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Old 05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
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Default +/- 6 lvls & ffa zones pls

I don't see P99 doing teams (although I rolled Aenor on VZ day 1 and race war was obviously the most successful EQ PvP ruleset). I more see P99 doing Rallos style since this will suit its existing blue player base (probable return of the PK vs. Anti dynamic and a nice, safe +/- 4 lvl spread for PvP.

So I would like to request one concession on behalf of the teams PvP players, assuming that you're not considering all out ffa with no level restrictions (which I would prefer). Please make it a +/- 6 lvl spread. This is a compromise between +/- 4 (rallos) and 8 (vallon/tallon).

Also, please consider making any zone where newbies would have no business going ffa with no level restrictions. That way we can avoid out of range healing in contested zones, as well as lvl 1 halfling rogue spies. If it's classic era, and you zone into LGuk or Sol B, you should have no protection.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:18 AM
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:28 AM
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Another possible compromise would be to create an NPC with a dialogue that allows you to join a newbie guild based in each starting city. I think a big part of the success of race was was that you didn't have to worry about logging in at lvl 1 and getting attacked by lvl 4s from your own starting city.

The race war provided context to the conflict, but also created the issue of immortal healers. By giving players the option to join a starting guild in their home city, they gain a measure of protection starting off without the need to code teams and deal with all the issues this creates. Those who want to be able to attack other players from their starting city have that option as well by simply not joining the starting guild.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:42 AM
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Dude just please kill yourself. You just suggested the worst possible rule set you can have for server population. It would have even less people than TZVZ. Nobody wants to play on a server of 50 people.

Let me explain to you idiots for the 500th time why item loot doesn't work:

1) naked casters can easily kill people while melees can't

2) there is no drop equipment all over the place which defeats the entire purpose of your horrible rule set

Most people do not want a level limit for PvP either regardless of if they want teams or FFA. If you want item loot, it would have to be Altergate style item loot where you can loot one non-equipped item.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:50 AM
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If you can pull yourself away from the gay old man porn long enough to actually read my post, you will see that nowhere does it mention item loot.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:57 AM
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lol i gotta agree with aenor, he said RZ style ruleset. he went on to mention he was talking about the +- 4 levels, and no-team setting.

he does not mention item loot anywhere. wormak fails again lolol
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:04 AM
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If you can pull yourself away from the gay old man porn long enough to actually read my post, you will see that nowhere does it mention item loot.
You said you wanted RZ style PvP which means item loot. There's no reason to have level limits on PvP unless you have item loot which is why I posted that.

Level limits + no item loot is just lol stupid.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:24 AM
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I'd imagine it will be +/- 4 with ffa because thats what was done for Zek merger, and thats what worked. I could care less if its item loot or not, though I'd prefer item loot.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:34 AM
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Fuck item loot its just going to push people off the server. The majority of the playerbase will be blues who won't tolerate losing their pixels.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:47 AM
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8 levels is perfect. Melees who ding 20/30 and get new dmg caps can run around the world pvping freely without having to worry about casters with 29/39 spells targeting. It's also broad enough that you can pretty much be assured to see people within your range leveling in your zone.

And no item loot. Promotes naked caster griefing and it super defensive strategy and bagging gear.
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