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You'll never notice sta. Unless you are one of those people who says "I can't stand staring at 2.9k hp, I need 3k hp!"
Just go str, you can feel it all the way up, and not having to rely on buffs sitting at max str is a great feeling, which will also allow you to swap in other resist gear to more easily keep max str. | ||
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If we were talking about a Rogue who is 100% self found with no starting money/items, then you would have a STRONGER argument hehe. Having 60 strength and no gear can be rough in the lower levels. Min/Max requires you to quantify what your character looks like at level 60, because stats don't give you much in the lower levels. If OP plays his Rogue up to level 30 and gets bored, starting stats wouldn't have mattered anyway. Not saying OP is overly concerned with Min/Max by the sound of it, but if you are worried about stats, you are thinking about the long game.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 07-13-2023 at 02:15 PM..
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OP doesn't seem like he'll ever min max, so str makes more sense. You get the early benefit, and if you do decide to min/max, sta can be capped too, so it's really not a big deal. I've twinked many chars, done many builds. Hitting max str is not easy without buffs. | |||
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I do agree with you that STR is more important if OP was planning on doing a no twink playthrough. Then I would probably say STR is the better starting stat to put points into. I've leveled quite a few characters myself, and the reality is mobs level 1-39 are just vastly easier than mobs 40+, especially with twink weapons. By the time you really start needing that STR, you will be high enough level to either get bored and stop playing, or have the cash to make up for any lack of STR you have. Rogue is group dependent character, so your chances of getting buffed is also higher.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 07-13-2023 at 02:50 PM..
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Honestly, if part of your arguement is for STR is based on carrying FS weapons to sell, then you shouldn't be part of this conversation. If your actually even looting FS to sell in the first place then you don't understand effeciency in this game what so ever.
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Seeing this thread made me look at how I started my rogue
I didn't remember how I started my rogue.
Looks like I chose starting points to stamina. Now back to page 3 and continue reading this thread. edit - oh, and if still looking for weapons, I have Small Dragon Shard and Seb Croaking Dirk no longer in use. Think they are on my tunnel mule now? Not sure, prolly. | ||
Last edited by Garnaak; 07-22-2023 at 04:35 AM..
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With Focus…
This is 9 str from capping. You could swap out Coldain’s for Crystal Chitin Gaunts. With a fungi instead it’s 29 from capping Without the str of the elements it’s 44 Using BD bracers during HoT raids and such you need 58 to cap I’d rather cap than ask for Maniacal Strength. Nobody asks a rogues about their hps, everyone wonders wtf is wrong when they look at the parse. https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:GnomeRogueTest | ||
Last edited by Snaggles; 07-13-2023 at 05:38 PM..
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If you need a bit of extra strength due to not having Strength of the Elements, you can simply swap one of your rings for https://wiki.project1999.com/Gem_Encrusted_Ring . Rogues get an extra 100 HP from the 25 points into STA, so you can take off one ring and still have more HP than someone who dumped their starting stats into STR with 2x HP rings. Or get https://wiki.project1999.com/Coldain..._Insignia_Ring and have your cake and eat it too. I don't see a problem with asking for Maniacal Strength if you need it. I've had plenty of people ask for it. Your parse will also be bad if you die.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 07-13-2023 at 06:43 PM..
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I always think of math on riotous health. Good call on Focus.
I don’t see coming to an agreement (that’s fine). I’m always a fan of assuming players will be more casual. BD bracers instead of Beno’s. My main is hundreds of hps down and I seldom die or have a reason to stack hps so generally stack STR and MR. If I didn’t raid I would care even less. | ||
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