Chest, before calling someone a thief, be sure you don't let your own guild down 1st.

[Godefroi]

[Fri Apr 19 01:31:45 2013] Silkey tells you, 'so was just trying to retrieve that eye'
[Fri Apr 19 01:32:17 2013] You told Silkey, 'eye of innoruk?'
[Fri Apr 19 01:32:19 2013] Silkey tells you, 'yessir
[Fri Apr 19 01:34:40 2013] You told Silkey, 'sorry, I left a month ago with what I had, I aint coming back and asking for 100k+ for port stone plats or silly shit like that'
[Fri Apr 19 01:34:59 2013] Silkey tells you, 'lol, whatever then'

Silkey=chest

QFT, now keep pretending and be the white knight about a thing you didn't give a flying fuck about regarding Slydexx's contribution to BDA. Sucks for your members you let down though.

See you in Hate Pal ;)

[arsenalpow]

So because he spent money on port stones for the guild justifies the thievery? Any loot that was awarded to him was the primary compensation for his contribution to the guild, as it would be for anyone else. If Sly has an exact ledger for port stones he'd like compensation for then we could work something out, just like we do for anyone who buys dots/stones but he doesn't and this is just spin.

He stole from BDA and you benefitted from it knowing full well that the Eye was stolen. You're fucking garbage and anything past that is spin to deflect from the truth - the truth of you being a fucking piece of shit thief. From this day forward I shall address you as "That piece of shit Visceral" and I hope that others will do the same as well. Get fucked.

[Godefroi]

You said Whatever yourself. You let your own guild down.

Keep pretending pal, those logs say it all.

[arsenalpow]

That piece of shit Visceral

[arsenalpow]

Additionally, 4/19 was two days after he had already given you the eye to complete your epic which he neglected to mention as well. More shades of deception there you piece of shit visceral.

[Godefroi]

I asked slydexx about the eye and he said you just said "what ever". This was prior to completing my epic. The logs of your conversation even after it, when you didn't know I had completed it, clearly shows you didn't give a fuck.

Keep on hating you cunt

[jpeute]

Visc, i was wondering, when the Episode 3 going out?

[maverixdamighty]

That piece of shit Visceral

chest calling someone else a piece of shit...the irony!

[Cecily]

Way to foster good will within FE to fix this situation. Personally I'd like Slydexx kicked, and you to get your eye back so you stop posting. God damn cry baby.

[Sadad]

I asked slydexx about the eye and he said you just said "what ever". This was prior to completing my epic. The logs of your conversation even after it, when you didn't know I had completed it, clearly shows you didn't give a fuck.

Keep on hating you cunt

Chest said this with absolutely no knowledge that you had already turned in the eye. He said it to Slydexx out of utter frustration after he was shady over the course of a week - avoiding tells, pretending to be afk in FE's vent and even sending over another former BDA to our vent to try to get us to shut up. Chest gave up on getting it back from Sly himself, but he anticipated that FE leadership would have something to say about it. What an idiot, right?

This proves nothing other than Slydexx thinks that the time he spent porting people to hate and sky (before going afk for the actual raid) means he is justified in fucking over our necros. Keep reaching, keep spinning, keep trying to justify the shitty thing you did. You are just bringing more attention to your and your guild's lack of decency.

I'm done with this. It's clear that you are more interested in creating drama than clearing your rep. Enjoy your dirty epic. Maybe now that you got it your guild won't have to blatantly train us in Hate.

[Signal]

chest calling someone else a piece of shit...the irony!

Like you have very much room to judge anyone's character. Pretending you are decent and being decent is 2 different things. Trying to distract from the point that people in your guild (including yourself) are socially inept to actually do the right thing when it needs to be done shows the farce that is FE and their "Saviors of the Server" image you guys tried to cultivate. Smart people saw who was in the guild (this includes you) and knew it was a sham. No offense play the game as you wish. Just understand some people see the BS and hypocrisy.

[Cecily]

No! I literally just said we didn't try.

[maverixdamighty]

Like you have very much room to judge anyone's character. Pretending you are decent and being decent is 2 different things. Trying to distract from the point that people in your guild (including yourself) are socially inept to actually do the right thing when it needs to be done shows the farce that is FE and their "Saviors of the Server" image you guys tried to cultivate. Smart people saw who was in the guild (this includes you) and knew it was a sham. No offense play the game as you wish. Just understand some people see the BS and hypocrisy.

I do have room to judge character. I don't do anything in game that I would consider rants & flames worthy. I actually go out of my way to help people all the time, if anything. This inny eye has nothing to do with me or the majority of the guild, but people like you and chest are making it into a guild issue when in reality it involves two people.
Chest posting about how BDA doesnt' allow in these type of people etc etc etc is a joke. Chest himself is one of the biggest hypocrites I've encountered on this server. When BDA was actually getting raid targets an probably the #2 guild on server he comes up to a divinity raid and starts pulling mobs down from the isle above us while knowing we were heading up there as soon as we are done with bees. When we finished and got to 7 he continued to pull mobs by us with no regard. Sounds like someone trying to make the server a better place for sure! I have no problem with bda as a whole and don't let the actions of chest and whoever folopak was taint my perception of the guild.

[Godefroi]

Like you have very much room to judge anyone's character. Pretending you are decent and being decent is 2 different things. Trying to distract from the point that people in your guild (including yourself) are socially inept to actually do the right thing when it needs to be done shows the farce that is FE and their "Saviors of the Server" image you guys tried to cultivate. Smart people saw who was in the guild (this includes you) and knew it was a sham. No offense play the game as you wish. Just understand some people see the BS and hypocrisy.

Ya, TMO farming the server and selling MQs for 700k was any better amirite ? Using fast switches, all possible exploits in VP for one sake : cockblock, that's better lol ?

No guilds are all black and white. TMO has a very long history on this server, guild suspensions, members suspensions, members banned for MQ, members caught 2 boxing, members caught RMT'ing, members caught training and suchies and suchies.

We just give the opportunity to raid and not be part of TMO, call it what ever you want, no raiding guild on this server is going to be saviors, the objective of FE is beating TMO, the objective of TMO is staying on top. You're part of TMO you have your point of view, piggy backing is a gameplay I guess, I mean I don't blame you, I was in TR, It was fun for a while killing everything without competition, for 1 month, or so...

the BDA/FE split caused and still causes a lot of drama, I wasn't in BDA so I can't tell, but apparently FE was formed because Chest was an absolutely piece of shit when it came to dialogue and sharing points of view. He's just proving it once again with the eye drama.

Also who is socially inept to do the right thing? Where were you when your guildie Aiaus was blatantly caught fast switching which is an exploit, did you "socially" did the right thing and posted in RnF to demand his guildboot ?

Come on pal, cut the crap, you're full of shit lol.

[Signal]

I do have room to judge character. I don't do anything in game that I would consider rants & flames worthy. I actually go out of my way to help people all the time, if anything. This inny eye has nothing to do with me or the majority of the guild, but people like you and chest are making it into a guild issue when in reality it involves two people.
Chest posting about how BDA doesnt' allow in these type of people etc etc etc is a joke. Chest himself is one of the biggest hypocrites I've encountered on this server. When BDA was actually getting raid targets an probably the #2 guild on server he comes up to a divinity raid and starts pulling mobs down from the isle above us while knowing we were heading up there as soon as we are done with bees. When we finished and got to 7 he continued to pull mobs by us with no regard. Sounds like someone trying to make the server a better place for sure! I have no problem with bda as a whole and don't let the actions of chest and whoever folopak was taint my perception of the guild.

Oh there have been several times you have done things that are Rants and Flames worthy. Some of us don't run here with it every time we encounter someone being a douche such as yourself. There is a running joke about you though about how you massively overrate your importance.... How you have an image of yourself that doesn't quite meet reality.... And by "quite meet" I mean not at all. I am sure more than people I hang around sees it too. It is worth a good laugh every time you post as a white knight though. I imagine that yes in your own mind you are a saint and a Pillar of the community. But every time I see you in game somewhere you seem to always be acting like a douche in one form or another.


I am not defending Chest FYI barely know the guy. Just the actions in particular... Visceral trying to support Slydexx's actions in this situation at all shows the lack of character that one of your new "Officers" possesses. You trying to call out Chest to distract that point is what I am seeing here. Trying to say it is not a reflection on FE is just stupid. The fact that the guy is in your guild and someone from your guild benefited from it ...and your guild continues to harbor him is a direct reflection on your guild. But hey to each their own.

[Alawen]

I'd like to thank all of you for this early birthday present--the biggest asswipes on the server throwing shit at each other. I don't think pointing at TMO is going to get you out of this one, Visceral. Your useless necro epic probably isn't going to help topple the evil empire.

[arsenalpow]

the BDA/FE split caused and still causes a lot of drama, I wasn't in BDA so I can't tell, but apparently FE was formed because Chest was an absolutely piece of shit when it came to dialogue and sharing points of view. He's just proving it once again with the eye drama.

You're an idiot. FE was formed because the BDA leadership had no interest in kowtowing to a small group of people within BDA that demanded we implement DKP and fight fire with fire against TMO. Those who supported the "hardcore" playstyle left and formed FE, and those who wished to remain committed to the BDA playstyle remained.

You can keep calling my rep into question and calling me names but that's not going to make anything you say true. As the red players would say my whistle is clean. Yours however is dirty as fuck. It you want to refund an eye of innoruuk to BDA you know where to find me you piece if shit.

[Signal]

Ya, TMO farming the server and selling MQs for 700k was any better amirite ? Using fast switches, all possible exploits in VP for one sake : cockblock, that's better lol ?

No guilds are all black and white. TMO has a very long history on this server, guild suspensions, members suspensions, members banned for MQ, members caught 2 boxing, members caught RMT'ing, members caught training and suchies and suchies.

We just give the opportunity to raid and not be part of TMO, call it what ever you want, no raiding guild on this server is going to be saviors, the objective of FE is beating TMO, the objective of TMO is staying on top. You're part of TMO you have your point of view, piggy backing is a gameplay I guess, I mean I don't blame you, I was in TR, It was fun for a while killing everything without competition, for 1 month, or so...

the BDA/FE split caused and still causes a lot of drama, I wasn't in BDA so I can't tell, but apparently FE was formed because Chest was an absolutely piece of shit when it came to dialogue and sharing points of view. He's just proving it once again with the eye drama.

Also who is socially inept to do the right thing? Where were you when your guildie Aiaus was blatantly caught fast switching which is an exploit, did you "socially" did the right thing and posted in RnF to demand his guildboot ?

Come on pal, cut the crap, you're full of shit lol.

Why don't you cut the crap and pay BDA for the eye. You benefited from it. Make recompense for it. Don't try to spin it off as "Well I didn't know or I wouldn't have" and then later come back and say "See Chest really didn't care either". Don't tell someone to cut the crap when all you are typing in response is diatribe to support the actions of someone doing something wrong and you benefiting from it. Set an example and do the right thing that you always preach about.

It is funny watching you post though saying all the things people want to hear or you think they want to hear. But when an actual moral dilemma shows up to show your character your only reaction is to support the action that you benefited from by saying "See he didn't really care about it". If you are going to take a moral high ground in every other situation on these forums then do the morally correct thing and pay BDA for it. Don't try to blame it on FE/BDA drama as an excuse for why it happened. Make it right and show you have the character you preach.







We know that won't happen though =)

[Skope]

I'm trying to understand what the hell's going on, but all I see is a bunch of idiots yapping off with little sense being thrown about.

- A player being a douchebag doesn't justify someone stealing from a guild bank.

- Personal quarrels aren't enough for you to paint an entire guild with the same brush.

- A "whatever then" response doesn't mean they don't care, it just means "whatever then."

- No amount of hate stones can pay for something like that. Secondly, if you need stone money, ask for stone money.

- Don't give guild bank access to d-bags.

Additionally, I think it's kind of funny seeing Alawen take the high road here. I say it's funny because he'll be the first one to ignore a wrongdoing provided it benefits him in the end.

Alawen, do let us know when you've actually got a conscience rather than bragging about how you've got such a conscience. Some of us date back a bit further than last week ;)

[maverixdamighty]

Oh there have been several times you have done things that are Rants and Flames worthy. Some of us don't run here with it every time we encounter someone being a douche such as yourself. There is a running joke about you though about how you massively overrate your importance.... How you have an image of yourself that doesn't quite meet reality.... And by "quite meet" I mean not at all. I am sure more than people I hang around sees it too. It is worth a good laugh every time you post as a white knight though. I imagine that yes in your own mind you are a saint and a Pillar of the community. But every time I see you in game somewhere you seem to always be acting like a douche in one form or another.



List one thing rants worthy i've done....

I also don't post as a white knight I just don't hesitate to call out people for being hypocrites when I see it (chest).

You never seen me in game so keep reaching. Aren't you some new tmo member who was added to bolster their numbers?

[arsenalpow]

Also, that's my sweet erudite SK twink, Silkey Johnson

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3df8oksDI1r1k0jzo1_500.jpg

[Godefroi]

Why don't you cut the crap and pay BDA for the eye. You benefited from it. Make recompense for it. Don't try to spin it off as "Well I didn't know or I wouldn't have" and then later come back and say "See Chest really didn't care either". Don't tell someone to cut the crap when all you are typing in response is diatribe to support the actions of someone doing something wrong and you benefiting from it. Set an example and do the right thing that you always preach about.

