An Apology is owed to Forceful Entry

[Tiggles]

Earlier this week I made a post titled "Caught and banned boxer and MQ user Multania just made full member of FE" showing the application thread of Multania with a 90% approval rating.

I was corrected in that thread saying the poll was not finalized until today.

Within that 3 day time period his approval rating plummited to 50% with a large amount of ...impassioned replies about his character.

Being FEs new recruitment officer I took it upon myself to inform Multania of his declined application and attempted to ease him into a transition of being a guildless cheater once again.

Warning: EQ Nerd Screenshots below.

http://i.imgur.com/D7FrAKF.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/b7OwPKC.jpg


I would implore another guild to take a look at his application because besides bringing in an astounding 18% raid attendance he also brings Cheating, Racism, Sexual Harassment and a silly sounding accent in vent. He will find a home somewhere.

[quido]

tldr

[Hasbinbad]

Tl;dr.

[Tiggles]

People, a hardcore loser just got publicly shamed, show some damn gratitude.

I salute you Tiggles

I'm just doing my job, dealing with applicants in a firm but compassionate way is a learned skill.

[Hasbinbad]

can u maybe explain this so that those of us who don't care can understand

[Tiggles]

can u maybe explain this so that those of us who don't care can understand

Someone got made fun of

[Kagatob]

Most important things I took from this thread.

Trak's new way of spawning pisses off the hardcore raiders (Bonus points go to Rogean for this).

'Ramsay Snow from GoT looks like Samwise from LOTR'

[Splorf22]

tldr

[Lron]

I enjoyed this, would recommend it to a friend and would read again.

[Ephirith]

simply riveting

[Barkingturtle]

Personally I would never join a guild if I wasn't allowed to sex the mouth.

[hatelore]

lol, I Knew Tiggles was the anti-christ. That delivered.

[hatelore]

I thought the day was ruined with that one guys thread about info that he wasn't going to share, or that he might share, or that if cum came out we may hear something? I dunno, but this thread saved the day.

[Kagatob]

If you are saying Tiggles > Autotune. Yes.

[Mortiiss]

Multania is fine in my book. No one's perfect and the guy doesn't mean any harm he just likes playing EQ like the rest of us. To sum it up:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5807837952/h25CD5F67/

[Nietche]

I think it's testament of a great, fun-loving guild when an applicant gets such well-rounded, objective comments about his character

[KotBK]

The vent recording of him that one time was priceless

[Ella`Ella]

I think this RnF is the best thing to happen to Multania's application.

[Doors]

I think he will make a fine member of TMO with that history.

[Ungriim]

Changed vote to yes. Multania accurate historian on QF's life choices.

[Hailto]

Tiggles, have you considered how lame it is that you constantly read FE forums, sit in our vent, and listen in an guild meetings like some sort of elf-emulator voyeur? I mean, even your own guildies have called you out on it.

[odiecat99]

'maybe join blackout' TROLLOLLOLOLLOLLL HAHAHAHA FUCKING DYING HERE!

[quido]

like we really needed another moran to show us what a moran multania is

[OforOppression]

I think he will make a fine member of TMO with that history.

you should join too, plenty of room for RMTers, dave wildner.

[Godefroi]

Tldr

[Servellious]

Someone get this man a job and a gym membership god he must be bored

[Godefroi]

add a girlfriend

;)

[quido]

Visceral, let's see a picture of the last girl you banged =)

[Velkator]

Does this guy get DKP for reading competing guilds forum and listen in on their vent? I would consider this pretty pathetic. But fuck if I know right...

You all are pretty sick

[falkun]

Public posting of private guild member forums is pretty one-sided.

Coldblooded's RL picture.
Foorpor's post.
Multania's app.

This is the "competition" they want.

[Alarti0001]

Public posting of private guild member forums is pretty one-sided.

Coldblooded's RL picture.
Foorpor's post.
Multania's app.

This is the "competition" they want.

Your outrage is pretty one sided
You never seem to get annoyed when tmo's real life pics are posted or our forums or our guildchat.... Hmmmm

[quido]

doing shit like that is retarded regardless of guild affiliation

good way for scrubby EQers to feel important though

[falkun]

Your outrage is pretty one sided
You never seem to get annoyed when tmo's real life pics are posted or our forums or our guildchat.... Hmmmm

Was eccezan or your pic pulled from your own forums? I thought they were pulled from "independant investigation". While equally reprehensible, the source is not the same. If you'd like additional instances of posting from guild forums, I do have two of my own:

1 - I posted Sanluen's BDA guild message response to Eccezan soliciting help from BDA in VP
2 - I posted Coldblooded's "my RL pic is in RNF" post using it to prove you lied about "checking the forums when that was done".

The other instances I can think of is Daliant's "Thanks for all the fish" post exposing TakenMO and someone else exposing TMEnraptured. So I do stand corrected, TMO has also been the victim. Now, I can't remember who posted TMEnraptured, but the other 4 (TakenMO and my previous ones) were all from TMO/ex-TMO members, so I don't count those as a guild is free to expose as much as they want about themselves.

Please stop attempting to artificially inflate the scope of my post to fit your argument. I stated that TMO pulls information from private guild forums, nothing more. I agree RL information should be left out in all forms, but that was not the statement you are quoting.

[Kruel]

I have to say "we'll played sir" to tiggles. Amazing form

[Autotune]

Was eccezan or your pic pulled from your own forums? I thought they were pulled from "independant investigation". While equally reprehensible, the source is not the same. If you'd like additional instances of posting from guild forums, I do have two of my own:

1 - I posted Sanluen's BDA guild message response to Eccezan soliciting help from BDA in VP
2 - I posted Coldblooded's "my RL pic is in RNF" post using it to prove you lied about "checking the forums when that was done".

The other instances I can think of is Daliant's "Thanks for all the fish" post exposing TakenMO and someone else exposing TMEnraptured. So I do stand corrected, TMO has also been the victim. Now, I can't remember who posted TMEnraptured, but the other 4 (TakenMO and my previous ones) were all from TMO/ex-TMO members, so I don't count those as a guild is free to expose as much as they want about themselves.

Please stop attempting to artificially inflate the scope of my post to fit your argument. I stated that TMO pulls information from private guild forums, nothing more. I agree RL information should be left out in all forms, but that was not the statement you are quoting.

TMO doesn't pull the info, it's freely given (unless it's bought)

[falkun]

(unless it's bought)
RMTing the 10mil in TMO's guildbank?

[Tiggles]

Tiggles, have you considered how lame it is that you constantly read FE forums, sit in our vent, and listen in an guild meetings like some sort of elf-emulator voyeur? I mean, even your own guildies have called you out on it.


Yes
Does this guy get DKP for reading competing guilds forum and listen in on their vent? I would consider this pretty pathetic. But fuck if I know right...

You all are pretty sick

Yes

like we really needed another moran to show us what a moran multania is

Yes

[Autotune]

RMTing the 10mil in TMO's guildbank?

Just because your stupid, doesn't mean you can keep running around making stupid statements.

It isn't really funny and it makes people think you're clueless. The ones who find it funny, the slightly retarded herpderpers that bandwagon on the nutsacks of guild tag haters.

People do have jobs, after all.

[falkun]

People do have jobs, after all.

That's a funny statement considering the thread your making it in.

[falkun]

you're*

[Alarti0001]

Was eccezan or your pic pulled from your own forums? I thought they were pulled from "independant investigation". While equally reprehensible, the source is not the same. If you'd like additional instances of posting from guild forums, I do have two of my own:

1 - I posted Sanluen's BDA guild message response to Eccezan soliciting help from BDA in VP
2 - I posted Coldblooded's "my RL pic is in RNF" post using it to prove you lied about "checking the forums when that was done".

The other instances I can think of is Daliant's "Thanks for all the fish" post exposing TakenMO and someone else exposing TMEnraptured. So I do stand corrected, TMO has also been the victim. Now, I can't remember who posted TMEnraptured, but the other 4 (TakenMO and my previous ones) were all from TMO/ex-TMO members, so I don't count those as a guild is free to expose as much as they want about themselves.

Please stop attempting to artificially inflate the scope of my post to fit your argument. I stated that TMO pulls information from private guild forums, nothing more. I agree RL information should be left out in all forms, but that was not the statement you are quoting.

