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Old 07-26-2023, 01:10 PM
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Epics are supposed to be hard to get, I don't see an issue with requiring the lev cloak for the mage epic. If anything some of the epics are way too easy (cough cough rogue shaman)
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Old 07-26-2023, 04:25 PM
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Epics are supposed to be hard to get, I don't see an issue with requiring the lev cloak for the mage epic. If anything some of the epics are way too easy (cough cough rogue shaman)
Well, the Shaman epic isn't that easy if you do it properly. It's still on the easier side of epics overall, but the failure of Verant to think through the ramifications of basing it entirely on faction is what's made it so incredibly easy here.
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Old 07-27-2023, 10:33 AM
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Well, the Shaman epic isn't that easy if you do it properly. It's still on the easier side of epics overall, but the failure of Verant to think through the ramifications of basing it entirely on faction is what's made it so incredibly easy here.
True. I honestly wonder how many shamans have actually done the whole quest, like that dude you have to kill in the hole. Probably zero have done it on p99.
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Old 07-27-2023, 12:22 PM
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True. I honestly wonder how many shamans have actually done the whole quest, like that dude you have to kill in the hole. Probably zero have done it on p99.
I did it on live [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But yeah, when I made Loramin 2.0 here I did it the easy way (although still not the easiest way: I didn't know about the rez trick).
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Old 07-27-2023, 12:47 PM
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True. I honestly wonder how many shamans have actually done the whole quest, like that dude you have to kill in the hole. Probably zero have done it on p99.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Shaman_Epic_Quest

For Shamwowi I did parts 1-7 and the final part. This includes doing part 4, the test of patience. That was an interesting experience. I skipped 8 and 9, which was the hole portion you are referring to.
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Old 07-27-2023, 04:29 PM
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True. I honestly wonder how many shamans have actually done the whole quest, like that dude you have to kill in the hole. Probably zero have done it on p99.
I almost did it on P99, was starting to round people up to go into the Hole when someone was like psssst... you know you're an idiot right?
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Old 07-26-2023, 06:08 PM
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If we are going to bitch about epics. Check out www.enchanterepichorror.org Donate if you can.

Not the quest, the item. It sucketh. Some in the community wanted a cc effect. No. Epic gets solved and... a melee buff that, for those who already had a VoG ready to mem, found pretty unfunny. When you are slogging through lvl 59 instead of working the quest you realize, I have not wasted any time. I will always have that.

What should have been the epic only came later, but now too late to be really significant.
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...tml?item=22651

That's the epic. Check my magelo. Vindication. Fuck yer shissar. A crime. Isn't that right?
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Old 07-26-2023, 08:09 PM
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Mage epic in particular is kinda unfairly stacked but that's the glory of classic EQ; like life, shit ain't balanced and that aids to the prestige and badassery of the mage epic. Also one of the more powerful epics, esp during kunark
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Old 07-26-2023, 08:31 PM
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I could cast a mana-less VoG, let's be real. The stats of course are nice, that's not the point.

Shaman epic 1.0 at least increased soloability, right? That's not a wash.
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Old 07-27-2023, 08:22 PM
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And just to add to my post, I wanted the interview with the dev who created the spawn. He says lioness and elephant caves were not it but then goes to say it was part of the lower level spawn cycle. If a lioness is not low level I do not know what is. And if that is the case and that is the best info we have, then there are a lot of spawns which should be taken off the list. Plus, where did the 78 second rule come from and why is that one QM?

If he cannot remember exactly, and there is really no other proof of anything from classic, then it should just have been left alone instead of some frankenstein project.
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