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Old 10-23-2011, 12:55 PM
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Why don't you make a new thread, point out all of the things that have changed since his post was made, be clear and polite, say please, and hope for the best?
A thread here, or a bug report? I don't know if a new bug report is warranted, and I'm not sure a new thread is necessary since this one is covering it nicely. Yeah people are upset here, but I don't blame them. It's a nerf without the corresponding bonuses that helped offset it in classic. I'm not too happy about that myself.

I'm wondering if instead it might be best to bump the old bug report with the new info? I don't know how this forum tolerates bumping; some discourage it, others encourage it rather than starting a new thread on the same subject.

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When it gets switched back and forth and back again, it's not an effort to be classic, it's just an effort to nerf pet classes.
There shouldn't be an effort to nerf pet classes if this is supposed to emulate classic.

And it's sad if they're screwing over blue players because of the new red server. Bad enough the population is gonna be split.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:01 PM
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Lazortag - the guy that just argues the counter point to the majority in every post..

You are a gluton for negativity arent you bro ? Lol.. i dont get it.
I'm not sure how I'm the one being negative:

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the devs don't give a fuck about classic, regardless of the impression that they leave. they want classic 2.0, with their own set of balance fixes. which is fine, they just need to call it what it is and stop hiding behind that lame old excuse of "it's classic."
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And they should be fixed, yet they are reluctant to do so. Because it makes pet classes "too powerful".

But as soon as they find something that makes us too powerful that isnt classic = THEY ARE ALL OVER IT.

We have been complaing about pet taunt for months now, they are well aware of it, but wont change it.

We have been complaining about the retarded 10 yard distance to send pets after mobs problem ( should be the whole zone ), they are well aware of it, but wont change it.

I could go on, but I think you understand.
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logged onto my enchanter, put on lfg. let's see how long i have to wait to find a group today, maybe 2-3 hours if i'm lucky.
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/sigh

I guess it's time to roll a druid or something as my necro is now pointless. There's no way in hell I'll be able to out dps my pet without pulling aggro constantly.
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Tired of random nerfs to "classic" when so much isn't classic


I'm telling you to just be polite and use proper channels to address what you think is an inconsistency; everyone else is whining, saying they'll never play their character again, and acting like the devs owe them something.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:01 PM
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So the solution would be to stop whining and politely write a bug report about how weapon delay affected pet delay in classic, and show that in line with other recent nerfs this would not be a problem for the server's integrity, and maybe you'll get what you want. But your attitude (as well as most of the other posters in this thread) is probably the least conducive to getting anything changed in your favor.

There's also a bug report about how pets didn't mitigate damage in classic (either attacks missed or hit for full). If that ends up being true (and I have no idea if it is), then you'll be even more likely to get pet delay fixed, as well as sword of runes proccing on non-summoned mobs probably.

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Did you even check to see if this is functioning as you say, or are you just trying to be annoying?


As others have said, almost every single pet problem has been posted. They give us the cold shoulder normally, and when they dont do that, they tell us things like" not gonna happen" Pet classes are fine the way they are"

You are mistaking my ( and others ) attidues now, which became this way from how we were treated, from when we poted bug reports that were clear, consise and to the point filled with facts.

The pet mitigation thing was limited to PC's attacking pets in PVP. That post was made in the blue bug forum cause half the red retards cant post in their own damn PVP bug forum, which is why you are confused.

And im logging in now to verify pet damage with a wieghted axe, if I can find one in OT, hope they didnt reset merchants..
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:08 PM
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I'm not sure how I'm the one being negative:













I'm telling you to just be polite and use proper channels to address what you think is an inconsistency; everyone else is whining, saying they'll never play their character again, and acting like the devs owe them something.

And im telling you that most of us have tried that, over and over and over. At some point, you gotta decide that instead of being the living definition of insanity, to try something different. Im being coarse now because polite did not work.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:13 PM
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You guys never tried bug reporting it after the recent nerfs were made. How hard is this to understand? When Song of Twilight was nerfed I was able to get the mez cap raised on Crission's Pixie Strike, but I couldn't get it raised before. What's the harm in trying? And even if you can't get it changed, it's silly to complain about it. It's not like Bards complain about every nerf because swarm kiting still hasn't been fixed.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:15 PM
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I'm not sure how I'm the one being negative:

I'm telling you to just be polite and use proper channels to address what you think is an inconsistency; everyone else is whining, saying they'll never play their character again, and acting like the devs owe them something.
forming consensus is a large part of getting things changed, in real life and here. being able to essentially demolish any argument that comes along and posting lots of little reasons why this change is retarded convinces people that there's a large consensus that it's a problem, the logic is sound, and it needs to be fixed.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:26 PM
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You guys never tried bug reporting it after the recent nerfs were made. How hard is this to understand? When Song of Twilight was nerfed I was able to get the mez cap raised on Crission's Pixie Strike, but I couldn't get it raised before. What's the harm in trying? And even if you can't get it changed, it's silly to complain about it. It's not like Bards complain about every nerf because swarm kiting still hasn't been fixed.


Hmm lets see ,there are prolly 10-20x ( maybe even 50x as many if you dont count alts under lvl 40 ) as many people playing pet classes.

Do you think there could possibaly be a corelation between that fact, and how you tend to see more pet class players complain? Do not get all smug saying bards dont comlplain.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:33 PM
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You guys never tried bug reporting it after the recent nerfs were made. How hard is this to understand? When Song of Twilight was nerfed I was able to get the mez cap raised on Crission's Pixie Strike, but I couldn't get it raised before. What's the harm in trying? And even if you can't get it changed, it's silly to complain about it. It's not like Bards complain about every nerf because swarm kiting still hasn't been fixed.
you are implying that it's some kind of bargaining process to get changes to your class that reflect the way it was in classic? oh, you nerfed us good sir, now would you be so kind as to give us another pending change that was classic?

for fuck's sake. the server's either classic or it's not. this is getting ridiculous.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:04 PM
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I like how people say the solution is to group more. I started an enchanter to get groups but I cant cast any spells besides buffs or mob trains straight to me (don't remember that on classic). Also have you guys played a lowbie toon recently? Where the hell are the warriors? Im stuck grouping with hybrids which again suck exp. All the exp changes in this game almost made me quit live originally. I played troll sk. Sucked ass being passed for groups because of exp penalty.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:02 PM
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You guys never tried bug reporting it after the recent nerfs were made. How hard is this to understand? When Song of Twilight was nerfed I was able to get the mez cap raised on Crission's Pixie Strike, but I couldn't get it raised before. What's the harm in trying? And even if you can't get it changed, it's silly to complain about it. It's not like Bards complain about every nerf because swarm kiting still hasn't been fixed.
It's a thread discussing the recent changes.. thats what forums ARE FOR.. discussing changes... if you like them.. if you dont.. and why.. you just come here to argue dude and its quite annoying always seeing your negative posts... we understand the counter points and we dont need a cheerleader like your self preaching WHAT YOU THINK is the dev's stance on the issue..

please just stop lol
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