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08-21-2011, 03:58 AM
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We didn't think what you said. We thought our agreement with TMO was between just us. It didn't guarantee us anything as far as other guilds. The only way as you say to, "safeguard" against what we know their M.O. to be is sit our guild on the spawn point for however many hours and fore go our sky raid? Isn't that precisely what you do if you don't want change? They act a certain way, and get what they want. Like children or animals, if you continue to reward them for acting a certain way they will continue to act a certain way. If they get what they want from doing certain things they will continue to act that way. We didn't decide to ignore anything and try sniping anything.
We could have sat our raid force on the spawn and acted like that and how would that change anything? You all want change step up. No one who can affect any positive change has over the past year, and you still want to rely on them to do so? Stand up to the bullying and affect change. Sticking up for yourself is not the same as going and picking on someone weaker then you. They are bullies who think they are entitled. Every time we raid we work something out with whatever other guild is planning it, or is where we chose to raid. The ONLY guild that refuses to do so is the guild you defend.
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08-21-2011, 04:01 AM
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Shaere/Taken, TR, TMO, and every other guild in this thread is responsible for the server's current raid scene. Instead of pointing fingers at each other laying blame on them for causing the current clusterfuck, how about you look at yourself in the mirror. It's been shown in this thread that you're all too busy blaming each other. You cant worry about what the other guilds are doing. You either make a conscious choice to change the way YOU behave, or you become part of the problem. The way other people play should have no affect on how you want to behave in game, whether it be on a personal level or a raid level.
"But they did it first, so we're doing it too." Is the most childish bullshit I've ever heard. This is directed right at you Shaere, you posted almost this exact statement a few posts back. Learn to have conviction and standards instead of caving to utter immature bullshit behavior. | ||
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08-21-2011, 04:03 AM
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Ok so I've been lurking for awhile here's what I've seen from here and other R&F posts.
TR wants raid mobs. TR doesn't want to poopsock but if put in a situation where if they don't sock it they won't get the mob then they sock it. TR does not what to share anything with Taken. (Could be simplified to TR does not what to share anything, but it has been known to happen). TMO and Taken were in Sky counting their chickens before they hatched. TR ported in and claimed camp before them. TMO and Taken offered to share the mobs they had talked about splitting, but no longer had claim on to in hopes TR would accept and everyone could walk away with something. TR knowing by server rules it was all theirs now said no. TMO and Taken think it's bullshit and snipe OoA anyway after TR had to camp due it summoning their pullers to another island because they engaged and shouldn't have. TMO and Taken come to R&F and explain they work together, and why what they did was justified. Ok so maybe just Taken trying to justify it there. I love R&F it's given me lots to read and laugh about. I think the justification of pulling a mob because it would have been theirs had they planned better made me laugh the most. Well no, more the fact that every week it changes who the bad guy is makes me laugh the most. OMG TR petitioned and got loot FU, OMG TMO trained TR FU, OMG Taken exploited FU. Lulz for reals, keep it up guys. | ||
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08-21-2011, 04:16 AM
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08-21-2011, 04:20 AM
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Given how good Taken, TMO and TR are at dispute resolution, I'm surprised the UN hasn't asked them to solve the israeli-palestinian conflict yet!
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