It is funny watching you post though saying all the things people want to hear or you think they want to hear. But when an actual moral dilemma shows up to show your character your only reaction is to support the action that you benefited from by saying "See he didn't really care about it". If you are going to take a moral high ground in every other situation on these forums then do the morally correct thing and pay BDA for it. Don't try to blame it on FE/BDA drama as an excuse for why it happened. Make it right and show you have the character you preach.







We know that won't happen though =)

As agreed with Slydexx, he will get an eye back as soon as one is banked in FE, he can do what ever he wants with it. In this case, it would be gentle for him to give it back to BDA since they seem to care it became an epic, but didn't really care when it was rotting on someone who said he wasn't going to give it back.

I can see you are just skipping anything I said concerning TMO's history, but that's maybe 'cause you are a fresh member and don't know what they have done before, I shall forgive you.

[Godefroi]

You're an idiot. FE was formed because the BDA leadership had no interest in kowtowing to a small group of people within BDA that demanded we implement DKP and fight fire with fire against TMO. Those who supported the "hardcore" playstyle left and formed FE, and those who wished to remain committed to the BDA playstyle remained.

You can keep calling my rep into question and calling me names but that's not going to make anything you say true. As the red players would say my whistle is clean. Yours however is dirty as fuck. It you want to refund an eye of innoruuk to BDA you know where to find me you piece if shit.

Oh yeah, talking like that, you're clearly gonna get anything back you cunt lol.

I wonder why every single ex BDA who's in FE shit on your back then pal ;)

[Alarti0001]

FE is so Fucking Dirty.... after failing on Server Repops so often here is their new Strat:

Yesterday, 09:48 PM #18
Ploktor
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i would suggest if we have a full force of mains at trak and alts at VS (like this last repop), have everyone log in for trak and have 1 reasonable group (cleric, tank, fte monk, and a few more) log in at VS to try to snipe FTE. if that training nonsense happens like it did, its unlikely that VS will ever reset before dying, so if that one group gets FTE and puts up a reasonable showing (aka survives for more than 60 seconds) then we will likely will get awarded the loot.

[Alarti0001]

Oh yeah, talking like that, you're clearly gonna get anything back you cunt lol.

I wonder why every single ex BDA who's in FE shit on your back then pal ;)

So to summarize FE stole from BDA. Visc pitches a fit like a greedy fuck. BDA mad. Visc says of if you arent nice to me(a thief) you wont get anything back. LOL

[Signal]

List one thing rants worthy i've done....

I also don't post as a white knight I just don't hesitate to call out people for being hypocrites when I see it (chest).

You never seen me in game so keep reaching. Aren't you some new tmo member who was added to bolster their numbers?

Nope not in TMO... I know you would like to blame all your troubles on them but sorry people outside their guild even think you are a douche. Rest assured there have been 2 occasions where you have done things RNF worthy that I have witnessed. I would rather keep you in suspense and wondering though. Just know they happened in Solb and LGUK. You were on your Paladin both times if that helps ya recall. But I doubt it does I got from you the self entitlement vibe where you seem to not even notice yourself the level of douche you are. Which is further supported by how you post on these forums.

[maverixdamighty]

yes because one person posting something makes it our new strat....derp.

[Alawen]

I'm trying to understand what the hell's going on, but all I see is a bunch of idiots yapping off with little sense being thrown about.

- A player being a douchebag doesn't justify someone stealing from a guild bank.

- Personal quarrels aren't enough for you to paint an entire guild with the same brush.

- A "whatever then" response doesn't mean they don't care, it just means "whatever then."

- No amount of hate stones can pay for something like that. Secondly, if you need stone money, ask for stone money.

- Don't give guild bank access to d-bags.

Additionally, I think it's kind of funny seeing Alawen take the high road here. I say it's funny because he'll be the first one to ignore a wrongdoing provided it benefits him in the end.

Alawen, do let us know when you've actually got a conscience rather than bragging about how you've got such a conscience. Some of us date back a bit further than last week ;)

Cool, drop the dirt on me if you think you've got it. You're going to have a hell of a time finding anyone who will claim that I've ever cheated at anything or stolen from anyone. You have my open invitation to reveal anything you think you know about me. I think you've got nothing but vague conjecture because I've never played like that.

[getsome]

Just curious, if BDA had an Eye, could they complete a necro epic today?

[maverixdamighty]

Nope not in TMO... I know you would like to blame all your troubles on them but sorry people outside their guild even think you are a douche. Rest assured there have been 2 occasions where you have done things RNF worthy that I have witnessed. I would rather keep you in suspense and wondering though. Just know they happened in Solb and LGUK. You were on your Paladin both times if that helps ya recall. But I doubt it does I got from you the self entitlement vibe where you seem to not even notice yourself the level of douche you are. Which is further supported by how you post on these forums.

gotcha so you are an anon troll who can't back up anything you say, carry on. posting on forums is a great indicator of how people act in game btw...there are lots of tmo i go back/forth with on here that i talk to in game like any other person.

[Signal]

As agreed with Slydexx, he will get an eye back as soon as one is banked in FE, he can do what ever he wants with it. In this case, it would be gentle for him to give it back to BDA since they seem to care it became an epic, but didn't really care when it was rotting on someone who said he wasn't going to give it back.

I can see you are just skipping anything I said concerning TMO's history, but that's maybe 'cause you are a fresh member and don't know what they have done before, I shall forgive you.

Again you trying to lay this entirely at the feet of Slydexx is comical to say the least. You had a part in this transgression. You are the proud owner of the item that resulted from it. Trying to pass the responsibility solely to someone else doesn't work in this situation. You know the history of the item and what transpired. I imagine in all reality you knew beforehand as well and decided "who cares my epic rawr". Just goes to show the character you have honestly to try to pass blame off yourself which exists.

You guys really are freaking paranoid about TMO. I am not now... nor have I ever been....nor do I plan to ever be a member of TMO. Just someone calling you on your bullshit.

[Skope]

Cool, drop the dirt on me if you think you've got it. You're going to have a hell of a time finding anyone who will claim that I've ever cheated at anything or stolen from anyone. You have my open invitation to reveal anything you think you know about me. I think you've got nothing but vague conjecture because I've never played like that.

You were in IB and DA both, weren't you? Including the good ol' exploit days, no?

Secondly, I seem to recall you being pretty pissy about FE members on this forum being racist, but when Eccezan starts tossing the words 'gay' and 'fag' about, you had nothing to say other than to swallow your pride.

I get it, you want to seem like a good dude with solid character. Unfortunately, it's your history and past actions that determine that for you and no screaming from roof tops will change that.

[arsenalpow]

"Every single ex-BDA" ? - I'd like to call some character witnesses to the stand. The defense requests posts from Laboomer, Myuharin, Brut, Dragonfists, Kagok, Xerxes, Areyleun, and Fatty. These are all former BDA members that will vouch for my integrity. They may not agree with my personal stance on the current raid politics of p99 but they know I'm a stand up person. Hell, even Shinko and maybe even Sominus might toss in a backhanded compliment.

[Signal]

gotcha so you are an anon troll who can't back up anything you say, carry on. posting on forums is a great indicator of how people act in game btw...there are lots of tmo i go back/forth with on here that i talk to in game like any other person.

Yeah. I imagine that is the stance you would take and the view you would have of it. Self righteousness reigns free for you no doubt and this excuse you conjured up for me lets you keep denying the total douche you are while claiming otherwise. As I said before however... Play the game how you feel you should... Just don't be upset when people call you on your duplicity.

[maverixdamighty]

Yeah. I imagine that is the stance you would take and the view you would have of it. Self righteousness reigns free for you no doubt and this excuse you conjured up for me lets you keep denying the total douche you are while claiming otherwise. As I said before however... Play the game how you feel you should... Just don't be upset when people call you on your duplicity.

ya i imagine that would be the stance you would take when you hide as an anonymous troll and have nothing to provide. carry on troll.

[Signal]

ya i imagine that would be the stance you would take when you hide as an anonymous troll and have nothing to provide. carry on troll.

Oh if I wanted to troll you it would be simple. If I wanted to call you out it would be easier. To do both at the same time is fun though. Doesn't change the fact that I am telling the truth about you. Carry on with your inflated self image while the rest of us chuckle.

[Alawen]

You were in IB and DA both, weren't you? Including the good ol' exploit days, no?

Secondly, I seem to recall you being pretty pissy about FE members on this forum being racist, but when Eccezan starts tossing the words 'gay' and 'fag' about, you had nothing to say other than to swallow your pride.

I get it, you want to seem like a good dude with solid character. Unfortunately, it's your history and past actions that determine that for you and no screaming from roof tops will change that.

I was in IB very early on the server. I have two tracking classes, both on the same account, so I could switch quickly and track two zones at the same time. I've never had an IP exception. To the best of my knowledge, no one in IB at the time I was a member was engaged in anything except ruthless races to boss spawns. I refused to take part in the poopsock/FTE nonsense.

I quit DA the day that their officer (I can never remember his name) was exposed for using third party applications. It just wasn't acceptable to me at that level within the guild.

Hasbinbad tried to call me out on being situational about slurs and I responded that it's never okay. I don't like it when anyone does it. I made a thread specifically about that. I think slurs about race, gender, sexual orientation and identity are all wrong. Apparently you missed that?

So to be clear, you're admitting that you've got nothing and you just want to try to impeach my moral integrity because you don't like me and/or the guilds I was previously a member of, is that correct?

[maverixdamighty]

Oh if I wanted to troll you it would be simple. If I wanted to call you out it would be easier. To do both at the same time is fun though. Doesn't change the fact that I am telling the truth about you. Carry on with your inflated self image while the rest of us chuckle.

keep chuckling troll. anyone who doesn't have the balls to stand behind their forum name is doing so for a reason...

[arsenalpow]

Just curious, if BDA had an Eye, could they complete a necro epic today?

No, we lack biles. We have 2 other eyes banked as well. Our only bile we ever got turned into Shinko's epic which was well deserved.

[Godefroi]

Carry on with your inflated self image while the rest of us chuckle.

You seem to consider your opinion as a general truth.

In addition to being an anonymous troll, this isn't really helping you.

[radditsu]

"Every single ex-BDA" ? - I'd like to call some character witnesses to the stand. The defense requests posts from Laboomer, Myuharin, Brut, Dragonfists, Kagok, Xerxes, Areyleun, and Fatty. These are all former BDA members that will vouch for my integrity. They may not agree with my personal stance on the current raid politics of p99 but they know I'm a stand up person. Hell, even Shinko and maybe even Sominus might toss in a backhanded compliment.


Wheres the love?
:(

[kotton05]

BDA hated TMO, didn't really like FE, TMO spends more time on FE forums than most members, 1 member from FE has eye of inny that he MQs, said exBDA member claims it was his while others claim thief... All the while painting all of FE as evil thief's.. All of the Middle East are suicide bombers too!

And "failing" at repop? Lol alarti you need your eyes checked.

[Alarti0001]

You seem to consider your opinion as a general truth.

In addition to being an anonymous troll, this isn't really helping you.

Curious... you constantly support shades of gay and other FE sympathizing anon trolls. But, you attack this one who doesn't like you?

Sorta reminds me how you tell everyone TMO is bad.... and then do douchey things because TMO !!

[Signal]

keep chuckling troll. anyone who doesn't have the balls to stand behind their forum name is doing so for a reason...

Oh it is a total conspiracy I am hiding who I am for a reason... WTF who thinks like that besides self-serving douche-bags ? Honestly if you can't recall 2 occurrences in zones I pointed out then there is no doubt that you have either a very limited memory (which I don't know your concussion history and apologize if you suffer from memory loss) or these things happen to you often and you just think of them as "Normal activity". Which is fine if being a douche is your normal state of being... just don't get so worked up when someone mentions your Duplicity.

[Alarti0001]

BDA hated TMO, didn't really like FE, TMO spends more time on FE forums than most members, 1 member from FE has eye of inny that he MQs, said exBDA member claims it was his while others claim thief... All the while painting all of FE as evil thief's.. All of the Middle East are suicide bombers too!

And "failing" at repop? Lol alarti you need your eyes checked.

... Why do i need my eyes checked? You consistently wipe to trak when you race on a repop, you wiped to VS and then brought a giant train when TMO engaged (you meaning your guildmates not you specifically)
You lose CT every repop, spend hours in VP with no results other than delaying TMO raids.
Thats failing... maybe I just have much higher standards than you.

[maverixdamighty]

Oh it is a total conspiracy I am hiding who I am for a reason... WTF who thinks like that besides self-serving douche-bags ? Honestly if you can't recall 2 occurrences in zones I pointed out then there is no doubt that you have either a very limited memory (which I don't know your concussion history and apologize if you suffer from memory loss) or these things happen to you often and you just think of them as "Normal activity". Which is fine if being a douche is your normal state of being... just don't get so worked up when someone mentions your Duplicity.

confirmed troll. sorry i don't remember solb/lguk days on my paladin which would have been probably 2 years ago? I leveled a ton in solb no doubt about that. Lguk not so much...

Keep trolling, troll. Also how old are you? You like to throw around the word douche alot...

[arsenalpow]

Wheres the love?
:(

Well you don't play anymore I thought.

