 'FE did not have a sufficient force engage'. This was regardless of what TMO did during our FTE and in what way TMO caused any harm upon our ability to engage on our FTE.

3. FTE messages WERE NOT put in to make FTE sniping the standard for raiding - they were put in to minimize confusion as to who had FTE so that people who SNIPED were not rewarded. FTE sniping was punished in the past quite frequently, and for a long time considered as a form of raid interference. Instead of FTE shouts being a way in which their initial purpose could be fulfilled, this wonderful yellow text has become an easy way for the staff to avoid the context of any situation and merely point at what the yellow text says for the solution to everything. This ALLOWS FTE sniping to run rampant - any guild which chooses to not behave accordingly - i.e., not FTE snipe / react to FTE snipes in some idealized fashion - gets fucked, as is evident by the recent rulings. The mechanism put in to allow guilds who are attempting to get clean engages and to hurt douchbag sniping behavior is now used to defend sniping - how ironic.

4. Sorry dad.

^ This

Also what's with all the TMO Tomfoolery in here. Is embarrassing you guys are low class lmao.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Probably because you sit in a TMO camp and wait to be told when to autoattack.

Read his sig bro, he's an enchanter, he's got to at least do haste / clarity! Maybe some ae stunning for a ct. oooooh.

[radditsu]

He is an enchanter I'm sure he buffs the raid before the CT pull then spams ae stun afterwards.

Huge responsibility and requires top reflexes

[Autotune]

He is an enchanter I'm sure he buffs the raid before the CT pull then spams ae stun afterwards.

Ah, I knew it was something along those lines lol.

[Autotune]

Read his sig bro, he's an enchanter, he's got to at least do haste / clarity! Maybe some ae stunning for a ct. oooooh.

I confess, I don't read sig's from the forum names I don't recognize.

[Tiggles]

^ This

Also what's with all the TMO Tomfoolery in here. Is embarrassing you guys are low class lmao.

Care to comment on you being a banned RMT scumbag?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I confess, I don't read sig's from the forum names I don't recognize.

I should get a sig. Or play this game. Naaaah :p

[Clark]

http://s8.postimg.org/ct7lq8p39/3qybwh.jpg
Care to comment

Prove it

[Autotune]

I should get a sig. Or play this game. Naaaah :p

Starbound seems to be much more interesting, even though I can't play it yet and it's still in beta.

[Funkutron5000]

I'm sticking with Terreria, mostly. Addicting in its rage inducement.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I'm sticking with Terreria, mostly. Addicting in its rage inducement.

Terraria caps out pretty quickly though. 2.0 caps out even faster than 1.1, really. Still, the ludicrously overpowered gear can be fun for a bit :p

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Starbound seems to be much more interesting, even though I can't play it yet and it's still in beta.

New patch tomorrow? Rebalancing lots of things. Got to highest threat planets, max armor, high arp weapons--shit was hilariously buggy. You may want to give it a bit.

[Tiggles]

I'm sticking with Terreria, mostly. Addicting in its rage inducement.

Just beat Dark souls again try if you enjoy rage inducing.

[Autotune]

Terraria caps out pretty quickly though. 2.0 caps out even faster than 1.1, really. Still, the ludicrously overpowered gear can be fun for a bit :p

This is why I couldn't get back into Terraria, even starting over from scratch again, I just knew I would be able to shoot back up and dominate everything.

[Autotune]

Just beat Dark souls again try if you enjoy rage inducing.

I beat it recently and then went and started on NG+

Fucking NG+ 4kings was a rage inducer indeed, much worse than NG+ O&S.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I feel like we're getting off topic here.

Tiggles, your mother's a whore. CT deserved to go to Divinity for just being swell.

[Freakish]

Merkks spell fizzles

http://i.imgur.com/JDSxbex.png

[Freakish]

^ You can stop with the Merkk's spell fizzles.

[Yapas]

huge Facepalm @ all shitface who spitted on Zeelot's logs !

[Tiggles]

http://i.imgur.com/JDSxbex.png

Bad guy turned good guy Butchh just came in and slam dunked this thread.

[radditsu]

Bad guy turned good guy Butchh just came in and slam dunked this thread.

Lol ya morans

[Tanthallas]

Missing 20 seconds inbetween FTE messages; claims he didnt tamper with logs.

Do you really think everyone around is retarded just because the majority of your guild is, Zeelot?