Somewhere in that long diatribe you lost the point. This is normal procedure for you.

You don't find self-initiated posts by Deajay about TMO forum/picture etc leaks. You do find self-initiated posts by Deajay about TMO Competition forum leaks.

/Discuss

[Tiggles]

Guys this isn't a FE vs Tmo thread it's a thread dedicated to finding Multania and his boxed monk a home.

[Autotune]

Guys this isn't a FE vs Tmo thread it's a thread dedicated to finding Multania and his boxed monk a home.

Divinity

[radditsu]

Guys this isn't a FE vs Tmo thread it's a thread dedicated to finding Multania and his boxed monk a home.

If he really wants to box he can come play with me on PEQ. I got an entire guild vault full of crap to deck him out in. A mage/shaman/cleric combo who could get him 50 in a day, and a bazaar mule just FULL of spells.

[Cochonou]

RMTing the 10mil in TMO's guildbank?

TMO's guildbank close to empty. Cash already RMTed

[Tiggles]

TMO's guildbank close to empty. Cash already RMTed

Zee just gave me the ok to buy a seb berserker cloak with guild funds so I doubt it.

[falkun]

Lance, you are doing horrible at keeping the point contained. If you don't know the point, I'm not going to spell it out for you a third time.

[Alarti0001]

Lance, you are doing horrible at keeping the point contained. If you don't know the point, I'm not going to spell it out for you a third time.

Lol Deflect much?

[falkun]

Lol Deflect much?

Compliment from the master of the craft.

[47shadesofgay]

Tiggles, have you considered how lame it is that you constantly read FE forums, sit in our vent, and listen in an guild meetings like some sort of elf-emulator voyeur? I mean, even your own guildies have called you out on it.

Gotta admit I generally like quickfingers but this comment, combined with the point this peaches guy was trying to get across.. it is kind of sad bro.

You're 28 and this troll wasn't even that hard. You basically just told someone he was being removed and why. That's about it?

The troll itself is a 6/10, while the effort you spend reading/pruning/listening in on other guilds conversations is like a 8/10 on pathetic level.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you're going to spend all this time scouring another guilds forums and vent for information you're going to have to get some higher quality shit or it just reflects poorly on you and makes you look worse.

I am disappoint, 5/10 thread by Tiggles given all-time low of 1-star rating. :(

First Stealin, now Tiggles.. ;(

[47shadesofgay]

Visceral, let's see a picture of the last girl you banged =)

Visc is a decent looking non-fat french dude. While I'm sure he's awkward and nerdy I bet the last chick he banged was a solid 8 or better.

I too wish to see photos. Visc please post them.

[Tiggles]

Gotta admit I generally like quickfingers but this comment, combined with the point this peaches guy was trying to get across.. it is kind of sad bro.

You're 28 and this troll wasn't even that hard. You basically just told someone he was being removed and why. That's about it?

The troll itself is a 6/10, while the effort you spend reading/pruning/listening in on other guilds conversations is like a 8/10 on pathetic level.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you're going to spend all this time scouring another guilds forums and vent for information you're going to have to get some higher quality shit or it just reflects poorly on you and makes you look worse.

I am disappoint, 5/10 thread by Tiggles given all-time low of 1-star rating. :(

First Stealin, now Tiggles.. ;(

did the whole thing start to finish in about 15 minutes while being PL'd in Seb. Not sure how hard sending tells is but it's not~


Also FE clears out traks lair for 24 hours straight and keeps a kill group online in lair at all times, forgot to tell rest of the guild to log in and wipes to trak giving TMO the cleanest engage in years.

[Godefroi]

Visc is a decent looking non-fat french dude. While I'm sure he's awkward and nerdy I bet the last chick he banged was a solid 8 or better.

I too wish to see photos. Visc please post them.

Jeremy being in our vent 24/7 since TMO's is boring as fuck, he already got the picture, I gently asked him not to fap to it but he said "too late".

If you want pics you need to either join FE or TME ;)

[Hailto]

did the whole thing start to finish in about 15 minutes while being PL'd in Seb. Not sure how hard sending tells is but it's not~

No you didn't.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Speaking of Multania specifically, I'm genuinely shocked it took this long. Yeah he wasn't a bad guy per se, but, he had zero respect for server rules. Early on we were doing royals and he was boxing multania + topsecret (his enchanter) and was openly talking about it--how do i get my 'characters' down there, he said. I said hey wtf, are you seriously 2 boxing in this fucking raid? And he kinda just shrugged it off.

I reported / petitioned him there but apparently GMs have better shit to do. Blatant cheater and he should've been banned like Malcolm, right jer? :P

[quido]

I gently asked him not to fap to it but he said "too late".

I fapped to the sight of the cheeseburger she was holding.

[Sirken]

Multania.. isnt that the same person that was caught boxing, and after they were caught and suspended, they threatened to have the p99 staff brought to court and arrested?














i think it is ;)

[Tiggles]

Multania.. isnt that the same person that was caught boxing, and after they were caught and suspended, they threatened to have the p99 staff brought to court and arrested?














i think it is ;)

Correct Multania and Peaches his "friends" character is in Forceful Entry (for now)

[Mortiiss]

Multania.. isnt that the same person that was caught boxing, and after they were caught and suspended, they threatened to have the p99 staff brought to court and arrested?














i think it is ;)

No one's perfect, and I believe he was acting out of anger. He regrets what he did and tries to make things right wherever he can, see Tiggles's conversation for an example. Sure, the guy did some stuff he shouldn't have done, but at the end of the day we're all playing classic EQ on this box and I think the guy deserves one last shot to do something he enjoys. If he keeps cheating/boxing/making staff threats (which I doubt would ever get follow-through anyway) then he won't be part of FE.

[Eccezan]

Multania is the biggest tool on project 1999, next to Visceral. Ironic they are both full FE members.

[Hasbinbad]

Multania is the biggest tool on project 1999, next to Visceral. Ironic they are both full FE members.
Not counting yourself, I see.

[falkun]

Multania is the biggest tool on project 1999, next to Visceral. Ironic they are both full FE members.

And your 134 votes would allow you to throw that term around.

[Hurley]

rofl eccezan tries to pile on

[Alarti0001]

And your 134 votes would allow you to throw that term around.

FE has 107 members on the batphone... only need 30ish forum trolls ex ib members and scum like you to vote.

Bias does not make fact.

U bad

[falkun]

FE has 107 members on the batphone... only need 30ish forum trolls ex ib members and scum like you to vote.

Bias does not make fact.

U bad

And what, only 19 of TMO decided to vote no? Sometimes its not what is said, but what is not said that is the most telling. TMO definitely has Eccezan's back in that argument.

[radditsu]

U bad

Least you are getting it.

Also, EVERYONE responds to a batphone...

[Glitch]

This, I like

[Snackies]

I don't think I've ever spoken to Gabtik in game, but that's the best comment ever.

[Versus]

DO NOT BLASPHEME XOSIRE.

[Alarti0001]

And what, only 19 of TMO decided to vote no? Sometimes its not what is said, but what is not said that is the most telling. TMO definitely has Eccezan's back in that argument.

Only an idiot would take lack of evidence... as evidence..

[Alarti0001]

Least you are getting it.

Also, EVERYONE responds to a batphone...

Sorry if you took it that way... i was not implying they did.

[falkun]

Only an idiot would take lack of evidence... as evidence..

134-19 speaks for itself. FE always has 107 people vote in RNF polls. Straw man more. Your logic is faltering.

[ewil]

lol TMO failed miserably, what a crap recruitment strat... you got served.

[Tiggles]

This, I like

DO NOT BLASPHEME XOSIRE.

[odiecat99]

everyone know TMO RMT's accounts and Plat. nothing is done about it, so who gives a fuck?

[Tiggles]

everyone know TMO RMT's accounts and Plat. nothing is done about it, so who gives a fuck?

Our guild bank and funds are public to members and audited monthly our ledges are correct and our books are uncooked.


Every addition and subtraction is tracked.

Can't say the sake for the 15 trak teeth that are still missing from FEs guild bank and most likely went to MQs for Sloans alts.

[Chloroform]

lol, good read. i remember multania. worst cleric in Poison history! lol

[Chloroform]

DO NOT BLASPHEME XOSIRE.

