Estimate on Student Loan Forgiveness

[magnetaress]

What about people with learning disabilities. Like, I know a lot of them and a traditional Dr. ate or PhD is likely out of my reach due to memory bandwidth. Google really enables me.

Just don't personally like the precedence all this emphasis on 50 years of continuous education is placing on us.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about people with learning disabilities. Like, I know a lot of them and a traditional Dr. ate or PhD is likely out of my reach due to memory bandwidth. Google really enables me.

Depending on the field you can probably find a school that you can complete a doctorate program in, these days. I've seen legitimately dumb people acquire masters degrees.

But to what end? It seems like it is only worth doing if you are seeking a vocation that demands it for success or if it is a requirement to fulfill your pride.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depending on the field you can probably find a school that you can complete a doctorate program in, these days. I've seen legitimately dumb people acquire masters degrees.

But to what end? It seems like it is only worth doing if you are seeking a vocation that demands it for success or if it is a requirement to fulfill your pride.

I was a perpetual C-D student. I really feel like I was left behind because I learned by doing and not wrote memorization. I can't communicate how hard basic memory stuff is.

I picked up shooting and yoga really quick tho.

Just feel like we ignore a massive segment of our society with modern educational expectations. It really is a subtle form of disenfranchisement.

[Gustoo]

The educational expectations are not modern they are antiquated and I agree. The system we have today was designed around producing factory workers that could manage a factory job (sit still for 8 hours follow basic instructions) it is not a system designed to create innovative problem solvers.

Historically, "education" has been weaponized since basically forever. We used to threaten people with death if they don't go to school. We might have told them back then that it was to help them get jobs and stuff too.

The main thing you get from school is being taught to sit still and stay out of trouble. Mission accomplished. All other goals are secondary. The system we have is probably working as intended.

Or not who knows.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The educational expectations are not modern they are antiquated and I agree. The system we have today was designed around producing factory workers that could manage a factory job (sit still for 8 hours follow basic instructions) it is not a system designed to create innovative problem solvers.

Historically, "education" has been weaponized since basically forever. We used to threaten people with death if they don't go to school. We might have told them back then that it was to help them get jobs and stuff too.

The main thing you get from school is being taught to sit still and stay out of trouble. Mission accomplished. All other goals are secondary. The system we have is probably working as intended.

Or not who knows.

Gotchya. I see what you mean.

[Gustoo]

At the very least, people that care about education and actually teaching understand the difficulties of trying to force everyone to sit still in class. It is a known fact that people learn much better through other means than reading a class textbook and then answering multiple choice questions about it. But we still force kids to do that. Why? I don't know. We do it though.

Its basically a known fact that it is dumb, and that it doesn't teach anyone anything. Some kids are good at it. Some aren't. It doesn't matter how long someone sits in a classroom, they never get good at answering those questions when taught that way, or at least they can never compete with the kids that have a brain that is compatible with this activity.

[Gustoo]

They might go ahead and throw you a bone Azeth.

But since your privledged maybe you would be selected to re-engage your student loan debt and start paying off someone elses loan for charity?

Maybe.

For reals though no reason to ask a theoryquest question like that since we're only talking out of our butts right now anyways. You might be SOL (but you're not, you were blessed with the ability and brain and stuff that allowed you to plan well enough to pay off your loan) or you might get a handout too. Who knows. Either way you're student debt is covered so grats.

[DoodyLich666]

I see no way that our current gov would ever forgive student debts. They want a cut of that shit.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by DoodyLich666 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see no way that our current gov would ever forgive student debts. They want a cut of that shit.

They don't make money on it. These loans cost the government money, the interest rates are low enough and collection is challenging enough that they lose money overall either way.

The loan process is a way to loan money to us in order for us to pay the government for our own further indoctrination. It's a good scheme. It lets us be eligible for a number of higher level government positions that we would otherwise not be eligible for.

When it comes to loan forgiveness they will probably be printing money (with pen stroke) to pay themselves, or buying the debt from themselves. So Freddy Mae / whatever organization gets paid in full and "the people" is holding the debt.

It will all be conveniently piled into the coronavirus debt package, when we go and forgive ourselves our own debt.

Its safe to say the net result will be "the people" being sold down the river. Somehow.

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They might go ahead and throw you a bone Azeth.

But since your privledged maybe you would be selected to re-engage your student loan debt and start paying off someone elses loan for charity?

Maybe.

For reals though no reason to ask a theoryquest question like that since we're only talking out of our butts right now anyways. You might be SOL (but you're not, you were blessed with the ability and brain and stuff that allowed you to plan well enough to pay off your loan) or you might get a handout too. Who knows. Either way you're student debt is covered so grats.

Paid off 90k in student loans, but there is no way they will help those who responsibly paid our debts. It is slightly insulting to the responsible people, but I won't be as pissed as the guy who wrecked Elizabeth Warren; he should be proud that he is superior to his friend, while torpedoing a terrible candidate. All it will take is a few tweets from some well-followed/adored radical about how it is a transfer of wealth to future doctors/lawyers (which is true), and it will be shelved another 3 years until they need more young/dumb votes, with claims of "we have to have patience, and do this right". Similar to the "rampant" and "institutionalized" racism "problem", reparations, and every other failed promise/issue... it will recycle in 2023/4 when they need useful idiots to vote for them. If one can't see this, you're not old and experienced enough to pick out the pattern. The right does this too, with fear of violent crime, etc.

What the government has reliably proven is that it can cause a problem and then offer you some shitty conciliatory sorry or half-cure.

Azeth, you won't get anything, which is good. Just pay them off like any other responsible adult, and be proud of being a net producer, not a parasite.