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Old 09-25-2014, 01:19 AM
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WTB that technology.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:52 AM
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WTB that technology.
Pretty sure it's available at a certain cost. Isn't there someone on these very boards that can give you the details?
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:59 PM
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As someone who studied cell biology for 4 years I'll just call you retarded and be happy with it. Also the word you are looking g for is epigenetics.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:48 PM
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As someone who studied cell biology for 4 years I'll just call you retarded and be happy with it. Also the word you are looking g for is epigenetics.
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So then you then understand how complex a cell actually is. How did such complexity organize and build itself from dirt, or some primordial goo? It's basically it's own little microscopic city powered by super computers. How did such complexity organize itself without any intelligence to guide it? Did the computer you used to type your buffoonery build itself?

I'll ask you the same questions, since you seem to want to take a stab at it

How did DNA write itself from Nothing

How did even the most basic proteins organize themselves from pure randomness. You know the mathematical odds right? Zero. These proteins have to be organized from a specific sequence with a variety of different amino acids to choose from. This requires very specific instructions. It's an impossibility that such complexity could arrange itself by pure random chance.

Epigenetics is also working within EXISTING genetic code. Where is the evidence it creates never before seen complex life forms or genetic code? Explain how epigenetics writes new DNA that works in absolute harmony with existing DNA. It's a hereditary process. An environmental and behavioral process. Breeding. Traits within an existing kind that can be reversed through behavior. On and off switches. It doesn't create a new type/kind/form of animal. Not Macro-Evolution.

Nobody is disputing variations within existing genetic code. I'm asking for one example of entirely new, never before seen genetic code that creates a never before seen kind/type of life form. Show me all the Transitional Forms that should exist if Darwinian Macro Evolution is proven testable science.

I'm actually surprised you brought it up, since it actually hurts your cause instead of helping it. The changes that are made within existing kinds/types can actually be reversed which puts the entire process back to square one. In other words, it hinders the Natural Selection process. It doesn't help it.
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Old 09-25-2014, 03:04 PM
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So then you then understand how complex a cell actually is. How did such complexity organize and build itself from dirt, or some primordial goo? It's basically it's own little microscopic city powered by super computers. How did such complexity organize itself without any intelligence to guide it? Did the computer you used to type your buffoonery build itself?

I'll ask you the same questions, since you seem to want to take a stab at it

How did DNA write itself from Nothing

How did even the most basic proteins organize themselves from pure randomness. You know the mathematical odds right? Zero. These proteins have to be organized from a specific sequence with a variety of different amino acids to choose from. This requires very specific instructions. It's an impossibility that such complexity could arrange itself by pure random chance.

Epigenetics is also working within EXISTING genetic code. Where is the evidence it creates never before seen complex life forms or genetic code? Explain how epigenetics writes new DNA that works in absolute harmony with existing DNA. It's a hereditary process. An environmental and behavioral process. Breeding. Traits within an existing kind that can be reversed through behavior. On and off switches. It doesn't create a new type/kind/form of animal. Not Macro-Evolution.

Nobody is disputing variations within existing genetic code. I'm asking for one example of entirely new, never before seen genetic code that creates a never before seen kind/type of life form. Show me all the Transitional Forms that should exist if Darwinian Macro Evolution is proven testable science.

I'm actually surprised you brought it up, since it actually hurts your cause instead of helping it. The changes that are made within existing kinds/types can actually be reversed which puts the entire process back to square one. In other words, it hinders the Natural Selection process. It doesn't help it.
I'm quite curious, how do you think the universe and life began?
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Old 09-25-2014, 03:46 PM
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I'm quite curious, how do you think the universe and life began?
I don't think you can look at how complex and finely tuned The Universe is and come to the conclusion it structured and ordered itself from Nothing or by random chance. The probabilities that our reality was built this way are just not workable mathematically.

The laws that govern the Universe did not write themselves. The obvious engineering and design behind kinds/types/body plans show an obvious creative mind behind their development. You don't see mis-happen and randomly formed life. Quite the contrary. You see life with specific functions that supports other life.

The harmony and symbiosis between plants and animals. The seasons. The self healing and self replicating functions of all life. It's too complex. Time doesn't make things more complex. Quite the contrary actually. Time = Entropy and Entropy damages and erodes genetic code. Things become more disorganized over time.

Clearly aliens didn't build the universe. Didn't write it's laws. If aliens existed they would be ruled under the same laws that govern the entire universe. Time/Space/Matter came into existence with "The Big Bang". If you look at the essence of Matter, a table for instance, 99% of what you perceive as solid matter is actually only about 1-2% Matter. Your reality is governed by how your brain is processing data and electrical signals. Think of your life as literally a virtual reality. Your body an organic machine that temporarily hosts your eternal soul in this reality. There is a creative mind that exists outside Time and Space that is behind our Reality. It's all about perception and perspective.

Time/Chance is not a creative force. Consciousness, Moral absolutes and Love are Spiritual forces and Creative forces beyond the 5 senses. Beyond the physical world. A Creator would obviously let himself be known to his creation. He would want his creations to behave in certain ways to protect them from themselves (sin). He would lead by example through actions, not words, as to what the Love of a parent really is for their children (Self Sacrifice) but at the same time He would want his children to "choose" to love Him willingly out of their own Free Will. He wouldn't create "I Love You" robots.

I firmly believe that Jesus Christ answers all of those questions perfectly. His life. His teachings. His Death and His resurrection. That's not about a religion either by the way. Religion has nothing to do with it. Mankind by his very nature is deceitful and corrupt. If you rely on mankind for Truth you are putting your "Faith" in the wrong place.

Now it's perfectly understandable if you do not share that view and there are plenty of people that believe in Intelligent Design who are not Christians. They are perfectly logical and reasonable people that see the obvious intelligence and creativity in all life. Personally I don't think anyone can be "convinced" to believe in God. Through your own journey in Life you're going to go through shit that leads you down that path, but you're never going to take that first step until you learn grace, humility and forgiveness. These are spiritual things. Intangible things, but it doesn't make them any less real.

This is the problem that Evolutionists can't deal with. They've become too comfortable in their ivory towers dictating how things are to everyone else, except all of their assertions are based upon frauds like Piltdown Man, The Peppered Moth, the bogus embryo drawing ect. When challenged they run from the debate like Leewrong or they call you retarded without offering any rebuttal.

I hope that answers your question.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:50 PM
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this is u, just calm down ffs

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Old 09-25-2014, 02:11 PM
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this is u, just calm down ffs

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You're one post shy of 1100 posts outside RnF since April

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Old 09-25-2014, 02:32 PM
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You're one post shy of 1100 posts outside RnF since April

lol
yeah cus I contribute, you dip shit. Every one of those posts is either to help someone with a problem, show a sweet gif screen shot of classic EQ, or post information about using text triggers or playing a class

oh yea, and selling my fucking 7337 ass motherfuckn solo kill loot in EC.

you have 1,100 fucking posts, IN THIS THREAD.

so please. Take a step back, and fuck your face.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:17 PM
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Complexity arose with time. In my opinion it started with a piece of self replicating rna and got more complex from there.
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