Shammy - Barb vs Troll

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I have a barbarian and I regret it.

They are the best looking of the bunch, however, regen is an amazing ability and shouldn't be overstated.

Go troll and don't look back.

[Nagash]

Don't know if that would make you swing your decision (and I don't know first hand if it's a good piece of kit or not) but barbs are the only one who can use http://wiki.project1999.com/Barbaria...ist%60s_Hammer

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't know if that would make you swing your decision (and I don't know first hand if it's a good piece of kit or not) but barbs are the only one who can use http://wiki.project1999.com/Barbaria...ist%60s_Hammer

woot - wish i knew about this at 30 doh! would be a fun gimmick

[nilmerg]

Day 2 in the swamps. Life is unforgiving here. It's a strange, new land that I'm unfamiliar with. Luckily there are plenty of things to squish and squarsh. A bardic fellow attacked me unprovoked. Revenge will be had later on.

[Velerin]

Good thing about that bard is he is surrounded by random noob troll corpses so easy to spot from a distance when running around in the swamp.

[harnold]

Barb/Iksar suck

Its between troll for easier leveling or ogre for the best end game soloing for high plat items

[iruinedyourday]

Stun immunity doesn't mean you can solo anything that someone with stun immunity can't. You are wrong if you think so. If a stun prevents you from end game soloing you suck and shouldn't be trying to end game solo.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stun immunity doesn't mean you can solo anything that someone with stun immunity can't. You are wrong if you think so. If a stun prevents you from end game soloing you suck and shouldn't be trying to end game solo.

Totally. To be fair, stun immunity is more relevant in Velious, but not that relevant. If a Barbarian shaman has a 70% chance of soloing a certain mob, an (equally geared/skilled) Ogre might have an 80% chance.

But that certainly won't make me re-roll, and I don't think it should influence the OP either. A Barbarian will save a lot more time leveling (and by having Firiona Vie access without faction work) than they will lose to the (10% more) corpse runs they have to make on the rare occasions that they solo Velious dragons.

Regen is a little harder to measure though; my guess is that the downtime it saves is roughly equal to the extra leveling time a Troll/Iksar needs ... but having never played a regenerating shaman much I don't know for sure.

[rgostic]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regen is a little harder to measure though; my guess is that the downtime it saves is roughly equal to the extra leveling time a Troll/Iksar needs ...

You seem to not realize that when you hit 60, the XP bonus advantage disappears, while the regen advantage is at an all time high. Also, having an XP penalty means that you get a larger share of raw XP when grouped with someone who is of equivalent level.

Regen is not just about saving downtime. It actively enhances your killing power, never goes away, and should not be underestimated.

[Rourk]

If regen was king, high end shamans would never take off Fungis. But they do. Regen loses a lot of its appeal once you get torpor.