Highspeed rail is B$it

[robayon]

it's late i'm asleep

[Jibartik]

What's your twitch?

[Jibartik]

Not one line of that contradicts a single thing i said about trains being less efficient any any situation except MAYBE japan. (edit: see below - theyre not)

I'm not disingenuous, you just want to make very specific arguments and are being toxic.

And what you lived 10-15 minutes from the airport? and worked 10-15 minutes from the destination airport?

I dont know dude, Kim kardashian and elon musk among other celebes take 17 minuets flights in LA County you big baby.

Most high speed rail doesn't involve any transferring.

Every town does not have a direct line in europe and it has a well documented problem where you have to take a multiple hour train ride going north and south to get 20 miles to the west.

This is why EU is trying to completely re-do their entire train system.

Back to japan, have you ever taken a japanese train during rush hour? I have. A guy literally stopped me and said, "YOURE GOING TO BRING THAT BAG ON THE TRAIN?? NO!! and he bought me like 6 shots at a bar instead.

Its well known you dont bring luggage onto trains during russhour in japan. So how you gonna bring that giant work bag with you when for business you travel during rushour?

What an ahole, disingenuous? --- *goes to google your numbers

---jeszus christ dude I went to go google some numbers and just noticed this:

you gave all these breakdowns about why bullet trains were better welll you were DEAD wrong.

Bullet train ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ US$78.83 *–US$107.88 *, 2.2–3.5 hrs Japan Rail Pass
Flights ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆ US$30.03 * + plus transfers 4–5 hrs (incl. transfers) Search flights

They cost TWICE as much as planes

Not to mention, all I was being "disingenuous" of was saying I googled the "most traveled train in tokyo" and thatas all I know... and youre telling me im being disingenuous, when you straight up LIED about your numbers.

Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The flight is 1.5 hours.

busted you liar: its 4 hours go suck an egg!

Everything you say is disingenuous garbage. Stop lying.

Youre the one that turned out to be a liar.

[Jibartik]

Most high speed rail doesn't involve any transferring. Paris, London, Amsterdam trains, and these are the only ones i've taken so far, all start/leave from central locations in the downtown area and easily navigated, whereas the airports are at least 30 minutes way.

Yea because unless you're just going to get nicked at the pub you need to go to places that are 30 minuets outside of those cities.

Again: if my job asked me to walk to and from the train station in a foreign city Id quit on the spot.

Ive literally been flown to japan for work too, and I didnt walk or take a train I was picked up in a car that had a crown on the grill i still to this day dont know what is.

Also, you don't think airports aren't currently working poorly as well? Heathrow is a clusterfuck on the best of days, and CDG is one of my least favorite places in the whole world.

Why would you ask me a question after you went on that rant about me being a disingenuous garbage liar.

[nostalgiaquest]

Are you really this upset or just trolling?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you really this upset or just trolling?

Do you find people often respond well to being called disingenuous garbage liars?

[Kaveh]

Trains are bad ass

[Jibartik]

That they are.



And airports suck.

But barring communist/authoritarian parties or another 50-80 years of progress, we're stuck with em.

But even then I will be taking the drone shuttle.

[nostalgiaquest]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you find people often respond well to being called disingenuous garbage liars?

No, but what i have found is that people get really upset when they know they're wrong about something.

I never said you were garbage. Disingenuous? Yes. Delusional? Absolutely. But I don't think you're garbage homie. Without you this forum would be boring! I may have used some meany pants words here and there, but this is P99 off topic, give your balls a tug. It's no wonder Horza likes to pick on you.

I'm just simply providing examples of when a train might be the better option that a plane. Here i'll do one more.

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullet train ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ US$78.83 *–US$107.88 *, 2.2–3.5 hrs Japan Rail Pass
Flights ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆ US$30.03 * + plus transfers 4–5 hrs (incl. transfers) Search flights

Let's add on the additional travel fees to that plane, shall we? From tokyo station to Narita airport on the Narita Express train, it costs about 3000 yen, or 30 dollars. You can do it cheaper on the local trains, but you'd have to be crazy to do that. From Osaka station to Kyoto station is 560 yen, about 5 dollars. So now that 30 dollar flight is actually 65 dollars, and takes twice the time. If your company is willing to pay for private airport pickup service, surely they're willing to pay the extra 15 bucks for the two more hours of available work time right? Not to mention the shinkansen experience is a much more enjoyable and comfortable.

Also, not once have i said you should walk from the train station to your hotel or work. You keep saying that as some sort of "gotcha!" but I'm not sure why. I take Ubers/taxis from the train station, which are usually around 5-10 minutes, versus the 30-60+ minutes it could take to taxi from the airport.

This is why I call you disingenuous.

[nostalgiaquest]

But, just to show i don't disagree with everything you say, I am also highly in favor of Nuclear power, and think the EU is dumb as fuck for phasing it out while preaching about the environment and buying oil from Russia.