What class will you roll first on a fresh server?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It gave me much entertainment to see how magician players were complaining how broken their class was at 39 while melees were still struggling to break 19.

That's a great point. I wasn't one of those complainers, it seemed like easy mode in comparison.

[real_sauga_yoot]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That ranking is all sorts of wrong, esp. for classic. Wizard is also a solid class for raiding. Necromancer or enchanter? Gurl, you basic.

I'd concede a few points, i was mostly thinking overall and Velious - not particularly just vanilla. But all sorts of wrong? Wizard solid class for raiding in classic? Pre lures? You're retarded lol.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by real_sauga_yoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd concede a few points, i was mostly thinking overall and Velious - not particularly just vanilla. But all sorts of wrong? Wizard solid class for raiding in classic? Pre lures? You're retarded lol.

wizards when PoHate drops: At long last, my time has come.

[drackgon]

Originally Posted by real_sauga_yoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd concede a few points, i was mostly thinking overall and Velious - not particularly just vanilla. But all sorts of wrong? Wizard solid class for raiding in classic? Pre lures? You're retarded lol.

Dude what? Wizards are great in classic. Let me break it down some examples.

Ice comet is totally hard to land on mobs, but when it does GG ur getting the raid XP for your group[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff of wheel= amazing caster wp that blows away many in classic.

Staff of Temp flux. This item is stupid amazing in classic. Clicky agro gain/pulling item.

Examples of uses. Plane of Fear kite. Need someone to always be able to rip off that kite. Send in a wizzy with clicky staff = requires no stupid mage clicky staff that sometimes doesnt work.. click that wizzy staff 20 times Its going to come.

Racing for FTE.. How many times did billy from Kingdom get FTE with this dang thing!

Another raid function. How many times did guilds bring in waves of 25 mobs to do AoE clears and turn fear from 2 hours down to 45 mins? How?? Wizards. Congrats you allow that to happen.

PoH. Need to make sure those mobs cant gate.. Cast Ice comet around 50%. = win. Or just have your 6 stuns loaded[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't forget PoH/PoS = MUST HAVE WIZZY.

Posky Neck for wizzy= cost of a guild doing Sky reduced to what? 10% of the cost? Saving your guild/raid team that much money.

Lvling in groups?? With jboots/peggy cloak I was always the puller in CT. Flying around clicking staff. bringing to group. Start my nuke (do a smaller one) and run off and pull more.

Oh charm break on enc /cast stun.

Or just sit there. Mob comes in cast nuke. by time it lands the mob dies. at 44 even faster.

they can easily quad starting what 34? Plus can bind at camp. Port around to find an enchanter to cast crack, then gate and repeat.

Wizzys are great imo your list has them way to underrated.

[greatdane]

Those are some odd notions on worthwhile class features.

Ice comet is totally hard to land on mobs, but when it does GG ur getting the raid XP for your group

What's the value in that? It might earn you 3% XP per week. This has no real value.

Staff of wheel= amazing caster wp that blows away many in classic.

No it doesn't. It's worse than a Stein of Moggok.

Staff of Temp flux. This item is stupid amazing in classic. Clicky agro gain/pulling item.

It's a nice item, but it's not as if it actually makes wizards good.

Examples of uses. Plane of Fear kite. Need someone to always be able to rip off that kite. Send in a wizzy with clicky staff = requires no stupid mage clicky staff that sometimes doesnt work.. click that wizzy staff 20 times Its going to come.

Nobody really does this. You don't actually want a wizard to do the kiting.

Racing for FTE.. How many times did billy from Kingdom get FTE with this dang thing!

Literally any insta-click offensive spell will work identically, so in no way is this an asset.

Another raid function. How many times did guilds bring in waves of 25 mobs to do AoE clears and turn fear from 2 hours down to 45 mins? How?? Wizards. Congrats you allow that to happen.

The real "how" is enchanters.

PoH. Need to make sure those mobs cant gate.. Cast Ice comet around 50%. = win. Or just have your 6 stuns loaded

That's such a reach that it barely warrants a comment. Trying this hard to come up with reasons why wizard is "good" is kind of comical.

Don't forget PoH/PoS = MUST HAVE WIZZY.

Dial a Port.

Posky Neck for wizzy= cost of a guild doing Sky reduced to what? 10% of the cost? Saving your guild/raid team that much money.

And approximately two of these will be made per year. Any given player's odds of getting it is one in a hundred.

Lvling in groups?? With jboots/peggy cloak I was always the puller in CT. Flying around clicking staff. bringing to group. Start my nuke (do a smaller one) and run off and pull more.

Bullshit. You're not nuking on every pull while also being the puller. You made that up in your desperation to make the wizard class seem like it isn't raw garbage in groups.

Oh charm break on enc /cast stun.

Fully half the classes in Everquest have similarly effective ways to assist an enchanter on charm breaks.

Or just sit there. Mob comes in cast nuke. by time it lands the mob dies. at 44 even faster.

And when doing this, wizard is the worst DPS in the game.

they can easily quad starting what 34? Plus can bind at camp. Port around to find an enchanter to cast crack, then gate and repeat.

There are almost no quadding spots in classic.

Wizzys are great imo your list has them way to underrated.

People who actually understand Everquest are aware that it's one of the very worst classes in the game. It's why it is consistently one of the least played. Calling the class "great" is either intentionally dishonest or just plain ignorant.

[PatChapp]

Wizards don't do the kiting,they rip mobs out of the kite with the amazing flux staff
They do the damage on ae clears, enchanters can stun em but rely on other classes to kill.
Wizards are a great class for classic raids,once the planes open up. They are a raiding class that has to solo their way to it.

There is quading spots in classic. They tend to be busy but can take you to 50.
Paw spires gnolls 35-38 or so.
Oot specs are very quadable and can take you to 50
Dwarves in BB same deal. Just a little busier.

[Raj]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizards don't do the kiting,they rip mobs out of the kite with the amazing flux staff
They do the damage on ae clears, enchanters can stun em but rely on other classes to kill.
Wizards are a great class for classic raids,once the planes open up. They are a raiding class that has to solo their way to it.

There is quading spots in classic. They tend to be busy but can take you to 50.
Paw spires gnolls 35-38 or so.
Oot specs are very quadable and can take you to 50
Dwarves in BB same deal. Just a little busier.

Quad Ogre guards too in Oggok if u dont mind maybe losing a guised/natural DE banking spot...but hey! Youre a porter, the world is yours, and Neriak + Erudin are far more superior cities anyways.

[Jimjam]

Neriak is the wizard city. Mana free group port to the doorstep of the city and EC.

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by Raj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quad Ogre guards too in Oggok if u dont mind maybe losing a guised/natural DE banking spot...but hey! Youre a porter, the world is yours, and Neriak + Erudin are far more superior cities anyways.

Yeah for sure,the ogres are a great quad spot just very busy. But in classic everything pretty busy anyway.
To say that wizards are crap in classic is just wrong.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah for sure,the ogres are a great quad spot just very busy. But in classic everything pretty busy anyway.
To say that wizards are crap in classic is just wrong.

The busier it is the better wizards get as their manabar is a dps capacitor. Melee have no way to store unused dps.