Half of FE's monks are suspended, Loses Trak when they have to compete

[Godefroi]

paused at the 3 second mark of Sloan's video

http://i.imgur.com/EnHPFuL.jpg

Nietche Totenreich of The Mystical Order

NAILED it hahaha

[Godefroi]

Hey frog boy, Good luck on getting your epic before you quit out of desparation and loss (again).

*Desperation, that angry you type too fast outta rage?

I'll get my epic and not from your 750 kpp MQs that you RMT to buy more shitty XXL leather jackets to hide your fat :D

[Eccezan]

*Desperation, that angry you type too fast outta rage?

I'll get my epic and not from your 750 kpp MQs that you RMT to buy more shitty XXL leather jackets to hide your fat :D

awww frog boy is angry...insulting a leather jacket from a 10 year old picture? that the best you got? ahahahahaha....you are sad, mad and pathetic.

[dmann253]

Ya we rushed and wiped 41 people maybe 35 at trak and some just rezzedz it happens. Curious though is would tmo lost another trak, just like last trak had they not engaged and trained. Is rather wipe on qn honest attekpt then train a guild on a dishonest one. But its ok train was prolly caused by an alt.

Pure bullshit. What TMO pulled and what FE pulled afterword are completely 2 different things. Engaging with low numbers and purposely training are night and day different.

[Eccezan]

*Desperation, that angry you type too fast outta rage?

I'll get my epic and not from your 750 kpp MQs that you RMT to buy more shitty XXL leather jackets to hide your fat :D

It must be pretty frustrating to be so shitty in the only thing you have in life. No job, no personality, so hateful. It's a shame, I feel bad for someone whose been a necro on this server for so long and so experienced that you still cant complete your epic.

[Godefroi]

The frog made me laugh haha

Thank you, yes I am experienced, but not that much, I can't solo kill CT, FE is getting there though :D

Still a mad and fat late 40s mexican unleashing his anger on an elf forum :D

I'm just making fun of you, get over it already.

[AenarieFenninRo]

But you have to admit if tmo had not engaged then there would be no issue.

So now TMO isn't allowed to engage a mob?

no, I know thats misinterpreted, I just laughed when reading so had to repeat it back.

I understand what you're really trying to say in that if we had engaged with larger numbers to start then MAYBE this may not have happened, as it is, we didn't, and it did happen... not with intention, not with malice, simply a botched engage.

Instead of logging out to avoid snafu, FE stayed in, and even engaged with similar low numbers... had FE logged out instead and let it reset, MAYBE you would have beat trak today, but you didn't.

We ended up getting rezzed up faster to engage and beat Trak.

We can throw a bunch of what if scenarios here all day long, but what happened, happened.

Errors in judgement made on both sides yes?

My largest annoyance here, is that if you look at the fraps that started this thread, a monk IN AGRO LOS OF TRAK stands to pull the corpse, and that resulted in a train - ON BOTH GUILDS, why stand?

You can /corpse while FD... you stand, you see mobs coming at you, you FD again! there's 2 options for you to do rather than train... neither of these happened.

Thats a pretty terribad monk move, and I would like to think that nobody is that bad at being a monk. If they are, they should reroll or something because seriously, its like you have never played a monk before or something...

I can only assume that they are NOT that bad, how else could you have gotten to 60... which means that they wanted the stuff to come... which leads to the simple conclusion that they were trying to train.

[Eccezan]

The frog made me laugh haha

Thank you, yes I am experienced, but not that much, I can't solo kill CT, FE is getting there though :D

Still a mad and fat late 40s mexican unleashing his anger on an elf forum :D

I'm just making fun of you, get over it already.

I'm glad you liked the frog, I made sure to put a necro epic in it for ya, since you won't see one in game for a long time ;)


Yea you like to taunt people, huh?

http://i.imgur.com/18Qml0K.jpg

[Godefroi]

I'm glad you liked the frog, I made sure to put a necro epic in it for ya, since you won't see one in game for a long time ;)


Yea you like to taunt people, huh?

http://i.imgur.com/18Qml0K.jpg

What makes you think that ?

Just need a bile, not really worried regarding how FE is pushing at, we were last time 4% away from getting a double bile.

Keep trying meatball.

Monty Python is funny yes :D

[Eccezan]

What makes you think that ?

Just need a bile, not really worried regarding how FE is pushing at, we were last time 4% away from getting a double bile.

Keep trying meatball.

Monty Python is funny yes :D

4% huh? So close, yet so far....oh yea, speaking of bile, you 500k and its yours frenchie... you can afford it.

[Godefroi]

4% huh? So close, yet so far....oh yea, speaking of bile, you 500k and its yours frenchie... you can afford it.

I think you still don't get it ome

We aren't going anywhere, we are gonna start killing CT just like we started killing "hard" (c) Alartimobs like Gore.

Necro epic is worthless, i'll still flash mine because it's so far made off TMO bodies. ;)

You can keep MQ'ing and selling that platinium to patch up your low incomes, I have a guild with a roster as big as yours to have fun and get me what I want :D

[Scowlie]

I understand what you're really trying to say in that if we had engaged with larger numbers to start then MAYBE this may not have happened, as it is, we didn't, and it did happen... not with intention, not with malice, simply a botched engage.

You stalled with a small amount of numbers and deliberately wiped us at ledge. There is a fraps that shows this clearly. If you had not intentionally wiped us, there would have been no CRing shenanigans and Trak would have died before you even had enough people logged in to legitimately engage.

Funny story, every time you engage Trak from across the ledge, you always run past it. There was zero reason for any of your members to be peeking around the corner and sitting on top of our raid.

You can try to spin that any way you want, but the few fraps we have is pretty evident and shows what really happened.

Anything after your guild wiping us is moot - your entire raid should have been suspended on the spot.

Then you guys follow it up with trying to steal our Sev pull that we were engaged on so you could presumably jack the spells or some shit? I dunno, TMO is shady as fuck.

You aren't fun to compete with and RNF has become a platform for your guild to spew your bullshit.

[Shinko]

epic is not useless

[KentalCowtipper]

Now now Ecce don't hate on the poor frenchie just because he's an unemployed slob. After all his country is suffering from close to the worst unemployment ever:

http://www.france24.com/en/20130226-french-unemployment-level-hits-15-year-high

Then again maybe they could stop blaming everyone and everything else and just take a look at their work ethic....

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-02-28/titan-ceo-maurice-taylor-on-a-failed-french-factory-deal

“We expect workers to come in for seven hours a day. You’ll get paid for your lunch hour and break, but I’ve noticed that currently you work about three good hours in the day and the rest of the time you remind me of a beauty parlor with all your chit-chat and milling around.” Well, Spike got up and said, “You do not understand—that is the French way!” I proceeded to tell him that the French way, my friend, means you’re going to lose your job.

Seven hour work days. Check.
Hour long paid lunches and breaks. Check.
Retirement age raised recently (causing riots lol) to a "horrible" 62. Check.

Next time Germany takes France over I say we just let them keep it.