[Godefroi]

Curious... you constantly support shades of gay and other FE sympathizing anon trolls. But, you attack this one who doesn't like you?

Sorta reminds me how you tell everyone TMO is bad.... and then do douchey things because TMO !!

Shades isn't anynomous at all lol.

Hmmm, what douchey things are done because of TMO explain it to me mister meetic ?

[radditsu]

Well you don't play anymore I thought.

I still login like twice a week or so. And I'm still a huge forumquest warrior!



I see all kinds of ex bda members on the server I've been playing on. I even asked if you were gonna roll a character.

[Signal]

confirmed troll. sorry i don't remember solb/lguk days on my paladin which would have been probably 2 years ago? I leveled a ton in solb no doubt about that. Lguk not so much...

Keep trolling, troll. Also how old are you? You like to throw around the word douche alot...

Oh this wasn't 2 years ago. They occurred in the last couple of months. You weren't leveling up in either zone. Try not to attack verbiage while using the word troll. It just makes you look completely incompetent. Also resorting to the "You use douche so you must be young" defense is desperate. Actually use your mind and respond intelligently if it is at all possible.

[Captivate]

lol bluebies so mad about 1 part of necro epic....



yall done lost your minds


gg

[Rhambuk]

lol bluebies so mad about 1 part of necro epic....



yall done lost your minds


gg

too early for red i take it? pop must be around 11 12 people right now

[maverixdamighty]

Oh this wasn't 2 years ago. They occurred in the last couple of months. You weren't leveling up in either zone. Try not to attack verbiage while using the word troll. It just makes you look completely incompetent. Also resorting to the "You use douche so you must be young" defense is desperate. Actually use your mind and respond intelligently if it is at all possible.

anonymous troll is still anonymous and still a troll. only thing i use my paladin for is ragefire or helping people level while in solb and he hasn't been in lguk in the last several months so keep on posting BS, troll. Congrats on only using the word douche once in a post.

[Skope]

I was in IB very early on the server. I have two tracking classes, both on the same account, so I could switch quickly and track two zones at the same time. I've never had an IP exception. To the best of my knowledge, no one in IB at the time I was a member was engaged in anything except ruthless races to boss spawns. I refused to take part in the poopsock/FTE nonsense.

You poopsocked. So what? Not like that's something that bad as most of us have as well.

I quit DA the day that their officer (I can never remember his name) was exposed for using third party applications. It just wasn't acceptable to me at that level within the guild.

It wasn't just him and nor was it just DA.

I had good friends in both IB/DA. I've witnessed personally the trains, the /tells to trains (Wonton did this more than once in fear and on the way to sock naggy) as well as vent conversations -- I spent a few months on IBs vent in '10 thanks to one of your former members, and a good friend, that got dicked by an officer more than once.

Hasbinbad tried to call me out on being situational about slurs and I responded that it's never okay. I don't like it when anyone does it. I made a thread specifically about that. I think slurs about race, gender, sexual orientation and identity are all wrong. Apparently you missed that?

But not enough to strip him of officer status and /guildremove, right?

So to be clear, you're admitting that you've got nothing and you just want to try to impeach my moral integrity because you don't like me and/or the guilds I was previously a member of, is that correct?

I don't hate those guilds. In fact, I had good friends in both of them. What I dislike is your rather obvious hypocrisy. Because, at least according to you, it's important to point out that you didn't poopsock but it's also pivotal you don't point out the SEQ/MQ users and those who were banned for it that are, or up until last week(?) were guilded with you in TMO.

That's what it boils down to, really. That's my beef with you. You'll point out something insignificant and ignore the glaring inconsistency all the while doing your best to ignore it. Then you come here on the forums and try to take the high road.

It's bullshit.

[Signal]

BDA hated TMO, didn't really like FE, TMO spends more time on FE forums than most members, 1 member from FE has eye of inny that he MQs, said exBDA member claims it was his while others claim thief... All the while painting all of FE as evil thief's.. All of the Middle East are suicide bombers too!

And "failing" at repop? Lol alarti you need your eyes checked.


Oh trust me I don't think everyone in your guild is bad. All guilds have good and bad people in them. I do however think there is a very large amount of hypocrisy coming from a lot of directions in FE. I know I am not the only one that sees it too. Heck I imagine people in your own guild sees it.

[Signal]

anonymous troll is still anonymous and still a troll. only thing i use my paladin for is ragefire or helping people level while in solb and he hasn't been in lguk in the last several months so keep on posting BS, troll. Congrats on only using the word douche once in a post.


You were in LGUK in the last 2 months on your Paladin. Maybe you do have some form of memory loss going on. I am now truly concerned about your well being. Please see a doctor.

[quido]

Didn't FE say they'd give the next Eye they got to BDA? Isn't that good enough? About as good as you could ask for, imo.

[maverixdamighty]

You were in LGUK in the last 2 months on your Paladin. Maybe you do have some form of memory loss going on. I am now truly concerned about your well being. Please see a doctor.

what would i have been doing in lguk on my paladin in the last 2 months? last time i was in lguk i was at AM farming smr for a rogue friend and ended up giving two smr's away in zone when i got 3 in a row. clearly a douche move!

[Rhambuk]

Didn't FE say they'd give the next Eye they got to BDA? Isn't that good enough? About as good as you could ask for, imo.

Delete the epic and restore NO progress, even though the eye was the only ill gotten part.
Delete the character!
Disband the guild!
Reimburse BDA with an eye for each member, and an epic in each hand!

[Rhambuk]

Still too soon bro, quit for another year + then come back and see if everyone that remembes you has moved on, maybe then youll be able to lie and bolster yourself up to the new p99 crew

[47shadesofgay]

So FE says they are giving next Inny Eye to BDA.
BDA says they have 2 banked, and can't complete any epics.

What is wrong with you people

[Daldolma]

tldr-

slydexx steals eye, fe uses stolen eye

fe offers to reimburse eye to bda and/or slydexx, let them sort it out

misguided fe members defend theft of eye

chest really hates greed, really loves severely undergeared zerg force that gets him best in slot

[arsenalpow]

No one has offered to return an eye. Some FE members have stated that they'd like to see that happen but FE officers such as Unbrella have said "I'd give an eye to Tiggles before I appease Chest"

It's all hearsay and/or speculation until someone in FE with decision making powers contacts me or Sadad promising an eye, which at this rate seems highly unlikely.

[Rhambuk]

still foolish to be asking FE for the eye...ask slydexx to reimburse he cant get the eye he can give you some pp for it. Don't see how FE or visc owes bda anything.

You wonder why FE officers laugh in your face? Go after the guilty party and not whoever has the deepest pockets for fucks sake.

[arsenalpow]

still foolish to be asking FE for the eye...ask slydexx to reimburse he cant get the eye he can give you some pp for it. Don't see how FE or visc owes bda anything.

You wonder why FE officers laugh in your face? Go after the guilty party and not whoever has the deepest pockets for fucks sake.

Did you miss the part about FE leadership being complicit in the final decision? This wasn't Sly and that piece of shit Visceral acting alone, this was an agreement that Sly provides the eye to complete the epic and the next eye is to be placed in the FE guildbank.

[Rhambuk]

Did you miss the part about FE leadership being complicit in the final decision? This wasn't Sly and that piece of shit Visceral acting alone, this was an agreement that Sly provides the eye to complete the epic and the next eye is to be placed in the FE guildbank.

Sounds like FE's internal business that has NOTHING to do with bda...

[arsenalpow]

Sounds like FE's internal business that has NOTHING to do with bda...

Internal business that concerning a piece of stolen loot? How can you separate the two?

[maverixdamighty]

Did you miss the part about FE leadership being complicit in the final decision? This wasn't Sly and that piece of shit Visceral acting alone, this was an agreement that Sly provides the eye to complete the epic and the next eye is to be placed in the FE guildbank.

news to me but i guess you know more about FE than I do.

[Rhambuk]

Internal business that concerning a piece of stolen loot? How can you separate the two?

sake of argument, visceral or whoever leaves FE and joins...Guild 3405. Is bda going to stop chasing FE's bank and starting going after Guild 3405 for compensation?

[Daldolma]

No one has offered to return an eye. Some FE members have stated that they'd like to see that happen but FE officers such as Unbrella have said "I'd give an eye to Tiggles before I appease Chest"

It's all hearsay and/or speculation until someone in FE with decision making powers contacts me or Sadad promising an eye, which at this rate seems highly unlikely.

earlier in this thread, visceral says next eye will go to slydexx.

that's all fe has to do, at that point your beef is with slydexx

although if he doesn't return it, fe should boot him the way TMO should've booted alarti the scammer

[arsenalpow]

sake of argument, visceral or whoever leaves FE and joins...Guild 3405. Is bda going to stop chasing FE's bank and starting going after Guild 3405 for compensation?

No? The new guild's leadership had nothing to do with the decision. FE members Slydexx and that piece of shit Visceral acted in conjunction with FE leadership and determined that using stolen loot to complete a necro epic was kosher and the next eye was to be placed in the FE guildbank.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. How can any sane person think that FE was justified in acting this way?? It's STOLEN LOOT. Thou shalt not steal. This is a very basic concept.

[arsenalpow]

earlier in this thread, visceral says next eye will go to slydexx.

that's all fe has to do, at that point your beef is with slydexx

although if he doesn't return it, fe should boot him the way TMO should've booted alarti the scammer

And he doesn't have the power to make that decision for FE, it's bullshit until Shinko or Sloan tell me the very fucking next FE eye goes to BDA.

[maverixdamighty]

FE members Slydexx and that piece of shit Visceral acted in conjunction with FE leadership and determined that using stolen loot to complete a necro epic was kosher and the next eye was to be placed in the FE guildbank.


which FE leadership did so? Also slydexx had the loot and didn't feel it was stolen do you have anything to back up him just holding it until a necro needed? Perhaps with two already banked he thought it was his to keep? Again I have no idea what happened, but that seems to be his side that he felt it was his eye yet you and the rest of BDA say he was holding it in good faith.

[Rhambuk]

No? The new guild's leadership had nothing to do with the decision. FE members Slydexx and that piece of shit Visceral acted in conjunction with FE leadership and determined that using stolen loot to complete a necro epic was kosher and the next eye was to be placed in the FE guildbank.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. How can any sane person think that FE was justified in acting this way?? It's STOLEN LOOT. Thou shalt not steal. This is a very basic concept.

Justified? no definitely not and it is an extremely shady tactic but you keep going after them because they have it now, why dont you go after the guy that stole it in the first place? at least then hed be getting some sort of punishment, if fe gives you back the eye sly wins wins wins....

[Daldolma]

And he doesn't have the power to make that decision for FE, it's bullshit until Shinko or Sloan tell me the very fucking next FE eye goes to BDA.

sounds to me like you'd be best served addressing this with shinko/Sloan and linking to forum post where their newly appointed officer assures you the next eye will go to slydexx

or wait for them to contact you first about repaying a very valuable item, everyone loves debt collectors so i am sure you will be the first call after their morning triple skim latte

[arsenalpow]

which FE leadership did so? Also slydexx had the loot and didn't feel it was stolen do you have anything to back up him just holding it until a necro needed? Perhaps with two already banked he thought it was his to keep? Again I have no idea what happened, but that seems to be his side that he felt it was his eye yet you and the rest of BDA say he was holding it in good faith.

http://bregan.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8990480&gid=14897

http://i.imgur.com/YLtBZ.jpg

Grats Atrix, Froggie, and Doub on some god loot and grats the bank on 2 Inny eyes so maybe when we kill CT we can make some necros happy

One eye is still being held by Sanluen, the other was in Slydexx's possession. There was absolutely no confusion.

[maverixdamighty]

did rogean absolve fe of this debt? Just kidding. in all seriousness i hope this gets resolved for both sides.

[maverixdamighty]

http://bregan.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8990480&gid=14897



One eye is still being held by Sanluen, the other was in Slydexx's possession. There was absolutely no confusion.

fair enough.

[hatelore]

Everyone needs to reach down, grab there nuts, hold them for a minute then remember you are men. Do this three times a day so you don't forget. Gd, sounds like a bunch of woman up in here! Chingada Madre!

[radditsu]

Everyone needs to reach down, grab there nuts, hold them for a minute then remember you are men. Do this three times a day so you don't forget. Gd, sounds like a bunch of woman up in here! Chingada Madre!

NECRO epics matter bro.

[Godefroi]

And he doesn't have the power to make that decision for FE, it's bullshit until Shinko or Sloan tell me the very fucking next FE eye goes to BDA.

well maybe you should learn to act like a man and not some little pissed off pussy that rages everytime something doesnt go your way (like the raiding scene, for instance).

Insulting, raging and making yourself look like a fool doesn't help your cause.

Instand of believing I knowingly accepted stolen property you should perhaps should have come talk to FE officers about it instead of slacking, not giving a single fuck, saying "lol wtv" and then coming cry.

Go eat a nice, big, fat and juicy bag of dicks Chest ;)

[hatelore]

At this point I think we all need to agree that the sky is blue, dirt is usually brown and sometimes you just have to move on, say fuck it, and drive through. This poor horse is so bludgeoned , how the hell will he be recognized in horse heaven?

[getsome]

One eye is still being held by Sanluen, the other was in Slydexx's possession.