Xosire is king, a legend. no one can come close to this cat.

[Strifer]

Can't say the sake for the 15 trak teeth that are still missing from FEs guild bank and most likely went to MQs for Sloans alts.

What is the point of getting into VP if you can't kill dragons?

kids, join TMO today!

[Alarti0001]

134-19 speaks for itself. FE always has 107 people vote in RNF polls. Straw man more. Your logic is faltering.

.... lol if only you understood basic statistics. The poll was not conducted randomly it is obviously biased. The poll has 0 scientific merit.

[radditsu]

.... lol if only you understood basic statistics. The poll was not conducted randomly it is obviously biased. The poll has 0 scientific merit.


We can't all be gallup.

oh wait:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/gallup-poll_n_1982004.html


Everything has a twinge of bias in it alarti. Even in a "fair" poll. Get off it.

[falkun]

Of course the poll is biased, it was posted in RNF. That still doesn't change the fact that Eccezan, whom 134 trolls say is a tool, called someone else a tool. To put those 134 votes into perspective, Eccezan's own "Visceral is a tool" poll garnered 26 total responses, for ALL options, and Eccezan's options were all essentially "yes" while Visc's was "yes" or "no".

I don't care how biased the poll is, 153 people responded on Eccezan is a tool, with an 87% "yes" rate. 26 people responded to Viscerals. People care about calling Eccezan a tool much more than they care about Visceral.

[Alarti0001]

We can't all be gallup.

oh wait:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/gallup-poll_n_1982004.html


Everything has a twinge of bias in it alarti. Even in a "fair" poll. Get off it.

Gallup is a terrible example as it was a polling organization that decided political money was more important than scientific polling.

[Alarti0001]

Of course the poll is biased, it was posted in RNF. That still doesn't change the fact that Eccezan, whom 134 trolls say is a tool, called someone else a tool. To put those 134 votes into perspective, Eccezan's own "Visceral is a tool" poll garnered 26 total responses, for ALL options, and Eccezan's options were all essentially "yes" while Visc's was "yes" or "no".

I don't care how biased the poll is, 153 people responded on Eccezan is a tool, with an 87% "yes" rate. 26 people responded to Viscerals. People care about calling Eccezan a tool much more than they care about Visceral.

Or maybe Fe cares more about RnF public opinion than TMO does.

[Eccezan]

Of course the poll is biased, it was posted in RNF. That still doesn't change the fact that Eccezan, whom 134 trolls say is a tool, called someone else a tool. To put those 134 votes into perspective, Eccezan's own "Visceral is a tool" poll garnered 26 total responses, for ALL options, and Eccezan's options were all essentially "yes" while Visc's was "yes" or "no".

I don't care how biased the poll is, 153 people responded on Eccezan is a tool, with an 87% "yes" rate. 26 people responded to Viscerals. People care about calling Eccezan a tool much more than they care about Visceral.

Oh so you are saying an outspoken troll and the most public seller of the #1 guild's high end goods is hated on the server? Really, is that supposed to be news?

If I gave a fuck, I wouldn't troll you children every chance I get and/or sell shit on my main account.

"A lion doesn't concern itself with the opinions of sheep." - Tywin Lannister
http://postnoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tywin-435x292.jpg

See you at the next Trakanon or the next VP raid, whichever you decide to lose at again first. If this morning's Trak showing is evidence of anything, FE's day's are numbered.

[Drob]

Oh so you are saying an outspoken troll and the most public seller of the #1 guild's high end goods is hated on the server? Really, is that supposed to be news?

If I gave a fuck, I wouldn't troll you children every chance I get and/or sell shit on my main account.

"A lion doesn't concern itself with the opinions of sheep." - Tywin Lannister
http://postnoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tywin-435x292.jpg

See you at the next Trakanon or the next VP raid, whichever you decide to lose at again first. If this morning's Trak showing is evidence of anything, FE's day's are numbered.

If you cared so little, you probably wouldn't have even posted this. You clearly care way too much.

[Hasbinbad]

Alarti rejects an informal poll because it will not yield results with scientific merit.

Alarti uses this rejection as one side of a diametric binary, suggesting that if only you ignorant plebs would produce a poll with scientific merit, that he, the open-minded academic, would accept the results of your poll and instead reject his friend-proved-rascal, Eccezan.

As if a poll of any sort regarding someones perceived value based on the opinions of this audience could actually yield results with scientific merit.

I say that results with scientific merit are not the only kind of useful results.

[Tiggles]

In truth I feel the recent guild meeting kind of hurt more then it helped. It let members who quietly had issues with the guild know that they where not alone in disliking the way Sloan and Shinko are running the guild.

Now FE is demoting officers and hiring new ones (hi Lilyanna) to try and meet the demands of the new emboldened membership.

FE leadership is looking into the missing raid loot issue brought up and once they run out of excused for where the teeth went and have to admit they passed over active members multiple times so alts can get epics and VP keys they will finally be finished.

They are losing the more casual members daily and the hardcore members are only sticking around due to friends in the guild or a general hatred of TMO.

When your main cleric is only in the guild because his friends HATE TMO then you know you need to work on something.

[Eccezan]

In truth I feel the recent guild meeting kind of hurt more then it helped. It let members who quietly had issues with the guild know that they where not alone in disliking the way Sloan and Shinko are running the guild.

Now FE is demoting officers and hiring new ones (hi Lilyanna) to try and meet the demands of the new emboldened membership.

FE leadership is looking into the missing raid loot issue brought up and once they run out of excused for where the teeth went and have to admit they passed over active members multiple times so alts can get epics and VP keys they will finally be finished.

They are losing the more casual members daily and the hardcore members are only sticking around due to friends in the guild or a general hatred of TMO.

When your main cleric is only in the guild because his friends HATE TMO then you know you need to work on something.

Lilyanna is clearly the best suited candidate for the job.

[Tiggles]

Lilyanna is clearly the best suited candidate for the job.

Language eccezan!

We grouped In KC today she was very polite and gave me Mage tips.

[Eccezan]

Language eccezan!

We grouped In KC today she was very polite and gave me Mage tips.

I apologize if my words were misconstrued, I am having keyboard issues.

[Tiggles]

I apologize if my words were misconstrued, I am having keyboard issues.

Lily couldn't be im the same guild as me because I would make her read me a Wikipedia article every day at random.

It would be like my morning coffee

[Strifer]

Language eccezan!

We grouped In KC today she was very polite and gave me Mage tips.

If you're truly polite you would give more than the tip.

[falkun]

Lilyanna is clearly the best suited candidate for the job.

Lily would care, but she's busy ignoring the opinions of sheep. For my own opinion, while you may be above racist comments, you clearly have zero issues being sexist. So while I send the racists to FE, the sexists can join you and yours?

[Daldolma]

eccezan less lion, more manatee

[Funkutron5000]

The Lion of the Sea! Wait, that's probably a sea lion...

[Eccezan]

Lily would care, but she's busy ignoring the opinions of sheep. For my own opinion, while you may be above racist comments, you clearly have zero issues being sexist. So while I send the racists to FE, the sexists can join you and yours?

No idea what you are talking about, my comment was purely positive.

[Alarti0001]

Lilyanna is clearly the best suited candidate for the job.

Hey lily is a nice person, keep her out of it...even if she is eating ancient IB propaganda

[Hasbinbad]

Lillyanna is a very nice person and doesn't deserve your brutish chicanery.

[Enygma]

Multania is fine in my book. No one's perfect and the guy doesn't mean any harm he just likes playing EQ like the rest of us. To sum it up:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5807837952/h25CD5F67/

mortiis supports cheaters/sexual harassment/racism/guild drama....

no wonder FE fallin appart at the seems.

[Godefroi]

If FE days were numbered I wonder why all the TMO trolls are all fired up trying to flame us in here, as well as Quickfingers a.k.a no life, fat, voyeur trying everything he can in order to harm FE, even creating fake RMT accounts to frame some of our members.

Carry on my little cunts, this is funny to read lol

www.eccezan.com is still funnier though

[Alarti0001]

In truth I feel the recent guild meeting kind of hurt more then it helped. It let members who quietly had issues with the guild know that they where not alone in disliking the way Sloan and Shinko are running the guild.

