Fun necro clickies and their utility

[fortior]

I’m really enjoying my baby necro. I got him a prenerf CoS and a Zheart, but I was wondering about the various other clickies available, either raid loot or droppables. As far as I know, only really the VP staff is notoriously good.

There’s the velketor bracelet which seems to be not liked very much despite being a better jbb, is that because necros get so much free mana?

The fear staff from xalgoz seems rather meh. I don’t think fear is used much when charm killing, right?

And the third other big item I know of is the necro epic, but it looks rather underwhelming, staff of the silent star has better stats, but the clicky looks useful at least.

I like charming a lot (necro instead of enchanter because iksar master race), any clickies aimed at the charming lifestyle that might not be well known?

[Uteunayr]

Some other good clickies to add to your list: Dain 10 ring, Manna Robe, Holgresh Elder Beads, raider skullcap, Robe of Adversity, Encyclopedia Necrotheurgia, and maybe a Crown of Rile. Oh and don't forget a small stockpile of wort pots. They can be damn handy in a bad situation.

Two quick comments: I agree about the Fear Staff, especially for charming, but it has its uses. It has a longer cast time but has an opportunity cost of only 20 mana. Also not needing to memorize Invoke Fear when it's needed is absolutely wonderful.

Necro epic has been a lot more fun now that darkness can stack with roots. While your charm pet is fighting something, you can epic click it after rooting it, that way if charm and roots breaks at the same time, one of them will be snared. Also when you pair it with VP staff, you're looking at ~2k damage without any upfront mana cost and only a minimal opportunity cost. That's not bad if you ever need to finish something off and you don't want to waste mana. Also, like with the fear staff: not needing to mem a darkness spell again is fantastic.

[Solist]

Ring 10
Either VP staff
Crown of hatred+bracer of the hidden so your pet can take a dispel.
Nex Robe + velious pants. Saves memming shit.
A lot of wort pots. Shit happens.
Mallet for a weak slow.

Delete button. Class is all but trash except for pet walking and summoning corpses.

[Penish]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ring 10
Either VP staff
Crown of hatred+bracer of the hidden so your pet can take a dispel.
Nex Robe + velious pants. Saves memming shit.
A lot of wort pots. Shit happens.
Mallet for a weak slow.

Delete button. Class is all but trash except for pet walking and summoning corpses.

^

roll a chanter, gl

[silo32]

Necro clicky fear staff.. used in neriak on trolls and ogres from 53+-60... Fear forever pet dots zzzzz was in trash gear. Weird buggy pathing, was a snooze grind.

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by silo32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Necro clicky fear staff.. used in neriak on trolls and ogres from 53+-60... Fear forever pet dots zzzzz was in trash gear. Weird buggy pathing, was a snooze grind.

Yea I used to have this on live back in the day, was so much fun. To each their own though - it does take forever to cast IIRC.

[noleriand]

Plug for Words_of_Darkness for instant 'travel lich' that will last when you zone, in addition to being a solid global cooldown item on its own.

Necro planar wands are actually pretty nice. Wand_of_Souls is ~1k in instant lifetaps when full, and Wand_of_Darkness is pretty much just an instant cast epic that you have to recharge.

Staff_of_the_Dreaded_Gaze *is* one of the only ways to reduce the mana cost (increase efficiency) of a fear kiting leveling strategy, but for bigger things like Neze or WW dragons I still find that I have a fear mem'd for when it inevitably breaks early.

Nightshade_Scented_Staff has an (I think?) one-of-a-kind graphic with an Iksar skull? S tier fashion, more-or-less F-tier click.

If you actually play your necro and understand math, Bone_Bracelet_of_Condemnation is amazing. 500dmg in 15s is 200dmg a tick, stacks on top of all your other dots, and only costs your meditation mana (~40 mana, because you don't have to sit to get lich mana). You aren't going to find ways to use it while tanking like you do with a JBB, but you're a necro and you are probably tap tanking for higher DPS anyway.

The Manna_Robe paired with soul well and beads allows for a very active form of mana regeneration where you come out about 15 mana/tick ahead for no net loss of hp as Iksar (just costs your sanity, and you don't get the full 20 on average due to the time it takes to cycle beads + soulwell). Pair it with FT8, GoB, PotG, and bard song, and you are hitting 101 mana/tick on your successful robe ticks.

Abashi%27s_Rod_of_Disempowerment was probably not worth the effort and is a symbol of just how badly I wasted the tail end of my 20's, but what's done is done, I love the lore behind it, and it is actually a unique and valuable effect that you can right click from inventory. Abashi was a GM/dev/whatever who played a PvP necro and tried to fight a wizard, who just instantly pumice-stone'd off his dots - and Abashi proceeded to have poison and disease dot mechanics changed so that they cannot be dispeled. [Source: literally just some EQ apocrypha on the internet]. Bottom line is that you never have to 1v1 something that is hasted, sow'd, DS'd, HP or MR buffed ever again and since it only dispels beneficial effects (buffs), your own dots are safe.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by noleriand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plug for Words_of_Darkness for instant 'travel lich' that will last when you zone, in addition to being a solid global cooldown item on its own.