[Eccezan]

I think you still don't get it ome

We aren't going anywhere, we are gonna start killing CT just like we started killing "hard" (c) Alartimobs like Gore.

Necro epic is worthless, i'll still flash mine because it's so far made off TMO bodies. ;)

You can keep MQ'ing and selling that platinium to patch up your low incomes, I have a guild with a roster as big as yours to have fun and get me what I want :D

Keep telling yourself all that stuff buddy. If you dream hard enough, it will come true. Seriously... It will, in velious!

And I hope you don't go anywhere Visceral. Taunting the shit out of you is too fun. When you and your cronies quit like absolute bitches before, it was truly boring, for so so long. Glad you are back. You can continue being the laughable frog for everyone to poke fun at. I also love it how you guys accuse TMO of RMT so blatantly with zero proof. So much baseless drivel. You are absolutely a disgrace. ;)

Beating you is going to continue to be fun. <3

[Scowlie]

Beating you is going to continue to be fun. <3

Where were you at the arena, friend?

Surprised you were so afraid to defend your throne.

[Autotune]

epic is not useless

Yeah, like shinko says. Epic isn't useless, it fills the MH slot.

[Eccezan]

Where were you at the arena, friend?

Surprised you were so afraid to defend your throne.

Oh, camped out in a more useful location for a blue server, you wouldn't know anything about it really.

[Godefroi]

Oh, camped out in a more useful location for a blue server, you wouldn't know anything about it really.

like North wall?

/yawn.

[finalgrunt]

From the fraps, to me it looks like TMO was after Prot and trained Trak away from the lair :p :D

[Godefroi]

Keep telling yourself all that stuff buddy. If you dream hard enough, it will come true. Seriously... It will, in velious!

And I hope you don't go anywhere Visceral. Taunting the shit out of you is too fun. When you and your cronies quit like absolute bitches before, it was truly boring, for so so long. Glad you are back. You can continue being the laughable frog for everyone to poke fun at. I also love it how you guys accuse TMO of RMT so blatantly with zero proof. So much baseless drivel. You are absolutely a disgrace. ;)

Beating you is going to continue to be fun. <3

We are beating you so far. and even in the Arena. hahaha

I'll let you comfort yourself with your 80$ everquest necklace :P

Lol @ Kental farmer redneck boy having a go at france economics :D

[Trollcake]

Oh, camped out in a more useful location for a blue server, you wouldn't know anything about it really.

Isn't like you would have made a difference anyways. Better you sat, fap'd, and talked shit on fourmquest and saved a little face.

[baramur]

Boring already. Eccezan talking smack, tmo engaging track and then dropping it on Fe, cyrano accidently aggroing and dropping it on Fe while cring, Fe training tmo while tmo cring, Fe wiping withike rushing, the whole thing was a shit show with no show. Both guilds should be suspended for 2 weeks or until they decide to stop the shit and figure out a solution. Whole thing could have been avoided by tmo dying in lair on their failed first attempt but they will not say that but spin .Spin. And yes. Having a mob you engage aggro another raids camp spot.w:cool:hen you fail is training. Simple solution make it where anything across bridge off limits to raid unless engaging trak or doing cr, then if any guild trains another whether accident or not, the guild agrees to sit next two traks out. We don't need gms to solve everything for us.

[Scowlie]

Oh, camped out in a more useful location for a blue server, you wouldn't know anything about it really.

Maybe if you were camped out in a useful location, you would have gotten Sev today?

I figured the arena would have been a lot of fun for you - I guess you're just afraid?

Oh well, have fun staying camped out, I guess.

[AenarieFenninRo]

TMO is shady as fuck. You aren't fun to compete with and RNF has become a platform for your guild to spew your bullshit.

Y-U-SO-MAD?

[Eccezan]

We are beating you so far. and even in the Arena. hahaha

I'll let you comfort yourself with your 80$ everquest necklace :P

Lol @ Kental farmer redneck boy having a go at france economics :D

Keep telling yourself that man, will take much more than a few mobs on a short EQ week to beat us. ;)

Grats on zerg recruiting 170 casuals into your guild. Hopefully most of them can get to level 60 before finding out that the guild is built on foundation historically known for bad decisions, and rage quitting. I'm sure most of them are seeing it now though. How many members have you had banned this week alone? LOL

Oh and that $80 fanfaire registration necklace does keep me warm at night, have it hanging from my fironie vie model on my dresser next to my LDoY fanfaire t-shirt. :D

[dmann253]

People really camp out in a spot for Sev??

[Godefroi]

Oh and that $80 fanfaire registration necklace does keep me warm at night, have it hanging from my fironie vie model on my dresser next to my LDoY fanfaire t-shirt. :D

Confirmed man child, late 40s unmarried fat mexican lol.

Why do you carry on Eccezan ? this is humiliating.

[Trollcake]

Keep telling yourself that man, will take much more than a few mobs on a short EQ week to beat us. ;)

Grats on zerg recruiting 170 casuals into your guild. Hopefully most of them can get to level 60 before finding out that the guild is built on foundation historically known for bad decisions, and rage quitting. I'm sure most of them are seeing it now though. How many members have you had banned this week alone? LOL

Oh and that $80 fanfaire registration necklace does keep me warm at night, have it hanging from my fironie vie model on my dresser next to my LDoY fanfaire t-shirt. :D

http://www.sodahead.com/temp/2012_11_07/22/0/0/2/5/6/6/9/5/5/yawn.gif

confirmed losing edge.

[Eccezan]

Maybe if you were camped out in a useful location, you would have gotten Sev today?

I figured the arena would have been a lot of fun for you - I guess you're just afraid?

Oh well, have fun staying camped out, I guess.

Grats on your Sev still pending GM FTE decision. And grats on all that game changing loot he dropped. Feel special? Can't even come close to ATTEMPTING a VP dragon with 61 fucking keys. "Forceful Entry" seem's more like "Casually Waiting to enter VP during Velious" -- Weak ass punks! <3

[Eccezan]

Confirmed man child, late 40s unmarried fat mexican lol.

Why do you carry on Eccezan ? this is humiliating.

Confirmed Early 50's, hermaphrodite, cheese addicted frenchman. Shower today yet? Or just a french shower? ;D

[Eccezan]

Confirmed man child, late 40s unmarried fat mexican lol.

Why do you carry on Eccezan ? this is humiliating.

Should ask you that, Just getting the balls to come out with being a white surrender flag waving frog. At least your guild will know who to have wave it when you guys quit. <3

[KentalCowtipper]

Now now Ecce don't hate on the poor frenchie just because he's an unemployed slob. After all his country is suffering from close to the worst unemployment ever:

http://www.france24.com/en/20130226-french-unemployment-level-hits-15-year-high

Then again maybe they could stop blaming everyone and everything else and just take a look at their work ethic....