Why do you give the Eye of Innoruuk to your wizards and not your necromancers. Does BDA not have any active necros who deserve an epic piece?

[radditsu]

well maybe you should learn to act like a man and not some little pissed off pussy that rages everytime something doesnt go your way (like the raiding scene, for instance).

Insulting, raging and making yourself look like a fool doesn't help your cause.

Instand of believing I knowingly accepted stolen property you should perhaps should have come talk to FE officers about it instead of slacking, not giving a single fuck, saying "lol wtv" and then coming cry.

Go eat a nice, big, fat and juicy bag of dicks Chest ;)

oblig louis ck

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[kotton05]

... Why do i need my eyes checked? You consistently wipe to trak when you race on a repop, you wiped to VS and then brought a giant train when TMO engaged (you meaning your guildmates not you specifically)
You lose CT every repop, spend hours in VP with no results other than delaying TMO raids.
Thats failing... maybe I just have much higher standards than you.

ive seen you wipe to trak more than we have... with 100% clean engages so Idk what you're talking about.

[Godefroi]

FE had the last 4 traks in a row before TMO got the last 5 traks in a row, somehow it means something to Alarti.

He apparently sucks at both dating and maths.

[arsenalpow]

Why do you give the Eye of Innoruuk to your wizards and not your necromancers. Does BDA not have any active necros who deserve an epic piece?

We have necros that deserve them but most of the time our necros end up on bards or clerics during raid situations. We let wizards hold them until that time comes to use as a nice clicky/resist item.

[Tiggles]

FE is a dead guild

This last repop killed them

I hope before all is said and done GMs dismantle viscs epic to remind him that this server is not for thieving scumbags like him.

[arsenalpow]

well maybe you should learn to act like a man and not some little pissed off pussy that rages everytime something doesnt go your way (like the raiding scene, for instance).

Insulting, raging and making yourself look like a fool doesn't help your cause.

Instand of believing I knowingly accepted stolen property you should perhaps should have come talk to FE officers about it instead of slacking, not giving a single fuck, saying "lol wtv" and then coming cry.

Go eat a nice, big, fat and juicy bag of dicks Chest ;)

ITT: That piece of shit Visceral lectures me on the finer points of acting like a man after stealing from another guild and attempting to justify it.

[maverixdamighty]

ITT: That piece of shit Visceral lectures me on the finer points of acting like a man after stealing from another guild and attempting to justify it.

visceral didn't steal anything from your guild...

[kotton05]

FE is a dead guild

This last repop killed them

I hope before all is said and done GMs dismantle viscs epic to remind him that this server is not for thieving scumbags like him.

TMO confirmed scared of winter, why dismantle Visc's epic when the issue was brought to light after he already had it?

Tiggles n dicks inserts foot to mouf aginn

[Godefroi]

FE is a dead guild

This last repop killed them

I hope before all is said and done GMs dismantle viscs epic to remind him that this server is not for thieving scumbags like him.

You spit your propaganda so hard that you believe it yourself at the end of the day I guess :D

But it's ok fat joe, that's unfortunate what happened with the eye, I'm an innocent caught up in the usual bdrama.

On your side though, you received your epic from a GM and even took heat from Rogean for it. It's not like you can lecture anyone here, can you meatball ?

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

So, the obvious and glaring double standard here among those in FE is:

TMO has some members get banned/suspended for training and/or using 3rd parties--blame the guild

FE has a member hand over a stolen epic piece for an officer's epic--"Not our fault, bro. Blame the one guilty party. Don't paint with broad strokes!"

Holy shit at the ignorance. It doesn't matter that we don't have the final piece from CT. It's a stolen piece of loot that we earned and, like anyone else here would feel, want it back. I think a 12 year old could detect the tone in Chest's response to Sly when he said "lol, whatever then". To proclaim that this is Chest not giving a shit about his guild is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It's a clear grasp for straws to justify what you know was wrong.

Maybe we could Slydexx's input on the matter? I'm sure this is a grand conspiracy enacted by the government to rob the people of their freedom's. Government=bad. Thievery=cool as ice.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

visceral didn't steal anything from your guild...

"I totally thought BDA wanted to give this Eye to FE. I genuinely do." Your leadership signed off on the actions of Slydexx. FE is complicit in the theft after the fact.

[maverixdamighty]

So, the obvious and glaring double standard here among those in FE is:

TMO has some members get banned/suspended for training and/or using 3rd parties--blame the guild

FE has a member hand over a stolen epic piece for an officer's epic--"Not our fault, bro. Blame the one guilty party. Don't paint with broad strokes!"

Holy shit at the ignorance. It doesn't matter that we don't have the final piece from CT. It's a stolen piece of loot that we earned and, like anyone else here would feel, want it back. I think a 12 year old could detect the tone in Chest's response to Sly when he said "lol, whatever then". To proclaim that this is Chest not giving a shit about his guild is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It's a clear grasp for straws to justify what you know was wrong.

Maybe we could Slydexx's input on the matter? I'm sure this is a grand conspiracy enacted by the government to rob the people of their freedom's. Government=bad. Thievery=cool as ice.

If slydexx was informed he was holding the eye for bda's guild bank then it was wrong imo plain and simple. Multiple FE members have already said that. Visc also wasn't an officer at the time so not sure why you have to throw the officer thing into it.

Also as already mentioned slydexx was not under the impression he was holding it for the guildbank or atleast that's how it seemed to him. I saw the post chest provided and it says wizzies are holding eyes for necro until they are ready, but that doesn't tell me it was communicated to sly when he received the item or if it was even from that inny. If BDA was so concerned about the item why not ask for it right when sly left?

[maverixdamighty]

"I totally thought BDA wanted to give this Eye to FE. I genuinely do." Your leadership signed off on the actions of Slydexx. FE is complicit in the theft after the fact.

once again you guys keep throwing around fe's leadership signed off. Please elaborate on what leaders signed off....i asked chest already and he ignored it.

[Cecily]

So when's the one on San getting turned into an epic?

[Thana8088]

...I'm an innocent caught up in the usual bdrama.


Pure fucking gold lol

[Rhambuk]

Pure fucking gold lol

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

If slydexx was informed he was holding the eye for bda's guild bank then it was wrong imo plain and simple. Multiple FE members have already said that. Visc also wasn't an officer at the time so not sure why you have to throw the officer thing into it.

Also as already mentioned slydexx was not under the impression he was holding it for the guildbank or atleast that's how it seemed to him. I saw the post chest provided and it says wizzies are holding eyes for necro until they are ready, but that doesn't tell me it was communicated to sly when he received the item or if it was even from that inny. If BDA was so concerned about the item why not ask for it right when sly left?

I'm not aware of Visc's timeline as an officer. I just know he is now. I'm the one who handed Sly the eye and I distinctly remember telling him he could use it until we had a slime blood for a necro to complete their epic since it has INT/mana/MR/clicky on it.

Back when Sly FINALLY responded to Chest about the eye, I checked my logs for that tell that I sent him. I purge my logs about every 3 months and it was no longer in there. So, yes, Slydexx knew it was NOT HIS and it was, in fact, BDA's eye.

The leadership is complicit as it stands. So far, we've only heard Visc and Unbrella weigh in on the matter with conflicting resolutions (With Unbrella's being a middle finger). Maybe there's some form of backlash within FE's guild structure, but publicly there is no form of rectifying this; just branch grasping on the descent.

[Alarti0001]

ive seen you wipe to trak more than we have... with 100% clean engages so Idk what you're talking about.

Is this another statement like your recent "TMO hasnt killed Inny this month" where I linked 4 innky kills this month?"

Please... or maybe like that merkk spell fizzles spin.. when you knew all long it was discipline + DA?

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

So when's the one on San getting turned into an epic?

When we get a slime blood.

[Anichek]

NECRO epics matter bro.

While they may not be the best utility, nor anywhere close to the most impactful epic piece in the game (more like the least impactful or second least), they still are an epic.

It's not reasonable to say that "oh, it's a piece of crap necro epic, so who cares"- you know what, I care. In my 6 years on Live I never completed my epic- even after the Velious revamp when the loots became readily available. I was in a very small guild, so we didn't get a lot of shots at raiding by ourselves- we had to piggy back with larger guilds to get into the raid scene which we were okay with.

I don't think any of the main necros from BDA have piped up about this yet. As an officer in BDA, and a necro main, I think it sucks. Yeah, we have 2 Inny eyes in the bank. Slydexx knew that he was holding that Eye so it could be used instead of bank rot until Slime Blood is acquired.

I'm not one of the more vocal people in the server scene, but I like to believe that I have a good reputation and am generally well-liked by those whom I've interacted with.
I also may be taking liberties here, but I feel that my rep with the likes of Kagok, Xerxes, Fatty, Shinko, Areyleun, Laboomer, Brut, etc etc and yes even Slydexx is not tarnished. That being said, forget the "fuck you Chest"- think about the people who you DIDN'T have a problem with in the guild and how you just buddy-fucked them.

Slydexx- You didn't screw over Chest. You didn't screw over BDA. You buddy-fucked (at least) one person who respected you.

[Frogie305]

When we get a slime blood.


I need a Slimeblood On Dotjuu Sorry ;)

[Anichek]

So when's the one on San getting turned into an epic?

I'll guarantee you that we get Slime Blood, the one on San gets used to complete an epic for Ossomorte, Mortyss, or myself. It's completely a non-issue.

[maverixdamighty]

I'm not aware of Visc's timeline as an officer. I just know he is now. I'm the one who handed Sly the eye and I distinctly remember telling him he could use it until we had a slime blood for a necro to complete their epic since it has INT/mana/MR/clicky on it.

Back when Sly FINALLY responded to Chest about the eye, I checked my logs for that tell that I sent him. I purge my logs about every 3 months and it was no longer in there. So, yes, Slydexx knew it was NOT HIS and it was, in fact, BDA's eye.

The leadership is complicit as it stands. So far, we've only heard Visc and Unbrella weigh in on the matter with conflicting resolutions (With Unbrella's being a middle finger). Maybe there's some form of backlash within FE's guild structure, but publicly there is no form of rectifying this; just branch grasping on the descent.

so basically because visc has been made an officer since this happened FE's leadership is complicit...got it.

is BDA's leadership all complicit in poor handling of your guild bank then? The item should have been requested back immediately after Sly left, but it was almost a month later that it was requested back? Is that correct?

Again if sly was told what you said I think what happened was wrong, but his side of the story does not match up at all.

[radditsu]

I think as penance we should all let bda kill the first zlandicar.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4778

[Anichek]

If slydexx was informed he was holding the eye for bda's guild bank then it was wrong imo plain and simple. Multiple FE members have already said that. Visc also wasn't an officer at the time so not sure why you have to throw the officer thing into it.

Also as already mentioned slydexx was not under the impression he was holding it for the guildbank or atleast that's how it seemed to him. I saw the post chest provided and it says wizzies are holding eyes for necro until they are ready, but that doesn't tell me it was communicated to sly when he received the item or if it was even from that inny. If BDA was so concerned about the item why not ask for it right when sly left?

You mean when he slinked away in the dead of night?

Or when he didn't respond to multiple attempts by multiple people to a) discuss his departure, b) talk regarding loot he still had (Inny Eye), or c) avoided tells from people in BDA alltogether (for fuck's sake I just wanted to say hi to the guy, got ignored)

[Frogie305]

is BDA's leadership all complicit in poor handling of your guild bank then? The item should have been requested back immediately after Sly left, but it was almost a month later that it was requested back? Is that correct?

Again if sly was told what you said I think what happened was wrong, but his side of the story does not match up at all.


Mav if you ever have managed a Guild Bank you would know its not an easy task, If anything he should have returned that item knowing full well that it did not belong to him. But then again there are no wars and we live in a perfect society -_- LOL o wait..
Fuck you mav you piece of shit blah blah blah blah.. just kidding man <3..

[Tiggles]

Necro epics matter so much that FE invites a shit head (slydexx) that a large portion of the guild HATES just because he would epic one of their officers.


Remember FE members they would rather invite known trash players because it benefits officers.


This is why peaches/Multania is STILL guilded In FE because they don't have enough active clerics.

[maverixdamighty]

You mean when he slinked away in the dead of night?

Or when he didn't respond to multiple attempts by multiple people to a) discuss his departure, b) talk regarding loot he still had (Inny Eye), or c) avoided tells from people in BDA alltogether (for fuck's sake I just wanted to say hi to the guy, got ignored)

don't know the details of when/how he left, but it does seem the item wasn't requested back for almost a month after you guys knew he had left. i can't speak for him, but like i mentioned it seems he was under the impression the eye was his. there is conflicting information from bda leadership. I don't know who is right and who is wrong but people are calling visceral a thief when in fact he stole nothing.

[Alawen]

You poopsocked. So what? Not like that's something that bad as most of us have as well.



It wasn't just him and nor was it just DA.

I had good friends in both IB/DA. I've witnessed personally the trains, the /tells to trains (Wonton did this more than once in fear and on the way to sock naggy) as well as vent conversations -- I spent a few months on IBs vent in '10 thanks to one of your former members, and a good friend, that got dicked by an officer more than once.



But not enough to strip him of officer status and /guildremove, right?



