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11-23-2012, 02:40 PM
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That attitude Rogean has is a huge cop out. That's like a the head of a company blaming his companies failure on the employee's instead of management. What player here has more influence than he does? What player here holds the keys to the server moving forward in a more positive direction? Rogean has this power but blames us for him not being motivated to use it. If you wait your whole life for someone to push you in the right direction you're going to starve to death. I remember the community especially on the forum was a lot worse previously than it is today. I also remember the names of those people and realize that 98% of them have moved on. The rest of the people here are the ones that just want to play. Y
Yet here we are taking the blame. Here we are being ignored and chastised for the behavior of people who aren't around. The staff seems to be on edge, bans becoming more frequent and more trivial action becomes ban worthy. More blame is placed on the community and more negative statements about how we suck and are going to be ignored until we have decided to stop sucking(even though we suck 98% less already). I think the time has come for Rogean to take the reigns and decide what direction he wants the server to go in. Ignoring problems doesn't fix them it makes them worse. Stating that you are going to address problems publicly and then ignoring them anyway makes the community worse. Take some responsibility or revel in a cesspool, the choice is his and not ours. | ||
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11-23-2012, 03:06 PM
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Rogean if you are gunna be such a toolbag and not update or work on the server at all then can you give the server over to nilbog so he can patch all these fixes in and add some simple things like yellow text that would bring back players? I honestly feel bad for nilbog. He is really busy with RL and blue server but he still tries his best to listen to and help the red playerbase and try and make us all happy. He would like to do some things but it always comes down to that he needs rogean to patch the server and rogean cant because of "insert excuse here". Put this project in the right hands and re-write the wrongs brah.
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11-23-2012, 03:06 PM
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Ya, I'm calling bullshit on that one too. If Rogean actually said he wasn't going to do things for r99 because of trolls, thats an obvious cop out. He doesn't do stuff for red because he's been collecting light sabers for the last year.
I'm sure the dude is busy and has stuff he wants to do in his down time, but he's shown absolutely none of the interest in red that he had when he promised to start the server. Either way, I still enjoy what is offered even if the server pop would, no doubt, be double what it is today with just a little attention and communication.
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11-23-2012, 05:19 PM
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11-23-2012, 10:37 PM
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Thing is, Rogean is right. Alot of the vocal forum community are sociopathic scumbags who for example pick on a guy mercilessly because hes in a wheelchair for christ's sake.
Being cruel and stupid is like a badge of honor to them, as is disrupting and try to demoralize people from playing on the server. I dont even wanna think about the amount of abuse Rogean probably had to take since he started this server. I would be somewhat pissed too if i was thinking that people would be all pleased with having a pvp server like blue and then having to deal with that amount of stupid bully hate and watching assholes trying to tear down his labor of love. That being said, there is another part of the server community, and its them that Rogean is letting down. I mean if he purely doesnt have the time, whatever, thats life. But if hes punishing the whole server because the majority of holocaust were idiots, thats not right. Like Mostbitter pointed out, theyre mostly gone from the game anyway. And if you want them to stay gone, and make the right part of the community flourish, take away most of their opportunity for fun, the ruleset allowing them to grief people excessively. There i talked about xp loss again. Again i think Rogean is right, but i also think that its a cop out to use that as an excuse to abandon the server, because there is quite a big job to do on red if its going to be salvaged and not die a slow death. Im pretty sure thats not because of Cast posting pictures of some guy sucking a cock on the forums. There isnt an abandoned thread like "What do YOU want?" called the plugging code or something where Rogean asked people if they thought it was a good idea to implement a plugging code and then never posted in that thread again because Casey is making yet another thread about "******s". There wasnt a super popular thread about yellow text abandoned where even Nilbog voted because Cwall is saying nanananana i can make a troll account in 2mins. Its a huge stretch to try to put that lack of communication and abandonment on the shoulder of bad apples. Those type of incidents create cynicism about whats said, whats dangled in front of us as a possibility and whats actually done. Part of the problem also seems to be that dev team is like ostriches on some issues, head in the sand entrenched in their positions not making a move on flaws that were exposed for close to a year now. Pinning all the problems on the bad apples of the server is an example of that ostrich-like attitude. The entitlement thing can also swing both ways. Since youre playing for free, were allowed to treat you like shit. I wont go into the details but people who know who i am can take the hint. If youre not willing to admit shit happened on both sides... theres truly no communication to be had. P.S. : what Mostbitter said 2nd P.S. what hipponipple said Quote:
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#9
11-28-2012, 12:59 PM
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Well when it comes down to it we are most likely on our own. There are two things I would like to see on this server that I believe would be a big improvement. One of which we would need Rogean for.
1) Yellow Text - A very powerful tool. a) No more bullshit. It gets rid of trolls and no skill pvpers because they can't hide behind lies. Right now there is no proof of kills unless you take screenshots and upload them to a forum. That is stupid and most players don't do this so we end up hearing from the same 5 obnoxious players day in and day out as they kill each other and brag about their skills. b) Helps pinpoint someone that is bind camping. Most likely someone hated enough to be bind camped has someone that can come try to help them if they see their friend is getting killed over and over while afk. c) Makes establishing territories tougher since everyone knows where you made your last kill. Some may think this is a bad thing, I don't. d) Restating what was already said, gives people bragging rights without being obnoxious and people know you aren't full of shit. 2) A guild needs to rise up and compete with Nihilum at their own game. Right now Full Retard is doing a good job but are they any real competition when it comes to controlling real content or are they just picking off a player here and there when they are alone. The server needs at least 2 top guilds that compete for PvE content. I know everyone hates the term PvE but when it comes down to it that is the only way to provoke the best PvP there is. Unfortunately the ones that level up to 60 and want to start raiding in Full Retard will probably just move to Nihilum because it is easy instead of recreating that atmosphere on their own in a new guild. | ||
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#10
11-28-2012, 01:00 PM
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The good news is the community doesn't need Rogean for number 2 above and I think it is actually more important than yellow text.
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