[YendorLootmonkey]

I can remember last time I saw BDA engaging CT, they was 15 or 20 and ran directly to CT and die 30 sec laters. Was couple months ago now.

After reading this thread, everyone outside of TMO/FE/IB should completely understand why. We can't afford the film crews and legal teams to compete on this level.

[Tanthallas]

We can't afford the film crews and legal teams to compete on this level.

FE is currently hiring.

[Yapas]

Bon appétit Sloan !
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/r.gif?w=320

[Tanthallas]

Bon appétit Sloan !
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/r.gif?w=320

Im not sure what is being implied here, but just in case - no i will not have sex with you.

[Yapas]

Was friendly ! Learn french !

[Clark]

Missing 20 seconds inbetween FTE messages; claims he didnt tamper with logs.

Do you really think everyone around is retarded just because the majority of your guild is, Zeelot?

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

This isn't a dig or a shot at anyone but can I conclude things haven't been sorted yet and we are still faced with the same I remember?

[Zeelot]

But it seems you are up to your old log doctoring ways Zeelot; where are the other two FE FTE messages that follow wavaran are in the FRAPs? Did you conveniently edit out 15 seconds of all the FE people casting and engaging CT?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTtmWTR-3kc&feature=youtu.be

This fraps shows the time lag between Wavaran FTE and Domjot FTE. Where's the two FE FTE messages that follow? That's right they don't exist. And people really wonder who the bullshitters are? :p

[Heebo]

This isn't a dig or a shot at anyone but can I conclude things haven't been sorted yet and we are still faced with the same I remember?

Welcome back, buddy.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Hey man and thanks! Since this is RnF wtf happened to my compass

[Yapas]

Compass removed :'(

[Loke]

Is Rogean's policy about guides who decide to post in RnF being fair game still in effect?

[Tanthallas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTtmWTR-3kc&feature=youtu.be

This fraps shows the time lag between Wavaran FTE and Domjot FTE. Where's the two FE FTE messages that follow? That's right they don't exist. And people really wonder who the bullshitters are? :p

You are right, FE had two messages prior,- the sniping was stronger than I thought; however where is the 10 odd seconds between when abraham says can I zone in and you do a /who, young doctor. Did you happen to run away from every relevant person and mob for 10 seconds to go sightsee around fear?

Regardless of your little sightseeing adventures, why is there a time discrepancy here, young doctor:

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Malcolm <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Jasminda <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bialar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alarti <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Detoxx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Purpl <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Soapx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dosxx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saden <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ezathule <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Carrina <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:53 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

and your logs:

You guys are trying hard on deflecting this one eh.

[Fri Dec 06 22:01:48 2013] Bashyr says, 'war lfg'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bashyr <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bowdown <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkanoff <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fortiss <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arttamis <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Imba (Skeleton) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Mithra <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Krashed (Ogre) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Oily <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Marksman <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Versaager <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fundo <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roublard <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] There are 13 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aerioch <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Amothiel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [52 Rake] Rodent (Gnome) <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Danjerr <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bier <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Getsome <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Drippin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Destroyed <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Analia <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kragnus <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Varzii <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Nukin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Wavaran <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] There are 14 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:54 2013] Butchh steps into the shadows and disappears.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule engages Wavaran!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule says 'WAVARAN'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:58 2013] Abraham tells the guild, 'zone in?'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Domjot's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule engages Domjot!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] You hit Cazic Thule for 6 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:12 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:13 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:14 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'DOMJOT'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:16 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Joystick begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:18 2013] Joystick's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:19 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:21 2013] Butchh's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:23 2013] a phantasm's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:24 2013] Oily begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
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[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:28 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:29 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:30 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:35 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] a tentacle tormentor begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] a turmoil toad begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a turmoil toad's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Dosxx says out of character, 'nice kite'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 24 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 26 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:42 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 165 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Ezathule kicks Cazic Thule for 1 point of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Fountree tells the guild, 'kiting = raid interference'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

Maybe its just me, but it seems that your own guildmembers logs contradict your logs; his time-clock remains consistent with yours 22:02:27 when the /who was taken; however it strangely diverges when IMBA is deathtouched. What is even stranger is that these are the same exact logs - either that or you all have a magical way of doing /who at the same time while being in the exact same place. So tell me, doctor, who tampered with the fucking logs.