I don't hate those guilds. In fact, I had good friends in both of them. What I dislike is your rather obvious hypocrisy. Because, at least according to you, it's important to point out that you didn't poopsock but it's also pivotal you don't point out the SEQ/MQ users and those who were banned for it that are, or up until last week(?) were guilded with you in TMO.

That's what it boils down to, really. That's my beef with you. You'll point out something insignificant and ignore the glaring inconsistency all the while doing your best to ignore it. Then you come here on the forums and try to take the high road.

It's bullshit.

I can't even follow your bullshit. Are you claiming that we talked about training people in IB vent? That's utter nonsense. Who would we even be training? We mobilized much faster than any other guild and the poopsocking hadn't yet begun.

Are you under the impression that I'm in TMO? That would be incorrect.

All I got out of your post is that you snuck into IB's vent, making you the guy lacking in moral conviction. You're desperately trying to connect me to someone else doing shady shit when in fact I have quit two guilds (DA and BDA) because of shady shit.

Not everyone is dirty, dirtbag. Enjoy wallowing in your filth and pretending everyone does it in order to justify it to yourself.

[maverixdamighty]

Mav if you ever have managed a Guild Bank you would know its not an easy task, If anything he should have returned that item knowing full well that it did not belong to him. But then again there are no wars and we live in a perfect society -_- LOL o wait..
Fuck you mav you piece of shit blah blah blah blah.. just kidding man <3..

let me guess i was a douche to you in solb/lguk on my paladin! fux!

i know it's not an easy task, but that's a high priority item i would think that any decent guild would be able to track down right away.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

so basically because visc has been made an officer since this happened FE's leadership is complicit...got it.

is BDA's leadership all complicit in poor handling of your guild bank then? The item should have been requested back immediately after Sly left, but it was almost a month later that it was requested back? Is that correct?

Again if sly was told what you said I think what happened was wrong, but his side of the story does not match up at all.

You're clearly retarded. I'll reword what I said: Where's the public address from Sloan, Shinko, Goodies, Talenos, and Hurley on the matter? Granted, I would expect extreme sarcasm from Hurley and a milder form from Shinko. I expect that, much like BDA expected Slydexx to be an honest person and hand over what was clearly stated as guild bank.

It's not a matter of poor handling. There was a lot of trust placed in Slydexx. He went out of his way to leave and not find any of us to hand it back. Even Ray Charles could see there was zero intent on giving it back. So, even asking for it would've just meant that he'd have started ignoring even earlier than he did.

Also, Sly's story doesn't match up because he's a lying, thieving piece of shit. Shinko even held onto and MQ'd a hand of Maestro that he picked up for guild bank with us once he was in FE.

All other points aside, the issue that anyone sees with this boils down as such: Slydexx took with him a banked item, didn't respond to us, used it to get FE an epic, and now FE sees BDA as in the wrong because we want our eye back. Hand an eye over and you're out nothing. It just blows my mind that people who likely would have a problem with stealing from their housemates have gone out of the way to justify not paying restitution for a theft.

[Rhambuk]

I can't even follow your bullshit. Are you claiming that we talked about training people in IB vent? That's utter nonsense. Who would we even be training? We mobilized much faster than any other guild and the poopsocking hadn't yet begun.



Kinsawt constantly dropping trains on our monk pullers in fear because earlier that day gm's decalred "trains out in the field of pulling happen and wont be punished" so ib assigned kinsawt to do nothing but train other guilds pullers that night.

Deny ignore claim you werent in the guild when it happened blahblahblah, but IB did train purposefuly using twisted gm words to get away with it.

[xarzzardorn]

so basically because visc has been made an officer since this happened FE's leadership is complicit...got it.


time heals all wounds i guess!

[maverixdamighty]

You're clearly retarded. I'll reword what I said: Where's the public address from Sloan, Shinko, Goodies, Talenos, and Hurley on the matter? Granted, I would expect extreme sarcasm from Hurley and a milder form from Shinko. I expect that, much like BDA expected Slydexx to be an honest person and hand over what was clearly stated as guild bank.

It's not a matter of poor handling. There was a lot of trust placed in Slydexx. He went out of his way to leave and not find any of us to hand it back. Even Ray Charles could see there was zero intent on giving it back. So, even asking for it would've just meant that he'd have started ignoring even earlier than he did.

Also, Sly's story doesn't match up because he's a lying, thieving piece of shit. Shinko even held onto and MQ'd a hand of Maestro that he picked up for guild bank with us once he was in FE.

All other points aside, the issue that anyone sees with this boils down as such: Slydexx took with him a banked item, didn't respond to us, used it to get FE an epic, and now FE sees BDA as in the wrong because we want our eye back. Hand an eye over and you're out nothing. It just blows my mind that people who likely would have a problem with stealing from their housemates have gone out of the way to justify not paying restitution for a theft.

No what you said was that FE's leadership was complicit in this, which is just a flat out lie by both you and chest (you even admit you didn't know when visceral became an officer which just makes you look even more ignorant). And you are calling other people retarded? Lol.

I hope you get your item back, but you and chest can both go F yourselves.

[maverixdamighty]

Here is a definition of the word you like to throw around yajirobe. Now again which members of FE's leadership were complicit? I'm sure they were all in a vent channel plotting about using BDA's eye to screw you guys over.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/complicit

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

No what you said was that FE's leadership was complicit in this, which is just a flat out lie by both you and chest (you even admit you didn't know when visceral became an officer which just makes you look even more ignorant). And you are calling other people retarded? Lol.

I hope you get your item back, but you and chest can both go F yourselves.

Visc didn't steal the eye, FE didn't steal the eye....but failing to acknowledge the obvious wrong and right said wrong is to be complicit in it. How's that so hard to understand?

[maverixdamighty]

Visc didn't steal the eye, FE didn't steal the eye....but failing to acknowledge the obvious wrong and right said wrong is to be complicit in it. How's that so hard to understand?

pretty sure we already said if sly was informed it was a guild bank item multiple FE members think it was wrong.

scroll back a few pages where Chest calls visceral a thief...

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

pretty sure we already said if sly was informed it was a guild bank item multiple FE members think it was wrong.

scroll back a few pages where Chest calls visceral a thief...

So, you're saying I'm complicit in Chest calling Visc a thief. Got it, more double standard. I'm just gonna place you on ignore with most of TMO. It's taken a few months, but FE you've shown your true colors. That whole thing of looking into the abyss and turning into it....true.

You're all so eat up with beating TMO that you've proven you're willing to step on everyone else in the server to do it. To beat TMO, one of your own has used a high value item (given for "free" or promise of later loot) so you had better stats to beat TMO.

[Godefroi]

Visc didn't steal the eye, FE didn't steal the eye....but failing to acknowledge the obvious wrong and right said wrong is to be complicit in it. How's that so hard to understand?

Well thank you !

It's pretty obvious we will probably give you an eye back knowing this now.

But Chest basically assaulting me without knowing shit about how it happened was just plain retarded. He ANY Bda member sent me a tell to tell me about it I would have given it back to slydexx and let you guys sort your business out.

Fact is, nobody said a word.

[kotton05]

Is this another statement like your recent "TMO hasnt killed Inny this month" where I linked 4 innky kills this month?"

Please... or maybe like that merkk spell fizzles spin.. when you knew all long it was discipline + DA?

i said before repops, selective hearing much? or do I have to get the DKP logs?

[maverixdamighty]

So, you're saying I'm complicit in Chest calling Visc a thief. Got it, more double standard. I'm just gonna place you on ignore with most of TMO. It's taken a few months, but FE you've shown your true colors. That whole thing of looking into the abyss and turning into it....true.

You're all so eat up with beating TMO that you've proven you're willing to step on everyone else in the server to do it. To beat TMO, one of your own has used a high value item (given for "free" or promise of later loot) so you had better stats to beat TMO.

didn't say anything about YOU calling visc a thief. I just said it was stated he was and he is not, but way to fail at reading comprehension.

again blaming FE for this just shows how stupid you are.

[Anichek]

don't know the details of when/how he left, but it does seem the item wasn't requested back for almost a month after you guys knew he had left. i can't speak for him, but like i mentioned it seems he was under the impression the eye was his. there is conflicting information from bda leadership. I don't know who is right and who is wrong but people are calling visceral a thief when in fact he stole nothing.

I personally have not mentioned Visceral in any of my posts and will continue to not be concerened with him.

The item was requested back less than a month after he left...or attempts to communicate that request were made. When you are being ignored via fake AFK's etc, being dodged, it's easy to say you "didn't hear from someone" until it was too late.

I don't see any conflicting information coming from BDA's leadership either.

Slydexx felt he was entitled to keep the Eye because of his contributions to BDA. BDA asked Slydexx to hold a guild-banked item and put it to use, because that's what you trust your officers to do for you in a guild. Slydexx knew full well that BDA didn't award an Eye to him as a raid loot/spoil for his toon.

I'll call bullshit on him explaining this in any other fashion...

[Alawen]

Kinsawt constantly dropping trains on our monk pullers in fear because earlier that day gm's decalred "trains out in the field of pulling happen and wont be punished" so ib assigned kinsawt to do nothing but train other guilds pullers that night.

Deny ignore claim you werent in the guild when it happened blahblahblah, but IB did train purposefuly using twisted gm words to get away with it.

I was never guilded with Kinsawt. Fuck off.

[maverixdamighty]

I personally have not mentioned Visceral in any of my posts and will continue to not be concerened with him.

The item was requested back less than a month after he left...or attempts to communicate that request were made. When you are being ignored via fake AFK's etc, being dodged, it's easy to say you "didn't hear from someone" until it was too late.

I don't see any conflicting information coming from BDA's leadership either.

Slydexx felt he was entitled to keep the Eye because of his contributions to BDA. BDA asked Slydexx to hold a guild-banked item and put it to use, because that's what you trust your officers to do for you in a guild. Slydexx knew full well that BDA didn't award an Eye to him as a raid loot/spoil for his toon.

I'll call bullshit on him explaining this in any other fashion...

If only your leaders could construct a post like this without name calling and ranting this issue would probably already be resolved.

[Rhambuk]

I was never guilded with Kinsawt. Fuck off.

I've gained some respect for kinsawt then.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Well thank you !

It's pretty obvious we will probably give you an eye back knowing this now.

But Chest basically assaulting me without knowing shit about how it happened was just plain retarded. He ANY Bda member sent me a tell to tell me about it I would have given it back to slydexx and let you guys sort your business out.

Fact is, nobody said a word.

Given the current state of affairs on P99, forgive me if I don't believe anything anyone says they will do until they do it. Chest is mad, and rightfully so. Too many people on the server feign ignorance to issues where they clearly benefit. BDA was unaware that Sly had given you our Eye until after the MQ was done. Sly waited to respond to us about it until you already had the epic done and even then, he failed to mention that the eye had been turned in. We learned from another source. If any of us knew, trust me, the officers would've been in tells with you.

It sucks to lose friends from the guild. It sucks even more to be fucked over by one.

[Godefroi]

Slydexx felt he was entitled to keep the Eye because of his contributions to BDA. BDA asked Slydexx to hold a guild-banked item and put it to use, because that's what you trust your officers to do for you in a guild. Slydexx knew full well that BDA didn't award an Eye to him as a raid loot/spoil for his toon.


Well that's what he told me.

Knowing he was an officer in BDA honestly there wasn't any reason for me to question his say, additionally to other ex BDA members backing him up concerning his contribution in BDA.

[getsome]

Kinsawt constantly dropping trains on our monk pullers in fear because earlier that day gm's decalred "trains out in the field of pulling happen and wont be punished" so ib assigned kinsawt to do nothing but train other guilds pullers that night.

Deny ignore claim you werent in the guild when it happened blahblahblah, but IB did train purposefuly using twisted gm words to get away with it.

I hope you realize Alawen and Kinsawt were never in IB at the same time. Sounds like your spewing bullshit.

Do you have some dates around this day you were in our vent? Lurker.

I remember the GMs making up new rules around the time of

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[maverixdamighty]

Given the current state of affairs on P99, forgive me if I don't believe anything anyone says they will do until they do it. Chest is mad, and rightfully so. Too many people on the server feign ignorance to issues where they clearly benefit. BDA was unaware that Sly had given you our Eye until after the MQ was done. Sly waited to respond to us about it until you already had the epic done and even then, he failed to mention that the eye had been turned in. We learned from another source. If any of us knew, trust me, the officers would've been in tells with you.

It sucks to lose friends from the guild. It sucks even more to be fucked over by one.

yet you guys are using it as a reason to attack FE...makes sense.

[Godefroi]

Given the current state of affairs on P99, forgive me if I don't believe anything anyone says they will do until they do it. Chest is mad, and rightfully so. Too many people on the server feign ignorance to issues where they clearly benefit. BDA was unaware that Sly had given you our Eye until after the MQ was done. Sly waited to respond to us about it until you already had the epic done and even then, he failed to mention that the eye had been turned in. We learned from another source. If any of us knew, trust me, the officers would've been in tells with you.

It sucks to lose friends from the guild. It sucks even more to be fucked over by one.

I fully understand, yet as your guild leader he could be a bit more civilized and educated, just saying.