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-02-28/titan-ceo-maurice-taylor-on-a-failed-french-factory-deal

“We expect workers to come in for seven hours a day. You’ll get paid for your lunch hour and break, but I’ve noticed that currently you work about three good hours in the day and the rest of the time you remind me of a beauty parlor with all your chit-chat and milling around.” Well, Spike got up and said, “You do not understand—that is the French way!” I proceeded to tell him that the French way, my friend, means you’re going to lose your job.

Seven hour work days. Check.
Hour long paid lunches and breaks. Check.
Retirement age raised recently (causing riots lol) to a "horrible" 62. Check.

Next time Germany takes France over I say we just let them keep it.

[baramur]

Mad brah? Do you even lift?

[Trollcake]

Eccezan confirmed for queso injecting mexicant neckbeard

[KimIam89]

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[Eccezan]

http://i.imgur.com/tqytTbJ.jpg

[baramur]

Grats on your Sev still pending GM FTE decision. And grats on all that game changing loot he dropped. Feel special? Can't even come close to ATTEMPTING a VP dragon with 61 fucking keys. "Forceful Entry" seem's more like "Casually Waiting to enter VP during Velious" -- Weak ass punks! <3

Haters will be haters. Amazing for a guy to tell his guild ifthey gonna cheat to use alts, to actually question someone's else's integrity. Sad after 18 months tmo still feels the need to try to block anyone else from advancing their toons. I hope you live life different then your da personna. Its a game, should be enjoyable by all, but it never will be, at this rate, personally I think it would funny if gms raid suspended both our guilds, since both tmo and Fe are acting like bitches.

[Eccezan]

Haters will be haters. Amazing for a guy to tell his guild ifthey gonna cheat to use alts, to actually question someone's else's integrity. Sad after 18 months tmo still feels the need to try to block anyone else from advancing their toons. I hope you live life different then your da personna. Its a game, should be enjoyable by all, but it never will be, at this rate, personally I think it would funny if gms raid suspended both our guilds, since both tmo and Fe are acting like bitches.

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[KimIam89]

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[Clark]

Where's the TMO raid force? I see 4 people moving in to crowd a guy who FD'd his aggro during a corpse pull.

0/10 indeed.

+1

[Clark]

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how dare you ever act like you are half the man the rock is, it doesn't matter who Eccezan is

[Picks]

Isn't eccezen a tmo officer? Way to rep the guild bro

[Godefroi]

Should ask you that, Just getting the balls to come out with being a white surrender flag waving frog. At least your guild will know who to have wave it when you guys quit. <3

http://i.imgur.com/Nhq2R.gif

[Godefroi]

http://i.imgur.com/tqytTbJ.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kof6n07DCt1qzma4ho1_500.jpg

[Godefroi]

Lol he really is becoming the new Harrison

[maverixdamighty]

All of this is actually wrong.

Getting hit with a dragon's AE will not put you on his aggro list.

If you're saying that because you ate an AE that your raid got trained, you're all idiots and it's no wonder you all suck at training in VP.

I can't believe no one else has even mentioned this, bunch of retards "raiding"...

if you could learn to read i said once trak passes that corner now and you have LOS y ou have agro. has nothing to do with the ae moron. you should quit posting as well as playing it seems.

[Autotune]

if you could learn to read i said once trak passes that corner now and you have LOS y ou have agro. has nothing to do with the ae moron. you should quit posting as well as playing it seems.

I seriously hope you get guild removed for this.

[maverixdamighty]

I seriously hope you get guild removed for this.

seriously hope you quit posting because you are a moron.

[maverixdamighty]

I seriously hope you get guild removed for this.

"hai gaiz, i don't play anymore and haven't raided trak since his agro change, but i'm going to comment on it like I have a clue. bbl going to bang my sister"

Signed,

Stealin

[Autotune]

ib4 claims trolling.

[Autotune]

"hai gaiz, i don't play anymore and haven't raided trak since his agro change, but i'm going to comment on it like I have a clue. bbl going to bang my sister"

Signed,

Stealin

lawl.

[maverixdamighty]

lawl.

read the last patch notes inbred...

[Autotune]

read the last patch notes inbred...

Oh no, please enlighten me. I would love for you to post it here.

[Autotune]

It's days like today that makes it so great you can't edit in RnF.

[maverixdamighty]

It's days like today that makes it so great you can't edit in RnF.

Sundawg: Trakanon's agro radius has increased

Go sit in your corner. you are on timeout for stupidity.

[Autotune]

Sundawg: Trakanon's agro radius has increased

Go sit in your corner. you are on timeout for stupidity.

bwahahaha :)


I hope you're FE's bottom of the barrel.

[maverixdamighty]

bwahahaha :)


I hope you're FE's bottom of the barrel.

i hope you are the top in your special ed classes.

[Autotune]

i hope you are the top in your special ed classes.

ITT: maverixdamighty thinks in aggro range = on aggro list.

[maverixdamighty]

ITT: maverixdamighty thinks in aggro range = on aggro list.

itt stealin proves he doesn't play here, has no idea what's going on, and can't read!

[Autotune]

if you could learn to read i said once trak passes that corner now and you have LOS y ou have agro. has nothing to do with the ae moron. you should quit posting as well as playing it seems.

Pretty easy to understand.

[maverixdamighty]

itt stealin proves he doesn't play here, has no idea what's going on, and can't read!

next time trak pops, if we haven't killed him before tmo shows up, have one of your buddies agro him past the corner with you sitting on poop mountain and see what happens. until then go back to your sandbox.

[Autotune]

next time trak pops, if we haven't killed him before tmo shows up, have one of your buddies agro him past the corner with you sitting on poop mountain and see what happens. until then go back to your sandbox.

I already know what will happen, it's the same with every other mob in the game (atm).

Trakanon will be in los of me and i'll not have aggro, because my "buddy" will have aggro.

[maverixdamighty]

Pretty easy to understand.

ya it is easy to understand. if you are on poop mountain and trak comes around the corner he is going to agro you. you dense?

[maverixdamighty]

I already know what will happen, it's the same with every other mob in the game (atm).

Trakanon will be in los of me and i'll not have aggro, because my "buddy" will have aggro.

what happens wh en your buddy dies einstein?

[maverixdamighty]

feel free to quote me anywhere i said you would jump up to the top of the agro list by getting his agro? Good luck finding that, but fact remains you will be agro on him and once that person dies he comes to the hill. GG.

[Autotune]

ya it is easy to understand. if you are on poop mountain and trak comes around the corner he is going to agro you. you dense?

Trak comes around the corner = Trak is aggro'd on someone and following him.

Trak has aggro entire time he is around the corner = no one else is on the aggro list.

Trak goes back into his lair = you just got in los of trak and did not get aggro.


You're welcome for the lesson. It makes me happy to educate the less fortunate.

[maverixdamighty]

Trak comes around the corner = Trak is aggro'd on someone and following him.

Trak has aggro entire time he is around the corner = no one else is on the aggro list.

Trak goes back into his lair = you just got in los of trak and did not get aggro.


You're welcome for the lesson. It makes me happy to educate the less fortunate.

trak comes around corner and rapes your buddy.

trak for split second has no agro.

trak sees raid force up on hill and agroes them,

you're welcome for the lesson.