[Yapas]

Hi my E-name is Sloan and I am Paranoid ( Shinko infected me probably) and I am Also...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/32d237fa0e5fb8f901a9841714353abf/tumblr_mx9idxMTFE1qljz4so1_1280.jpg

[Tanthallas]

Your pictures creep the fuck out of me; where do you find this shit and why do you think its funny.

[Fazlazen]

so has the AoN been moved into my inventory yet?

[Yapas]

Your pictures creep the fuck out of me; where do you find this shit and why do you think its funny.

1) good !
2) Seek by yourself
3) Only funny thing actually is your tears

[YendorLootmonkey]

This isn't a dig or a shot at anyone but can I conclude things haven't been sorted yet and we are still faced with the same I remember?

There are still shadows and a lack of truces.

[Zeelot]

You are right, FE had two messages prior,- the sniping was stronger than I thought; however where is the 10 odd seconds between when abraham says can I zone in and you do a /who, young doctor. Did you happen to run away from every relevant person and mob for 10 seconds to go sightsee around fear?

Regardless of your little sightseeing adventures, why is there a time discrepancy here, young doctor:



and your logs:



Maybe its just me, but it seems that your own guildmembers logs contradict your logs; his time-clock remains consistent with yours 22:02:27 when the /who was taken; however it strangely diverges when IMBA is deathtouched. What is even stranger is that these are the same exact logs - either that or you all have a magical way of doing /who at the same time while being in the exact same place. So tell me, doctor, who tampered with the fucking logs.

eqmaze logs are different than the one on my computer, looks like his pasted Imba deathtouch in his post is from a different log with a different clock than my /who guild. Your persistence amazes me. Just admit the obvious like you should! Imba tagged a TMO engage and messed it up, he should've just stood still and there would've been no issue at all. If you put a mallet into someone else's FTE you should be prepared to stand and die.

[kotton05]

you guys sniped fte and rule lawyered this, in the end we still killed him, keep wiping at Vox and trying to catch them raid interfences and petition the GM's to death.

[Tanthallas]

eqmaze logs are different than the one on my computer, looks like his pasted Imba deathtouch in his post is from a different log with a different clock than my /who guild. Your persistence amazes me. Just admit the obvious like you should! Imba tagged a TMO engage and messed it up, he should've just stood still and there would've been no issue at all. If you put a mallet into someone else's FTE you should be prepared to stand and die.

Yes, because clearly the person using your who logs would go ahead and copy his own logs to show a timer that was already present on your logs. Logs.

The mallet was actually in at the precise second that domjot sniped FTE off:

[Fri Dec 06 19:02:11 2013] Cazic Thule engages Domjot!
[Fri Dec 06 19:02:11 2013] Your target resisted the Walking Sleep spell.

AND it was only 1 charge. You TMO have a strange way of trying to engage and kill a mob; no raid force near the mob, a few FTE snipers spamming aggro items, and the incapacity to pull aggro off of 1 cast of walking sleep.

By the way - there were 24 of you in zone, half of the force that wasnt FTE snipping running in from the portal to NE corner at the time. You should do a /who at, lets say, not 30 seconds after the FTE message was shouted next time. But then again, you wouldnt be a young doctor if you did.

[baramur]

Amazes me after the first fte message you still engage the mob to snipe after dt, the question becomes would your warrior have been suspended for engaging a mob that another guild had fte on, if be had not auccessfully sniped it after the dt?

[Tanthallas]

Amazes me after the first fte message you still engage the mob to snipe after dt, the question becomes would your warrior have been suspended for engaging a mob that another guild had fte on, if be had not auccessfully sniped it after the dt?

No I would have been banned for forcing a TMO warrior to engage a mob that wasnt his, obv.

[Zeelot]

Sloan lies publicly whenever convenient to him i.e. in below quoted post. Then doubletalk/backtalks it & brings up irrelevant other things to distract from it. You guys should quit while you are ahead.


Quote:
Tanthallas
But it seems you are up to your old log doctoring ways Zeelot; where are the other two FE FTE messages that follow wavaran are in the FRAPs? Did you conveniently edit out 15 seconds of all the FE people casting and engaging CT?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTtmW...ature=youtu.be


Zeelot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTtmW...ature=youtu.be

This fraps shows the time lag between Wavaran FTE and Domjot FTE. Where's the two FE FTE messages that follow? That's right they don't exist. And people really wonder who the bullshitters are?

