Make MQ EPIC farming Illegal

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You assume that everyone would do a raid using that dkp system. I wouldnt. I would get my guildies and friends together to do a raid and bypass the silly dkp system.

I mean, it's a nice thought but unfortunately that's not really the way it works. It could work for some parts of some epics (for example, mobs that aren't really that contested and only take like 5 - 10 people to kill), but for others you'd have no shot.

Take the earth staff in Hate for the mage epic for example. 100% the only way you'd have a shot at getting that is to join the top 1 or 2 raiding guilds. They basically have the Magi on lock down. You have no other choice.

White dragon scales are another good example, although not quite as bad as the earth staff.

Other examples are drops you'd need off a mob like CT.

Point being, depending on which epic you're talking about, other than an MQ your only option would be to earn DKP with the top 1 or 2 raiding guilds on the server.

[cannobeers2]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You assume that everyone would do a raid using that dkp system. I wouldnt. I would get my guildies and friends together to do a raid and bypass the silly dkp system.

You seem to be advocating for NBG.

[Andyman1022]

I bought or traded for at least part of most of my epics.. Only exception Green Scale which I bought for DKP. I am firmly in the "MQing is a service" column.

[Duik]

Sweaty neckbeard MQ would be the only way many would even have a remote chance to Epic a character. Not saying its fair or best.

Take away Epic MQ and it would just mean less Epics.

You farm all those apples and sheep/cow/pig parts you eat? NVM.

[Drueric]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sweaty neckbeard MQ would be the only way many would even have a remote chance to Epic a character. Not saying its fair or best.

Take away Epic MQ and it would just mean less Epics.

You farm all those apples and sheep/cow/pig parts you eat? NVM.

To use your analogy, yes I would get my own farm and raise my own animals to survive.

I think most people that actually care about getting an epic would prefer to be in the raids themselves than to spend half their life farming plat to make someone else rich. Its a shit system. I for one wont do it. Epics be damned.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To use your analogy, yes I would get my own farm and raise my own animals to survive.

I think most people that actually care about getting an epic would prefer to be in the raids themselves than to spend half their life farming plat to make someone else rich. Its a shit system. I for one wont do it. Epics be damned.

Getting an epic is not analagous to just surviving. Orchardist, vege farmer and animal raising (to the point of self suficiency) is a huge task.

Like my post mentions, its not the best or a fair system but the way the game is (because of spawn timers andhuman nature) people are gonna people.
Whether its that they have zero going on in their life, have (virtually) unlimited funds (the millionaire clubbers) people with the most time to devote WILL monopolize and monetize the content. Same as in 2000 as it is now.
Never epiced back then, i had a job, a band and a family. I know the deal now and it does not interest me.

Grind a countdown timer or endless plat grinding? No thanks. For me.

The people who have mobs on permanent lockdown are the type who peaked in high school and need to relive the glory to feel something.

Take away MQ and yoy would need to gather a force AND get lucky with drops and win the roll. Then rinse and repeat. At least you get to choose the non raid waiting around option and farm plat by killing endless guards or plat rich nameds.

Just choose.

[PatChapp]

Well,if one of your friends happened to be an. enchanter interested in farming hate you could get an earth staff,maybe. Even the guilds that do a lot of hate minis, it's all on the back of people willing to track the horrible windows.
The easy epics like rogue,cleric,monk you can do with friends. They also happen to be some of the best epics.
Anything from a contested raid mob wouldn't happen.

[cd288]

There are only a few epics that are really worth it anyway. There are multiple where you won't really notice a difference in your class.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are only a few epics that are really worth it anyway. There are multiple where you won't really notice a difference in your class.

And all of these are the easiest to get, too. (cleric, rogue, shaman)

I'd say Wiz, Bard, Monk are on the verge of class defining, with Bard being the only one in this category thats a pain (scales). If you have these classes in your stable its definitely worth getting epic.

Ranger is good but can get by with just Swiftwind which is super easy.

Enc can easily skip epic entirely and just raid for FT8, Feshlak staff is a great stat stick for cheap.

Druid is super easy and I wouldn't say its important...just a nice thing before 60 to help finish leveling.

Necro's true epic is Soul Well staff.

War is BiS but can easily go without, plenty of options.

Pal/SK - just get velious raid weapons

Mage - lol you're a coth bot silly...have fun trying to get magi (NOT WORTH)

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And all of these are the easiest to get, too. (cleric, rogue, shaman)

I'd say Wiz, Bard, Monk are on the verge of class defining, with Bard being the only one in this category thats a pain (scales). If you have these classes in your stable its definitely worth getting epic.

Ranger is good but can get by with just Swiftwind which is super easy.

Enc can easily skip epic entirely and just raid for FT8, Feshlak staff is a great stat stick for cheap.

Druid is super easy and I wouldn't say its important...just a nice thing before 60 to help finish leveling.

Necro's true epic is Soul Well staff.

War is BiS but can easily go without, plenty of options.

Pal/SK - just get velious raid weapons

Mage - lol you're a coth bot silly...have fun trying to get magi (NOT WORTH)

Yeah agree. Monk is close to class defining, but if you're raiding in a big guild you're going to have higher haste on you so kind of defeats the biggest benefit IMO. Nice to get those solid resist boosts from a hand slot though.

Druid is easy in the sense of not really having extreme bottlenecks that are massively contested and a lot of it being able to be done solo/small group, but it's one of the most pain in the ass epics from an RNG/grind perspective IMO.