Veeshan's Peak - Non disputable zone

[Zeelot]

Even if there were rules. How can you evaluate whether a player is 'pulling' an aoe wurm right as an oppositions puller goes near a few mobs in order to break his invis or whether it was malicious.
I have been killed by my own guildies numerous times because they do something stupid like accidentally aggro see invis + set off ae fear right as I run past drakes.

If VP had rules, just running through and accidentally aggroing a see invis could become grounds for suspension.

Also, who is to regulate guilds from sharing similar camp spots and fighting the dragon in a spot where the other raid gets killed by aoes.

[arsenalpow]

How is this currently any different from any other kill in the game? There's already accidental trains, common engagement spots (TT zoneline for Sev?), etc etc

[arsenalpow]

Too lazy to quote - concerning memblur, I'm saying it was a fiasco because it was allowed for a long time and then it wasn't. It's obviously stupid and not working as intended.

[Zeelot]

Lol. Ninja looting is a p99 serverwide rule and not part of this discussion. An argument in favor of ninjalooting anywhere is stupid anyways. We are talking about 'raid disputes,' training in particular what we are talking about.

[Elements]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. Ninja looting is a p99 serverwide rule and not part of this discussion. An argument in favor of ninjalooting anywhere is stupid anyways. We are talking about 'raid disputes,' training in particular what we are talking about.

No training is also a server wide rule yet you cant make an argument for it without falling on the crutch of no CSR intervention.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. Ninja looting is a p99 serverwide rule and not part of this discussion. An argument in favor of ninjalooting anywhere is stupid anyways. We are talking about 'raid disputes,' training in particular what we are talking about.

Rogean made a statement about ninjalooting during the time that TMO and IB were going at it in VP.

He explicitly stated it was cheap, cowardly and low for any guild to do it.

This was during the time that TMO and IB were training each other and going for raid targets. TMO downed a few dragons (PD, etc) while IB failed to and then, when they failed to kill or stop TMO, went on to try and ninjaloot because it was their last hope of denying the loot to TMO.

So, basically, regardless of what anyone thinks or deems logical, the law was set.

You can't ninjaloot, you can't exploit, you can't go into VP and send racist hate tells to people/gms, you can't go into VP and use SEQ/MQ, etc.

training is allowed, kill stealing is allowed, memblurring is allowed (as long as it's not fully healing targets), pull stealing is allowed, etc.

(not a response to you directly, Zee, just adding.)

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Too lazy to quote - concerning memblur, I'm saying it was a fiasco because it was allowed for a long time and then it wasn't. It's obviously stupid and not working as intended.

Aight, thought you had gone off the deep end.

[Elements]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean made a statement about ninjalooting during the time that TMO and IB were going at it in VP.

He explicitly stated it was cheap, cowardly and low for any guild to do it.

This was during the time that TMO and IB were training each other and going for raid targets. TMO downed a few dragons (PD, etc) while IB failed to and then, when they failed to kill or stop TMO, went on to try and ninjaloot because it was their last hope of denying the loot to TMO.

So, basically, regardless of what anyone thinks or deems logical, the law was set.

You can't ninjaloot, you can't exploit, you can't go into VP and send racist hate tells to people/gms, you can't go into VP and use SEQ/MQ, etc.

training is allowed, kill stealing is allowed, memblurring is allowed (as long as it's not fully healing targets), pull stealing is allowed, etc.

(not a response to you directly, Zee, just adding.)



Aight, thought you had gone off the deep end.

Quote or it didnt happen. Not stickied in the server rules or global rules. Either way no one cares. Nobody wants to ninja loot TMOs kills. Its just an example of how arbitrarily these rules are made.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quote or it didnt happen. Not stickied in the server rules or global rules. Either way no one cares. Nobody wants to ninja loot TMOs kills. Its just an example of how arbitrarily these rules are made.

Ask Rogean yourself, "broseph", on how he feels about ninjalooting.

It was in-game and I doubt anyone cared enough to "SS" it for proof.

You can almost always find Rogean on p99 irc

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quote or it didnt happen. Not stickied in the server rules or global rules. Either way no one cares. Nobody wants to ninja loot TMOs kills. Its just an example of how arbitrarily these rules are made.

Really? Ask perun about that.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? Ask perun about that.

Wasn't perun who was trying to ninja loot at that time iirc.