You don't "own" a camp because you just started clearing.

[zelld52]

Logging into HS north to move my toon out of HS, and there's some goober enchanter who is on his first kill of the whole wing.

He sends tell, "It's camped. Please leave."

LOL. What? The wing that is fully popped? You're camping this, you say? You think you have squatters rights or something?

I started to kill stuff, because I knew I could kill faster than him. But then I forgot my mission was to LEAVE HS.. lol. So I just rooted a bunch of mobs in the hallway for shits and giggles and then gated out.

No name and shame here. Just have a laugh with me, or at me.

[Toxigen]

cool story

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cool story

It is a cool story, thanks. And indicative of sheer sense of entitlement some players have.

[magnetaress]

Technically you have access to camps which can be revoked or superceded at any time.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Technically you have access to camps which can be revoked or superceded at any time.

I had this clarified to me by a GM a few months ago. Camp claim requires the following:

- Camp is clear of mobs.
- Maintain a constant presence.

GM also said that if you have partially cleared a camp, and then another group comes down and finishes clearing before you - they have rights to the camp.

So you can't just look at a camp and then tell everyone else stay away because you saw it first. Gotta do the work first to claim it.

[BigChief]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had this clarified to me by a GM a few months ago. Camp claim requires the following:

- Camp is clear of mobs.
- Maintain a constant presence.

GM also said that if you have partially cleared a camp, and then another group comes down and finishes clearing before you - they have rights to the camp.

So you can't just look at a camp and then tell everyone else stay away because you saw it first. Gotta do the work first to claim it.

I had "good guys" report me for "taking their camp" by killing a mob that was up for 10 minutes. The room was packed, the hallway packed, and they were in another room!

They even gave me a "Do you know who I am?"

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had this clarified to me by a GM a few months ago. Camp claim requires the following:

- Camp is clear of mobs.
- Maintain a constant presence.

GM also said that if you have partially cleared a camp, and then another group comes down and finishes clearing before you - they have rights to the camp.

So you can't just look at a camp and then tell everyone else stay away because you saw it first. Gotta do the work first to claim it.

I mean personally with the "rules" the gm's have laid out it is entirely illegal to "kite" whatever you want, into whoever you want, and take whatever you want.
As long as youre a bard. So the new meta is to just make a bard and train whoever is in your way.

[Toxigen]

The HS wings aren't a single camp.

If someone claims North all you have to do is go beyond their LoS. According to the seb crypt example this is perfectly fine.

North Ramp is just the premo spot because it has a safe AFK spot. Just like in South...the safe cubby is the typical spot but thats not stopping anyone from going and setting up shop in another spot.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The HS wings aren't a single camp.

If someone claims North all you have to do is go beyond their LoS. According to the seb crypt example this is perfectly fine.

North Ramp is just the premo spot because it has a safe AFK spot. Just like in South...the safe cubby is the typical spot but thats not stopping anyone from going and setting up shop in another spot.

Nobody wants to hear this.

If there is a group of let's say 3-4+ players, and they are attempting clear the entire North Wing, I will leave them alone, camp and try again another time.

Shit - if it's a solo player, and they say something like "I'm only killing these few mobs, you can have some of these." I will probably just let them be and camp, and come back another time. Or maybe suggest a duo with them.

However, if there is one enchanter only killing 6-7 mobs and claiming the whole wing -- I push back on that.

Then said enchanter(s) usually gets upset and start threatening petitions for camp stealing. Claims running OBS to show the GMs, etc etc. I laugh it off, and kill anyway.

I don't ever have any disputes with players who act reasonably, are considerate, or just aren't goobers. The goobers who send a tell as soon as you log in telling you to "get out because it's camped", on the other hand...

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody wants to hear this.

If there is a group of let's say 3-4+ players, and they are attempting clear the entire North Wing, I will leave them alone, camp and try again another time.

Shit - if it's a solo player, and they say something like "I'm only killing these few mobs, you can have some of these." I will probably just let them be and camp, and come back another time. Or maybe suggest a duo with them.

However, if there is one enchanter only killing 6-7 mobs and claiming the whole wing -- I push back on that.

Then said enchanter(s) usually gets upset and start threatening petitions for camp stealing. Claims running OBS to show the GMs, etc etc. I laugh it off, and kill anyway.

I don't ever have any disputes with players who act reasonably, are considerate, or just aren't goobers. The goobers who send a tell as soon as you log in telling you to "get out because it's camped", on the other hand...

All you had to do was leave. I petitioned you and am still awaiting my petition request for your immediate removal for no less then 1 week. Enjoy the vacation.