I've never played World of Warcraft

[Swish]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bro are you kidding me

you can count the number of mechanics in an eq raid on 1 finger

even the FIRST wow raid had more than 1 mechanic, let alone anything after that

EQ is literally braindead simulator in terms of difficulty

99% of what you do in this game is auto attack or press 1 button on a 10 second cooldown.

in classic wow you still had a 1button rotation but atleast you couldnt actually literally stand there auto attacking like in eq

But which is better?

Eberron 60 Erudite Enchanter
Enjamin 60 Erudite Cleric
Yxarus 60 Iksar Warrior Retired
Fauvana 60 Erudite Necromancer
Erjav 60 Human Bard
Enjamini 60 Human Magician
Deepwalter 60 Erudite Paladin
Seliel 60 Human Rogue
Enjoii 54 Dark Elf Warrior

[magnetaress]

^ great post more in depth than me

[Evia]

Wow does a lot of things better than EQ. For example, quests.
What wow doesn't do as well, imho, is itemization. There are infinite amount of items you'll use leveling up that you will never remember.
Eq has iconic items that you can see without even having to inspect someone.

Outside of this, I truly do believe there isn't a single game that feels like EQ besides classic wow. If you can be OK with items not having any true value or meaning until raiding, I think it's a great alternative.

[magnetaress]

Selling junk in wow is a lot easier too. Wish takp had some of that QoL

[Old_PVP]

Classic WoW was a really fun game, full of many positives. There was a reason it had the highest subscription count at the time. Highest subscriptions ever perhaps?

The game was simplified with just the right amount of complexity to it. Only 2 teams, obviously. So right off the bat you knew who your enemies and allies were. Unlimited level range PVP which made it more of a team sport. Some of those zones were just hot spots for PVP and it was great fun. Battlegrounds made it even better, but also took away some of that organic world PVP at the same time, which wasn't good.

The quest system was a good way to make leveling more digestible for people who don't want to just mindlessly grind. It also allowed you to feel like you were making progress and completing zones. This inevitably took away some of that sense of adventure and "sandbox" feel though because quests would essentially handhold the player and tell them where to go next.

Overall, many QoL features like flight paths and auction houses, mailboxes, instance raiding, mounts, user friendliness which made it easy to lure friends in. Which were all probably good things.

[Ciderpress]

Speaking of CH chains, I always wonder if those were an intended mechanic or just an emergent thing by the playerbase trying to figure out how to kill bosses. Were the devs really thinking "Okay so, for them to kill this boss they'll have to get 20 clerics and have each of them start casting CH one second apart"? Cause that seems like a pretty specific thing to design on purpose.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of CH chains, I always wonder if those were an intended mechanic or just an emergent thing by the playerbase trying to figure out how to kill bosses. Were the devs really thinking "Okay so, for them to kill this boss they'll have to get 20 clerics and have each of them start casting CH one second apart"? Cause that seems like a pretty specific thing to design on purpose.

definitely not intended

[Trexller]

so then how the hell did they expect us to kill bosses

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so then how the hell did they expect us to kill bosses

i think by velious with the drastic increase in mob hp and dmg, they were aware of the CH chain thing

classic and kunark can be killed without CH, 32k hp mobs wizzies go boom boom

[Ciderpress]

I seem to remember there was some kind of technical limitation that held mobs at 32khp, and then in velious they were able to get around that limit so there are like 1mhp bosses. They could have just kept the dragons at 32k and made them proc something that manataps only clerics or whatever.

I can't remember how long after velious release it took for aow to first be killed, anyone know that?