Now FE is demoting officers and hiring new ones (hi Lilyanna) to try and meet the demands of the new emboldened membership.

FE leadership is looking into the missing raid loot issue brought up and once they run out of excused for where the teeth went and have to admit they passed over active members multiple times so alts can get epics and VP keys they will finally be finished.

They are losing the more casual members daily and the hardcore members are only sticking around due to friends in the guild or a general hatred of TMO.

When your main cleric is only in the guild because his friends HATE TMO then you know you need to work on something.

Also, Visceral/Godefroi apparently supports cheaters... cause in his words... TMO has lots of cheaters!

http://i.imgur.com/aofAljc.png://

Also, Hi tiggles!

[falkun]

Desmo - that fear incident? How was that fast poofing? I explained that...

[Tiggles]

Hi Hurley!

[Eccezan]

Multania getting booted from TMO after 2 days of apping in 2011.
http://i.imgur.com/IHIeQEd.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

Wow. I mean, even if I believed that you guys were giving him a real shot, which I don't, that dude is a derp.

[Tiggles]

I wish Multania would grace this thread with his presence and tell us his side of the story

[Alarti0001]

Wow. I mean, even if I believed that you guys were giving him a real shot, which I don't, that dude is a derp.

Come on.... we give everyone a shot... we even gave you a shot... until you got in vent and creeped everyone out.

[Godefroi]

Also, Visceral/Godefroi apparently supports cheaters... cause in his words... TMO has lots of cheaters!

http://i.imgur.com/aofAljc.png://

Also, Hi tiggles!

I know you guys get a boner by creeping in our forum lol

I shall remind you Aiaus, Desmo - TMO : fast poofers

Bouncer - TMO : MQ/RMT

Jeremy - TMO : dual box

Sericx - TMO : just banned for breaking play nice rules and training on purpose random people in Sebilis.

the list is just long. People get 6 months bans for getting caught RMT'ing. They get less for getting caught MQ'ing.

You're bad at this Alarti, just as bad as hitting on Jaed ;)
This guy obviously has a long history, but if he wants to raid, so be it. He was fine so far during his app.

[Strifer]

Multania getting booted from TMO after 2 days of apping in 2011.

Jerry Springer + EQ = Multania

Five dollars say that at least 15 2-liters of Faygo can be found at any time near their computer.

[Godefroi]

Multania getting booted from TMO after 2 days of apping in 2011.
http://i.imgur.com/IHIeQEd.jpg

You add everyone on ignore anyways, pussy ;)

[Hasbinbad]

Come on.... we give everyone a shot... we even gave you a shot... until you got in vent and creeped everyone out.
I'm sorry you felt apprehension for your assginity when I turned up. You're cute an everything, but not my type tho.

[47shadesofgay]

Multania getting booted from TMO after 2 days of apping in 2011.
http://i.imgur.com/IHIeQEd.jpg


You seemed to handle that pretty professionally for the most part. Personally this individual seems far too stupid to have ever taken your advice to heart (as this thread obviously proves) so I'm not sure I would have wasted my time attempting to break it down to them, but I must admit this is better than I would have expected from you.

[Tiggles]

Oof!

I just read the app thread on that vittra person who app'd to FE.


Why can't you people just give game play reasons with someone? Why do you had to make everything so personal or hateful

It's not nearly as bad as Multania but give the poor girl a break.

[quido]

So many ass burgers in this thread

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[lilyanna]

Tiggles the comments you have made on the Multania and Vittra accounts are so inaccurate, but people know that you love to be a forum troll and I don't think they take you seriously.

As for any officers leaving FE, that's not happening nor are you assumptions about future officers correct.

However I can confirm I was giving you Mage lessons today, I hope you took that all on board :p I feel like I have benefited TMO at raids by 0.00000000000001 % ;)

[quido]

maybe you should take a lesson from yourself and learn to coth yourself when your guild trains you!

[lilyanna]

maybe you should take a lesson from yourself and learn to coth yourself when your guild trains you!

Hmm ?! My guild doesn't train me, to what incident are you referring?

[Godefroi]

maybe you should take a lesson from yourself and learn to coth yourself when your guild trains you!

Dark Ascension you mean ?

We fixxed this ;)

[quido]

FE females and The Smurfs share a common oppressor, lol.

[lilyanna]

Don't know if you are aware of this Jeremy.. but for future reference.. clerics don't have COH ;)

[Godefroi]

Why are you guys even talking on the forum lol, just chat in vent.

[quido]

You learn something every day I guess! And all this time I thought Aiaus could somehow coth himself to like random locations!

I left vent because I need a nap before my dear mother drops in for a visit in a few hours.

Good night sweethearts <3

[lilyanna]

No he just used /q to make it seem like that :p

Have a nice visit with your mum

[Hailto]

Think im going to roll red tonight or tomorrow, is membership granted from low level for members of FE? :)

[Hailto]

Membership to TME that is.

[Servellious]

Eccezan we can't hang out at a bar if you talk like that even I don't have enough game when you speak to women like that. If you don't want to stay a virgin learn how to speak to the ladies.

[Tiggles]

Kind of an a lot list don't ya think?

[Tiggles]

Kind of an a lot list don't ya think?

Old*

[Mortiiss]

If you cared so little, you probably wouldn't have even posted this. You clearly care way too much.

Yeah, pretty much. It's also why he doesn't post here as much, he does care a lot, and that's fine! It makes the server more fun for me.

mortiis supports cheaters/sexual harassment/racism/guild drama....

no wonder FE fallin appart at the seems.

Fuck off, pig. Go write a traffic ticket or something.

In truth I feel the recent guild meeting kind of hurt more then it helped. It let members who quietly had issues with the guild know that they where not alone in disliking the way Sloan and Shinko are running the guild.

Now FE is demoting officers and hiring new ones (hi Lilyanna) to try and meet the demands of the new emboldened membership.

FE leadership is looking into the missing raid loot issue brought up and once they run out of excused for where the teeth went and have to admit they passed over active members multiple times so alts can get epics and VP keys they will finally be finished.

They are losing the more casual members daily and the hardcore members are only sticking around due to friends in the guild or a general hatred of TMO.

When your main cleric is only in the guild because his friends HATE TMO then you know you need to work on something.

People aren't in the guild just because they hate TMO. Think what you want, people want to raid and were unable to because of your guild. FE represents the raiders on the server who said 'fuck you" to this and made it work anyway We're hitting a roadblock right now, but we've hit many to get to where we are now. Spin on, DJ.

Tiggles the comments you have made on the Multania and Vittra accounts are so inaccurate, but people know that you love to be a forum troll and I don't think they take you seriously.

As for any officers leaving FE, that's not happening nor are you assumptions about future officers correct.

However I can confirm I was giving you Mage lessons today, I hope you took that all on board :p I feel like I have benefited TMO at raids by 0.00000000000001 % ;)

This sums it up pretty much.

In closing: Tiggles is unemployed and it shows big time. Off to work, see you kids later.

[getsome]

was in a rush leaving work, and was short on new material.

my bad.

[Mortiiss]

Eccezan we can't hang out at a bar if you talk like that even I don't have enough game when you speak to women like that. If you don't want to stay a virgin learn how to speak to the ladies.

He buys his women with daddy's trust fund money or the job he graciously gave him for 0 effort because he was born of his seed. Wonder what it's like being handed everything in life and not working for it, wouldn't know personally hehe.

[Tiggles]

He buys his women with daddy's trust fund money or the job he graciously gave him for 0 effort because he was born of his seed. Wonder what it's like being handed everything in life and not working for it, wouldn't know personally hehe.

Well I'm sure the eyeliner was a gift from your mother.

[Godefroi]

Well let's summarize here for a second.

Quickfingers is the sort of loner that is desperate enough to post about his catastrophic real life situation out here.

He gets fired from his job and finds a way to get over it.

-> pays in game plat to an ex FE app to get access to your forum and trolls anything and everything he cans. Also go into our vent to listen.

The real question is, how big of a loser are you to do such things lol

[Servellious]

Well I'm sure the eyeliner was a gift from your mother.

The eating disorder gene was a gift from.....?

[Mortiiss]

Well I'm sure the eyeliner was a gift from your mother.

