My anti-military thread..

[orsk]

Yes.

However, the goals behind making this thread are not the same goals as I was alluding to.

This thread was made to troll gung ho douchebags, and it has largely been successful.

Well you win my vote! whats is your address I want to cast my brick I mean vote..

[Hasbinbad]

There has never been a successful revolution based on talking.

[Hasbinbad]

Well you win my vote! whats is your address I want to cast my brick I mean vote..
ty for proving this thread successful.

wanna fite irl bro?

[Ephirith]

Because talking has done so much good in the past?

The Anglo-American governmental miracle that conquered the entire world over the last few centuries was built on an effective system of talking. We have a very strong common law tradition and a history of relative civil stability. It's a shame you have to troll so much.

[orsk]

ty for proving this thread successful.

wanna fite irl bro?

Depends on one thing!

[Hasbinbad]

The Anglo-American governmental miracle that conquered the entire world over the last few centuries was built on the gold stores of the disenfranchised aristocracy of Europe.
ftfy

[Hasbinbad]

The Anglo-American governmental miracle that conquered the entire world over the last few centuries was built on an effective system of talking. We have a very strong common law tradition and a history of relative civil stability. It's a shame you have to troll so much.
Seriously tho, your rhetoric is too thick for me to stomach. Calm that shit down and rephrase this. I can't even get through it without smashing things.

[Auvdar]

.. God damnit HBB shut the fuck up. I like you bro, but shut the fuck up with this military crap. It's not funny, it's not trolling. It's just retarded. (Sorry, I got to about page 15 of this.. gave up after that :D )

[Ephirith]

I never know where you draw the line between trolling and genuine absurdity; it's clearly not between real life and forumquest because you own--and presumably sometimes wear--a fucking keffiyeh.

And I just mean the British people were very good at governing and being a part of a stable, relatively functional social compact, and it has helped a lot. They were willing to talk instead of throw a brick to a much greater extent than some other cultures-- Europe and beyond.

[Hasbinbad]

England was the largest imperial state since .. Alexander?? Attila?? It spanned the world at the end of a sabre. I don't even.........

[Hasbinbad]

Khan?

Fun question: Who had a bigger empire than england?

Gonna be a real short list.

[Hasbinbad]

CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ARE USING ENGLAND AS YOUR EXAMPLE

so fucking rofl right now

[Hasbinbad]

Sure it's super easy to have a stable state when 3/4 of the world performs slave labor to provide you goods bro.

[47shadesofgay]

You need Jesus

[Hasbinbad]

^Speaking about England and the US.

[Hasbinbad]

You need Jesus
I actually have a close personal relationship with my conception of Jesus. Dude was a pretty awesome guy who loved the poor and hated rich banker/priests.

I don't believe any of the mumbo jumbo, but rather take the stories about him as secular fables or parables from which to learn.

[Hasbinbad]

Kind of like Odysseus or Frodo.

[Ephirith]

England was the largest imperial state since .. Alexander?? Attila?? It spanned the world at the end of a sabre. I don't even.........

Sure it's super easy to have a stable state when 3/4 of the world performs slave labor to provide you goods bro.

I'm talking about internally, in terms of maintaining the integrity of the state. Of course they are going to go abuse brown people the world over, just like we do today. But back at home, people tended to solve problems by talking before they resorted to brick-throwing. That relative domestic stability helped them go out and subjugate effectively.

This is about the effectiveness of talking before you chimp out. Being a large, brutal empire sucks in certain ways, but it's not very relevant. The state was stable before it "enslaved 3/4 of the world" anyway, and long after. It's about what goes into keeping your evil empire together, not the evil things it does.

[Hasbinbad]

Yeah they just enslaved the irish before they moved on to india etc..

Again:

REAL FUCKING EASY TO HAVE INTERNAL STABILITY WHEN LABOR IS PROVIDED BY OPPRESSED PEOPLE SOMEWHERE ELSE

[Hasbinbad]

Also, real fucking easy to keep it that way once you've squeezed sufficient resources to put you on top.

[Doors]

Fail troll attempt thread is fail.

[Hasbinbad]

Fail troll attempt thread is fail.
7 (40 post) pages in less than 24 hours, rl threats, people fucking mad, doors saying i failed.

troll thread success.

[Ephirith]

I'm not sure how much of what you actually believe makes it on here, but the part we can see is so hateful and toxic.

You fix it up so it's shocking and palatable to RNF, and it wins you attention, but I think there's some honest to God core beliefs in there somewhere. It's so easy for you to say "lulz look how mad u are, I troll u" at the end, but it's got to make you wonder a little when your views are so dumbfuckingly batshit insane that their mere mention trolls the reader.

Sad too because opposing the oligarchy is a good cause, yet you choose to conduct yourself like an ape.

You make Gandhi sad.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1069/sadgandhi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/sadgandhi.jpg/)

[Zadrian]

I think what HBB is essentially trying to say is stop sending our military to wars that we don't need to be in - let them go ape shit on other countries and then claim that it is being done for the good of our nation and for our freedoms.

