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![]() I knew how to do frontal backstab in duels, but I never knew anyone who got it to work on mobs while solo'ing. I actually remember when they buffed Rogues by making backstabs from the front do some regular piercing damage, whereas before it didn't do anything. And then they later added an AA called Chaotic Stab which allowed Rogues to backstab from the albeit for less damage.
Hard to imagine they would have done either of these changes if rogues were already capable of backstabbing for full damage while solo'ing mobs. And again, I do know it worked in PVP as I did it somewhat frequently. But I also tried to do it on mobs daily, especially low level mobs when I was running through zones. I would target them from far away and try to frontal backstab them the way I did players when running by them and it never worked. Just curious if this was actually classic, or if it's just something that somehow got overlooked? | ||
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![]() you had to use a stun proc or do it versus a caster to do it reliably, ive heard of people getting one off by timing the server tick / mob direction facing just right by strafing through the npc's model though also.
so it's technically classic, it should have a 50/50 fail rate though to be classic in spirit. | ||
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![]() The mob behaviour for facings, etc was different, but it was possible with different techniques. It was less waiting for animations, more circle strafing and timing the button press.
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I guess the devs here don't know what spells each mob should cast though, so instead of giving each one a new random list, they just do the unclassic thing and let every caster mob cast every spell.
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![]() It’s a positioning thing and timing thing. Has nothing to do with how p99 devs tooled with the system.
If your rogue is outside the frontal 180 cone you can backstab. So after the mob swings there’s a tiny delay where they won’t move. After this swing, position to the side and backstab. Did this on live from 2000-2002. It’s just about getting good at the timing and position | ||
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![]() One thing is that internet connections weren't as solid back in 99-01. Pings on average would have been much higher based on client side connections but also the servers and the server load would have been less ideal than what we experience today. Combine that with less historic knowledge of game mechanics and it creates a scenario where this would have just been very rare behavior in era even with the game mechanics working identically it would really be something that only the most innovative players would have attempted and likely with a much lower success rate.
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I think the rotation is fairly limited so you're bound to see the same ones come back often and get some nasty sequences. | |||
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