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Old 08-12-2024, 03:52 PM
questever questever is offline
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Default HoH v.s. SoZ

How big of a difference is upgrading a Swiftblade of Zek to a Horn of Hsagra?

Is it worth paying the extra plat?
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Old 08-12-2024, 04:10 PM
Snaggles Snaggles is offline
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What’s the goal and the class?

Rangers and warriors are stuck with 240 piercing instead of 250 with other stats. Ratio wise it’s less than a 1% difference in MH between HoH and SBoZ.
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Old 08-14-2024, 03:09 AM
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Question has no answer without more info, and what you want to achieve, and with who.

HoH is superior in nearly every way though. To what degree is determined by a lot of other factors. And the things SoZ is better at are fairly narrow.
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Old 08-14-2024, 10:54 AM
Namsaknoi Namsaknoi is offline
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Just purely stats wise its 25ac 10sta 25svc vs 25hp 10str 25 mana

DPS wise, assuming BIS Rogue with Mrylokar's and Claw of Lightning with 255str and max skills doing 141.29 dps, a Warrior with 11/18 primary and 12/20 secondary will do 73.80 dps, while 13/20 primary (ignoring the skill difference) and 12/20 secondary will do 74.15 dps. If using Reaver (40/40) he will do 80.87 dps

10atk is roughly 1% dps, and 10 skill is like what, 16atk?

You will of course get different dps on AoW compared to on an orc pawn, but ratio should remain the same.

There may be slight error on accuracy of the calculation, but any error should apply the same.

For Rogue, HoH is the only tradeable upgrade over Ragebringer for mainhand but I think your question is for Warrior or Ranger
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Old 08-14-2024, 08:42 PM
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Question is for warrior. How big of a difference being stuck at 240 rather than 250? Maybe reaver is the play if I’m soloing
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Old 08-14-2024, 09:44 PM
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There's no difference.

AC is king
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Old 08-14-2024, 10:19 PM
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Question is for warrior. How big of a difference being stuck at 240 rather than 250? Maybe reaver is the play if I’m soloing
You can get a ToD, Herbalist Spade and Reaver for half the cost of a Fungi. Give it a shot before you burn plat on a HoH. Unless a rogue, I wouldn’t personally buy one.
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Old 08-15-2024, 07:49 AM
PatChapp PatChapp is offline
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Reaver for soloing
Swiftblade is a decent offhand if your trying to max hp when agro is less of an issue,ie mobs you can totem during the pull like vindi.
1h are terrible for solo warriors.
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Old 08-16-2024, 12:36 AM
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what about Doljonijiarnimorinar? Is it just considered a fun toy for early levels?
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Old 08-16-2024, 06:53 AM
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what about Doljonijiarnimorinar? Is it just considered a fun toy for early levels?
It’s not really good in the low levels or high levels, unless you really care about fashion.
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