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Old 12-08-2024, 09:42 PM
Keebz Keebz is offline
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If we're talking about pugs, in my experience Sarnak warhammer and Ykesha weapons don't have enough white threat to compete with EC geared DPS classes. If you don't proc, then you just lose aggro immediately. If procing root is too janky, then maybe just run Reaver.
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Old 12-09-2024, 12:17 AM
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Old 12-09-2024, 03:32 AM
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Quick update:‘herbalists spade seems to generate sufficient white damage to generally outaggro swarmcaller rangers, even before 49 (ie without root proc).

Got about 7 yellow to go for 49, excited to see how that goes. With 255 str and avatar i’m seeing crits (not just crips!) of over 300 with the spade, which is pretty fun.
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:29 AM
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Yeah I loved my Spade,really good balance of dps/hate. Prpc can be funny if your pulling to,accidentally root a mob and have to wait a couple mins for it to follow.
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:44 AM
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That is hilarious.
I was so item poor it would never was/be a problem for me.

As an aside, if a wandering mob happened past the rooted mob even if you were out of (its assist) agro range would it agro to you? That would provide some surprises im sure.
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Old 12-09-2024, 09:25 AM
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It would, but it would only have secondary agro so wouldn't social anything on the way to you. Secondary agro creates some interesting pulls
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Old 12-09-2024, 11:53 AM
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That is hilarious.
I was so item poor it would never was/be a problem for me.

As an aside, if a wandering mob happened past the rooted mob even if you were out of (its assist) agro range would it agro to you? That would provide some surprises im sure.
Popular pulling strategy for rangers in KC is to long root a mob on a pathing node so mobs will pull themselves.

Edit: I'm kinda on a shopping spree atm. Maybe interested in buying more spades. I've already bought 2.
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Old 12-09-2024, 03:02 PM
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Quick update:‘herbalists spade seems to generate sufficient white damage to generally outaggro swarmcaller rangers, even before 49 (ie without root proc).
Someone noted on the spade wiki page:

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After testing numerous weapons on a megatwink in groups, I have concluded that Herbalist's Spade is the best group aggro weapon for Warriors from 49-60. Good ratio gives you a good burst of aggro on first swing, and the Proc is perma-aggro until Root breaks.
If the best solution is "just have someone else root it", might as well bring your own root. Having a great ratio is just icing on the cake , it's above 0,9 IIRC.
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Old 12-10-2024, 08:32 PM
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Someone noted on the spade wiki page:



If the best solution is "just have someone else root it", might as well bring your own root. Having a great ratio is just icing on the cake , it's above 0,9 IIRC.
I bought one a few days ago for my Warrior. As long as everyone else stays back, it's incredible. Hit a crippling blow for 582 as a bonus.
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Old 12-10-2024, 09:01 PM
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Love spade! Adds to my wood elf warrior's ranger guise and with all that dex she has i can CC faster than most of the pugs i find!

Wwhen playing war or rog i find little to do so i concentrate on positioning when skills are on cooldown. The rog pushes to optimal spot put the war pulls there and with a spade she can lock it in place. If you're worried about halfling or gnome rogues getting too close to a mob, just get closer! Or stand farther long enough for then to get the message. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a six man weapon though.. The OP asked for ranks and we haven't produced them yet. There are more than one considerations for the question. Silence raid, nonsilence raid and six man? A sortable spreadsheet is probably called for in order to satisfy the request.
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