[quido]

if only Chest wasn't such a tool, his life and the lives of those around him would be so much easier and better

[kotton05]

Given the current state of affairs on P99, forgive me if I don't believe anything anyone says they will do until they do it. Chest is mad, and rightfully so. Too many people on the server feign ignorance to issues where they clearly benefit. BDA was unaware that Sly had given you our Eye until after the MQ was done. Sly waited to respond to us about it until you already had the epic done and even then, he failed to mention that the eye had been turned in. We learned from another source. If any of us knew, trust me, the officers would've been in tells with you.

It sucks to lose friends from the guild. It sucks even more to be fucked over by one.

I learned of this issue awhile back in tells with chest, as I am not an officer or hold any real power can't do much on my end but hear him out, really sucks, who can ya trust? loyalty gets tested over pixels in EQ=-(

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

I personally have not mentioned Visceral in any of my posts and will continue to not be concerened with him.

The item was requested back less than a month after he left...or attempts to communicate that request were made. When you are being ignored via fake AFK's etc, being dodged, it's easy to say you "didn't hear from someone" until it was too late.

I don't see any conflicting information coming from BDA's leadership either.

Slydexx felt he was entitled to keep the Eye because of his contributions to BDA. BDA asked Slydexx to hold a guild-banked item and put it to use, because that's what you trust your officers to do for you in a guild. Slydexx knew full well that BDA didn't award an Eye to him as a raid loot/spoil for his toon.

I'll call bullshit on him explaining this in any other fashion...

QFT.

Slydexx was entitled to keep his BCG and Insignia Protector (tradeables) due to his contributions. We also clearly included him in our wizard epic turn in. The eye was different. To feel entitled to the epic piece of ANOTHER class is lunacy. That eye was earned on the efforts of BDA. Not FE.

[Anichek]

If only your leaders could construct a post like this without name calling and ranting this issue would probably already be resolved.

A simple post by any of the senior leadership in FE would probably stop the childishness and sparring match.....do you think we'll see it? I'm hopeful, eventually.

Note once again, I'm not calling out FE, calling Visc a thief, or doing anything other than saying that Slydexx's "story" is bullshit and I'll call him out on it. FE's lack of response from senior leadership is implied to be either a) direct support of Slydexx's actions regardless of the level of documentation showing that it was thievery, or b) a level of disregard for the action because they feel it will just all settle in the dust when something new fires up.

I am more inclined to think it's option "b".

[maverixdamighty]

A simple post by any of the senior leadership in FE would probably stop the childishness and sparring match.....do you think we'll see it? I'm hopeful, eventually.

Note once again, I'm not calling out FE, calling Visc a thief, or doing anything other than saying that Slydexx's "story" is bullshit and I'll call him out on it. FE's lack of response from senior leadership is implied to be either a) direct support of Slydexx's actions regardless of the level of documentation showing that it was thievery, or b) a level of disregard for the action because they feel it will just all settle in the dust when something new fires up.

I am more inclined to think it's option "b".

or you could handle it in game and not in the rants/flames section? Seems a lot more reasonable to me...

pop into FE's vent and talk to them. Shinko is not around much right now so sloan is probably your best bet to talk to.

[Yibz]

QFT.

Slydexx was entitled to keep his BCG and Insignia Protector (tradeables) due to his contributions. We also clearly included him in our wizard epic turn in. The eye was different. To feel entitled to the epic piece of ANOTHER class is lunacy. That eye was earned on the efforts of BDA. Not FE.

You let him keep the BCG he won in Taken? How noble.

[kotton05]

We'll just send slydexx to the north wall! He can shovel then start fires for the end of time!

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

You let him keep the BCG he won in Taken? How noble.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought he got that with us. I'm sure he did.

[radditsu]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2290

Looks like a wiz usable droppable item to me! Slydexx must be for realz using it on his offhand.

[kotton05]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2290

Looks like a wiz usable droppable item to me! Slydexx must be for realz using it on his offhand.

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/ninastupiid/default/keep-eye--large-msg-134650901651.jpg

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought he got that with us. I'm sure he did.

I may be wrong. /shrug.

[Anichek]

Well that's what he told me.

Knowing he was an officer in BDA honestly there wasn't any reason for me to question his say, additionally to other ex BDA members backing him up concerning his contribution in BDA.

Not once have I discounted all the work Sly put in during his tenure in BDA. He busted his ass in recruitment and HR issues.

Given the hard work that he did put in, it was even more surprising that he took a guild banked epic piece he was asked to hold and utilize until it could be awarded to a necro for turn in, and kept it for himself.

[kotton05]

Ani, did he already have it on his person? or did he log in a guild banker and take it? just curious

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Ani, did he already have it on his person? or did he log in a guild banker and take it? just curious

When it dropped, it was handed to him to use for the stats until we got a necro ready to use it. He left the guild with it in tow.

[Anichek]

Ani, did he already have it on his person? or did he log in a guild banker and take it? just curious

I'm not certain...it's my understanding that Slydexx was asked to loot and hold an Eye during the raid that Inny was dropped.

[arsenalpow]

How the fuck can you keep saying that FE leadership knew nothing? You think FE leadership handed over a slimeblood out of their guildbank without knowing where the eye was coming from that was needed to finish that piece of shit Visceral's epic? Leadership that came from BDA and absolutely knew our policies concerning epic loot. How the fuck else would Sly come across an eye of innoruuk except from BDA's guildbank? You're either naive or retarded, you pick.

Also, if I wasn't posting about it nothing would obviously be done about it. This bullshit needed to be exposed. It sickens me that people are actually trying to blame BDA or justify it. You want to fix it? Here's how:

1) Sincerely apologize for allowing stolen loot to be used in the completion of a necro epic.

2) Have FE leadership publically earmark the next Eye of Innoruuk as repayment to BDA.

So far you've done neither. Instead you've tried to justify your actions and attack me and my guild for exposing your high grade bullshit. Man the fuck up, apologize, and make it right. Stop being a bitch and making excuses and justifications for your despicable behavior.

[getsome]

[QUOTE=Anichek;933921]A simple post by any of the senior leadership in FE would probably stop the childishness and sparring match.....QUOTE]

Why would the leadership of a guild want to use RNF to post anything.

Normally if I had an issue or need to resolve a problem, I would send a tell in game or at times PM or emails.

But RNF, no way, nothing worthy of common sense will ever prevail here.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

I'm not certain...it's my understanding that Slydexx was asked to loot and hold an Eye during the raid that Inny was dropped.

I physically took the eye and traded it to him, with tells letting him know that it was just being used for stats until a necro was ready.

[Alarti0001]

i said before repops, selective hearing much? or do I have to get the DKP logs?

Actually you said "you havn't seen an inny in months until this recent server repop "

this recent server repop, obviously a singular statement.

Scope drift much?

[Anichek]

or you could handle it in game and not in the rants/flames section? Seems a lot more reasonable to me...

pop into FE's vent and talk to them. Shinko is not around much right now so sloan is probably your best bet to talk to.

It went to RnF after attempts were made to contact in-game by multiple people over a few weeks timeframe, after visits were made to FE's vent to try and get him on the line, and former BDA members who are now in FE popping over to BDA's vent to try and grease the wheel too.

[getsome]

I physically took the eye and traded it to him, with tells letting him know that it was just being used for stats until a necro was ready.

I guess Sly decided that Necro was Visceral :p

[maverixdamighty]

How the fuck can you keep saying that FE leadership knew nothing? You think FE leadership handed over a slimeblood out of their guildbank without knowing where the eye was coming from that was needed to finish that piece of shit Visceral's epic? Leadership that came from BDA and absolutely knew our policies concerning epic loot. How the fuck else would Sly come across an eye of innoruuk except from BDA's guildbank? You're either naive or retarded, you pick.

Also, if I wasn't posting about it nothing would obviously be done about it. This bullshit needed to be exposed. It sickens me that people are actually trying to blame BDA or justify it. You want to fix it? Here's how:

1) Sincerely apologize for allowing stolen loot to be used in the completion of a necro epic.

2) Have FE leadership publically earmark the next Eye of Innoruuk as repayment to BDA.

So far you've done neither. Instead you've tried to justify your actions and attack me and my guild for exposing your high grade bullshit. Man the fuck up, apologize, and make it right. Stop being a bitch and making excuses and justifications for your despicable behavior.

how can you keep saying FE's leadership was complicit without having a clue? It's already been established that the people involved in the MQ did not feel it was a "stolen" item and afaik visc already had the slime blood on his character, so it didn't require going to leadership to get it.

How about you act like a leader and quit being a little bitch on the forums and hop in vent and talk to sloan or shinko when he's on?

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

I guess Sly decided that Necro was Visceral :p


It would seem so.

[maverixdamighty]

It went to RnF after attempts were made to contact in-game by multiple people over a few weeks timeframe, after visits were made to FE's vent to try and get him on the line, and former BDA members who are now in FE popping over to BDA's vent to try and grease the wheel too.

the logs show chest just reached out last week in regards to the eye, and it was after they found out it was given to visc...

[arsenalpow]

No, the logs show when sly finally responded to me after over a week of trying to get in contact with him through every means but carrier pigeon

[maverixdamighty]

No, the logs show when sly finally responded to me after over a week of trying to get in contact with him through every means but carrier pigeon

so care to retract your comments about visceral going to leadership to get the slime blood? Confirmed visceral looted slime blood from a CT kill and had it on his own character. I guess he stole that too in your book.

[Godefroi]

How the fuck can you keep saying that FE leadership knew nothing? You think FE leadership handed over a slimeblood out of their guildbank without knowing where the eye was coming from that was needed to finish that piece of shit Visceral's epic? Leadership that came from BDA and absolutely knew our policies concerning epic loot. How the fuck else would Sly come across an eye of innoruuk except from BDA's guildbank? You're either naive or retarded, you pick.

Also, if I wasn't posting about it nothing would obviously be done about it. This bullshit needed to be exposed. It sickens me that people are actually trying to blame BDA or justify it. You want to fix it? Here's how:

1) Sincerely apologize for allowing stolen loot to be used in the completion of a necro epic.

2) Have FE leadership publically earmark the next Eye of Innoruuk as repayment to BDA.

So far you've done neither. Instead you've tried to justify your actions and attack me and my guild for exposing your high grade bullshit. Man the fuck up, apologize, and make it right. Stop being a bitch and making excuses and justifications for your despicable behavior.

You're a so fucking mistaken.

I looted the bile myself off CT you moran, Sloan took it back and gave it right back to me in fear as it was awarded to me.

Keep making shit up dumbo

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

No, the logs show when sly finally responded to me after over a week of trying to get in contact with him through every means but carrier pigeon

I remember Kagok popping in vent to try to connect your two. Then, Sly wasn't even online when he was purported to have been. Fast forward about 3 or 4 hours when he sent me a tell. He then went on to give us the middle finger.

[Hasbinbad]

This is some fucked up shit.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

[Anichek]

Why would the leadership of a guild want to use RNF to post anything.

Normally if I had an issue or need to resolve a problem, I would send a tell in game or at times PM or emails.

But RNF, no way, nothing worthy of common sense will ever prevail here.

I tell you what, if Sly would have ever answered my tells while on any of his toons, I would have been able to talk to him about this before it was ever MQ'd. But when you dodge communication, you dodge accountability.

I can't disagree with the logic of trying to actually achieve something tangible or in-hand by a RnF thread. But it is the forum to bring things to light and if nothing else, my dear former chap Slydexx who I spent many a late late night camping mobs with and bullshitting will at least be a known commodity what he's brokering- theft and untruths.

Slydexx, Areyleun, and Fattyfatty are the three recent departures I was the most close with. I know Fatty is an RnF guy once in a while- wonder what his thoughts are on this too....

[Godefroi]

Actually you said "you havn't seen an inny in months until this recent server repop "

this recent server repop, obviously a singular statement.

Scope drift much?

Who got the one that popped before repop on 04/19

k thx bai marikita

[cs616]

How about you act like a leader and quit being a little bitch on the forums and hop in vent and talk to sloan or shinko when he's on?

Because he'd rather publicly play the victim in an effort to cause drama and discredit the guild that was formed due to his ineptitude as a leader.

[falkun]

No Mav, the only log that has been posted shows that Slydexx denied telling Chest the eye was already turned in when pressed about it. Chest commented that other tells were sent and voice chat interaction was ignored, but no logs of either have been posted. With as much as Chest /logs, I'm sure he can dig those up for you since you seem to be asking for them. You're desire for proof here is bordering on Alarti.

[maverixdamighty]

I tell you what, if Sly would have ever answered my tells while on any of his toons, I would have been able to talk to him about this before it was ever MQ'd. But when you dodge communication, you dodge accountability.

I can't disagree with the logic of trying to actually achieve something tangible or in-hand by a RnF thread. But it is the forum to bring things to light and if nothing else, my dear former chap Slydexx who I spent many a late late night camping mobs with and bullshitting will at least be a known commodity what he's brokering- theft and untruths.

Slydexx, Areyleun, and Fattyfatty are the three recent departures I was the most close with. I know Fatty is an RnF guy once in a while- wonder what his thoughts are on this too....

so when sly was supposedly giving you guys the cold shoulder no one thought to try talking to our officers at that time? If you were so adamant he was stealing from you guys I would think someone would mention that to us while he was an applicant...

