Game Mechanics: Mage: Earth pet will not Root a Player with Sow.

Azu · #1 10-08-2011, 09:30 AM

so now that i reached 49 i wanted to test out the resist rate on mage pet roots on players with high and low Magic Resistance. anyways when i went to test this with the 49 mage pet.. he simply would not root my level 50 druid friend, at all. he didnt even try to. we let it melee him for around 10 mins total time, he even tried kiting it just out of melee range for a while. nothing, he wouldn't even try and root. so at first i thought, "ok maybe its levitate," but he still wouldn't root.

so out of curiosity i guess he removed his Sow, and right away the pet attempted to root again like he normally would. so to make sure this was the case he cast sow on himself again, and once again the pet stopped attempting to root.

so it would appear earth pets will not attempt to root a player with sow.

here's what i think it is. or maybe has something to do with it. a Earth pet will not attempt to root a target that is already rooted. he just wont bother. be it his own root spell or another players. I believe that the pet is thinking that "sow" is a root, and there for not attempting to root his target if it has Sow.

Please look into this if possible, ty =)

Azu · #2 10-08-2011, 11:34 AM

I confirmed Jboots will also Block the pet from Casting root. making fighting a melee that has Jboots a biatch and very, very difficult to fight.

tmoneynegro · #3 10-08-2011, 06:35 PM

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I confirmed Jboots will also Block the pet from Casting root. making fighting a melee that has Jboots a biatch and very, very difficult to fight.

I hate to break it to you pal, but earth pet root never lands on EQ live PvP servers unless someone is naked. So if this is fixed to be anything like EQ live, you should not expect the pet to ever root people with gear on anyway.

Did you honestly think PvP was that easy? Just send pet then run away for a free kill? There's a reason it doesn't land, because it would take 0 skill to kill people that way.

Azu · #4 10-09-2011, 04:18 AM

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I hate to break it to you pal, but earth pet root never lands on EQ live PvP servers unless someone is naked. So if this is fixed to be anything like EQ live, you should not expect the pet to ever root people with gear on anyway.

Did you honestly think PvP was that easy? Just send pet then run away for a free kill? There's a reason it doesn't land, because it would take 0 skill to kill people that way.

it does land, on a player with 100mr~ roughly 1 in 6 to 7 attempts, it will last a tic or 2. less then 100 MR it lands far more often, tho still for only about 2 ticks.

its not so much if it resists all the time. the pet attempts to root "alot" and very often. go troll in Rants and flames or something, not people trying to give feedback on bugs ect.

tmoneynegro · #5 10-10-2011, 04:49 AM

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it does land, on a player with 100mr~ roughly 1 in 6 to 7 attempts, it will last a tic or 2

Wow dude, you may be the biggest liar on earth. Pets are low level and receive a huge penalty for that level difference when casting on level 50's.

Root casted by a level 50 player against another level 50 player with 100MR will probably land 5-8% of the time max. Therefore, a mage pet would have even harder of a chance to land it.

It sounds like you played TZVZ and never touched EQ live PvP before.

Azu · #6 10-10-2011, 09:15 AM

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Wow dude, you may be the biggest liar on earth. Pets are low level and receive a huge penalty for that level difference when casting on level 50's.

Root casted by a level 50 player against another level 50 player with 100MR will probably land 5-8% of the time max. Therefore, a mage pet would have even harder of a chance to land it.

It sounds like you played TZVZ and never touched EQ live PvP before.

well that's what happened while testing it on my druid friend when he had a little over 100 mr. strangely enough even with the pets being as low level as they are their roots will land on higher level players given enough attempts. (they recast every 6 seconds)

in regards to player cast roots, i was shocked the other day when a 44 shaman tried to instill me (being 50) i resisted 4 or 5 times in a row before he gave up and started to dot me. (which all landed) having only 48 MR unbuffed. you would think at least one of those instill would have landed if only for a tick or 2. but resists work weird here i guess.

also Im not sure why people throw this "you must have played TZVZ ect. ect. ect." all the time. to be honest i have no idea what TZVZ is. tho i get the impression it was some other EMU server or something. i Played on RZ back on live as a shadow knight and a paladin. i remember my roots and darkness spells landing much more often then it did here. but that was so long ago my memory is foggy as best, so i wouldn't know for sure.

Lovely · #7 10-08-2011, 11:34 AM

Confirmed. Earth pets doesn't even cast root on people with sow or Jboots. But the second you remove the speed buff they cast it again like normal.

Clark · #8 03-02-2013, 03:50 AM

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Confirmed. Earth pets doesn't even cast root on people with sow or Jboots. But the second you remove the speed buff they cast it again like normal.

what in the..

**nilbog** · #9 03-03-2013, 11:28 AM

Okay so I'm looking into the earth pet situation. Before I waste a lot of time in the wrong areas, a few questions:

When you say it is never resisted. Is it truly NEVER resisted? Or is it extremely rare to resist?

Does the root resist problem exist with both low level mage pets and high level ones? EarthElementalAttack (low) vs. EarthElementalStrike (kunark lvl).

Does the root frequency problem exist with both low level mage pets and high level ones? EarthElementalAttack (low) vs. EarthElementalStrike (kunark lvl).

Do these same problems exist for PVE encounters on the pvp server, or only for PVP?

heartbrand · #10 03-04-2013, 12:24 PM

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Okay so I'm looking into the earth pet situation. Before I waste a lot of time in the wrong areas, a few questions:

When you say it is never resisted. Is it truly NEVER resisted? Or is it extremely rare to resist?

Does the root resist problem exist with both low level mage pets and high level ones? EarthElementalAttack (low) vs. EarthElementalStrike (kunark lvl).

Does the root frequency problem exist with both low level mage pets and high level ones? EarthElementalAttack (low) vs. EarthElementalStrike (kunark lvl).

Do these same problems exist for PVE encounters on the pvp server, or only for PVP?

It is resisted, but even with 200+ MR it seems a 50/50 proposition at best, and anything lower than that and it's GG. I'm not sure what level pet the issue is with, but I know it definitely occurs with the high level kunark one. With the frequency, again I'm not sure about the low level one, but it certainly occurs very frequently with the high level one. The frequency wouldn't be an issue if the root was correctly resisted. Maybe this will be the chance we've all been waiting for, that ALL root spells are looked into.