[Autotune]

feel free to quote me anywhere i said you would jump up to the top of the agro list by getting his agro? Good luck finding that, but fact remains you will be agro on him and once that person dies he comes to the hill. GG.

Wrong, you won't gain aggro until after your buddy dies (if you are still in los).

You already said that your raid had acquired aggro, when they didn't, as it clearly shows in the fraps.

You can try to imply whatever you want, but all of your quotes already indicate you're a moron. Change up all you want.

[Autotune]

trak comes around corner and rapes your buddy.

trak for split second has no agro.

trak sees raid force up on hill and agroes them,

you're welcome for the lesson.

So now you agree with me, glad you learned something new today.

[maverixdamighty]

So now you agree with me, glad you learned something new today.

i don't agree with you. we got agro because those noobs died right in front of us before we had time to get out of agro range.

[maverixdamighty]

also btw, i'm not expecting nor would i want loot from this trak (like tmo did when a similar situation happened to them). Everyone knows the new agro radius and if you stay on that hill and there is a wipe you are going to get agro most likely.

[Autotune]

trak was agro from your fail attepmt. no other way to spin it once he passes that corner he is agro at poop hill.

It wasnt about a gamble. We ALL got hit by the AE, and agro of Trak was dropped on us. Attempting to log off amidst Traks AE is suicide.
Oh, is that what happened? :rolleyes:

If your guild didn't train our raid to begin with, we would have killed Trak. You don't think it's obvious when your entire raid prepares opposite of the ledge and you have two people in TMO peering around the corner before you have the numbers to even engage? Then suddenly Trak trains on top of our entire raid... Anything after that fact is moot. Your entire raid should be suspended for that bullshit. Congrats on getting away with YET another train.

Also, good job trying to steal Sev on our engage. I'm sure your guild has already entered 10 petitions crying about it.

Pathetic.
If TMO engaged trak with 12, and then subsequently trained trakanon out of the lair into the FE raid force, why is TMO not suspended? Especially with a GM eyewitness.....and fraps to prove that trak was trained out fo the lair.

FROM ROGAEN CONCERNING GLOBAL SERVER RULES:

Training
Training can be defined as the intentional manipulation of NPC Placement and Aggro in such a way that causes it to attack another player that it wouldn't have otherwise if at it's normal spawn location. The most basic form of this is "dumping" mobs near another player or party and escaping via a form of teleportation or death. Intentional or not, this is against the rules. This rule is not limited to the basic example given, as there are many different forms of training players will use. You take all responsibility for mobs that you aggro. If you are trying to escape from a pack of NPC's but there is another group in your way, do not run through them. Even if your intention is not to train them, it would inevitable cause this and you may be subject to disciplinary. It is recommended that you take the death (Your responsibility for aggroing the mobs) and request a resurrection from nearby players.

If you happen to accidentally train a group of players, please immedietely notify the staff via /petition that you have done so by accident. Apologize to the players in question, and assist them with any recovery needed. If the staff hears about your train before you tell them, intention is no longer an excuse. (Repeated unintentional trains will still result in disciplinary action).

source: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

From the evidence gathered so far, tmo was responsible for trakanon + juggs that trained FE.

TMO had Trakanon "engaged" (they actually engaged protector and led trakanon around the corner to agro FE raid force) and subsequently trained another raid force with the mob during the engage.

These facts havent been in question. TMO agroed trakanon first and a raid force was trained as a result of their agro.

I made sure to bold everywhere you and your members were clueless on how aggro mechanics work and where you lied about where trakanon was.

After I enlightened your other members about how they were wrong, they then told me it wasn't about "being on the agro list" (when it was by their previous posts) it was about not being able to log out (which the fraps actually shows them having plenty of time to los trak and log).

trak never went to your raid force, your force went to trak. Trak was never aggrod on your raid force, your raid force aggro'd trak.

^still true.

[maverixdamighty]

I made sure to bold everywhere you and your members were clueless on how aggro mechanics work and where you lied about where trakanon was.

After I enlightened your other members about how they were wrong, they then told me it wasn't about "being on the agro list" (when it was by their previous posts) it was about not being able to log out (which the fraps actually shows them having plenty of time to los trak and log).



^still true.

spin away. fact is you guys dropped trak where he would agro us. was our own fault doesn't change the facts.

[Autotune]

The only thing you might have is that Helicopter gained aggro after someone dropped it, but there is no fraps (yet) to indicate who trained helicopter (or if anyone did).

[Autotune]

spin away. fact is you guys dropped trak where he would agro us. was our own fault doesn't change the facts.

Spinning? it's in the fraps and the aggro mechanics.

[maverixdamighty]

Spinning? it's in the fraps and the aggro mechanics.

so again tmo failed raid dies and members run out of lair and die within LOS of poop hill, but you feel if we had just sat there and camped we would have not had agro? got it!

[Autotune]

so again tmo failed raid dies and members run out of lair and die within LOS of poop hill, but you feel if we had just sat there and camped we would have not had agro? got it!

All you had to do is walk to one side or the other of poop hill and then camp, had more than enough time to do it (every fraps shows this).

I mean, when you're at the entrance of KC and you see a train coming, do you just stand there like a fucking moron and wait to die then petition? This is the exact same thing as what you and your guild have been saying (except Option, he actually told the guild to log out in one of the fraps).

Or how about when another guild kills CT and runs back to northwall to camp train aggro, do you just stand around as the other guild waiting to get trained so you can petition? Exact same thing.

If a GM was present, I'm sure they could have easily /assist trak to see who pulled trak down the path and could ban/suspend them for possibly training Heli (who actually just ran out into the open for whatever reason to grab aggro, learn to go under the water to LOS yo).

Unless Helicopter is your "entire raid force", your "entire raid force" didn't get trained.

Bad decisions and play calling cost your raid that target, not trakanon following and killing 1-2 people on his aggro list.

[maverixdamighty]

All you had to do is walk to one side or the other of poop hill and then camp, had more than enough time to do it (every fraps shows this).

I mean, when you're at the entrance of KC and you see a train coming, do you just stand there like a fucking moron and wait to die then petition? This is the exact same thing as what you and your guild have been saying (except Option, he actually told the guild to log out in one of the fraps).

Or how about when another guild kills CT and runs back to northwall to camp train aggro, do you just stand around as the other guild waiting to get trained so you can petition? Exact same thing.

If a GM was present, I'm sure they could have easily /assist trak to see who pulled trak down the path and could ban/suspend them for possibly training Heli (who actually just ran out into the open for whatever reason to grab aggro, learn to go under the water to LOS yo).

Unless Helicopter is your "entire raid force", your "entire raid force" didn't get trained.

Bad decisions and play calling cost your raid that target, not trakanon following and killing 1-2 people on his aggro list.

when you are at the entrance of kc do you get hit with ae's and it's possible to die before you even hit 30 seconds to camp? great analogy einstein.

