PvP pnp policy clarification please (GMs, devs, guides?)

[Azure]

I feelers bad for Iccabod, guy is just trying to scrape it to 60 and everyone wants to be mean to them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[doughboy]

I don't think it violates the PNP to kill lowbies, but it sure isn't playing nice :P

Edit: Oh I didn't realize that this server had item loot. I think the wiki is outdated

[LulzSect]

pic related, its OP

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[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by LulzSect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pic related, its OP

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wtf?

[Softcore PK]

Don't be weird, Kimm.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fearing of a pet, OOR of it's master: Not allowed (or even possible?)
Fearing of a pet, in range of it's master: Allowed
Fearing of an NPC someone is fighting, player OOR of caster: Not allowed
Fearing of an NPC someone is fighting, player in range of caster: Allowed*
Fearing NPC's near PvP targets: Not allowed. I would say this is OK if you intend to engage the mob, but who opens with Fear? Just don't do it. If you train someone you might get b& b&.

As always, all other forms of training are against the rules.

*Be aware that if you're going to fear a mob someone is fighting, you are responsible for the trains that mob brings. So if you fear someones target in Seb and it goes tearing off and brings back 50 friends, that's your train and you could be subject to disciplinary action. And don't /petition to the staff when your opponent gates out and drops that train right on top of you.

If a pet draws a train after being feared, that's no ones fault. The reason why a feared pet bringing a train being OK, while a feared npc bringing one is NOT, is because when you have a pet up you are assuming a certain amount of risk while someone else is in the area. The same could be said for fighting NPC's, of course, but where fighting an NPC is a fundamental and necessary part of the game, using a pet is not. Use them when others are around at your own risk.

Please note that the above statement does not mean it is "ok" to train with pets - it's only provided here under a very specific set of circumstances. Don't go fearing your guildies' pets to drop a train on another guild and then get mad when you reference this post and get raid suspended anyway. I doubt this disclaimer needs to be here but I'd rather not take any chances.



We had rules against training prior to the PnP going in. And with the exception of Necros, the classes you listed are already at the top of the PvP food chain without needing to train. So, yes, we do want to ban for trains, and always have. Don't do it.

all these clarifications should be stickied and compiled on top

[Farzo]

LOL look at the /guild messages in the first pic - someone burning TMO on blue?

[Clark]

PnP not classic.

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PnP not classic.

This x100. Even players that have been playing here still cannot understand how LNS (or PnP) works, or worse yet--try to abuse PnP to support their anti-PK agenda and try to get notable PvPers banned from the server.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anti-PK agenda

Who told you about The Agenda? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]