[Tanthallas]

Sloan lies publicly whenever convenient to him i.e. in below quoted post. Then doubletalk/backtalks it & brings up irrelevant other things to distract from it. You guys should quit while you are ahead.

Oh noe, I was mistaken that there were TWO fte shouts inbetween. All my other points MUST be invalid.

This is why we are looking to hire a new raid lawyer - I clearly fall prey to my honesty far too often. That and, well, Sirken likes EQ chicks.

[Splorf22]

Watching these videos, its obvious that the current mechanics of 'double' FTE for charming/DTing mobs are beyond retarded and need to be fixed.

What would you guys think of Nilbog changing the FTE shout such that after an FTE/reset event, only players of the same guild as the original player can get the second FTE for 15 seconds?

[MaksimMazor]

Jesus Christ the tears

[Yapas]

Jesus Christ the tears

Yeah I never see that ! A lake of tears has been created.

[radditsu]

Oh look 2 autoattackers trying to seem relevant.

Answer your batphones and let the grown men talk.

[Ella`Ella]

eqmaze logs are different than the one on my computer, looks like his pasted Imba deathtouch in his post is from a different log with a different clock than my /who guild. Your persistence amazes me. Just admit the obvious like you should! Imba tagged a TMO engage and messed it up, he should've just stood still and there would've been no issue at all. If you put a mallet into someone else's FTE you should be prepared to stand and die.

It just amazes me that TMO can't pull aggro from a warrior with only a single charge of mallet into CT. Do none of your warrior come prepared with full mallets?

Strikes me as manipulating the FTE rules to get us to down the target and your failed raid force to reap the benefits. I guess it's still a loss on your part since you don't get the loot either. Who needs strategy when you've got a legal team?

[Zeelot]

^ You sound mad. Shouldn't break the rules bro

[Alarti0001]

Oh noe, I was mistaken that there were TWO fte shouts inbetween. All my other points MUST be invalid.

This is why we are looking to hire a new raid lawyer - I clearly fall prey to my honesty far too often. That and, well, Sirken likes EQ chicks.

Sloan and honesty clear oxymoron.

[Alarti0001]

It just amazes me that TMO can't pull aggro from a warrior with only a single charge of mallet into CT. Do none of your warrior come prepared with full mallets?

Strikes me as manipulating the FTE rules to get us to down the target and your failed raid force to reap the benefits. I guess it's still a loss on your part since you don't get the loot either. Who needs strategy when you've got a legal team?

Unbrella still doesnt understand low hp aggro.

[Ella`Ella]

Unbrella still doesnt understand low hp aggro.

It's not low HP aggro.

Imba was hit once for 2 damage by a phantasm at full HP. Only other explanation would be Imba sitting? Hard to sit when you're running a mob straight to Nwall -- but you knew that, you have the fraps.

[Alarti0001]

Yes, because clearly the person using your who logs would go ahead and copy his own logs to show a timer that was already present on your logs. Logs.

The mallet was actually in at the precise second that domjot sniped FTE off:

[Fri Dec 06 19:02:11 2013] Cazic Thule engages Domjot!
[Fri Dec 06 19:02:11 2013] Your target resisted the Walking Sleep spell.

AND it was only 1 charge. You TMO have a strange way of trying to engage and kill a mob; no raid force near the mob, a few FTE snipers spamming aggro items, and the incapacity to pull aggro off of 1 cast of walking sleep.

By the way - there were 24 of you in zone, half of the force that wasnt FTE snipping running in from the portal to NE corner at the time. You should do a /who at, lets say, not 30 seconds after the FTE message was shouted next time. But then again, you wouldnt be a young doctor if you did.

Sloan stop cheating or you might be raid suspended for 2 weeks next time. I wonder how well FE/IB will do playing clean. Its gonna be a new world.

[MaksimMazor]

Oh look 2 autoattackers trying to seem relevant.

Answer your batphones and let the grown men talk.

Just commenting on the flow of tears

[Alarti0001]

It's not low HP aggro.

Imba was hit once for 2 damage by a phantasm at full HP. Only other explanation would be Imba sitting? Hard to sit when you're running a mob straight to Nwall -- but you knew that, you have the fraps.

2hp... ++++

Show his full hp haha.

