What would it take for you to switch to Red99?

[rugerx]

Would you visit an asylum for a picnic? That sums it up.

=)

[Lagaidh]

I remember my only PvP server experience in EQ. I can't recall which was the FFA server (SZ?), but that is the one I tried. I rolled my customary DWF PAL. I dropped into the world in the customary spawn point in Butcherblock. There were two level 2 dwarves just waiting there.

They bent me over, dwarf raped me and corpse camped the spot for my next spawn. After I crashed out of EQ I thought "So that's PvP?" and have never played on a PvP server in any game ever again.

I did play WoW for a few years and that wintery zone in the Wrath of the Lich King expansion was very, very well executed PvP in my opinion. I think it was Winterspring... kind of like an arena in EQ. You step into it and you are flagged PvP. There were scripted battles between the two "sides" determined by your race. WoW made PvP engaging and accessible. I never willingly engaged in PvP after my anecdote until then.

Of course... WoW made everything MMO-related easier and accessible, so it's quite possible the PvP sucked donkey balls. I could only compare it to being raped upon newbie spawn in EQ, so it seemed better.

[Wolfgang]

ill agree, the lack of hard coded teams really sucks but red99 is all we got atm. the server can be a harsh place for new players who dont actively seek a guild/friends. however once you start rollin with a crew or have a guild to back you up its not so bad.

tldr make friends, join guild, dont take pvp personal

[Torrinn]

We used to abuse the level limitation hard. My guild on Sullon was FoH and we always made sure we had clerics that were well below the level of our main force on hand so that they couldn't be attacked unless the other guys brought a bunch of lowbies with them, too. It sucks to be fighting someone and they have a cleric out of PvP range casting complete heals and you can't do anything about it.

[Torrinn]

One thing that would have balanced the teams on Sullon would have been to give the 'light' races good and neutral deities that approved of the use of necromancy. Then you could have Erudite, Human, and Gnome necros/sk's on the good and neutral teams. Maybe something like that could be added to red 99.

[Wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Torrinn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing that would have balanced the teams on Sullon would have been to give the 'light' races good and neutral deities that approved of the use of necromancy. Then you could have Erudite, Human, and Gnome necros/sk's on the good and neutral teams. Maybe something like that could be added to red 99.

why the hell would sks be on the good team lol. defeats the purpose of deity based teams. SZ had it right, 3 factions needed for balance. The problem is most pvpers wanna play an evil race like iksar or dark elf. all good though still the best pvp server imo. also having no level range kept that OOR healer problem out.

[LizardNecro]

Originally Posted by Torrinn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing that would have balanced the teams on Sullon would have been to give the 'light' races good and neutral deities that approved of the use of necromancy. Then you could have Erudite, Human, and Gnome necros/sk's on the good and neutral teams. Maybe something like that could be added to red 99.

I think that's a great idea.

Also, my point in making the teams "fair" was for raiding. Necros were a big raid advantage because of summon corpse. Evil team had a big advantage because of that, although the pvp aspect was an issue too.

Just as having "good" necros and sk's, there could be "evil" druids (human agnostic maybe?) and "evil" paladins.

[Brimacombe]

Well, since the population on SZ was overwhelmingly evil, it made many players take the path of least resistance. Any dead fish can go with the current. Being good on SZ was about as rough as it gets, most good team had an iron will and a sense of grim determination. Many others copped out and switched teams. Either way, it was a good time and certainly made me learn how to PVP quickly.
That being said, I like the idea of a no-teams PVP server. It would be more realistic. I say I like the idea because I admit I have not experienced it. I am sure there would be social reject bottom feeders, but possibly self policing would keep that down.

The problem with PVP servers is you are always going to find those people who kick dogs for enjoyment and pull the wings off flies. These people are the ones who generally prey on people new to the server because they are bullies at heart. Dust yourself off, get up and get back to what you were doing. Although this will always happen to some degree, such people quickly find themselves shunned and eventually wander off the game to go spit in old ladies faces and giggle with their friends about it. The rest are generally solid human beings.

It is a red server, it's EQ with the safety off. A thin skin and a tendency to be a sore loser will send you back to blue in minutes. This is not because red servers are all jerks, but because some people are not accustomed to getting back on a horse they fall off of.

-Brimacombe

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Brimacombe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any dead fish can go with the current.

I can't believe I'm almost 35 and have never heard or read this phrase before now.

I love it!

[mwatt]

If Red99 were the last game on Earth, I still wouldn't play. I dislike PVP in general and find it completely antithematic and abhorrent in EQ.