[maverixdamighty]

No Mav, the only log that has been posted shows that Slydexx denied telling Chest the eye was already turned in when pressed about it. Chest commented that other tells were sent and voice chat interaction was ignored, but no logs of either have been posted. With as much as Chest /logs, I'm sure he can dig those up for you since you seem to be asking for them. You're desire for proof here is bordering on Alarti.

falkun it's because chest has repeatedly posted complete bullshit here. calls visceral a thief, says FE leadership is complicit in the act, elaborates and says they were complicit because they gave visc his slime blood knowing he was receiving a stolen eye, etc etc etc.

FACT VISCERAL ALREADY HAD THE SLIME BLOOD PRIOR TO GETTING THE EYE.

If chest is gonna come here and cries up a storm while posting lies to try to make FE look bad i'm going to call him out on it. He isn't acting like a leader he's acting like a toddler that just lost his candy.

[Hasbinbad]

STEP BACK HOLY SHIT AHHA

[Alawen]

In many countries, if an individual has accepted possession of goods or property and knew they were stolen, then the individual is typically charged with a misdemeanor or felony, depending on the value of the stolen goods.

Possession of stolen goods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods)

It's important to realize that there is no conflict in believing both that Visceral is a piece of shit and that Chest is a cry baby. These two facts are not mutually exclusive.

[Furniture]

I said it once and I'll say it again, godefroi/visceral is the biggest bitch on the server, him and fe were jokes from the beginning, I'm glad most people realize that now

[falkun]

falkun it's because chest has repeatedly posted complete bullshit here. calls visceral a thief, says FE leadership is complicit in the act, elaborates and says they were complicit because they gave visc his slime blood knowing he was receiving a stolen eye, etc etc etc.

FACT VISCERAL ALREADY HAD THE SLIME BLOOD PRIOR TO GETTING THE EYE.

If chest is gonna come here and cries up a storm while posting lies to try to make FE look bad i'm going to call him out on it. He isn't acting like a leader he's acting like a toddler that just lost his candy.

I can see both sides about the slime blood, I even believe Visc and Sloan's account of it. So yes, Chest is wrong in that department. But Slydexx actively dodged attempts to retrieve the eye from him, you keep attempting to ignore/refute this. Then you blame Chest/BDA leadership for mismanaging the guild bank. That is not the case, its a case of a single asshole screwing things up for everyone. Slydexx steals from BDA and then diminishes FE's reputation by using said stolen item.

[Anichek]

so when sly was supposedly giving you guys the cold shoulder no one thought to try talking to our officers at that time? If you were so adamant he was stealing from you guys I would think someone would mention that to us while he was an applicant...

I'll continue to reiterate, as both Yaji and Chest have in here, that conversations and attempts to contact Slydexx where made. I can't comment on what other steps were taken by Chest or other senior leadership in BDA.

I also was not yet an officer when Slydexx left- so I didn't reach out to another guild with inquiry as I had trust in Slydexx and figured that we'd connect, I'd remind him he needs to return the Eye to be an honest guy, and had no other inclination to believe he would have done anything other than that because I did not know Slydexx as a greedy person. The guy was a supporter, a guild guy, and in my exposure had no issues being fair and reasonable.

This is far enough out of character that it left-hooked many of us. Perhaps that's why it wasn't an escalated thing, because we all know Sly's style of play often involves some decent AFK's...or maybe that they were getting ready to get back to work and his playtime was limited (I'm not going to comment on his RL stuff, but the seasons have impact on his availability, and this is the time of the season where he gets busy).

[Hasbinbad]

In many countries, if an individual has accepted possession of goods or property and knew they were stolen, then the individual is typically charged with a misdemeanor or felony, depending on the value of the stolen goods.

Possession of stolen goods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods)

It's important to realize that there is no conflict in believing both that Visceral is a piece of shit and that Chest is a cry baby. These two facts are not mutually exclusive.
How are you and I the least vagrant people in this conversation?

What has p99 come to?

[maverixdamighty]

I can see both sides about the slime blood, I even believe Visc and Sloan's account of it. So yes, Chest is wrong in that department. But Slydexx actively dodged attempts to retrieve the eye from him, you keep attempting to ignore/refute this. Then you blame Chest/BDA leadership for mismanaging the guild bank. That is not the case, its a case of a single asshole screwing things up for everyone. Slydexx steals from BDA and then diminishes FE's reputation by using said stolen item.

i can't refute or confirm any attempts to contact sly that was between bda members/leadership and him.

I merely posted that as an example of how stupid their argument that FE's leadership was complicit in the act, it wasn't serious...but it was curious that it took so long to reach out for it.

Regardless BDA leadership took it as a reason to come on here and flame FE as a whole, which shows their true colors. You said it yourself it is a BDA/Slydexx issue. Treat it as such.

[arsenalpow]

Y'all are fucking ridiculous. Arguing goddamn semantics and screaming prove it over every little detail. Calling me a crybaby because the truth got exposed. Spin and deflect harder.

[maverixdamighty]

Y'all are fucking ridiculous. Arguing goddamn semantics and screaming prove it over every little detail. Calling me a crybaby because the truth got exposed. Spin and deflect harder.

Be a leader and take it to tells in game or in vent. Quit posting lies and looking like a bitch.

[radditsu]

How are you and I the least vagrant people in this conversation?

What has p99 come to?

Shh. Shutup and keep agitating the hell out of this bear.

[Alawen]

How are you and I the least vagrant people in this conversation?

What has p99 come to?

It makes me feel sort of inadequate and a little dirty. I got a little distracted by Divinity members attacking me for snickering at the mud-slinging. What the hell was that about?

I am confident, though, that when the dust settles, we'll return to normal where every time I post anything, multiple members of BDA rush to say something about hierophant cloaks.

[cs616]

Y'all are fucking ridiculous. Arguing goddamn semantics and screaming prove it over every little detail. Calling me a crybaby because the truth got exposed. Spin and deflect harder.

Maybe people are calling you a crybaby because you came here spewing vitriol about an entire guild over something most of us knew nothing about and before even trying to contact that guild's leadership to resolve the issue. I know I wouldn't have made a post in this thread or the other thread had you not made unfounded and unsupported claims about FE's role in this whole ordeal. Take a look at my posting history if you don't believe me, I almost never post in RnF. Your approach to conflict resolution makes me wonder how you ever managed to keep the former BDA members who left for FE as long as you did. The only thing you've exposed here is how your horrendous manner in handling this situation has even the most reasonable FE members wary about giving you anything. Hell, I say we offer BDA our next two Eyes if they reform without Chest as a leader. Might I suggest Anichek? He's seemed pretty reasonable throughout this whole ordeal.

[Hasbinbad]

It makes me feel sort of inadequate and a little dirty. I got a little distracted by Divinity members attacking me for snickering at the mud-slinging. What the hell was that about?

I am confident, though, that when the dust settles, we'll return to normal where every time I post anything, multiple members of BDA rush to say something about hierophant cloaks.
I feel a bit like an old Sicilian "casino-owner" bitching about inner city gang violence.

[getsome]

Better cloaks than mistwalkers.

Hbb do I possess stolen goods ?

[47shadesofgay]

You guys stil arguing about a stolen Inny Eye? LOL

[Hasbinbad]

Can we stop the charade that members of guilds act independently of their guilds? Any guild condones the actions of any member that stays a member de facto.

[Alawen]

The mistwalker didn't come up until I was already really pissed off.

I think you stole that fishing pole from your previous guild.

[falkun]

You said it yourself it is a BDA/Slydexx issue. Treat it as such.
And the response to this has already been given: Slydexx was contacted, slydexx ignored them. The only recourse left is a public shaming. It is FE's choice to get caught in the Slydexx mix. There are a multitude of solutions BDA has proposed to remedy the issue, FE and Slydexx are ignoring them.

[Hasbinbad]

Better cloaks than mistwalkers.

Hbb do I possess stolen goods ?
No. When I stopped playing as much, I gave the legs back to the guild. So, no, you didn't steal them. But I gave them back with the understanding that they would be awarded to someone other than your EC tunnel alt, which didn't happen, and I would appreciate it very much if you would give them back to me. I put in a lot of time and effort for late generation IB when I had very little to gain.

[radditsu]

And the response to this has already been given: Slydexx was contacted, slydexx ignored them. The only recourse left is a public shaming. It is FE's choice to get caught in the Slydexx mix. There are a multitude of solutions BDA has proposed to remedy the issue, FE and Slydexx are ignoring them.

You and me both know that shinko can't type

[getsome]

I disagree. If I agreed with that mentality you would have been booted.

[Hasbinbad]

I disagree. If I agreed with that mentality you would have been booted.
That's kind of why I said "de facto."

[maverixdamighty]

And the response to this has already been given: Slydexx was contacted, slydexx ignored them. The only recourse left is a public shaming. It is FE's choice to get caught in the Slydexx mix. There are a multitude of solutions BDA has proposed to remedy the issue, FE and Slydexx are ignoring them.

come on man lol. proposal on a rants forum? Really? All the while your leadership (not all but the most vocal 2) has come on here saying FE's leadership was complicit in the whole theft of the item based off of bullshit chest made up? I honestly wouldn't blame them for not responding on here if they have even seen this. Again tell that cry baby bitch chest to take it up in game or in vent to get it resolved.

[getsome]

The mistwalker didn't come up until I was already really pissed off.

I think you stole that fishing pole from your previous guild.

I gave back all my gear to my old guild prior to apping ib. Thats why i was basically naked in fear one blue into 46 during my first raid. They let me keep the fishing pole as long as I promised to pass it back when I improved my main hand.

[OMGWTF420]

how the fuck is anyone in FE defending this blatant thievery?? ignorance is bliss i suppose

[47shadesofgay]

No. When I stopped playing as much, I gave the legs back to the guild. So, no, you didn't steal them. But I gave them back with the understanding that they would be awarded to someone other than your EC tunnel alt, which didn't happen, and I would appreciate it very much if you would give them back to me. I put in a lot of time and effort for late generation IB when I had very little to gain.

I don't mean to be argumentative or call you a liar or anything, and I hope you get your legs back.. but saying you did a lot for late generation IB is a bit of a stretch.. You basically stopped playing in August when TMO showed up and you had virtually no tracking hours.

In fact most people thought you made us look stupid because of the amount of RnF trolling you did and the way you acted like you mattered because you were "old school" or whatever.

Again, not trying to be argumentative, but that's just the way it was.

[Alawen]

Can we stop the charade that members of guilds act independently of their guilds? Any guild condones the actions of any member that stays a member de facto.

That hasn't really seemed to apply on P99. Every guild has had cheaters and somehow just accepts their cheating shit. Then again, I didn't know how to spot cheaters on live. I did wonder, though, how people beat me to raids when I had a black ornate chain bridle.

I vaguely remember IB booting a couple of people when Otto outed them for two boxing, but since then it seems like anything goes. This is particularly baffling to me in the instance of absolutely terrible players like Multania who actually detract from the effectiveness of any raid force.

[cs616]

And the response to this has already been given: Slydexx was contacted, slydexx ignored them. The only recourse left is a public shaming. It is FE's choice to get caught in the Slydexx mix. There are a multitude of solutions BDA has proposed to remedy the issue, FE and Slydexx are ignoring them.

Deajay, I have always thought and still do think that you're a legit guy, but this drama isn't simply a result of FE ignoring BDA's solutions. Chest came here and public shamed FE, not Slydexx. He straight made up aspects of the story (e.g. FE leadership complicit because they gave Visc and item he already had). He came here to start drama and he has succeeded. A byproduct of that drama is the fact that no one in FE is really inclined to work towards a reasonable solution with someone who called us thieving pieces of shit before even trying to contact our leadership to resolve the issue (Slydexx is not leadership). The first time I heard the Eye Visc used was taken from BDA was when I read it here on the RnF, and I'd imagine there are others in the same boat.

Basically, if this is a BDA/Slydexx issue, why is chest shaming FE? If this is a BDA/FE issue, why didn't Chest contact FE's leadership?

[Alawen]

I disagree. If I agreed with that mentality you would have been booted.

Did Hasbinbad actually ever do anything you thought was inappropriate, or was it just the shit he said? I can't think of any instance where he did anything in game that was unacceptable. He just pisses people off with the stuff he says.

[getsome]

That's kind of why I said "de facto."

Oops. Reading comprehension fail.

I think I tried to give them to shiftin. But he did not want em. Usually only had dupes of crap on my tunnel mules. I just would hate to break up the set. Can't you join fe or tmo to get a pair?

[47shadesofgay]

HBB pisses off everybody but Karsten I think. EVERYBODY.

[47shadesofgay]

His Voice.. it has seered my mind... good lord his voice :(

[Hasbinbad]

I just would hate to break up the set. Can't you join fe or tmo to get a pair?
No. TMO would let me app and then find a reason to kick to me just to say that they did, and I tried FE but that lasted like 2 weeks before Shinko and I got into it.

[47shadesofgay]

HBB pisses off everybody but Karsten I think. EVERYBODY.

[47shadesofgay]

What is Karsten up to these days?

[Hasbinbad]

Women love me, men hate me.

C'est la vie!

[Alawen]

What is Karsten up to these days?

I haven't seen anything from him since he was trying to sell his paladin almost a year ago. Whatever he's doing, I have no doubt that involves either a lot of liquor or AA and an untiringly cheerful disposition.

[getsome]

Did Hasbinbad actually ever do anything you thought was inappropriate, or was it just the shit he said? I can't think of any instance where he did anything in game that was unacceptable. He just pisses people off with the stuff he says.