[Ella`Ella]

Server logs don't show TMO putting any threat greater than a single mallet be put into the target...

Is this real life?

[hatelore]

Oh look 2 autoattackers trying to seem relevant.

Answer your batphones and let the grown men talk.

lol. ouch~

[Alarti0001]

Server logs don't show TMO putting any threat greater than a single mallet be put into the target...

Is this real life?

Server logs arent on the first engage... cause wait... they reset for engages..... Do you understand this server at all?

[Gaffin 3.0]

this thread is hella tite

[Tanthallas]

The woman in Gaffin's link would be appropriate for the position of rule lawyer now available in FE.

Please forward me the relevant contact info, Gaffin.

[Pheer]

Dear Server,

From this point forth I will no longer be offering my customary courtesies to you if you are flying an FE or IB tag. I will not offer support in any way no matter how dire. Furthermore if you openly express sympathy or support for them I will also deny my buffs and assistance to you.

I encourage those of you who can see the malignancy that is Shinko for what he is, to abandon him and his tactics and compete legitimately. You do very well when you do.

To those outside this situation looking in, don't believe the propaganda. TMO is filled with good people who like to work hard and slay dragons. If you want to do the same, and have 10-12 hours a week to play, you can be a part of the crew as well. Even if you don't know any TMO members when you apply. Before I applied my only experience was competing against them. I certainly won't say that we have never caused a train in hate at an inny raid, but we work hard to abide by the server rules.

Go fuck yourself

I've taken enough bullshit from Transcendence/DA/TMO members over the past 4 years of EQ to last a lifetime and I still never held a grudge against other members of their guild. Even when I got petitioned for "attempted training" while holding a kite of half of PoF that was actually keeping the competing guild safe as they moved to north wall alongside my guild, I still didn't take it out on others.

Last night I was headed to a seb group to replace a TMO tank, and once I was in zone and he realized my guild tag he decided to hammer out and force his group to come get me themselves instead of helping them clear out even though Ive literally been to like 1 raid in the last year. Oh and he had a guildie in that group he left hanging too just to clarify the type of person we're talking about.

This whole attitude of "a few people said something mean about my guild on the forums so I'm going to punish every person with their guildtag" is immature and pathetic as fuck.

[Ella`Ella]

Server logs arent on the first engage... cause wait... they reset for engages..... Do you understand this server at all?

Sirken nor Deru were able to figure out what was causing Imba to keep threat, despite logs showing him only taking 2 damage throughout the whole encounter. Do you understand how aggro works, Alarti? I can give you or your warriors a quick rundown on how to generate threat if you need.

[Alarti0001]

Sirken nor Deru were able to figure out what was causing Imba to keep threat, despite logs showing him only taking 2 damage throughout the whole encounter. Do you understand how aggro works, Alarti? I can give you or your warriors a quick rundown on how to generate threat if you need.

Herp derp.. you do realize you can take dmg before an encounter... herp derp.

keep spinning bro we got fraps of us spamming aggro without the ability to peel :)

[kotton05]

he didn't tank any damage before engage derp

[Hitpoint]

Herp derp.. you do realize you can take dmg before an encounter... herp derp.


Lol what? So it was his plan to run in and tank CT, with lower than 20% health? Of course he knew FTE was going to be sniped, and planned to kite it. Imba can foresee the future. Confirmed.

[baramur]

The qhole of tmo wasnt to engage the mob at all, it was just to fuck up fe engage by sniping fte. They just wanted to fuck fe engage up by grabbing fte and forcing fe to camp. Dirty thats all you can say, spin it how you want retardialarti, your guikd should have been banned for even trying to engage after first fte, the fact fte resets on dt, is a broke mechanic. Why not just admit you werent trying to engage, you were just trying to fuck up fe/ib engage. Then you go and cry until you get your way, lol how many times has tmo wiped other guilds to get targets.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

There are still shadows and a lack of truces.

But still, always thanks for shaere.

[Zeelot]

http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/This+is+the+song+that+never+ends.+It+_45f6b48a0f2c 7db3c89602ef97266484.jpg

[Tasslehofp99]

Check this shit out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K_YArIVqTM&feature=youtu.be


In this video, TMO trained us because we were ahead of them in the race for CT. They ended up getting the kill, and got to keep their loot. How is this fair? Where is the justice/consistency in these decisions being made? Maybe Desmo got a 3 day suspension for this, but TMO wasn't raid suspended and got to keep their loot.

