Found my first a-hole on the Blue Server

[Duik]

The trouble is a highly sought after item deops from a trivial (to a lvl 55- 60) who get DKP for farming it.

Trivial loot code reimplimented in those zones with items like this while beong "NOT CLASSIC" would stop this rubbish.

Also stop being dicks to each other.

[Naethyn]

Trivial loot code would not stop it from being the most important mob on the server.

[Duik]

But it would stop 60s popping in to fte it.

Play an alt of a level to hunt it.

Like people have vox/naggy alts frozen at 52

[Duik]

As an aside if i was a dev id just change it. (accidentally) Not make an entry in the patch notes and remove any in-game messages about it being trivial and no loot drops from the mob.

Classic players absolutely love discovering new things...

[loramin]

Originally Posted by druidbob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry but this is simply not true, or at least it is not how it is enforced by GMs. And I know this because I personally ate a suspension for doing exactly what you you are claiming in this thread to be allowed ( claiming fte on a named mob when another group was established at the camp). So either you are wrong, or I want those five days back.

Had the other group killed any of the mobs at that camp?

[druidbob]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had the other group killed any of the mobs at that camp?

The mob in question was vilefang, the other group was down at the water killing rats and snakes, our puller ran down and sniped VF on spawn because we were under the impression that it was an fte mob, they petition and the GM rules that it was a camp and because they had "an established presence" at the water that it was their camp. Our chipped fang gets deleted and we eat a 5 day. And no they did not kill the previous VF.

[loramin]

So that's a different scenario: in dungeon zones you can claim multiple mobs in very close proximity as a camp. In this case, it sounds like the group did have the claim to the camp, because they had killed a (different) mob previously.

However, I (greatly) sympathize with your point that it's impossible to know what counts as a camp sometime, and the staff does change their opinions from case to case. I also sympathize with the staff: having to consult a rules bible every time they interact with players would make their (volunteer) lives much harder.

My "solution" has been to put a lot of time and effort into https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rulings. It doesn't yet have a ruling for Vilefang, but if you can post whatever the GM told you (and when) I can add it, and it will at least help educate future players.

[druidbob]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So that's a different scenario: in dungeon zones you can claim multiple mobs in very close proximity as a camp. In this case, it sounds like the group did have the claim to the camp, because they had killed a (different) mob previously.

However, I (greatly) sympathize with your point that it's impossible to know what counts as a camp sometime, and the staff does change their opinions from case to case. I also sympathize with the staff: having to consult a rules bible every time they interact with players would make their (volunteer) lives much harder.

My "solution" has been to put a lot of time and effort into https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rulings. It doesn't yet have a ruling for Vilefang, but if you can post whatever the GM told you (and when) I can add it, and it will at least help educate future players.

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But then wouldn't that be the same case here? The Warrens is a dungeon, assuming OP was killing kobolds in the surrounding area would he not have the same claim to the king as that group had to VF?

[shovelquest]

Some of you guys still think we can make all this work "in real life"?

lol

[loramin]

Originally Posted by druidbob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

aa

But then wouldn't that be the same case here? The Warrens is a dungeon, assuming OP was killing kobolds in the surrounding area would he not have the same claim to the king as that group had to VF?

OP would have to be killing mobs from that "camp". If they were, then yes, but just killing any nearby kobolds wouldn't qualify (and AFAIK there's been no official GM ruling of what the "king" camp is, so I would imagine it's only mobs immediately next to him, as they have to be in agro range).