Nope, sure wasn't, it was worn for pictures by request of a certain female friend. Thank you for admiring though, I know your life is boring being unemployed and all and reading FE's guild forums. Have fun with that! Gotta go now, but please keep it up, I love the abuse.

[Servellious]

I tried to quote getsomes post but my iPhone blew up from the zerg

[Godefroi]

The eating disorder gene was a gift from.....?

Honestly when I saw those Meccezan pictures and what a gathering of fat nerds TMO was back then Quickfingers would have fit right in lol, it's suprising he wasn't hanging with the cool kids back then.

He fo sho adapted and got their waiste size since then

[Tiggles]

Well let's summarize here for a second.

Quickfingers is the sort of loner that is desperate enough to post about his catastrophic real life situation out here.

He gets fired from his job and finds a way to get over it.

-> pays in game plat to an ex FE app to get access to your forum and trolls anything and everything he cans. Also go into our vent to listen.

The real question is, how big of a loser are you to do such things lol



I'm a people person not a loner

I have a new job

He is a current member and I got it from an officer not an app

Can't argue with the loser part I do play fake EQ.

[Alarti0001]

Old*

I saw hurley in there at #230 prior to his rmt scandal

[Godefroi]

I'm a people person not a loner

I have a new job

He is a current member and I got it from an officer not an app

Can't argue with the loser part I do play fake EQ.

You're a loner and a creep pal just face it lol

I'm glad you have a new job!

Now get on a diet and find your media naranja, it's about time fat joe

[Alarti0001]

The eating disorder gene was a gift from.....?

Kagok....how are you going to comment on someones weight... with your life story?

[Tiggles]

fat joe

:)

[kotton05]

QF just mad his right hand got severed!!!! So when ever ya need a hand just ask!!

[Tiggles]

QF just mad his right hand got severed!!!! So when ever ya need a hand just ask!!

Why do you think I've been talking to Lilyanna ?

[Eccezan]

He buys his women with daddy's trust fund money or the job he graciously gave him for 0 effort because he was born of his seed. Wonder what it's like being handed everything in life and not working for it, wouldn't know personally hehe.

Sounds like the life! Whoever told you this story about me trolled you hard...where are you getting your IRL info from?

[Tiggles]

Sounds like the life! Whoever told you this story about me trolled you hard...where are you getting your IRL info from?

Pretty sure everyone who doesn't live in a trailer like him is part of the entitled club.

[kotton05]

Why do you think I've been talking to Lilyanna ?

Haha, well that's a good start for amputee. Lily has the healing voice we all know. I'm sad I've yet to catch ya online on red. We can team up and kill unbrella.

[Kieu]

I'm just doing my job, dealing with applicants in a firm but compassionate way is a learned skill.

Your job as a "recruitment officer" is to make threads on RNF about them being denied? I dont really care who this guy is, frankly you're way of showing someone got denied is retarded. Are you a child?

[kotton05]

I'm sure he was a great line leader in elementary Kieu

[Servellious]

Kagok....how are you going to comment on someones weight... with your life story?

How? You type words and press enter are you retarded?

[Sinlea]

Oof!

I just read the app thread on that vittra person who app'd to FE.


Why can't you people just give game play reasons with someone? Why do you had to make everything so personal or hateful

It's not nearly as bad as Multania but give the poor girl a break.


Go outside Tiggles, you clearly have way too much emotionally invested in this game. You just make yourself look more and more pathetic each time you post your "juicy details" that no one actually gives a shit about.

Also, pretty sure almost everyone likes me, and if they don't, fuck em :)

[kotton05]

Also, pretty sure almost everyone likes me, and if they don't, fuck em :)

<3 ya

Vittra keeping it real

[Godefroi]

Vittra is an awesome app so far !

Don't Forget to vote when she s up ;)

[radditsu]

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[radditsu]

What a strange movie. But hopefully Tiggles learns a lesson by the following clip.

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[Alarti0001]

How? You type words and press enter are you retarded?

I was talking in regards to your "i've been fat my whole life post" in your off topic section of your forums.

[Servellious]

Still have no idea what that has to do with what I comment or where I am at now but keep reaching

[Tiggles]

Haha, well that's a good start for amputee. Lily has the healing voice we all know. I'm sad I've yet to catch ya online on red. We can team up and kill unbrella.

You mess with Goerge Costanza you mess with me

[Alarti0001]

Still have no idea what that has to do with what I comment or where I am at now but keep reaching

Just saying... its strange when fat people calls others fat.

[kotton05]

Just saying... its strange when fat people calls others fat.

http://www.officehell.co.uk/uploads/items/images/Im-not-fat-im-big-boned-1313.jpg

back in teh day fat people = rich and well off
in current day fat people = number 3, 4, 5 with diet coke

[Ella`Ella]

You mess with Goerge Costanza you mess with me


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[arosian]

By creating this thread, you actually proved his point about having too much free time.

[beyondinfin]

Goddamnit guys. I got all excited at the trash Multania thread. I am disappoint.

Can I talk some smack anyways? Ever see his boats? I loved the time IN peace pipe vent Multania was talking about mosquito bites on his ass (we never got a reason why he was sleeping bare ass). The constant shouts "Does anyone need a CLER-DD-RICK!?" were so fucking hilarious. When I heard he got banned for 2boxing I wasn't surprised...he was constantly "on his sisters account". Glad to see his crap status is secure.

[Mortiiss]

Pretty sure everyone who doesn't live in a trailer like him is part of the entitled club.

I'm from Philly actually, like you. And being from Philly, you would know there aren't many trailers there. Try again, you're a pretty bad investigator - all of your calls have been wrong for a month now.

[Tiggles]

I'm from Philly actually, like you. And being from Philly, you would know there aren't many trailers there. Try again, you're a pretty bad investigator - all of your calls have been wrong for a month now.

Oh god your from Philly?

I bet you go to Shampoo on "Nocturne" night.

also I don't have your number, want your number,called your number.

[Tiggles]

I'm from Philly actually, like you. And being from Philly, you would know there aren't many trailers there. Try again, you're a pretty bad investigator - all of your calls have been wrong for a month now.

Also your forum account on the FE boards says your from "socal" who is lying to who!

[Mortiiss]

Oh god your from Philly?

I bet you go to Shampoo on "Nocturne" night.

also I don't have your number, want your number,called your number.

I don't live in Philly now, I'm from there. I went to Shampoo when I was a teenager.

I shall say no more, and I don't get the number thing...is that a joke? I'm confused.

[Mortiiss]

Oh, the call reference. I meant that more as your personal assumption as in "I called it!" kind of thing. Sorry for the confusion there bud.

[quido]

Tiggles I know you don't care, but I hope you realize what a stupid fucking weasel you look like coming out with all this internal FE info. Stop being such a dumb faggot.

[Mortiiss]

Tiggles I know you don't care, but I hope you realize what a stupid fucking weasel you look like coming out with all this internal FE info. Stop being such a dumb faggot.

I think it hurts his cause more than helps it, personally.

[Tiggles]

Tiggles I know you don't care, but I hope you realize what a stupid fucking weasel you look like coming out with all this internal FE info. Stop being such a dumb faggot.

Only because you got me boots...

[ewil]

Hey TMO... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp0cg91rK2o

Nothing else to add really... fawkin cornballs...

[ewil]

Multania getting booted from TMO after 2 days of apping in 2011.
http://i.imgur.com/IHIeQEd.jpg

lmao, mmkay the guy is a hothead ok... thats fixable.... but you being a snitch... well, thats for life...

[Kagatob]

^
Doctored SS, everyone knows that Eccezan can't type nearly that well, nor can he hold his cool for more than 2 lines of text even the few times that someone's agreeing with him.

[Servellious]

Just saying... its strange when fat people calls others fat.

Not fat anymore. Keep reaching

[Hasbinbad]

^
Doctored SS, everyone knows that Eccezan can't type nearly that well, nor can he hold his cool for more than 2 lines of text even the few times that someone's agreeing with him.
www.eccezan.com posting a screenshot from Everquast doesn't mean www.eccezan.com took said screenshot.

[Alarti0001]

Not fat anymore. Keep reaching

Unless your 6'8 you are

[Servellious]

Unless your 6'8 you are

For someone who talks so intelligently and im sure is smarter than me, you say the dumbest things sometimes, i would get into body fat % and things but i think its just way over your head. As i said before keep reaching you just keep making yourself look stupid.

