Solo Barbarian Shaman Stat Allocation - Page 12

DeathsSilkyMist · #**111** 07-22-2022, 11:22 AM

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What UI are you using?

I am using the old Titanium UI before they switched over to the more "classic" UI, but that doesn't seem to matter. If the numbers were off I wouldn't be able to cast certain spells when at really low mana, and that isn't the case. It isn't a specific issue with the client being wrong, I did take that possibility into account when testing.

eqravenprince · #**112** 07-22-2022, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am using the old Titanium UI before they switched over to the more "classic" UI, but that doesn't seem to matter. If the numbers were off I wouldn't be able to cast certain spells when at really low mana, and that isn't the case. It isn't a specific issue with the client being wrong, I did take that possibility into account when testing.

My UI doesn't show total mana is why I asked what custom UI you were using so I could do my own testing.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**113** 07-22-2022, 11:28 AM

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My UI doesn't show total mana is why I asked what custom UI you were using so I could do my own testing.

Ah yeah, it's just the old UI that P99 was using before updating it. Not sure if people are hosting it anywhere, I just had it from before the update, and it still works.

eqravenprince · #**114** 07-22-2022, 11:30 AM

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Ah yeah, it's just the old UI that P99 was using before updating it. Not sure if people are hosting it anywhere, I just had it from before the update, and it still works.

Lucky you, only way I could test this is going thirsty, then start casting spells til completely empty.

eqravenprince · #**115** 07-22-2022, 11:32 AM

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Ah yeah, it's just the old UI that P99 was using before updating it. Not sure if people are hosting it anywhere, I just had it from before the update, and it still works.

Can you do a test for me? Take all your gear off and add one piece of gear with only wisdom and tell me what multiplier you get at level 60.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**116** 07-22-2022, 11:40 AM

Sure. With not items on I have 1359 Mana. When I put on an item with 7 WIS, it increases to 1440. 1440 - 1359 = 81. 81 / 7 = 11.5

This is consistent with my findings in that thread. Again, the decimal is not always the same, I assume it is due to some sort of strange rounding issue. The number seems to fluctuate between 11 and 12. I have yet to see a number below 11 or above 12.

eqravenprince · #**117** 07-22-2022, 11:50 AM

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Sure. With not items on I have 1359 Mana. When I put on an item with 7 WIS, it increases to 1440. 1440 - 1359 = 81. 81 / 7 = 11.5

This is consistent with my findings in that thread. Again, the decimal is not always the same, I assume it is due to some sort of strange rounding issue. The number seems to fluctuate between 11 and 12. I have yet to see a number below 11 or above 12.

Good stuff, thanks!

eqravenprince · #**118** 07-22-2022, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure. With not items on I have 1359 Mana. When I put on an item with 7 WIS, it increases to 1440. 1440 - 1359 = 81. 81 / 7 = 11.5

This is consistent with my findings in that thread. Again, the decimal is not always the same, I assume it is due to some sort of strange rounding issue. The number seems to fluctuate between 11 and 12. I have yet to see a number below 11 or above 12.

If the wiki were to be fixed, Below 200 mana per wisdom = (82 * level) / 425. Formula works for your 60 and your level 24 mana numbers you provided in other thread.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**119** 07-22-2022, 12:11 PM

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If the wiki were to be fixed, Below 200 mana per wisdom = (82 * level) / 425. Formula works for your 60 and your level 24 mana numbers you provided in other thread.

Yeah that is basically correct. I put it this way:

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For Clerics and Shamans the formula for AVERAGE mana gained per WIS is:
1. 0.1883333 * WIS * LEVEL = Mana gained while under or at 200 WIS
2. (0.1883333 * WIS * LEVEL)/2 = Mana gained while over 200 WIS

82 /425 = 0.192, so it is close. I think I lowered the number a tiny bit to take into account the fluctuation. I have gotten decimals from 11.0 to 11.6. No one formula is going to be 100% accurate due to the fluctuation, but it's close enough.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**120** 07-22-2022, 12:18 PM

Yeah I am using 11.3 I believe instead of 11.5 because that is the midground between 11.0 and 11.6. Also, when you increase your WIS by 100, it is usually around 11.3, so that is probably closer to the real number.

So to put it in your terms:

((80 * LEVEL) / 425) * WIS