Necro planar wands are actually pretty nice. Wand_of_Souls is ~1k in instant lifetaps when full, and Wand_of_Darkness is pretty much just an instant cast epic that you have to recharge.

Staff_of_the_Dreaded_Gaze *is* one of the only ways to reduce the mana cost (increase efficiency) of a fear kiting leveling strategy, but for bigger things like Neze or WW dragons I still find that I have a fear mem'd for when it inevitably breaks early.

Nightshade_Scented_Staff has an (I think?) one-of-a-kind graphic with an Iksar skull? S tier fashion, more-or-less F-tier click.

If you actually play your necro and understand math, Bone_Bracelet_of_Condemnation is amazing. 500dmg in 15s is 200dmg a tick, stacks on top of all your other dots, and only costs your meditation mana (~40 mana, because you don't have to sit to get lich mana). You aren't going to find ways to use it while tanking like you do with a JBB, but you're a necro and you are probably tap tanking for higher DPS anyway.

The Manna_Robe paired with soul well and beads allows for a very active form of mana regeneration where you come out about 15 mana/tick ahead for no net loss of hp as Iksar (just costs your sanity, and you don't get the full 20 on average due to the time it takes to cycle beads + soulwell). Pair it with FT8, GoB, PotG, and bard song, and you are hitting 101 mana/tick on your successful robe ticks.

Abashi%27s_Rod_of_Disempowerment was probably not worth the effort and is a symbol of just how badly I wasted the tail end of my 20's, but what's done is done, I love the lore behind it, and it is actually a unique and valuable effect that you can right click from inventory. Abashi was a GM/dev/whatever who played a PvP necro and tried to fight a wizard, who just instantly pumice-stone'd off his dots - and Abashi proceeded to have poison and disease dot mechanics changed so that they cannot be dispeled. [Source: literally just some EQ apocrypha on the internet]. Bottom line is that you never have to 1v1 something that is hasted, sow'd, DS'd, HP or MR buffed ever again and since it only dispels beneficial effects (buffs), your own dots are safe.

Oh man I always wondered how many necros had abashi. Prob a lot of butt hurt monks on that one, gg tho lol.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by noleriand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plug for Words_of_Darkness for instant 'travel lich' that will last when you zone, in addition to being a solid global cooldown item on its own.

Necro planar wands are actually pretty nice. Wand_of_Souls is ~1k in instant lifetaps when full, and Wand_of_Darkness is pretty much just an instant cast epic that you have to recharge.

Staff_of_the_Dreaded_Gaze *is* one of the only ways to reduce the mana cost (increase efficiency) of a fear kiting leveling strategy, but for bigger things like Neze or WW dragons I still find that I have a fear mem'd for when it inevitably breaks early.

Nightshade_Scented_Staff has an (I think?) one-of-a-kind graphic with an Iksar skull? S tier fashion, more-or-less F-tier click.

If you actually play your necro and understand math, Bone_Bracelet_of_Condemnation is amazing. 500dmg in 15s is 200dmg a tick, stacks on top of all your other dots, and only costs your meditation mana (~40 mana, because you don't have to sit to get lich mana). You aren't going to find ways to use it while tanking like you do with a JBB, but you're a necro and you are probably tap tanking for higher DPS anyway.

The Manna_Robe paired with soul well and beads allows for a very active form of mana regeneration where you come out about 15 mana/tick ahead for no net loss of hp as Iksar (just costs your sanity, and you don't get the full 20 on average due to the time it takes to cycle beads + soulwell). Pair it with FT8, GoB, PotG, and bard song, and you are hitting 101 mana/tick on your successful robe ticks.

Abashi%27s_Rod_of_Disempowerment was probably not worth the effort and is a symbol of just how badly I wasted the tail end of my 20's, but what's done is done, I love the lore behind it, and it is actually a unique and valuable effect that you can right click from inventory. Abashi was a GM/dev/whatever who played a PvP necro and tried to fight a wizard, who just instantly pumice-stone'd off his dots - and Abashi proceeded to have poison and disease dot mechanics changed so that they cannot be dispeled. [Source: literally just some EQ apocrypha on the internet]. Bottom line is that you never have to 1v1 something that is hasted, sow'd, DS'd, HP or MR buffed ever again and since it only dispels beneficial effects (buffs), your own dots are safe.

Alright, I'm sold on the bracer, but I'm not grinding out the DKP for an abashi's [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[zelld52]

Soul Well Staff. To get it you have to get a VP key. Is it worth it? Yes if you really love necro.
Another option is Bone Ring of Condemnation from Velketor. Either the staff or bone ring pair well with Holgresh Beads.

Seriously, try enchanter if you like charm. Hell, even druid. I have a 60 necro and 58 enchanter, 56 druid. I was team Necro is better at charming until late 50s. Enchanter can do so much more than necro with AE Mez, AE Stun, Pacify.
the ONE area Necro does better than Enchanter charming is feigning to mem blur pet. (Paci pet, then feign death and pet forgets about you) It's slightly better than guarding pet far away, invis, stun, and mez/mem blur routine for enchanter.

But everything else, enchanter is much more fun, and versatile charming.

Druid get some of the best charm clickies. Snare shield, Heal Legs/Robe, Regen BP, Thorns Gloves.