[Autotune]

I'm 100% positive your guild called to engage, when they should have called to camp, because you believed that your raid gained aggro from LoS+AEs.

[Autotune]

when you are at the entrance of kc do you get hit with ae's and it's possible to die before you even hit 30 seconds to camp? great analogy einstein.

do you guys normally do Trakanon without clerics? Exactly, stfu.

[maverixdamighty]

do you guys normally do Trakanon without clerics? Exactly, stfu.

wtf does that have to do with anything people were just loading in not grouped etc. apparently you guys try trak with no clerics and 12 ppl and die miserably then agro it onto the other raid force though.

[maverixdamighty]

I'm 100% positive your guild called to engage, when they should have called to camp, because you believed that your raid gained aggro from LoS+AEs.

you are right engage was called. we would have had agro from trak regardless.

[Autotune]

wtf does that have to do with anything people were just loading in not grouped etc. apparently you guys try trak with no clerics and 12 ppl and die miserably then agro it onto the other raid force though.

See, you can't help but spread wrong information. You had one person that was possibly trained and your guild spent over 1min 30secs just chilling watching trakanon run around while not even attempting to reduce your AE deaths.

Again, bad calls = caused you to lose a target. Stop blaming another guild for shit you could have easily avoided.

[maverixdamighty]

See, you can't help but spread wrong information. You had one person that was possibly trained and your guild spent over 1min 30secs just chilling watching trakanon run around while not even attempting to reduce your AE deaths.

Again, bad calls = caused you to lose a target. Stop blaming another guild for shit you could have easily avoided.

when you actually have done trak post patch come back and talk. until then please refrain from talking about what you don't know just makes you look ignorant.

[Autotune]

when you actually have done trak post patch come back and talk. until then please refrain from talking about what you don't know just makes you look ignorant.

Perhaps if you all weren't newbing it up left and right (both sides) you wouldn't have such problems.

Trakanon now aggros from further away, now impossible (for scrubs).

[maverixdamighty]

Perhaps if you all weren't newbing it up left and right (both sides) you wouldn't have such problems.

Trakanon now aggros from further away, now impossible (for scrubs).

we've killed him more post patch than your former guild, scrub.

[baramur]

All you had to do is walk to one side or the other of poop hill and then camp, had more than enough time to do it (every fraps shows this).

I mean, when you're at the entrance of KC and you see a train coming, do you just stand there like a fucking moron and wait to die then petition? This is the exact same thing as what you and your guild have been saying (except Option, he actually told the guild to log out in one of the fraps).

Or how about when another guild kills CT and runs back to northwall to camp train aggro, do you just stand around as the other guild waiting to get trained so you can petition? Exact same thing.

If a GM was present, I'm sure they could have easily /assist trak to see who pulled trak down the path and could ban/suspend them for possibly training Heli (who actually just ran out into the open for whatever reason to grab aggro, learn to go under the water to LOS yo).

Unless Helicopter is your "entire raid force", your "entire raid force" didn't get trained.

Bad decisions and play calling cost your raid that target, not trakanon following and killing 1-2 people on his aggro list.
the while fucking point is we shoukdnt have to do anything. Tmo pulked trak out of his lair and it agros one of us and wipes our raid. How fucking hard is that to understand. If tmo doesn't pull trak out of lair we dont fucking wipe, just like last time where we owned him because we engaged before tmo coukd log on and Fuck us.

[Autotune]

we've killed him more post patch than your former guild, scrub.

This some kinda boast? You killed the same trakanon every one else has for the past year+. He doesn't hit harder, his spells don't hit harder, he doesn't attack faster, nor move faster or have any new moves... He simply aggros from further away.


I've killed trakanon going up against the toughest competition the server has probably ever seen or will see... you killed trakanon with an aggro range of 10 instead of 8 (/golfclap).

[maverixdamighty]

This some kinda boast? You killed the same trakanon every one else has for the past year+. He doesn't hit harder, his spells don't hit harder, he doesn't attack faster, nor move faster or have any new moves... He simply aggros from further away.


I've killed trakanon going up against the toughest competition the server has probably ever seen or will see... you killed trakanon with an aggro range of 10 instead of 8 (/golfclap).

congrats, you quit, go away. *golf clap*

[Autotune]

the while fucking point is we shoukdnt have to do anything. Tmo pulked trak out of his lair and it agros one of us and wipes our raid. How fucking hard is that to understand. If tmo doesn't pull trak out of lair we dont fucking wipe, just like last time where we owned him because we engaged before tmo coukd log on and Fuck us.

All the fraps indicate otherwise (even your own). You chose to engage trakanon, trakanon didn't engage your raid.

[baramur]

the while fucking point is we shoukdnt have to do anything. Tmo pulked trak out of his lair and it agros one of us and wipes our raid. How fucking hard is that to understand. If tmo doesn't pull trak out of lair we dont fucking wipe, just like last time where we owned him because we engaged before tmo coukd log on and Fuck us.

Oh and your wrong if you kill ct and you pull the mobs back to north wall training another raid you get suspended for training. Die with fucking honor and not run to other raids to Fuck them over, and no I'm not mad, just frustrated you dumbasses can't seem to grasp that concept.

[Autotune]

Also, by your standpoint, I should be able to stand in the way of trains in KC and petition people all day long.

[maverixdamighty]

All the fraps indicate otherwise (even your own). You chose to engage trakanon, trakanon didn't engage your raid.

ever heard of a preemptive strike? Look it up.

[baramur]

Autotune you obviousely don't know how the new agro range of trak is

[Autotune]

Oh and your wrong if you kill ct and you pull the mobs back to north wall training another raid you get suspended for training. Die with fucking honor and not run to other raids to Fuck them over, and no I'm not mad, just frustrated you dumbasses can't seem to grasp that concept.

So the new tactic, from FE, is to run towards where people are camping out so that a guild can't properly camp out and not have to wipe or drag corpses from a train?

I hope this gets employed against your guild if you ever manage to kill CT.

[maverixdamighty]

Autotune you obviousely don't know how the new agro range of trak is

he is going to start talking about velious encounters too that aren't even in game, but he understand how they will work on p99. wait for it!

[Autotune]

Autotune you obviousely don't know how the new agro range of trak is

It's not a difficult concept to grasp, it's big, I get it buddy. Your guild is making a mountain out of a pebble.

[Autotune]

ever heard of a preemptive strike? Look it up.

if by preemptive strike (FE term) you mean do something fucking stupid, I suppose I don't have to look it up.

[baramur]

Also, by your standpoint, I should be able to stand in the way of trains in KC and petition people all day long.

Ya you could, its still the responsibility of the person with aggro not to train others.

[maverixdamighty]

It's not a difficult concept to grasp, it's big, I get it buddy. Your guild is making a mountain out of a pebble.

yet your guild is the one coming to boards and crying once again. got it.

[Autotune]

Ya you could, its still the responsibility of the person with aggro not to train others.

It's also your responsibility to look after your own well being, not the GMs. Stop reaching for GMs to carry you.

