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Yes, it promotes "competition" 75 29.18%
No, its an unneccesary non-classic time sink 182 70.82%
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:34 AM
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:21 PM
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I mentioned it in another thread but if you were even caught playing on someone else's account they'd slam you. I knew I heard of it happening but not to anyone I personally knew.

And yes, the 14$ a month thing is quite valid for people having waves of alts.

Some people have many very geared characters and more are probably on the way.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:33 PM
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Some of these rule propositions seem a little extreme to me. IMO, just let the players play already and stop pretending you're being altruistic when you're just trying to stop people from playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Sorry, in this game there are winners and losers. This is neither a cooperative game nor a competitive game, its what the player makes of it. You can't dictate the terms of how people play this strongly (I'm talking specifically about the end game) without destroying what classic EQ stood for.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:08 PM
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Some of these rule propositions seem a little extreme to me. IMO, just let the players play already and stop pretending you're being altruistic when you're just trying to stop people from playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Sorry, in this game there are winners and losers. This is neither a cooperative game nor a competitive game, its what the player makes of it. You can't dictate the terms of how people play this strongly (I'm talking specifically about the end game) without destroying what classic EQ stood for.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:12 PM
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Some of these rule propositions seem a little extreme to me. IMO, just let the players play already and stop pretending you're being altruistic when you're just trying to stop people from playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Sorry, in this game there are winners and losers. This is neither a cooperative game nor a competitive game, its what the player makes of it. You can't dictate the terms of how people play this strongly (I'm talking specifically about the end game) without destroying what classic EQ stood for.
my god dude, god help your soul
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Some of these rule propositions seem a little extreme to me. IMO, just let the players play already and stop pretending you're being altruistic when you're just trying to stop people from playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Sorry, in this game there are winners and losers. This is neither a cooperative game nor a competitive game, its what the player makes of it. You can't dictate the terms of how people play this strongly (I'm talking specifically about the end game) without destroying what classic EQ stood for.
If it's not a cooperative game, why do you require the cooperation of 50 of your guildmates to kill a dragon?
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:45 PM
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With that said, I'm for some of the non-classic changes that have happened in the past on this server. I support the ban on boxing because of the greatly extended content timeline on this server. I mean, the entire server would be level 60 if boxing was allowed at this point (I think we're coming up on 18 months since Kunark release). Some things need to be done to maintain a balance, and generally I think Nilbog and Rogean have done a great job with that. But the constant whining about the raid scene, I don't see why. I really don't. Make some specific FTE shout changes and more random repops, boom I think it's mostly solved. Any enforced rotations or more rule lawyering burdens on the players or GMs is not in the best interest of the server, imho.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:13 PM
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Do you really think limiting 1 player to 1 account (if this is even enforceable) would accomplish much of anything? I'm guessing that the players who are currently willing and able to buy multiple raid-ready characters also happen to be the players who would be willing and able to PL + gear out multiple raid-ready characters on their 1 account if such a limit was enforced.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:14 PM
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Ok, so we all know now where Rogean stands on the things I've talked about. Here's to the future of GM-enforced rotations, bans on account sales, more spyware, more rules, more non-classic coding/gameplay changes to appease the poor players who are stomped over by the big bad TMO? Am I right Rog?

Oh, and also, am I not allowed to have a valid opinion because I'm in TMO? No one's completely objective in this world.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:23 PM
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Ok, so we all know now where Rogean stands on the things I've talked about. Here's to the future of GM-enforced rotations, more spyware, more rules, more non-classic coding changes to appease the poor players who are stomped over by the big bad TMO? Am I right Rog?

Oh, and also, am I not allowed to have a valid opinion because I'm in TMO? No one's completely objective in this world.
Your problem is that nothing in your post was relevant to the raid changes. You just went on some hyperbole about how the server is going in the direction of nazi germany because the GM's are going to enforce rotations, when the latter is obviously not going to happen.

Also why do you keep saying the changes are "non-classic" when they are, in fact, much closer to classic than the current system?
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