So why whenever FE is caught doing something against the rules in the last year have they been raid suspended and or had their loot taken away? Why doesn't the same happen to TMO, ever?

[Hitpoint]

So I hear today at Vox, BDA pretended to run in to engage Vox and then backed off at the last second. TMO ran some scoundrels in to snipe FTE before them, and proceeded to wipe. BDA doing Gods work.

[Tanthallas]

This was a few days before the public message that poofing will get you banned, as well.

YOURE BANNED FAGGOT - RIP Fistn.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/This+is+the+song+that+never+ends.+It+_45f6b48a0f2c 7db3c89602ef97266484.jpg

This is the thread that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started posting in it not knowing what it was and they'll continue posting in it forever just because....

This is the thread that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started posting in it not knowing what it was and they'll continue posting in it forever just because....

This is the thread that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started posting in it not knowing what it was and they'll continue posting in it forever just because....

[hatelore]

retardialarti, lol. That made me snicker for some reason.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

This was a few days before the public message that poofing will get you banned, as well.

YOURE BANNED FAGGOT - RIP Fistn.

Heh, who was that cleric you were chasing in VP for like 3 hours? Kept disapearing when he had mobs on him.

[Tanthallas]

Uncle Aiaus, our servers very own David Copperfield.

But certianly that was not stalling us from a legitimate engage on Xygoz and did not warrant any further action against TMO. He was just chain insta-poofing to res TMO officers that were training us because FE was in the wrong for trying to take TMOs loot.

[Alarti0001]

Lol what? So it was his plan to run in and tank CT, with lower than 20% health? Of course he knew FTE was going to be sniped, and planned to kite it. Imba can foresee the future. Confirmed.

Your bard kiter took the first DT very obvious that was a botched engage on your end to begin with. More than likely he was already low hp without intention to engage.

Hitpoint... FE is the bad guys. Suspension last week, likely suspension next week.

If you want to join the good guys please app at themysticalorder.net

[Tasslehofp99]

CT is a shit encounter if you're against TMO

They'll either start the DT cycle or drop a train on you

Unless you go to these levels .. it's a shit encounter.

Your bard kiter took the first DT very obvious that was a botched engage on your end to begin with. More than likely he was already low hp without intention to engage.

Hitpoint... FE is the bad guys. Suspension last week, likely suspension next week.

If you want to join the good guys please app at themysticalorder.net

Delusional.

[Alarti0001]

The qhole of tmo wasnt to engage the mob at all, it was just to fuck up fe engage by sniping fte. They just wanted to fuck fe engage up by grabbing fte and forcing fe to camp. Dirty thats all you can say, spin it how you want retardialarti, your guikd should have been banned for even trying to engage after first fte, the fact fte resets on dt, is a broke mechanic. Why not just admit you werent trying to engage, you were just trying to fuck up fe/ib engage. Then you go and cry until you get your way, lol how many times has tmo wiped other guilds to get targets.

We had 35 plus ready to engage 43 with zone ins. Yes we planned to kill CT. LOL

[Alarti0001]

Check this shit out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K_YArIVqTM&feature=youtu.be


In this video, TMO trained us because we were ahead of them in the race for CT. They ended up getting the kill, and got to keep their loot. How is this fair? Where is the justice/consistency in these decisions being made? Maybe Desmo got a 3 day suspension for this, but TMO wasn't raid suspended and got to keep their loot.

So why whenever FE is caught doing something against the rules in the last year have they been raid suspended and or had their loot taken away? Why doesn't the same happen to TMO, ever?

In that video... CT was already dead. LOL

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Your bard kiter took the first DT very obvious that was a botched engage on your end to begin with. More than likely he was already low hp without intention to engage.

Hitpoint... FE is the bad guys. Suspension last week, likely suspension next week.

If you want to join the good guys please app at themysticalorder.net

In P99 raiding, there are no good guys or bad guys. It all depends on the particular situation and everyone vies for their own interest, obviously. It's just a shame it's such a shitshow for like 4 years constant for the GMs.

[khanable]

So I hear today at Vox, BDA pretended to run in to engage Vox and then backed off at the last second. TMO ran some scoundrels in to snipe FTE before them, and proceeded to wipe. BDA doing Gods work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNY0WeJUJxk

[Tanthallas]

Actually you had a total of 26 in zone when Wavaran got FTE, which includes your impressive 8 person snipe army - 8 of which we can account for, at the least, in terms of them casting spells on CT.

