MMOs: Past, Present, and Future

[That Deadeye Guy]

Hey folks,

Well the description for Server Chat is "General discussion related to Project 1999 and classic Everquest", so I figured it'd try to spur some discussion regarding a video I just made about MMOs and the genre itself. I mention Project 1999 / EverQuest pretty extensively and would love feedback and discussion regarding where the soul of particular style of game is heading.

https://youtu.be/5B_SvqtcUfQ

[That Deadeye Guy]

Hey, even Brad McQuaid stopped by to leave a comment!

[Evia]

I enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing!

[One Tin Soldier]

My belief is that both Camelot unchained and Crowfall have already failed by being PvP focused MMOs. Not that I personally have anything against PvP but it just never works well for MMOs.

As for Pantheon, it's basically project 99 with a subscription fee. Look at the population here. Now imagine what it would be if they started charging a subscription fee. Yeah, that's the kind of population Pantheon can look forward to. Maybe not right away but after the honeymoon period is over.

[Lhancelot]

Nice video thanks for posting it here. I hope pantheon is a successful and fun game. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can already tell by how they're prioritizing the most ridiculous and unimportant things that socialites and members of their forums are asking for such as to ensure there's a female version of all races

Wait, so you think the way for Pantheon to succeed is to exclude half their possible player-base? I mean admittedly there are more male gamers than females, but then a good chunk of male gamers like female avatars, so half seems about right.

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The other nail in the coffin will be itemization ... you'll get things like "Stack of Minor Illusion Flasks"

Wait, you think the "other nail" in Pantheon's coffin is that they have illusion potions, ie. completely meaningless flavor items, ie. the exact same thing as illusion masks on EverQuest, only not permanent? That is what you think will doom Pantheon?

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so you think the way for Pantheon to succeed is to exclude half their possible player-base? I mean admittedly there are more male gamers than females, but then a good chunk of male gamers like female avatars, so half seems about right.



Wait, you think the "other nail" in Pantheon's coffin is that they have illusion potions, ie. completely meaningless flavor items, ie. the exact same thing as illusion masks on EverQuest, only not permanent? That is what you think will doom Pantheon?

[Lojik]

Will the sequel be Fall of the Risen?

[Ennewi]

Feel of the Raisin?

[wittles]

Originally Posted by One Tin Soldier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My belief is that both Camelot unchained and Crowfall have already failed by being PvP focused MMOs. Not that I personally have anything against PvP but it just never works well for MMOs.

As for Pantheon, it's basically project 99 with a subscription fee. Look at the population here. Now imagine what it would be if they started charging a subscription fee. Yeah, that's the kind of population Pantheon can look forward to. Maybe not right away but after the honeymoon period is over.

I think pvp mmo's can work if they are implemented like EVE does theirs. Otherwise, I agree that it will just die.