[Doors]

dat body fat %

[Servellious]

dat body fat %

its all height and weight doors what are you talking about.

[Alarti0001]

For someone who talks so intelligently and im sure is smarter than me, you say the dumbest things sometimes, i would get into body fat % and things but i think its just way over your head. As i said before keep reaching you just keep making yourself look stupid.

If you are trying to lose 22 lbs in the next 3 months... where do you plan to lose that weight from? Muscle mass? Brain matter(not much to spare)?
It only makes sense that you plant to lose 22lbs of body fat. 22lbs is alot of body fat to lose. Implying fat. Of course 22lbs distributed across someone who is 6'8" is a different story than on someone who is 5'5" So please lets get into percentages. Also, how tall are you?

Or.... you could stop calling others fat... when you were a fatty for 99%+ of your life.

[Alarti0001]

If you are trying to lose 22 lbs in the next 3 months... where do you plan to lose that weight from? Muscle mass? Brain matter(not much to spare)?
It only makes sense that you plant to lose 22lbs of body fat. 22lbs is alot of body fat to lose. Implying fat. Of course 22lbs distributed across someone who is 6'8" is a different story than on someone who is 5'5" So please lets get into percentages. Also, how tall are you?

Or.... you could stop calling others fat... when you were a fatty for 99%+ of your life.

also yes i realize there are spelling errors :)

[Doors]

I was assuming it was all muscle.

[Servellious]

If you are trying to lose 22 lbs in the next 3 months... where do you plan to lose that weight from? Muscle mass? Brain matter(not much to spare)?
It only makes sense that you plant to lose 22lbs of body fat. 22lbs is alot of body fat to lose. Implying fat. Of course 22lbs distributed across someone who is 6'8" is a different story than on someone who is 5'5" So please lets get into percentages. Also, how tall are you?

Or.... you could stop calling others fat... when you were a fatty for 99%+ of your life.

its really not that much, its 2 months of work and not all of it is fat, my % is 14.3 which isnt very high, trying to get ripped to participate in some some events and different sports and the extra muscle mass just saps energy and endurance. You know oxygen to support more muscle more calories burned etc etc watch UFC fights and how fast the yoked out guys burn out. But you obviously dont understand much about working out and losing weight and changing ones body but keep reading my story i will keep you updated, tiggles can even join in on it with anyone else who wants to improve their physical fitness and health.

[Hasbinbad]

wat if all my body fat is in my cock?

[Sinlea]

wat if all my body fat is in my cock?

then you probably have elephantitis

[quido]

good 1 moran

[Alarti0001]

its really not that much, its 2 months of work and not all of it is fat, my % is 14.3 which isnt very high, trying to get ripped to participate in some some events and different sports and the extra muscle mass just saps energy and endurance. You know oxygen to support more muscle more calories burned etc etc watch UFC fights and how fast the yoked out guys burn out. But you obviously dont understand much about working out and losing weight and changing ones body but keep reading my story i will keep you updated, tiggles can even join in on it with anyone else who wants to improve their physical fitness and health.

Yes you are obvious a pro bodybuilder/MMA fighter. Because eliptical and stairmaster is that intense cardio training MMA fighters, and bodybuilders need!


my work outs consist of 30 minutes eliptical and 30 minutes stairmaster in the morning first thing on an empty stomach, i also rotate in some hiking when my gf or buddy wants to hit the trails. At night i either do back/bi (pull), chest/tri/shoulders (push) or another set of cardio. Im going to start legs now that contest is over and i dont have to worry about being sore for 3 days and missing a cardio session or 2. I have been working out about 6 days a week and sometimes 7.

basically i was obese growing up around 320lbs at the age of 23, over 2 years i had lost 120lbs and was sitting at around 200lbs when i turned 25. Well between nursing school and having a girlfriend and not chasing tail i gained 55lbs back in january 2013 i was 255, im now down to 227 and plan to hit 200lbs in 3 more months, i will then work on strength building and training to do a century on my road bike. I just turned 30 and feel like this is my last chance to get a good grasp on my health and fitness and take control back.

[Alarti0001]

Yes you are obvious a pro bodybuilder/MMA fighter. Because eliptical and stairmaster is that intense cardio training MMA fighters, and bodybuilders need!


my work outs consist of 30 minutes eliptical and 30 minutes stairmaster in the morning first thing on an empty stomach, i also rotate in some hiking when my gf or buddy wants to hit the trails. At night i either do back/bi (pull), chest/tri/shoulders (push) or another set of cardio. Im going to start legs now that contest is over and i dont have to worry about being sore for 3 days and missing a cardio session or 2. I have been working out about 6 days a week and sometimes 7.

basically i was obese growing up around 320lbs at the age of 23, over 2 years i had lost 120lbs and was sitting at around 200lbs when i turned 25. Well between nursing school and having a girlfriend and not chasing tail i gained 55lbs back in january 2013 i was 255, im now down to 227 and plan to hit 200lbs in 3 more months, i will then work on strength building and training to do a century on my road bike. I just turned 30 and feel like this is my last chance to get a good grasp on my health and fitness and take control back.

Side note: I respect your struggle and the effort you put in to getting healthy.
The hypocrisy is what i cant stand.

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/Xz0QKXW.jpg

[Servellious]

Side note: I respect your struggle and the effort you put in to getting healthy.
The hypocrisy is what i cant stand.

You win i cant circle jerk with you anymore, im just laughing at your ignorance, ill keep the thread updated, you can keep the rest of RNF peeps updated since you have taken personal interest in my journey.

[Godefroi]

damn phara dar to 30%

I'm MAD !

lol

[Kodlar]

I'm just doing my job, dealing with applicants in a firm but compassionate way is a learned skill.

Lol this really shows how much of a douchebag most TMO members are by doing shit like this.. Most of this shit is spun way out of proportion, and for you to actually scan our website really does show that you have no life. gg on making yourself look even more like a tool.

[quido]

And you only had to cheat to get an attempt!

[Godefroi]

By Amelinda rules sure, but Amelinda was also a corrupted GM and she got KICKED !

Now this is Sirken's world, and so far, Sirken said :

-Off world spots : fine (thanks TMO)
-Pulling a dragon through the zone off world : fine (thanks TMO)

As long as you get hit by the AE, why would it be cheating ?

You guys played all your cards in VP, we're showing you how it's done now ;)

[quido]

Lol you can't really claim ignorance on this one. I doubt anything will come of it, but you know damn well that engaging dragons in spots like that isn't allowed - Sirken confirmed this when he took over. Go ahead and play dumb though.

[quido]

We would do that every single time if it was allowed.

[Godefroi]

Sure, show me Sirken saying it is forbidden.

go ahead :)

[Tanthallas]

We would do that every single time if it was allowed.

Do it then.

100% hit by AEs; 100% legit encounter.

[quido]

Haha, you guys are getting desperate <3 can't blame ya for trying

[quido]

Do it then.

100% hit by AEs; 100% legit encounter.

Yeah same with the picture room ledge.

[Godefroi]

30% on phara dar with our numbers isn't quite desperate ;)

I call it heroic and thrilling !

[Tanthallas]

Being a non CSR zone does not mean you have to fight mobs where you can be trained. There is no exploit being used by fighting them in a spot that you have a much harder time training us in, unless you can show me how it somehow makes the encounter itself easier?

[quido]

Lol yeah, like I said, play dumb. You know damn well that shit isn't allowed.

[Godefroi]

Well obviously doing so makes TMO lose their advantage of numbers.

With an elite crew of 25 man no trains make it easier.

TMO doesn't care with 55 if we train a racnar or two, unless it's a huge train, they still get the kill because the zerg always wins !

Don't be mad though, you will still get the majority of the kills for now, but we can snipe the ones really interesting to us this way ;)

[quido]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/onmyown.png

[Tanthallas]

Lol yeah, like I said, play dumb. You know damn well that shit isn't allowed.

I also know per Amelinda that pulling through walls is not allowed...yet this is how TMO sniped the last 3 Phara Dars. Straight from his spawn point to the entrance; straight through the wall. This is how you started training us on our spot; pulling Nexona from her lair over the world on top of us. If you can train a fucking dragon on us at a spot, we sure as hell can engage it at that same spot.

