Melee Worthlessness - The Biggest Balance Problem There Is

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Wyclef31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're always gonna have your min/maxers who don't want to group with hybrids or melee in general. But also there's a lot of people like me who just want adventure and to do things differently. I'm not after xp or loot, just a good time, if I get the xp and loot that just makes it better.

I haven’t even really run into that on green. Worst I’ve seen is the group has one slot left and is rolling along just fine and doesn’t want to add a final person of any class. No group has ever been like “yeah we need a tank but we’d rather have no tank than a hybrid”

[onlyrockerfan]

Wow that was a lot of information....too bad I didn’t read it

[bubur]

just divide all mob damage by 4

melee good, charm bad

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just divide all mob damage by 4

melee good, charm bad

This is almost exactly what some other solo-oriented emu servers do.

[Videri]

So, OP, any response to the thread so far? (Ignoring the haters, of course.)

[Baler]

If every hybrid re-rolled rogue there would be no problem.

[Woodrow]

This actually reminds me of an uproar back in the day on the official EQ forums in classic when people realized a lvl 50 necro pet could solo a lvl 50 warrior. People started crunching the numbers and realized many stats didnt actually do what they were supposed to do and were worthless.

[Sotaris]

Originally Posted by Woodrow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This actually reminds me of an uproar back in the day on the official EQ forums in classic when people realized a lvl 50 necro pet could solo a lvl 50 warrior. People started crunching the numbers and realized many stats didnt actually do what they were supposed to do and were worthless.

Sorry for the necro, but this brought back huge memories. This was a BIG deal. It causes an uproar all across Everquest. Everyone heard about it on every server. Wasn't there an example of a level 50 warrior getting stomped by a sand giant and a level 50 necro pet STOMPING a sand giant? It caused the first necro pet nerf. the very first necro pet ever was so ridiculous, it hit for high 80's I think? It was nuts.

Everquest has never been fair for melee, they simply weren't designed well. But it's a huge reason why playing melee can be so damn rewarding and why twinking them is so fun and why gearing them is so rewarding.

[drackgon]

I love how this post is about Melee. Some of you havn't played Wizzy[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] at least Melee constantly doing dmg and bashing. Wizzy = ice comet pray no resist then mana.. Resist and accept res afterwards..

Yes wizzy can solo lvl. But who cares about solo leveling. As melee form groups. As a ranger form a group(be the puller). If your hate for melee that you can't find groups. Take a breathe, realize maybe you have bad rep? And try and fix it. Join a guild, or group of people you constantly run with.

If your hate is I can't solo a cash camp.. Move on to ones you can. SK can easily solo FBSS, Ice giants, Hill giants, HHK guards. Don't be mad that the enc or necro is soloing Howling stones, or fire giants. Just realize were limited but can still have fun and make money, and earn pixals.

[NPC]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how this post is about Melee. Some of you havn't played Wizzy[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] at least Melee constantly doing dmg and bashing. Wizzy = ice comet pray no resist then mana.. Resist and accept res afterwards..

Yes wizzy can solo lvl. But who cares about solo leveling. As melee form groups. As a ranger form a group(be the puller). If your hate for melee that you can't find groups. Take a breathe, realize maybe you have bad rep? And try and fix it. Join a guild, or group of people you constantly run with.

If your hate is I can't solo a cash camp.. Move on to ones you can. SK can easily solo FBSS, Ice giants, Hill giants, HHK guards. Don't be mad that the enc or necro is soloing Howling stones, or fire giants. Just realize were limited but can still have fun and make money, and earn pixals.

Ice comet is trash, draught of fire, or pillar of flame son.
Draught of fire way more powerful than Ice comet.
You can draught of fire twice before IC goes off once.
688 x 2 = 1376 in 6 seconds, resisted MUCH less
Pillar of flame 952 dmg x4 in 4.5 seconds= 3808 dmg for 364 mana, there's no better mana ratio in the game, excpet PBaoe of course. Need a group for that.