I would refer you to exhibit A: In Zeelots FRAPs Fountree says in CAPS in guildchat that there are 15 people outside fear portal ready to zone in, which corresponds in time to when Abraham asked if he could zone in.

Please stick to not making arguments which can be refuted, you are not good at talking about actual events that actually occur.

[Alarti0001]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNY0WeJUJxk

All I see in this video is that BDA needs 300 players to kill Vox lol.

[arsenalpow]

5 Vox's in a row

please tell us how vox is irrelevant now and how come we don't come to VP or some other stupid argument

[Alarti0001]

5 Vox's in a row

please tell us how vox is irrelevant now and how come we don't come to VP or some other stupid argument

LOLOL Chest claiming dominance due to vox. New low

[Tanthallas]

In that video... CT was already dead. LOL

No, he wasnt.

[arsenalpow]

LOLOL Chest claiming dominance due to vox. New low

we're dominating vox, permafrost is casual country now, stay away beared scum

[Furniture]

I'm just confused that the GMs actively prefer this situation over literally any other set of raid rules. Like some teenage girls feeling off drama :P


I agree, these FTE rules do nothing but start a circus of bullshit and petty drama as evident by this thread.

[kotton05]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNY0WeJUJxk

PRAISE, lol tmo wtf

[Yapas]

I agree, these FTE rules do nothing but start a circus of bullshit and petty drama as evident by this thread.

People just need to be aware and read FTE message and it will resolve all issues. It was more worse before, when no FTE message.

[AenarieFenninRo]

In the first engage, FE/IB trained TMO's engage away from their force.


http://i.imgur.com/LVyFy8W.png


Tasslehof, are you going to now step up and live up to your convictions and demand that Imba be suspended for a month?

[Tasslehofp99]

In that video... CT was already dead. LOL

No, he wasn't.

[Alarti0001]

No, he wasn't.

Yes he was. That was desmo camping /q out after a kill. Sorry if you got trained post CT death.

[Tasslehofp99]

Really? So he was running from the opposite direction (southwest) of where CT spawns/is normally engaged, as were other TMO members seen in the video.


You're just a liar, lol.

[Tanthallas]

Oh so thats what you told the GMs. Makes sense now.

And no, he wasnt.

[kotton05]

MY HEAD JUST EXPLODED

[kotton05]

we're dominating vox, permafrost is casual country now, stay away beared scum

LOL

[kotton05]

that's great, we should just do that to ct now chest i bet it'd work

[Alarti0001]

Really? So he was running from the opposite direction (southwest) of where CT spawns/is normally engaged, as were other TMO members seen in the video.


You're just a liar, lol.

Ct back in april (when this video was taken) was engaged on the west side of the firewall. Very commonly we would run north and east to the relative safety of the north wall to camp out.

Where this is filmed from is the north or north west section of the fire wall. If you want you can have perun draw you a map.

[Alarti0001]

Ct back in april (when this video was taken) was engaged on the west side of the firewall. Very commonly we would run north and east to the relative safety of the north wall to camp out.

Where this is filmed from is the north or north west section of the fire wall. If you want you can have perun draw you a map.

Edit we would run north then west. Since there is only 2 pathers just north of fire wall. We also engaged on the east side of firewall.

[Tanthallas]

Where this is filmed is where FEs raid force is; where you brought mobs is to FEs raid force; explaning this to you is beyond even the powers of Perun, I believe.

[Alarti0001]

Where this is filmed is where FEs raid force is; where you brought mobs is to FEs raid force; explaning this to you is beyond even the powers of Perun, I believe.

Quick run away from this argument because you were caught lying by gm's.

[Purdee]

All I see in this video is that BDA needs 300 players to kill Vox lol.

And how many do you need, dip shit?

[Eccezan]

Oh noe, I was mistaken that there were TWO fte shouts inbetween. All my other points MUST be invalid.

This is why we are looking to hire a new raid lawyer - I clearly fall prey to my honesty far too often. That and, well, Sirken likes EQ chicks.

Hey Sloan, looks like you cant tell the truth from a hole in the wall. Care to comment?

P.S. Your guild is terrible mainly because you are their leader.

