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Old 09-28-2018, 09:16 PM
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Bitcoin is the greatest scam in history
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it’s a colossal pump-and-dump scheme, the likes of which the world has never seen. In a pump-and-dump game, promoters “pump” up the price of a security creating a speculative frenzy, then “dump” some of their holdings at artificially high prices. And some cryptocurrencies are pure frauds. Ernst & Young estimates that 10 percent of the money raised for initial coin offerings has been stolen.

The losers are ill-informed buyers caught up in the spiral of greed. The result is a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary families to internet promoters. And “massive” is a massive understatement — 1,500 different cryptocurrencies now register over $300 billion of “value.”

It helps to understand that a bitcoin has no value at all.

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A bitcoin has no intrinsic value. It only has value if people think other people will buy it for a higher price — the Greater Fool theory.
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Way too many Initial Coin Offerings are scams — 418 of the 902 ICOs in 2017 have already failed.
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Transferring $100 from one person to another costs about $6 using a cryptocurrency exchange, and well less than $1 using an electronic check.
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Bitcoin is absurdly wasteful of natural resources. Because it is so compute-intensive, it takes as much electricity to create a single bitcoin — a process called “mining” — as it does to power an average American household for two years. If bitcoin were used for a large portion of the world’s commerce (which won’t happen), it would consume a very large portion of the world’s electricity, diverting scarce power from useful purposes.
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Promoters claim cryptocurrency is valuable as (1) a means of payment, (2) a store of value and/or (3) a thing in itself. None of these claims are true.
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:32 PM
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Jack Ma, the founder of Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba, spoke out at the 2nd World Intelligence Conference in Tianjin, saying that blockchain technology is not a bubble, but Bitcoin is
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:34 PM
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Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are "kind of a pure 'greater fool theory' type of investment," Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:45 PM
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Promoters claim cryptocurrency is valuable as (1) a means of payment, (2) a store of value and/or (3) a thing in itself. None of these claims are true.
There's plenty to criticize, but the fact you quoted this tells me you don't know what you're talking about.

I assume you're old and don't understand technology.
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:57 PM
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There's plenty to criticize, but the fact you quoted this tells me you don't know what you're talking about.

I assume you're old and don't understand technology.
Can I go buy a loaf of bread right now from my corner store with bitcoin?

No.


Move along
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:16 PM
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Can I go buy a loaf of bread right now from my corner store with bitcoin?

No.


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Yes you can.

Move along.
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:48 PM
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Yes you can.

Move along.
I'll ask my corner store owner if he wants bitcoin for my 2$ milk/bread purchase every 2nd or 3rd day.

(He will say, "No thanks")

Hop along now
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:02 AM
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Can I go buy a loaf of bread right now from my corner store with bitcoin?

No.


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You can't buy a loaf of bread with an Apple share either, yet I doubt you're going to say it is worthless.
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Old 09-29-2018, 10:19 AM
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I'll ask my corner store owner if he wants bitcoin for my 2$ milk/bread purchase every 2nd or 3rd day.

(He will say, "No thanks")

Hop along now
Chances are you have Bitcoin ATMs around. I live in a small city and we have hundreds of kiosks.

So hop on over to an ATM and exchange BTC for USD.
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Old 09-29-2018, 02:15 PM
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You can't buy a loaf of bread with an Apple share either, yet I doubt you're going to say it is worthless.
Not sure how to respond to this tbh as it's not a very intelligent statement --- an Apple share is completely different to a bitcoin, excuse the pun but it's apples and oranges my dude. Also one's real, one isn't.

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Chances are you have Bitcoin ATMs around. I live in a small city and we have hundreds of kiosks.

So hop on over to an ATM and exchange BTC for USD.
So after I spend real world $ to farm (equipment and energy) some fake $ I have to drive to a specialist kiosk/atm which all would have varing exchange rates which I would have to check every day similarly to an currency exhange rate....and where I lose out on a percentage of my fake $ each time I get real world $ just so I can go buy some bread and milk from my local shop.

Right thanks.

I might just skip all that BS and go with the real job and spend real money any time I wish scenario.
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