[maverixdamighty]

It's also your responsibility to look after your own well being, not the GMs. Stop reaching for GMs to carry you.

yet you guys petitioned the same thing a week ago. you should quit posting.

[baramur]

I know its Fe fault tmo wiped and pulled trak out of lair.

[Autotune]

yet your guild is the one coming to boards and crying once again. got it.

I don't care, if someone from TMO is crying about the aggro range increase, they are a scrub too.

[Autotune]

yet you guys petitioned the same thing a week ago. you should quit posting.

lemme see the fraps on that one.

[maverixdamighty]

lemme see the fraps on that one.

go look it up it's on these forums

[Autotune]

I know its Fe fault tmo wiped and pulled trak out of lair.

Now you're just being a debbie downer.

[Autotune]

go look it up it's on these forums

you referenced it, i'm not searching for it and if it's like anything else you've tried to pass off as truth I'm not gonna take your word for it.

[maverixdamighty]

you referenced it, i'm not searching for it and if it's like anything else you've tried to pass off as truth I'm not gonna take your word for it.

then keep speaking ignorantly. you've been doing it this whole time why stop now.

[Autotune]

then keep speaking ignorantly. you've been doing it this whole time why stop now.

Show me anything I've said to be untrue.

[maverixdamighty]

Show me anything I've said to be untrue.

didn't say if it was true/untrue said you are ignorant of what happened.

[Autotune]

didn't say if it was true/untrue said you are ignorant of what happened.

In hindsight certain calls could have definitely been made better, I do not disagree with that at all Stealin.

Seems I have your guild leader on my side.

[Autotune]

TMO, BTW, has had Trakanon trained toward them at the exact same spot (actually on top of the mountain once I know) and we were able to los/camp and still get the kills. This also applied to CT where the other raids wiped and we camped to avoid trains, not sat there waiting to be wiped so we could petition.

You had one person trained (benefit of the doubt) and your entire raid sat there taking AEs and then after 1-2mins finally engaged and died.

I'm telling you how to do it better and you're giving me reasons why you can't/didn't/couldn't/wouldn't/etc.

[maverixdamighty]

TMO, BTW, has had Trakanon trained toward them at the exact same spot (actually on top of the mountain once I know) and we were able to los/camp and still get the kills. This also applied to CT where the other raids wiped and we camped to avoid trains, not sat there waiting to be wiped so we could petition.

You had one person trained (benefit of the doubt) and your entire raid sat there taking AEs and then after 1-2mins finally engaged and died.

I'm telling you how to do it better and you're giving me reasons why you can't/didn't/couldn't/wouldn't/etc.

ignorance is bliss.

[Autotune]

ignorance is bliss.

You continue to prove it.

[maverixdamighty]

You continue to prove it.

i killed trakanon once with a level 70 so certainly must be the same situation right stealin?

[Autotune]

i killed trakanon once with a level 70 so certainly must be the same situation right stealin?

Now you're just being irrational and silly.

[maverixdamighty]

Now you're just being irrational and silly.

yet you are bringing up tmo kills prior to the patch and change, sounds similar.

[Autotune]

yet you are bringing up tmo kills prior to the patch and change, sounds similar.

No. I've watched you kill Trakanon from a fraps Eccezan wanted me to watch. You engaged and killed Trakanon exactly like TMO did in the past.

[maverixdamighty]

No. I've watched you kill Trakanon from a fraps Eccezan wanted me to watch. You engaged and killed Trakanon exactly like TMO did in the past.

so you didn't see a fraps of the poop mountain trains that tmo petitioned us for but are talking about them? That's all I needed to know, i'm done.

[Autotune]

so you didn't see a fraps of the poop mountain trains that tmo petitioned us for but are talking about them? That's all I needed to know, i'm done.

There was no poop mountain train in that fraps, it was your guild logging in and killing the dragon. Why are you so fucking stupid 100% of the time?

[Godefroi]

Eccezan fraps every trakanon ?

jeez lol.

[maverixdamighty]

There was no poop mountain train in that fraps, it was your guild logging in and killing the dragon. Why are you so fucking stupid 100% of the time?

there is fraps of what your guild claimed was corova training, once again ignorant. it's hurting my head how bad at this you are.

[Autotune]

Eccezan fraps every trakanon ?

jeez lol.

Don't think he fraps'd it, he requested I look at it.

[Autotune]

there is fraps of what your guild claimed was corova training, once again ignorant. it's hurting my head how bad at this you are.

Okay, do you think I sit around watching every fucking fraps that you nerds create?

I just told you I was asked to watch a fraps, not asked to watch every fraps.

Again, why are you so fucking stupid 100% of the time?

[maverixdamighty]

Okay, do you think I sit around watching every fucking fraps that you nerds create?

I just told you I was asked to watch a fraps, not asked to watch every fraps.

Again, why are you so fucking stupid 100% of the time?

then don't talk about what you don't know, which you are doing over and over moron.

[Autotune]

then don't talk about what you don't know, which you are doing over and over moron.

I've not said anything about corova or TMO getting trained.

Why are you?

[maverixdamighty]

I've not said anything about corova or TMO getting trained.

Why are you?

because it's the same situation with the agro that you have no clue about. why didn't tmo all camp out there?

[Autotune]

because it's the same situation with the agro that you have no clue about. why didn't tmo all camp out there?

IDK, because someone made a stupid fucking call or they actually got trained with actual mobs?

Are you fucking retarded or something? I'm pretty sure you are and I feel bad now arguing with you.

[maverixdamighty]

IDK, because someone made a stupid fucking call or they actually got trained with actual mobs?

Are you fucking retarded or something? I'm pretty sure you are and I feel bad now arguing with you.

so they got trained now, but we didn't or wouldn't have. are you alarti's long lost brother?

[Autotune]

so they got trained now, but we didn't or wouldn't have. are you alarti's long lost brother?

Show me where Trakanon follows anyone from TMO and then aggros on your raid and kills them?

Oh wait you can't, because it didn't happen. What did happen? Your guild stood and got AE'd for minutes and then put yourselves on his aggro list by engaging him.

[maverixdamighty]

Show me where Trakanon follows anyone from TMO and then aggros on your raid and kills them?

Oh wait you can't, because it didn't happen. What did happen? Your guild stood and got AE'd for minutes and then put yourselves on his aggro list by engaging him.

i don't fraps i was there so i know what happened as opposed to you.

[Autotune]

i don't fraps i was there so i know what happened as opposed to you.

That's your problem not mine.

I'm commenting on what your guild has posted, not the stories that you tell. If perhaps you all didn't fabricate so much that contradicts the fraps that you post yourselves, maybe someone would actually believe what you say.

Even if Trak was trained on someone, it was one FE member and not your entire raid (I've said this before I'm sure). So you had one person trained and then engaged Trakanon after he killed Helicopter (or whatever) and aggroed on TMO who had juggs.

The fabricated story you all came here and started telling was that Trakanon was dragged to poop mountain and dropped on to your raid force causing you to wipe. Your Fraps shows you running to engage Trakanon, your guild wiped itself.