[khanable]

And how many do you need, dip shit?

shhh, when alarti's only complaint about something you've done is 'lol omg zerg' then you've done really good

[Junkman]

4404

[Purdee]

shhh, when alarti's only complaint about something you've done is 'lol omg zerg' then you've done really good


That is pretty hilarious....considering....lol never mind

[Alarti0001]

shhh, when alarti's only complaint about something you've done is 'lol omg zerg' then you've done really good

Ya you camp out a very large force there. We hardly even spot check if its up. GJ!

[Tanthallas]

Hey Sloan, looks like you cant tell the truth from a hole in the wall. Care to comment?

P.S. Your guild is terrible mainly because you are their leader.

www.eccezan.com

[Autotune]

Ya you camp out a very large force there. We hardly even spot check if its up. GJ!

You hardly spot check it, but i bet TMO's Vox/Naggy force is larger than theirs.

also

Why the fuck would TMO do anything but spot check for Vox? You've had more than enough time to farm the fuck out of it and forcing people to go kill Vox would just be a waste, because you'd just annoy the fuck out of all your fellow coattail riders.

GJ. You do nothing out of the ordinary. Fucking idiot.

[khanable]

Ya you camp out a very large force there. We hardly even spot check if its up. GJ!

Now now.. every minute we have a tracker going you guys have a tracker going. Always. Just say congrats and get it over with.

Jeez.

[Purdee]

Now now.. every minute we have a tracker going you guys have a tracker going. Always. Just say congrats and get it over with.

Jeez.

Now you're spinning pickles....

[Eccezan]

www.eccezan.com

Oh another lie. Sloan posting his troll Web site that someone in his guild made about me in my honor!

Way to prove your untrustworthy nature Sloan.

[Alarti0001]

You hardly spot check it, but i bet TMO's Vox/Naggy force is larger than theirs.

also

Why the fuck would TMO do anything but spot check for Vox? You've had more than enough time to farm the fuck out of it and forcing people to go kill Vox would just be a waste, because you'd just annoy the fuck out of all your fellow coattail riders.

GJ. You do nothing out of the ordinary. Fucking idiot.

Shut up you worthless coat tail rider. You are just talking shit now cause you hope to get in IB. TMO won't let you ride their coats anymore.

You are a third tier necro on your best day. Grade A shit talker though.

[Alarti0001]

Now now.. every minute we have a tracker going you guys have a tracker going. Always. Just say congrats and get it over with.

Jeez.

So you admit we don't camp out a large raid for there. LOL

[arsenalpow]

spin spin spin

http://gifs.gifbin.com/1235732758_dog_spinning_pn_turntable.gif

[Tanthallas]

Oh another lie. Sloan posting his troll Web site that someone in his guild made about me in my honor!

Way to prove your untrustworthy nature Sloan.

I just wanted to thank you for updating it.

[Autotune]

Shut up you worthless coat tail rider. You are just talking shit now cause you hope to get in IB. TMO won't let you ride their coats anymore.

You are a third tier necro on your best day. Grade A shit talker though.
(Alarti Thought process: He started calling me a coat tail rider, must use that against him herp derp)

I've never had to "hope" to get in IB, they offered many times even when they were kicking our asses.

I'm talking shit cause you constantly post bullshit and are a Grade A idiot.

"Third Tier necro" still better than 97% of TMO.

[Eccezan]

spin spin spin

http://gifs.gifbin.com/1235732758_dog_spinning_pn_turntable.gif

Congratulations chest for creating such a formidable Vox farming guild 5 years after classic p99 was released.

[hatelore]

You sound a lot more hostile lately Alarti, what happened to the jovial " prove it" guy we all loved? Nowadays its just " shut the fuck up!" and "die mothafucka die" and stuff.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DtsVoYu-Pg

[Eccezan]

I just wanted to thank you for updating it.

Lol! Can you say one line that isn't a lie!? Idiot.

[arsenalpow]

Congratulations chest for creating such a formidable Vox farming guild 5 years after classic p99 was released.

congrats on such a sweet leather jacket

[Eccezan]

congrats on such a sweet leather jacket

Lol you got nothing.

[hatelore]

wtf, some nerds remade the gd printer death scene on officespace? The world is def close to ending now, gd...

correct version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PywI0BOxJpI

[Tanthallas]

Lol! Can you say one line that isn't a lie!? Idiot.

Sericx owes Xerxes 100k.