Hbb as a rogue was among the best. Always aware. Always thinking ahead. Always had his deeps at the top of the charts.

In guild chat or groups he was ok. A few times I had to intervene to make peace.

On forums. You all don't need my opinion.

[Hasbinbad]

lulz

[Hasbinbad]

Hbb as a rogue was among the best. Always aware. Always thinking ahead. Always had his deeps at the top of the charts.

In guild chat or groups he was ok. A few times I had to intervene to make peace.

On forums. You all don't need my opinion.
This made my day. :D

[falkun]

@Mav & CS: I don't know why Chest did not contact FE leadership first, but I also cannot claim that Chest did not contact FE leadership before bringing it to RNF. As for FE's general members finding out through RNF, that's between FE's members and FE's leadership. BDA is not responsible for what FE officers tell FE's rank and file. This whole situation is a giant cluster-fuck, initiated by Slydexx. I can fully understand your viewpoint(s) that Chest handled this incorrectly, so fuck BDA. I doubt it will look good for FE, but FE is free to respond however they're inclined.

Hopefully Slydexx is not able to pull the same shenanigans on FE. Good luck with him, he's your problem now.

[Alawen]

This made my day. :D

You were always a top notch player, that's why I asked the question. If you could just shut up, you could be in any guild you chose.

Sure glad I'm not like that!

[Hasbinbad]

@Mav & CS: I don't know why Chest did not contact FE leadership first, but I also cannot claim that Chest did not contact FE leadership before bringing it to RNF. As for FE's general members finding out through RNF, that's between FE's members and FE's leadership. BDA is not responsible for what FE officers tell FE's rank and file. This whole situation is a giant cluster-fuck, initiated by Slydexx. I can fully understand your viewpoint(s) that Chest handled this incorrectly, so fuck BDA. I doubt it will look good for FE, but FE is free to respond however they're inclined.

Hopefully Slydexx is not able to pull the same shenanigans on FE. Good luck with him, he's your problem now.
Sry this thread is now about how I'm a great rogue, a decent if somewhat raucous group/guildmate, and a bad forum poster.

[Hasbinbad]

You were always a top notch player, that's why I asked the question. If you could just shut up, you could be in any guild you chose.

Sure glad I'm not like that!
LOL

[falkun]

Sry this thread is now about how I'm a great rogue, a decent if somewhat raucous group/guildmate, and a bad forum poster.

But RNF likes *NEW* material.

[Autotune]

Hbb as a rogue was among the best. Always aware. Always thinking ahead. Always had his deeps at the top of the charts.

In guild chat or groups he was ok. A few times I had to intervene to make peace.

On forums. You all don't need my opinion.

among the best, but not close enough to the best.

You can suck balls and hang out with some pretty awesome people hoping someone throws a stray comment your way and a girl gives you a hand job in the basement out of pity cause all her other girlfriends got snatched up by the real killers.

[maverixdamighty]

@Mav & CS: I don't know why Chest did not contact FE leadership first, but I also cannot claim that Chest did not contact FE leadership before bringing it to RNF. As for FE's general members finding out through RNF, that's between FE's members and FE's leadership. BDA is not responsible for what FE officers tell FE's rank and file. This whole situation is a giant cluster-fuck, initiated by Slydexx. I can fully understand your viewpoint(s) that Chest handled this incorrectly, so fuck BDA. I doubt it will look good for FE, but FE is free to respond however they're inclined.

Hopefully Slydexx is not able to pull the same shenanigans on FE. Good luck with him, he's your problem now.

that's the point there was nothing to tell FE members as they were not "complicit" in it. yet the very first post by chest in the visceral epic poll was him blasting FE leadership and making up bullshit.

Regardless, once again, I hope we get you an eye back and hopefully it goes to a necro this time. I don't take a fuck BDA perspective, I take a fuck chest the whiny hypocritical piece of shit perspective.

[Hasbinbad]

among the best, but not close enough to the best.

You can suck balls and hang out with some pretty awesome people hoping someone throws a stray comment your way and a girl gives you a hand job in the basement out of pity cause all her other girlfriends got snatched up by the real killers.
mad fat bad banned

[47shadesofgay]

[QUOTE=Autotune;934110]among the best, but not close enough to the best.[QUOTE]


Makes tons of sense.

Did Sirken give you permission to post here? gtfo

[hatelore]

You and me both know that shinko can't type

lol

[Autotune]

[QUOTE=Autotune;934110]among the best, but not close enough to the best.[QUOTE]


Makes tons of sense.

Did Sirken give you permission to post here? gtfo

This ant still thinks he's above me, sorry bro, have fun tickling my boots

[Jfertal]

I know Fatty is an RnF guy once in a while- wonder what his thoughts are on this too....


I mostly stay out of RnF unless it is to call Alawen some sort of derogatory term toward his sexual preference.

These past few threads have turned into a total shit storm, funny to read non the less, but could of been handled a lot differently. Personally, i'd rather talk in tells, or vent instead of RnF bashing.

[hatelore]

One time I was walking in the woods and I came upon this group of people beating the living shit out of this big bloody pulp on the ground. They told me it was a horse, to this day I don't believe them.

[Autotune]

One time I was walking in the woods and I came upon this group of people beating the living shit out of this big bloody pulp on the ground. They told me it was a horse, to this day I don't believe them.

IT WAS A PONY! A BIG FAT PONY!

[Hasbinbad]

Nothing wrong with beating a dead big fat pony.

[Hasbinbad]

imho

[Clark]

I mostly stay out of RnF unless it is to call Alawen some sort of derogatory term toward his sexual preference

hahahaha

[hatelore]

Okay fine... One time i was galantly riding a big fat pony through the woods while wearing an pirates eyepatch with a wooden sword on my hip and i came upon this group of people...

[47shadesofgay]

This ant still thinks he's above me, sorry bro, have fun tickling my boots

Are you banned because you're mad, or are you mad because you're banned? :)

[Alawen]

I mostly stay out of RnF unless it is to call Alawen some sort of derogatory term toward his sexual preference.

These past few threads have turned into a total shit storm, funny to read non the less, but could of been handled a lot differently. Personally, i'd rather talk in tells, or vent instead of RnF bashing.

Hierophant's Cloak. Say it. Think it. Type it.

he - ro - funtz clok

[Clark]

^ full retard?

[OMGWTF420]

Hierophant's Cloak. Say it. Think it. Type it.

he - ro - funtz clok

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/9/5/95bb09e055fe4a54d0c16187a7063ca3.png

never forget

[hatelore]

that sig has a aaa rating. Cracks me up everytime lol.

[Servellious]

Deajay, I have always thought and still do think that you're a legit guy, but this drama isn't simply a result of FE ignoring BDA's solutions. Chest came here and public shamed FE, not Slydexx. He straight made up aspects of the story (e.g. FE leadership complicit because they gave Visc and item he already had). He came here to start drama and he has succeeded. A byproduct of that drama is the fact that no one in FE is really inclined to work towards a reasonable solution with someone who called us thieving pieces of shit before even trying to contact our leadership to resolve the issue (Slydexx is not leadership). The first time I heard the Eye Visc used was taken from BDA was when I read it here on the RnF, and I'd imagine there are others in the same boat.

Basically, if this is a BDA/Slydexx issue, why is chest shaming FE? If this is a BDA/FE issue, why didn't Chest contact FE's leadership?

I don't agree with what took place but basically this. Everyone needs to stop acting like bleeding women my guildies included

[Autotune]

Are you banned because you're mad, or are you mad because you're banned? :)

Not sure why you hit submit on this. The account that I do not play anymore (since the end of Feb) was banned on a server I am no longer a raider on.

You seem like a drowning ant now.

[47shadesofgay]

Thanks for confirming that you are banned. :)

Perhaps one day we will let you back at the big boy table, but most likely not. Your posting has become far too cringe worthy and being assosciated with you is more of an embarassment than anything.

You should make another one of those posts where you tell everyone just how fucking cool you are.

Or perhaps ask Sirken for permission to post something worth responding to. Until then I'm done responding to hurt betas.

[Alawen]

Okay fine... One time i was galantly riding a big fat pony through the woods while wearing an pirates eyepatch with a wooden sword on my hip and i came upon this group of people...

Were you wearing any sort of... cloak?

[OMGWTF420]

nobody cares that stealin is banned, stealin least of all apparently, stop derailing muthafucka

[Autotune]

Thanks for confirming that you are banned. :)

Perhaps one day we will let you back at the big boy table, but most likely not. Your posting has become far too cringe worthy and being assosciated with you is more of an embarassment than anything.

You should make another one of those posts where you tell everyone just how fucking cool you are.

Or perhaps ask Sirken for permission to post something worth responding to. Until then I'm done responding to hurt betas.

I already said my account was banned about a week ago, not my fault you're an idiot.

Also, you've never been to the "big boy" table, please stop injecting yourself into it.

I've never made a post about how cool I am, you lame faggots somehow thought it was.

Lastly, there was nothing to post that time either ;) Yet you queers were eagerly hoping for that special sauce to be hosed down your throats.

I'll forever be RnF king.

[Autotune]

nobody cares that stealin is banned, stealin least of all apparently, stop derailing muthafucka

It's sad, but true.

[Ella`Ella]

Congratulations to Slydexx, the newest officer of FE. Your responsibilities will include,
1) Treasury Management
2) Pioneering our Anti-Chest Division

Chest isn't really pissed about an Eye of Innoruuk that BDA can't utilize, he's really just looking for public forum and bandwagoneers - and we're successfully giving that to him. If Chest had a legitimate concern over the eye, I would have suggested taking your grievance to any of our officers, myself included, and I'm sure none of us would have had a problem reimbursing BDA. However, after such grandstanding, I maintain that I'd give the next eye to Tiggles.

[Tiggles]

I would love to have a HBB QF team up in TMO for a VP or something.


Also when do I get this eye of innoruuk everyone is talking about?

[OMGWTF420]

Congratulations to Slydexx, the newest officer of FE. Your responsibilities will include,
1) Treasury Management
2) Pioneering our Anti-Chest Division

Chest isn't really pissed about an Eye of Innoruuk that BDA can't utilize, he's really just looking for public forum and bandwagoneers - and we're successfully giving that to him. If Chest had a legitimate concern over the eye, I would have suggested taking your grievance to any of our officers, myself included, and I'm sure none of us would have had a problem reimbursing BDA. However, after such grandstanding, I maintain that I'd give the next eye to Tiggles.

another honorable and stand up member of FE, you guys really contribute to the community

fe = TMO 2.0 but with less pixels

[maverixdamighty]

another honorable and stand up member of FE, you guys really contribute to the community

fe = TMO 2.0 but with less pixels

talk to chest.

[Tiggles]

another honorable and stand up member of FE, you guys really contribute to the community

fe = TMO 2.0 but with much much much less pixels

[Servellious]

another honorable and stand up member of FE, you guys really contribute to the community

fe = TMO 2.0 but with less pixels

As much as I disagree with him I'll take a unbrella over a tarathiel anyday.

[Tiggles]

As much as I disagree with him I'll take a unbrella over a tarathiel anyday.

Choose the better of two "C Team" players?

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Congratulations to Slydexx, the newest officer of FE. Your responsibilities will include,
1) Treasury Management
2) Pioneering our Anti-Chest Division

Chest isn't really pissed about an Eye of Innoruuk that BDA can't utilize, he's really just looking for public forum and bandwagoneers - and we're successfully giving that to him. If Chest had a legitimate concern over the eye, I would have suggested taking your grievance to any of our officers, myself included, and I'm sure none of us would have had a problem reimbursing BDA. However, after such grandstanding, I maintain that I'd give the next eye to Tiggles.

You're wrong. He is really pissed about the eye that Sly stole from us.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

another honorable and stand up member of FE, you guys really contribute to the community

fe = TMO 2.0 but with less pixels

[maverixdamighty]

least one of the 3 bda officers in this thread has their head out of their ass.

[Anichek]

I mostly stay out of RnF unless it is to call Alawen some sort of derogatory term toward his sexual preference.

These past few threads have turned into a total shit storm, funny to read non the less, but could of been handled a lot differently. Personally, i'd rather talk in tells, or vent instead of RnF bashing.

I've tried to avoid the bashing too, and seeing me post in RnF is very different than what you or anyone normally would see. I came and posted strictly to voice my opinion because I'm not happy with what happened, both losing the epic piece out of the guild AND losing the trust I had in Sly as a former member of Bro-Court.

I'm not name calling, etc...most of my posts in here after my initial post are simply responses to questions others have raised to me.

[OMGWTF420]

talk to chest.

about what? getting mad that someone stole from our guild? or putting it out here for the community to see?

people keep trying to say the actions of slydexx dont represent the actions of FE, if that is the case then how come slydexx hasn't been booted yet? how come the inny eye hasn't been reimbursed yet? how come FE leadership hasn't apologized for the actions of its rogue member?

this is not a BDA/slydexx matter or a chest/slydexx matter. the item was stolen from bda, not chest. the item was given to an OFFICER of fe, and once more instead of at least pretending to have some sort of remorse or guilt you all just say "oh its not our fault yall should keep better track of your guild bank"

gimmie a fucking break, if you condone slydexx's actions than you are no better than him. and little more than a lying thief