[maverixdamighty]

That's your problem not mine.

I'm commenting on what your guild has posted, not the stories that you tell. If perhaps you all didn't fabricate so much that contradicts the fraps that you post yourselves, maybe someone would actually believe what you say.

Even if Trak was trained on someone, it was one FE member and not your entire raid (I've said this before I'm sure). So you had one person trained and then engaged Trakanon after he killed Helicopter (or whatever) and aggroed on TMO who had juggs.

The fabricated story you all came here and started telling was that Trakanon was dragged to poop mountain and dropped on to your raid force causing you to wipe. Your Fraps shows you running to engage Trakanon, your guild wiped itself.

no one said that. people said once he turns the corner he is going to come to poop mountain which is correct. get your head out of your own @ss.

[Autotune]

no one said that. people said once he turns the corner he is going to come to poop mountain which is correct. get your head out of your own @ss.

there are so many quotes from your guild members that prove you incorrect yet again.

[maverixdamighty]

there are so many quotes from your guild members that prove you incorrect yet again.

no one said it was dragged to poop mountain we said we got ae'd on the ledge and would have gotten agro regardless had we not chosen to engage. keep being ignorant.

[KentalCowtipper]

Stealin maybe if they ever try to raid in VP they'll come to realize the agro mechanics behind AoE. AoE does not = agro durp.
All i see here is a bunch of FE whining after a GM watched the entire encounter and then suspended several of their members.

[maverixdamighty]

Stealin maybe if they ever try to raid in VP they'll come to realize the agro mechanics behind AoE. AoE does not = agro durp.
All i see here is a bunch of FE whining after a GM watched the entire encounter and then suspended several of their members.

Another inbred. How many tmo got suspended derp

[Alarti0001]

*Desperation, that angry you type too fast outta rage?

I'll get my epic and not from your 750 kpp MQs that you RMT to buy more shitty XXL leather jackets to hide your fat :D

Why do you try to hunt everyone down in Real life over a game you crazy fuck. Fucking weird ass stalker. Chill out its just a game.

[Alarti0001]

Another inbred. How many tmo got suspended derp

None.

[Tiggles]

*Desperation, that angry you type too fast outta rage?

I'll get my epic and not from your 750 kpp MQs that you RMT to buy more shitty XXL leather jackets to hide your fat :D

it's 800k now for you.

and it goes up 1k for every post you make in RnF.

Keep it up.

[KentalCowtipper]

Stealin maybe if they ever try to raid in VP they'll come to realize the agro mechanics behind AoE. AoE does not = agro durp.
All i see here is a bunch of FE whining after a GM watched the entire encounter and then suspended several of their members.

[maverixdamighty]

PS lots of aoe mobs outside VP derp

[Ele]

Also, in regards to Helicopter...

Helicopter dies because all the juggs run at him. They do this after killing and summoning quite a few TMO. They have no problem getting to him. The reason he dies is because they get him low HP and Prot summons him.

Helicopter was on the aggro list of the juggs the whole time. Why was he not being summoned instead of TMO if he was bugging them out? Why is Trak killing TMO if he is chasing Helicopter? In order for Helicopter to be bugging him out, he would have to be first on the hate list of either...which is clearly not the case.

The only way this could be the case is if TMO is continously getting low hp agro and pinging him back. Seeing as Prot summons him the second he hits low hp, this is highly doubtful. Even if this is the case, however, how on earth are you trying to throw all possible blame on someone from another guild that is on the agro list of a mob that YOUR GUILD ENGAGED who is attempting to avoid YOUR ENGAGE by getting distance from a mob that was not his guilds engage?

I would think that if you were trying to engage trak, your warriors would hold agro on Trak...wouldnt you?

Keep talking and proving you have no idea how the game mechanics work.

[Godefroi]

Why do you try to hunt everyone down in Real life over a game you crazy fuck. Fucking weird ass stalker. Chill out its just a game.

You need to relax pal and stop freaking out, it's just a game and nobody is hunting anyone :D

When you are a cunt, people snitch on you, that's all.

[Godefroi]

it's 800k now for you.

and it goes up 1k for every post you make in RnF.

Keep it up.

I'll get my bile with DKP

thank you though mobidick

[maverixdamighty]

Keep talking and proving you have no idea how the game mechanics work.

You guys have claimed we trained ourselves and that you engaged and failed. Make up your mind

[Tiggles]

I'll get my bile with DKP

thank you though mobidick

801k

[AenarieFenninRo]

When you are a cunt, people snitch on you, that's all.

Snitches get Stitches!

[Godefroi]

801k

http://www.lolwow.com/pictures/2008/6/7581212459757.jpg

;)

[Metallikus]

Stealin keeps overlooking one key element in his argument. TMO claims fte on trakanon, yet trakanon is trained out of the lair onto FE camp where it AEs them several times. IF TMO has FTE on trakanon, why is trakanon trained out of the lair and not engaged?

[maverixdamighty]

Stealin keeps overlooking one key element in his argument. TMO claims fte on trakanon, yet trakanon is trained out of the lair onto FE camp where it AEs them several times. IF TMO has FTE on trakanon, why is trakanon trained out of the lair and not engaged?

we should have camped out while getting ae'd repeatedly man!

[Mortiiss]

Stealin keeps overlooking one key element in his argument. TMO claims fte on trakanon, yet trakanon is trained out of the lair onto FE camp where it AEs them several times. IF TMO has FTE on trakanon, why is trakanon trained out of the lair and not engaged?

Yup. Makes sense, right? Lol.

This is common, by the way.

[Metallikus]

Here is my theory after reatching Ele's fraps.

TMO was counting on trak to run directly to the shrooms while they engaged protector + 2 or 3 juggs and were just gonna wait for trak to come back to lair when their full force was ready and logged in.

Nietche saw trak at ledge corner (cuz helicopter tagged it off the non DA'd shroomer) and tagged it and ran across the water toward shrooms bugging out trak around the ledge AEing.

Sounds plausible to me. According to tmo guild chat, they expected to engage protector, but freaked out when they saw trakanon had not gone directly to shrooms thru the wall. They said nothing about trying to engage trak and why it wasnt in the lair, they were more freaked out that he was close to the lair instead of being trained out.

[Tanthallas]

Stealin you are being dumb and playing semantics.

Sure, aggro was not passed until the person who had agro was dead...however there was no possible way to move the raid force anywhere that could feasibly be outside of Trak's new increased agro range...

Not to mention the juggs being dropped right on us as well...

[Mortiiss]

Here is my theory after reatching Ele's fraps.

TMO was counting on trak to run directly to the shrooms while they engaged protector + 2 or 3 juggs and were just gonna wait for trak to come back to lair when their full force was ready and logged in.

Nietche saw trak at ledge corner (cuz helicopter tagged it off the non DA'd shroomer) and tagged it and ran across the water toward shrooms bugging out trak around the ledge AEing.