Let's be real, Iraq and Afghanistan were no threat to our freedoms or our constitution.

We need a military - the world will never be John Lennon's "Imagine," but that doesn't mean we should want to go around and create an imperial state under the guise of "democracy"

[Zadrian]

Really, you think since "presumably" we vote people in, we have any control over what happens after they are in office?

What makes you think our vote counts?

And

No congressman will admit to war on their campaign trail.

[Zadrian]

Your cryptic message doesn't mean anything.

That being said, no one that I've ever voted for has ever made it into office because they are not of the top 2 parties.

You let me know how that research works out to let you know which congressman will be for future wars that haven't been thought up yet.

[Hasbinbad]

You make Gandhi sad.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1069/sadgandhi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/sadgandhi.jpg/)
Ghandi was a rhetorical douchebag who could absolutely not have accomplished what he did without the ravaging mobs of India who didn't listen to him.

[Hasbinbad]

If I take as a given the need for a state, and the need for things like borders, then a defensive military is superficially desirable. However, I do not take those things as given.

[Hasbinbad]

And .. there is no such thing as a US defensive military, and there hasn't been since pearl harbor.

[Zadrian]

Well it is a given because we are the human animal and no matter how much we like to think that we are above wild animals, we fail to escape our baser instincts. We are territorial creatures and unfortunately, human nature plays a role in the way we progress.

We will always need to have a method to defend ourselves as long as humans have wants and greed.

[Zadrian]

And .. there is no such thing as a US defensive military, and there hasn't been since pearl harbor.

I dont disagree there, i was just generally speaking.

[Lron]

hasbin, You have been posting non stop for like 18 hours all day today....im starting to get worried.

[Hasbinbad]

I've been doing stuff around the house today, running errands around town.. have occasion to check rnf often due to my comfortable lifestyle.

[47shadesofgay]

HBB I am a former Marine turned banker.

I was wondering if you would like to get together some time for some beers and wings?

My treat.

[Aviann]

Don't turn him down HBB, you'll ruin it for all of us!!!

[SamwiseRed]

HBB I am a former Marine turned banker.

I was wondering if you would like to get together some time for some beers and wings?

My treat.

you sound like a swell chap.

[Splorf22]

Our representation is unhealthy because people are fucking ignorant. They don't take an active interest in politics, and they don't put any real sincerity or effort into making the right political choices. You're right to say that the line between a vote and a real political outcome has been clouded by corruption and money, because it has... but that has just as much to do with corruption at the top as it does with decay at the bottom.

You can not have a healthy state with an ignorant electorate. It got this way because people were too fucking stupid to run the system properly. One nice thing about our system is you can't blame all your problems on the elite without looking like an ass, because the only way it got that way is because you fucked up your duty as a citizen and let a nice, semi-functional republic-system become a real oligarchy.

Yet you probably think you're speaking in everyone's best interests when you want to throw a brick at the establishment. When someone like you feels like they need to opt out of the system just because they aren't getting their way, that just undermines everything. I think a more fair and a more effective use of your time would be to encourage other people to speak in their own best interests until the system works again, instead if chimping out like a god damned somalian.

This is extremely optimistic. The problem is that everyone will always be ignorant. Read Mancur Olson for a good description of how government is always owned by special interest groups.

[Aviann]

This is extremely optimistic. The problem is that everyone will always be ignorant. Read Mancur Olson for a good description of how government is always owned by special interest groups.

Regardless of who owns what... Fuck the government.

[Hasbinbad]

HBB I am a former Marine turned banker.

I was wondering if you would like to get together some time for some beers and wings?

My treat.
rofl!

[Lron]

hasbin, can you please post a picture of yourself here? I need to know if my mental image of you is accurate. Im also a gay.

[Rellapse10]

is ugly fat picture is spread through out these forums won't be hard to do a quick search for a laugh

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/grnNgOK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R37LM6A.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0mmmCxB.png

Although I did get a haircut and have different whiskers now, I am still fat, mad, and bad.

[Hasbinbad]

is ugly fat picture is spread through out these forums won't be hard to do a quick search for a laugh
You're so cute when you're trying to be insulting.

[Rellapse10]

You're so cute when you're trying to be insulting.

if i wanted to try i would. You see this dude

http://i.imgur.com/R37LM6A.jpg

flew out to meet this P99 chick

http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/06530272209c11e280a722000a9e28dc_7.jpg

but got rejected and she later fell inlove with this guy

[IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/1z3msgm.jpg

So HBB sits around alone hating the military and cops all day

[Mortiiss]

Regardless of who owns what... Fuck the government.

[Hasbinbad]

Except that none of that is at all true. But keep making up HBB erotica bro, I love fan art.

[Aviann]

Holy crap both of those guys in the pic look like they are wearing like 15 shirts in the middle of the desert

[Hasbinbad]

coz i'm cold blooded