Best trio to self farm gear/dungeons

[PatChapp]

No,but it drastically increases survivability.
Noone is going to slow my pet fast enough for it to matter,a clerics stun would be much more useful

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No,but it drastically increases survivability.
Noone is going to slow my pet fast enough for it to matter,a clerics stun would be much more useful

I've slowed broken pets just fine when playing with 60 Enchanters before. It's a 3 second cast. It's pretty rare that 60 Enchanters die in my experience when I group with them. If you are dying so fast that you need a 1 second stun instead of a 3 second slow, you are taking like 500 DPS a second lol, and are probably dead anyway. Mobs with that much damage are probably stun immune. If you were low health and without Rune to begin with, either you weren't playing right, or in a bad situation already.

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue is you are using level 24 characters as an example. Based on how you were talking before I kind of figured as much. I leveled a twinked Monk to 51 a few months ago, so I also have fresh experience. With Fungi and IFS, I was getting 1 level an hour from levels 30-40ish. It was more like 2 hours a level in the 40s. If my Monk can get 1 level an hour by himself with roughly 250 HP/Minute worth of mitigation from Fungi + mend + bind wound, an untwinked trio with an Enchanter pet can do the same. For reference, a Shaman casting 1 Greater Healing a minute is mitigating 270 HP/Minute, and can meditate the mana back within the same minute. When you look at the numbers you realize that you don't need the best possible heals in a lot of cases, especially at lower levels.

I think you just need to get some more levels before you make broad statements. The game changes quite a bit when you need to start fighting mobs that are level 40+. They get a huge boost to HP/AC/Damage, and it changes how you need to approach the game a bit. You can't just do the easy face tank solution that you can do in the lower levels.

60 cleric, 60 war, 60 ench, 60 monk, 52 monk and many other alts on blue. I also played live. I am well aware of shamans and their capabilities due to my time on monks. Due to my time on clerics, enchanters and tanks i can tell you sham is overrated and so is sk. Your view point is narrow. You get a better take on some classes and how they fit in when your not playing them.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

60 cleric, 60 war, 60 ench, 60 monk, 52 monk and many other alts on blue. I also played live. I am well aware of shamans and their capabilities due to my time on monks. Due to my time on clerics, enchanters and tanks i can tell you sham is overrated and so is sk. Your view point is narrow. You get a better take on some classes and how they fit in when your not playing them.

I think the only person with a narrow experience is yourself, considering you don't have a 60 Shaman and apparently haven't played with them very much. It's ok to be wrong. Leading with a level 24 as an example is questionable to begin with. If you actually have that many level 60 characters, you would know exactly how much healing is needed for most single group encounters, and most single group encounters don't need CH or Divine Light. It just sounds like you haven't been playing as well as you could.

[Lampolo]

This thread is about xp. Level 24 is perfectly relative example. I used this because it was my most recent time spent on p99.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is about xp. Level 24 is perfectly relative example. I used this because it was my most recent time spent on p99.

Then why say Shamans can't keep up with healing? You would know that's not true at level 24. Fungi Tunic by itself can take care of most mitigation and downtime recovery from 1-40 or so, and Shamans can easily heal better than Fungi Tunic. With 3 people your DPS is high enough to reduce damage taken per kill as well.

[Lampolo]

If an enchanter is sending out tells trying to put together a trio for xp, they are not asking shamans unless they are shit out of luck. You would know this but you can't think straight and have never played an enchanter. All your math doesn't matter. You just got KO'd again and your acting like your still in the argument.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If an enchanter is sending out tells trying to put together a trio for xp, they are not asking shamans unless they are shit out of luck. You would know this but you can't think straight and have never played an enchanter. All your math doesn't matter. You just got KO'd again and your acting like your still in the argument.

You lost the argument. If you don't understand that P99 is a game built on math, you don't know very much about the game, regardless of how many 60s you have.

My guess is you just aren't playing very well, and using Clerics as a crutch to make up for it.

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't understand that P99 is a game built on math, you don't know very much about the game, regardless of how many 60s you have.for it.

Straw man argument like usual. Try the technical vagrancy next please.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Straw man argument like usual. Try the technical vagrancy next please.

It is not a straw man. I don't think you know what that means.

Computer programs are built on math and rules. You can calculate the average DPS of any given monster and determine how much healing is needed to mitigate the damage.

You making incorrect statements about what you think is a strawman will not change that.