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Old 02-20-2018, 04:26 PM
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There's the issue of globalization in America that just makes a mess out of literally everything. Mass shootings like this don't happen when communities are smaller and close knit but you get all sorts of social problems when you try to jam in illegal immigrants and war torn migrants into schools with regular americans.

For example, school shootings like this didn't exist 50-75 years ago. Try and figure out the difference.

Not only that but a lot of people, foreigners especially, don't understand that America was founded on the right to bare arms. America exists because we rebelled against a tyrannical government. No matter what side of politics you are, most seem to think the other side is Hitler, and in WW2 Hitler had the Nazi's round up Jews who were disarmed because Germany was disarmed and they walked them right into death camps. You better believe that situation would of went differently they had an armed society.....

I lose my mind when I'm traveling and a foreigner criticizes American's guns law. It's usually from western european countries so I just rag on them for not even having the right to 'free speech'.
Yeah good times I remember the ubiquitous AR-15 sales from 75 years ago. There are definitely zero other potentially confounding variables between mass shootings then and now excluding demographics and immigration
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:44 PM
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Yeah good times I remember the ubiquitous AR-15 sales from 75 years ago. There are definitely zero other potentially confounding variables between mass shootings then and now excluding demographics and immigration
My guess is if we fix demographics and illegal immigration, the problems will dry up, but it's all a symptom of the multicultural kick our corrupt elites are on.

A lot of these problems come back to the idea that our family units aren't as strong anymore. Our communities aren't as strong. People didn't shoot up schools when everyone knew everyone in town. Multiculturalism pushes the world to be more connected and as a result our parents and immediate community start becoming less important. Real people being authority figures and guides become progressively replaced by Big Brother government with no personal connection. It's just a nameless cold face. With this we lose the closeness of our communities and your neighbor starts becoming more alien and your enemy in these cases.

Without the closeness of family unit we also have mental health issues catastrophically rising as well. Read statistics on the average mental health of a person coming from a single mother household. I imagine this rise in big pharma thats connected to globalism isn't helping the issue either. The amount of young people on anti depressants and wanting to mutilate their genitals is disturbing as well and I think deeply connected to shootings.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:50 PM
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i'd take those over gun bans anyday

too bad our government HATES funding education (both parties) and the populace only wants legislation that is related to "trigger issues"

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thats why it could(should) be a state issue.

But... it turns out that "all american people, both parties" are the problem with funding education. So we dont see them investing in their own states education programs, instead they want the feds to do it. Why? Makes no sense to me.

Its funny how libs be like, "we want socialism!" but they just dont do it in their own states. There is no reason schools in blue states shouldnt be the best in the world, hell california makes enough money off taxes to pay for all the blue states education if they wanted to... and yet.... where does that money go?

Proof is in the pudding, and the proof is that the left is just talk. If they wanted to reduce gun deaths, actual gun deaths, they would increase police prescence in minority communities, but they simply want less WHITE people to die... and im sorry, white people are going to die so long as we have the second amendment.

Repealing the second amendment will not end gang violence, but they dont care about that!
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:53 PM
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I definitely agree that the disintegration of family strength creates mental health issues which lead to catastrophic personal problems.

I read an interesting book about spirituality as a means of community connection - no matter what religion or whatever, basically if people felt connected with their community and participated in life-enforcing events (dancing, singing, weddings, group rituals), there was an improvement in the population's mental health and lowering of addiction.

However, I disagree that the problem is multi-culturalism. America has always been multi-cultural and I consider it one of our greatest strengths. I think the de-valuation of immediate family is more a symptom of American culture over-valuing individualism as opposed to valuing the family unit over one's self. I certainly was raised with ideals that led to choosing isolated individualism in prideful pursuits, and I would also argue that these same ideals led me to cocaine abuse as a form of narcissism in my early 20s.

The best things in life are basic. Good food and being around people you love. Meeting other people. Learning to be happy for others.

Vladimir Putin ( my favorite world leader) does a good job of really encouraging nuclear family values. I wish he was our tyrant.
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I definitely agree that the disintegration of family strength creates mental health issues which lead to catastrophic personal problems.

I read an interesting book about spirituality as a means of community connection - no matter what religion or whatever, basically if people felt connected with their community and participated in life-enforcing events (dancing, singing, weddings, group rituals), there was an improvement in the population's mental health and lowering of addiction.

However, I disagree that the problem is multi-culturalism. America has always been multi-cultural and I consider it one of our greatest strengths. I think the de-valuation of immediate family is more a symptom of American culture over-valuing individualism as opposed to valuing the family unit over one's self. I certainly was raised with ideals that led to choosing isolated individualism in prideful pursuits, and I would also argue that these same ideals led me to cocaine abuse as a form of narcissism in my early 20s.

The best things in life are basic. Good food and being around people you love. Meeting other people. Learning to be happy for others.

Vladimir Putin ( my favorite world leader) does a good job of really encouraging nuclear family values. I wish he was our tyrant.
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Teppler, you are correct. That said, less guns in the hands of punk young dudes might also be good. Personally, I want the 1st amendment repealed and mandated church attendance. Alas, that would be self defeating because we humans never appreciate a good thing
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Well I’m this new America it’s safe to say the majority of p99ers deserve to go to prison for 4 years: https://www.10tv.com/article/teen-se...rd-davidson-hs

This is shocking to me. The left should be outraged but they probably love this.

Sad. This is the same is sending a kid to prison for murder for listening to Marilyn.
Oversentenced. 2 years is more in line and what he would get for assault with a deadly weapon assuming no fatality or handicapping.
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