For some reason you think you guys can pick and choose which one of Amelinda's rulings are still valid and not valid insofar as they benefit your raid force. Unfortunately, until Sirken tells me that an area where I can pull dragons which does not trivialize the PVE encounter but helps me avoid your trains is not allowed...I am definitely going to continue to use it.

[Servellious]

I also know per Amelinda that pulling through walls is not allowed...yet this is how TMO sniped the last 3 Phara Dars. Straight from his spawn point to the entrance; straight through the wall. This is how you started training us on our spot; pulling Nexona from her lair over the world on top of us. If you can train a fucking dragon on us at a spot, we sure as hell can engage it at that same spot.

For some reason you think you guys can pick and choose which one of Amelinda's rulings are still valid and not valid insofar as they benefit your raid force. Unfortunately, until Sirken tells me that an area where I can pull dragons which does not trivialize the PVE encounter but helps me avoid your trains is not allowed...I am definitely going to continue to use it.

LALALALALALALALALALA MY EARS ARE COVERED

[Eccezan]

Given that the kiting rule has been overruled with this new GM change I have a couple questions about some recent rule changes.

1) Using Eye of Zomm wall glitch to zone in to target / train zone in? Is this still illegal?

2) Regarding VP raiding: Is using ledge in the picture room to fight dragons still illegal? Currently guilds are not allowed to position a dragon on the ledge in the picture room and fight him there due to vague "pathing exploits." Given the change in GM's, and the changes to the AE in zone (now outdoor zone, walls do not block AE), the ledge no longer offers any strategic PVE advantage during the actual fight encounter. Are we allowed to position dragons there to fight now?

Eccezan Heds, Officer of The Mystical Order

patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.

Forceful Entry is a desparate guild playing dumb because they have no hope otherwise. Looks like you need to have Sirken come in here and spell out each location in VP that is off limits for you because you just dont get it? Fucking morans.

[kotton05]

meccezan plz go update eccezan.com

ps. isn't it weird how its turned to TMO crying exploit?

[Eccezan]

meccezan plz go update eccezan.com

ps. isn't it weird how its turned to TMO crying exploit?

Umm when Forceful Entry is blatantly not following the rules of the server, why wouldn't we?

[Halfelfbard]

Well um, there is a reason we dont kill em there. Because we dont want a raid vacation.


(something about intelligence) Scum.

Merkk's still cool tho.

[Tanthallas]

Umm when Forceful Entry is blatantly not following the rules of the server, why wouldn't we?

So let me get this straight...

TMO can train VP dragons to wipe FE raid by pathing them through the world onto FE at this particular spot...but FE cannot engage these dragons at this particular spot? And you really think people dont see why you like it this way?

[Eccezan]

Since you obviously don't read english, I'll make this simple for you. It's illegal until overruled by Sirken/Rogean/Nilbog. Which means, you broke the rules. Period.

So let me get this straight...

TMO can train VP dragons to wipe FE raid by pathing them through the world onto FE at this particular spot...but FE cannot engage these dragons at this particular spot? And you really think people dont see why you like it this way?

Given that the kiting rule has been overruled with this new GM change I have a couple questions about some recent rule changes.

1) Using Eye of Zomm wall glitch to zone in to target / train zone in? Is this still illegal?

2) Regarding VP raiding: Is using ledge in the picture room to fight dragons still illegal? Currently guilds are not allowed to position a dragon on the ledge in the picture room and fight him there due to vague "pathing exploits." Given the change in GM's, and the changes to the AE in zone (now outdoor zone, walls do not block AE), the ledge no longer offers any strategic PVE advantage during the actual fight encounter. Are we allowed to position dragons there to fight now?

Eccezan Heds, Officer of The Mystical Order

patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.

Forceful Entry is a desparate guild playing dumb because they have no hope otherwise. Looks like you need to have Sirken come in here and spell out each location in VP that is off limits for you because you just dont get it? Fucking morans.


patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.


patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.


patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.


patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.

[kotton05]

Well um, there is a reason we dont kill em there. Because we dont want a raid vacation.


(something about intelligence) Scum.

Merkk's still cool tho.

I was under that impression too at first, but upon what Zapatos has shown me, unless told otherwise its 100% legal, in regards to how you can train dragons up top.

<3 HE

Now on another serious note, can someone provide evidence not from an old GM saying otherwise?

Being that pulling thru walls in legal, kinda sets the precedent pretty much all but ninja looting is acceptable. Was fun tho guys, grats!

[Eccezan]

I was under that impression too at first, but upon what Zapatos has shown me, unless told otherwise its 100% legal, in regards to how you can train dragons up top.

<3 HE

Now on another serious note, can someone provide evidence not from an old GM saying otherwise?

Being that pulling thru walls in legal, kinda sets the precedent pretty much all but ninja looting is acceptable. Was fun tho guys, grats!

Oh, So is Sirken an old GM now?

[Eccezan]

Again, the reason why TMO doesn't kill Dragons on ledges.


patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.

So, what is the reason that Forceful Entry feels they can break GM established raid rules?

[quido]

I demand bans any time a mob paths through a wall, despite the fact that you often can't help it in the least.

[Tanthallas]

I demand bans any time a mob paths through a wall, despite the fact that you often can't help it in the least.

LOL

Yes, you often cant help repeating it on the same pull over and over again. Such a mystery!

[kotton05]

Oh, So is Sirken an old GM now?

From what I hear its a rule Amelinda made and hasn't been reviewed since.

[Godefroi]

I knew taking PD to 30% would make TMO rage implying us killing him is near.

I didn't think it would make them rage this much lol

[Alarti0001]

From what I hear its a rule Amelinda made and hasn't been reviewed since.


Yes strangely enough... and obvious exploit is still an obvious exploit. If the current GM's leave and we get new ones does that mean you can use MQ2 until the new GM's say its bad?

[Cecily]

Good thread.

[Alarti0001]

I was under that impression too at first, but upon what Zapatos has shown me, unless told otherwise its 100% legal, in regards to how you can train dragons up top.

<3 HE

Now on another serious note, can someone provide evidence not from an old GM saying otherwise?

Being that pulling thru walls in legal, kinda sets the precedent pretty much all but ninja looting is acceptable. Was fun tho guys, grats!

Derper, training isn't exploiting a raid mob for loots. You call yourself a raid guild but you are this uninformed when it comes to VP raid rules?

[Versus]

God Forbid We Attempted A Dragon Where They Did, TheyWould Be Screaming Bloody Murder For A Raid Suspension.


Why The Fuck Can't I PosT Like I'm Not A Retard From My Phone Now?!

[radditsu]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68664&highlight=Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

[Alarti0001]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68664&highlight=Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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The Mystical Order 60 Monk Silentone


I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.


Ambrotos' rules were overturned by sirken in a public raid rules post.

[Kieu]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68664&highlight=Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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The Mystical Order 60 Monk Silentone


I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

zing.

[Versus]

sigh @ Radditsu.
Keep Crying Wolf And Twisting Information To Suit You.

a) If Invis Pulling Was Fixed, Mobs On Separate Factions Would Still Come Solo, Aka Vp Dragons. (Not Exploit, Classic)
b) stuDy Your Server History Little Buddy, This Was Done To Prevent The Vd GrIefers (Your More Talented Elders) From MeM Blurring Our Dragons Back To Full Hp, Not To Prevent Training.

[Rhambuk]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68664&highlight=Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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The Mystical Order 60 Monk Silentone


I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

I would love to see a legit vp. Where entire raid corpses rot unless another raid can come bail them out. Planar geared epic characters rotting because the zone is just that tough.

instead we see single pull of named and practically 0 trash being cleared. really just makes vp a joke

[Fountree]

Just found this thread and heard about PD last nite. Went immediately to try to find this post but Ecc beat me haha. Why isn't FE addressing this post? Because to me it looks like your guild broke the raid rules in VP and a guild suspension is probably inc.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Eccezan View Post
Given that the kiting rule has been overruled with this new GM change I have a couple questions about some recent rule changes.

1) Using Eye of Zomm wall glitch to zone in to target / train zone in? Is this still illegal?

