Solo Artist Challenge

[Raev]

Thinking about this some more, I think I might just try to reopen the Solo Artist Challenge for Velious. I think the slate kind of needs to be wiped clean; there have been too many mechanics changes (NPCs got tougher with more attack rounds, invis pulling was removed, clickies now reset global cooldown, assist aggro, Donals BP about to get a well-deserved nerf, Velious gear will power up players a lot). So we can call the first results Season 1 or Season Kunark or w/e.

I'm not sure we can really have a list with ranks until we get a feel for how challenging things are, though. And in general Velious is much harder. Say Vaniki for example isn't going to be soloed or even duoed (I think!) so I think it might be fun to get maybe quartets and full groups in there somewhere. Maybe pasi could come up with a draft list of NPCs to kind of get the ball rolling for the first month.

[maurilax]

Would be nice to keep the Kunark version going with some amended rules about what gear/spells you can use.

as long as you only use kunark gear, no reason to close that out.

just saying.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by maurilax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would be nice to keep the Kunark version going with some amended rules about what gear/spells you can use.

as long as you only use kunark gear, no reason to close that out.

just saying.

Most of the best kills are no longer possible. Sebilite protector solo for example was only possible because of broken invis pulling.

The Velious list of named mobs though isn't that extensive. I mean... There's Velketors, 4-5 named in DN/SG, WW Dragons and maybe some random quest mobs in Kael?

I dunno, I can't think of many targets for a Soloer. Some Duo/Trio targets would be cool, maybe Kelorek'Dar with 3~ for example.

PS - Ice Burrower should be on the list. All prior Kunark mobs were racist against classes without slow and/or charm.

But more generally, there should be more mobs/targets that include more types of soloers. Rather than the list being just Enchanters, Torpor Shamans and Puppet Strings users.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But more generally, there should be more mobs/targets that include more types of soloers. Rather than the list being just Enchanters, Torpor Shamans and Puppet Strings users.

Well Loraen did say that this challenge was initially referred to as "the real enchanter epic" on his old guild forums!

[Tecmos Deception]

A shame we never had a necro legend though. It definitely was/is feasible I would think, if much more difficult than basically utilizing lull, tash, slow, and an uber charm to melt stuff.

Hell, a necro could do emp, probably without ch clicks given some attempts and significant skill. Charmed pets lined up to use, timing summons, etc.

[kined]

please update for velious asap! I've been so excited to attempt the solo challenge but realized with velious drop the solo game will have changed... gimme targets! gimme rules! i need a goal again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Raev]

Originally Posted by maurilax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would be nice to keep the Kunark version going with some amended rules about what gear/spells you can use.

I don't see any reason to take the Kunark mobs off the list; I'd be real curious to see what the Duo challenge would look like without the Donal's BP. Velious gear may change stuff too; for example it might be possible for a really uber-geared Shaman to do the Sebilite Protector without a puppet stringsed pet. I'm more saying that the mechanics of the server have changed so much that the strategies from two years ago aren't as relevant now.

Originally Posted by Daldaen

The Velious list of named mobs though isn't that extensive. I mean... There's Velketors, 4-5 named in DN/SG, WW Dragons and maybe some random quest mobs in Kael?

I dunno, I can't think of many targets for a Soloer. Some Duo/Trio targets would be cool, maybe Kelorek'Dar with 3~ for example.

But more generally, there should be more mobs/targets that include more types of soloers. Rather than the list being just Enchanters, Torpor Shamans and Puppet Strings users.

I think Velious is just harder, so we'll need more players. Kunark is mostly group content (HS, Seb) that we've found ways to do solo. Velious content seems either more difficult group content (say the Plate Cycle, Kael Arena, Velk's Kobolds, DN rats) which will probably end up being 1-3 mannable or low end raid content (ToV east/west, Kelorek'Dar, Vindi) which can probably be 1-grouped.

And because the challenge will be more small-group focused, it won't be quite so limited to shamans and enchanters. Which I am looking forward to; small groups are my favorite part of EQ.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure we can really have a list with ranks until we get a feel for how challenging things are, though. And in general Velious is much harder. Say Vaniki for example isn't going to be soloed or even duoed (I think!) so I think it might be fun to get maybe quartets and full groups in there somewhere. Maybe pasi could come up with a draft list of NPCs to kind of get the ball rolling for the first month.

I could try to come up with a Velious list in my spare time or at least NPCs to slot into the old list. The main issue being that I probably won't be playing Velious to fine-tune this.

There's a lot of shenanigans that you can do in Velious with getting factions fighting each other. You basically charm a caster and have it nuke an NPC on another faction. Then, you train NPCs of the charmed faction onto the nuked NPC. With enough time and deaths, you can kill a whole lot of stuff with very little numbers. This becomes a lot easier when NPCs get rooted. Yelinak, for example, is one of the easier targets to do this with. Vaniki can be done this way very easily as she is hostile to chetari and can be moved easily because she corpse camps.

[Daldaen]

If someone 1 groups Vindicator in Velious gear I will be very impressed.

I think even a 4 chanter, 2 cleric team would have difficulty downing him even if the chanters know how to charm against mobs like him.

Though I do agree with you, low-numbers encounters are definitely more entertaining than zergs are. A list of these would be nice. Especially to break away from the total Zerg that will be the Velious raid scene. 60+ people facerolling Dragons all over the place.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone 1 groups Vindicator in Velious gear I will be very impressed.

I think even a 4 chanter, 2 cleric team would have difficulty downing him even if the chanters know how to charm against mobs like him.

Though I do agree with you, low-numbers encounters are definitely more entertaining than zergs are. A list of these would be nice. Especially to break away from the total Zerg that will be the Velious raid scene. 60+ people facerolling Dragons all over the place.

would love for a class R guild to dedicate themselves to doing thier raids with less and less people!

I would go back to blue if i could join <Solo Artist Challengers>

You obviously couldn't do this on red heh so come on, a guild that has the time to get ready and kill a mob uninterrupted, lets see some new class R!