Sounds plausible to me. According to tmo guild chat, they expected to engage protector, but freaked out when they saw trakanon had not gone directly to shrooms thru the wall. They said nothing about trying to engage trak and why it wasnt in the lair, they were more freaked out that he was close to the lair instead of being trained out.

Well when you get out-mobilized you gotta do something to that "guild that will never see an actual raid target" you know? I thought it was amusing, personally.

[cyryllis]

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Yeah show me where guild chat shows that you dumb cunt

[fishingme]

yikes, read original page tl:dr the read of the thread. But arguing because of a train when someone was draggin a corpse? Nut the fuck up pussies.

[Autotune]

Stealin keeps overlooking one key element in his argument. TMO claims fte on trakanon, yet trakanon is trained out of the lair onto FE camp where it AEs them several times. IF TMO has FTE on trakanon, why is trakanon trained out of the lair and not engaged?

TMO could have FTE in 2 spots, the very beginning and/or after helicopter dies.

Stealin you are being dumb and playing semantics.

Sure, aggro was not passed until the person who had agro was dead...however there was no possible way to move the raid force anywhere that could feasibly be outside of Trak's new increased agro range...

Not to mention the juggs being dropped right on us as well...

There are several ways to move out of LOS, regardless of how large his range is and as i've said before, your raid force on poop mountain didn't have aggro until you engaged.

[Godefroi]

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Yeah show me where guild chat shows that you dumb cunt

It was all over the board you simple mind.

[maverixdamighty]

TMO could have FTE in 2 spots, the very beginning and/or after helicopter dies.



There are several ways to move out of LOS, regardless of how large his range is and as i've said before, your raid force on poop mountain didn't have aggro until you engaged.

you can keep saying it doesn't make it true. soon as every tmo in zone had died he was coming for us.

[Eccezan]

It was all over the board you simple mind.

http://www.godammit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/stop-being-a-cunt.jpg

[Autotune]

you can keep saying it doesn't make it true. soon as every tmo in zone had died he was coming for us.

ur dumb.

[Godefroi]

Mister rusty taco lover is all over me :D

[maverixdamighty]

ur dumb.

you're ignorant.

[Rhambuk]

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4894545574953683&pid=15.1

No, no thats ignorant, hee heeeee Chumonga!

[cyryllis]

sorry guys after going back over the evidence I was wrong. I will bow out of the thread now =(

http://i.imgur.com/TKvSvOL.jpg?1

[Scowlie]

Stealin keeps overlooking one key element in his argument. TMO claims fte on trakanon, yet trakanon is trained out of the lair onto FE camp where it AEs them several times. IF TMO has FTE on trakanon, why is trakanon trained out of the lair and not engaged?

They aren't overlooking it, they're selective reading and purposely ignoring it. They don't actually care about the rules, all they are here for is trolling.

Whether they had called an engage or not is irrelevant, what they did is the definition of training. Intentional or not, people have been suspended for doing the same exact thing. The fraps we submit is pretty evident of Cyranos and others dropping Trakanon on top of our raid.

[Tiggles]

we should have camped out while getting ae'd repeatedly man!

should of just packed it up and left.

[Nirgon]

FE get a whiff of that now almost classic Trakanon?

http://i.imgur.com/hIb1wQT.gif

[Eccezan]

Theres a reason your camp spot wasnt used in classic nubs.

[Nirgon]

Theres a reason your camp spot wasnt used in classic nubs.

http://i.imgur.com/hIb1wQT.gif

[Alarti0001]

FE get a whiff of that now almost classic Trakanon?

http://i.imgur.com/hIb1wQT.gif

Still not quite there but closer!

[Nirgon]

Rune shouldn't prevent him from life tapping (doesn't appear it does).

It's a 45 second cooldown 0.0 CAST for Trak. Need to get that fixed imo if its not poppin' off.

Runes only block innate procs like VS tap.

Shit's classic. See me.

[Tiggles]

Rune shouldn't prevent him from life tapping (doesn't appear it does).

It's a 45 second cooldown 0.0 CAST for Trak. Need to get that fixed imo if its not poppin' off.

Runes only block innate procs like VS tap.

Shit's classic. See me.

agreed

[Tanthallas]

Here is my theory after reatching Ele's fraps.

TMO was counting on trak to run directly to the shrooms while they engaged protector + 2 or 3 juggs and were just gonna wait for trak to come back to lair when their full force was ready and logged in.

Nietche saw trak at ledge corner (cuz helicopter tagged it off the non DA'd shroomer) and tagged it and ran across the water toward shrooms bugging out trak around the ledge AEing.

Sounds plausible to me. According to tmo guild chat, they expected to engage protector, but freaked out when they saw trakanon had not gone directly to shrooms thru the wall. They said nothing about trying to engage trak and why it wasnt in the lair, they were more freaked out that he was close to the lair instead of being trained out.

This would probably not have much weight were it not for the fact that TMO was in the lair killing Protector.

The only reason to kill Protector during this fiasco is because they expected Trak to not be in the lair. This causes other problems for their 'engage' on Trak however, because they cannot simultanously claim that they were engaging Trak...

I really cant think of any rational reason for 2-3 groups of TMO to be on Prot amidst all this other than that.

[Tanthallas]

So;

1. TMO fights Prot because they are aware Trak will not be in lair;
2. TMO claims Helicopter pulled Trak out of lair;
3. Helicopter = TMO.

I think I figured it out guys.

[Autotune]

So;

1. TMO fights Prot because they are aware Trak will not be in lair;
2. TMO claims Helicopter pulled Trak out of lair;
3. Helicopter = Daliant.

I think I figured it out guys.

Why didn't I see this before!?

[Tiggles]

Why didn't I see this before!?

explains the autofire

[Happyfeet]

It's all because we knew the exact spawn time of Trak, again.

[Tanthallas]

No time machine involved this time.

[Nirgon]

agreed

You guys go make the bug report. I'm good on death threats for this month.

[Nirgon]

Oh yeah should be 0.0 sec cast that goes off rune or no rune, casts that after a melee round or so of breathing.

[Tiggles]

You guys go make the bug report. I'm good on death threats for this month.

It's only the 4th....


Nigron you are doing gods work anything that makes Trakanon harder as TMOs approval

(because FE can't kill him normally half the time anyway)

[kenzar]

(because FE can't kill him normally half the time anyway)

Funny, at one point the same could be said for TMO. Now look at 'em.

[Nirgon]

I was sent letters saying they had my sister, I ignored them, they sent me a finger, I told them I didn't have a sister. So, they've then resorted to their old tactics of linking spell changes from 2004-2006 when the system was revamped (and broken all over) for PoP.

Lol @ necro heal. "Is now unresistable" and spells that were once 0 going from 0 to -150. You idiots ever heard of a default value in a database? 0? Unresistable? These values were moved from code source to being DB values (good coding practice).

[Nirgon]

PS: Please fix necro heal, I am abusing it to mana stone my brains out on my wizard.

^ Maybe this will convince people it isn't classic? HEEEEEEH.