2) Regarding VP raiding: Is using ledge in the picture room to fight dragons still illegal? Currently guilds are not allowed to position a dragon on the ledge in the picture room and fight him there due to vague "pathing exploits." Given the change in GM's, and the changes to the AE in zone (now outdoor zone, walls do not block AE), the ledge no longer offers any strategic PVE advantage during the actual fight encounter. Are we allowed to position dragons there to fight now?

Eccezan Heds, Officer of The Mystical Order
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirken View Post
patch question people - i dont have much info about the patch respawn stuff. this is more for raid guild interaction so that the staff members dont have to babysit.


Eccezan - 1) yes still illegal. 2) also still illegal. ill talk to Nilbog and Rogean about it though, and if they feel it should be changed, we will change it.

[radditsu]

Ambrotos' rules were overturned by sirken in a public raid rules post.

So all rules made by AMBROTOS were overturned, but not Amelinda in regards to VP? Seems selective, especially since VP is supposed to be a non intervention zone, and every other zone is. Sirken seems more hardcore and less interventionist when it comes to these type of things. Does not seem his style. He seems a more kill or be killed type of GM.

If rules in VP are still in place, then rules can be made in VP. Did they ever patch the memblur thing? I assume not.

Here i will copy and paste my previous point in RNF speak

A. MAKE CLEAR RULES AND FOLLOW THEM FAGGOT
B. PULLING DRAGONS THROUGH WALLS IS EXPLOITING FAGGOTS
C. http://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/boobs-920-4.jpg REFER TO A
D. http://i.imgur.com/s2YYodH.jpg

[Fountree]

Radditsu: see my last post. Sirken specifically talks about ledge pulling there lol there's no doubt that it's clear. Keep ignoring.

[radditsu]

sigh @ Radditsu.
Keep Crying Wolf And Twisting Information To Suit You.

a) If Invis Pulling Was Fixed, Mobs On Separate Factions Would Still Come Solo, Aka Vp Dragons. (Not Exploit, Classic)
b) stuDy Your Server History Little Buddy, This Was Done To Prevent The Vd GrIefers (Your More Talented Elders) From MeM Blurring Our Dragons Back To Full Hp, Not To Prevent Training.



A) Yes If arrows worked like classic a SK could pull anything solo anywhere. Doesn't make it a bad idea
B) I guess preventing trains was just a nice little side effect ?

[radditsu]

lol

The resolution on those boobs was such an awesome unintentional side effect.

[Alarti0001]

So all rules made by AMBROTOS were overturned, but not Amelinda in regards to VP? Seems selective, especially since VP is supposed to be a non intervention zone, and every other zone is. Sirken seems more hardcore and less interventionist when it comes to these type of things. Does not seem his style. He seems a more kill or be killed type of GM.




Ambrotos' rules were removed because they made little sense. How long does FE think they can keep playing the "ignorance" card?

[radditsu]

More bitching

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68674&highlight=Ledge+amelinda


Amelinda:

VP is a non GM intervention zone as far as raid interference goes.

It doesn't give you a pass for exploiting or for trivializing raid content.

nice try though.

If you think i'm being unfair then please feel free to PM nilbog and/or rogean. and / or myself.

however i can tell you all that sitting here in public hurling insults and being disrespectful just doesn't give me the warm fuzzy feeling of "Gee, you are right"

Sooo quit putting words in my mouth. and re-read what i said.
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If pathing dragons through walls to avoid adds is "exploiting" (hint: it is) or trivializing raid content (hint: it is). Then every VP capable guild has been exploiting for at least a year. Phara dar ping pongs down and ports herself through a wall to zone in, or even to ledge. Nothing has been done in either TMO's case or FE's case. If previous (amelinda's) rules were being enforced at least one of these should have been a suspension/public admonishment by GM's.

If pathing is hard to deal with, and dragon/large mob pathing seems a little wonky on the server, why not "test" Dozekar's leash on phara dar ^_^.

Personally, every time I am in VP it never passes the "Feel" test for me. Something about it seems wrong compared to live.

Also I want to note I am not calling any GM out about this. I also am not calling any developer out about this. I would prefer if this could be settled in game. I just want to point some things out for everyone to see just how arbitrary it is in VP

[radditsu]

Ambrotos' rules were removed because they made little sense. How long does FE think they can keep playing the "ignorance" card?


Conjecture. Just because things made little sense to your world, does not mean they made little sense to others. Quit showing your "bias" Alarti.

[radditsu]

Ambrotos' rules were removed because they made little sense. How long does FE think they can keep playing the "ignorance" card?

Sorry for triple post but also 63 (64 now?)phara dar's in a row does not allow you to play an ignorance card. A guild who is barely starting VP raiding should be allowed a slight bit of leeway when it comes to the minutiae of the RULES of a zone that apparently should not have any rules.

[Safon]

Was Multania voted into FE?

[Godefroi]

Was Multania voted into FE?

You can ask Qfat since he is our spokesman :D

[Fountree]

Radditsu still ignoring previous evidence posts that the specific behavior engaged in by FE is not allowed in VP according to Sirken. Keep spinning and ignoring lol.

[radditsu]

Radditsu still ignoring previous evidence posts that the specific behavior engaged in by FE is not allowed in VP according to Sirken. Keep spinning and ignoring lol.

By Definition of Exploiting /Trivializing raid content both are at fault, even if it was not to both's knowledge.

I'm not ignoring, but you are terrible at posting, so I choose to not deal with you.
I'm sorry if it went over your head. Your situational awareness must be pretty low to get it.

[Cochonou]

I'm a people person not a loner

Living with Amelinda and her kids doesn't count as a people person. Still a loner to me.

[Rhambuk]

Living with Amelinda and her kids doesn't count as a people person. Still a loner to me.

Loner maybe, philanthropist you bet!

[Alarti0001]

By Definition of Exploiting /Trivializing raid content both are at fault, even if it was not to both's knowledge.

I'm not ignoring, but you are terrible at posting, so I choose to not deal with you.
I'm sorry if it went over your head. Your situational awareness must be pretty low to get it.

Perun SEQ user found!.

You are incorrect in your statements however. =) How is TMO exploiting... do tell.

[Alarti0001]

Conjecture. Just because things made little sense to your world, does not mean they made little sense to others. Quit showing your "bias" Alarti.

Sorry for triple post but also 63 (64 now?)phara dar's in a row does not allow you to play an ignorance card. A guild who is barely starting VP raiding should be allowed a slight bit of leeway when it comes to the minutiae of the RULES of a zone that apparently should not have any rules.

Being able to get informed does not indicate bias.

Please show how TMO is pulling PD or any VP Dragon onto ledges, and then fighting them in walls. Once you do that you can demonstrate how our cases are alike.

[radditsu]

Perun SEQ user found!.

You are incorrect in your statements however. =) How is TMO exploiting... do tell.

Exploiting pathing and warping through walls to pull mobs like phara dar single to the zone in is not an exploit? If you pulled trakanon to the zone in ( would be just as easy to do) would this not be considered an exploit? Let me quote amelinda again for you.

Amelinda:

VP is a non GM intervention zone as far as raid interference goes.

It doesn't give you a pass for exploiting or for trivializing raid content.

nice try though.

If you think i'm being unfair then please feel free to PM nilbog and/or rogean. and / or myself.

however i can tell you all that sitting here in public hurling insults and being disrespectful just doesn't give me the warm fuzzy feeling of "Gee, you are right"

Sooo quit putting words in my mouth. and re-read what i said.
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[Alarti0001]

Exploiting pathing and warping through walls to pull mobs like phara dar single to the zone in is not an exploit? If you pulled trakanon to the zone in ( would be just as easy to do) would this not be considered an exploit? Let me quote amelinda again for you.

Amelinda:

VP is a non GM intervention zone as far as raid interference goes.

It doesn't give you a pass for exploiting or for trivializing raid content.

nice try though.

If you think i'm being unfair then please feel free to PM nilbog and/or rogean. and / or myself.

however i can tell you all that sitting here in public hurling insults and being disrespectful just doesn't give me the warm fuzzy feeling of "Gee, you are right"

Sooo quit putting words in my mouth. and re-read what i said.
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GM's also realize pathing in VP is fucked.... which is why they specifically pointed out that the ledges are off limits.

Also, you have still failed to show TMO fighting a VP dragon in a wall.

Keep spinning bro.