There is a mis-conception that American's are wealthy, you're not.

[Thulian]

Originally Posted by Arvan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some more fun facts - 1% of the population of the WORLD owns over 50% of the worlds wealth.

America also has the most millionaires in the world having a very hefty lead over numbers two and three china and japan.


Money is here in america its just very concentrated to the 1% and doesn't seem to be trickling down yet

There is no trickle down, you either work your ass off to scratch your way to the top or you end up bitter and mad and vote for joe biden as a way to lash out against the people doing well.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Thulian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no trickle down, you either work your ass off to scratch your way to the top or you end up bitter and mad and vote for joe biden as a way to lash out against the people doing well.

I think wealth is like a dust/gas cloud in space.

If small it dissipates into nothing, absorbed by larger gravity pools. Larger ones might grow into rocks or planets as they have enough gravity to be held together. The largest wealthpools are like stars, furious and all consuming. Sucking in mass and spitting out energy. Even bigger are the black holes of wealth which just more or less suck.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think wealth is like a dust/gas cloud in space.

If small it dissipates into nothing, absorbed by larger gravity pools. Larger ones might grow into rocks or planets as they have enough gravity to be held together. The largest wealthpools are like stars, furious and all consuming. Sucking in mass and spitting out energy. Even bigger are the black holes of wealth which just more or less suck.

It's an interesting analogy, but the sun also generates much of the energy that keeps our planets ecosystem alive. Granted also our molten core. But it's not black and white.

Still a pretty solid analogy, I feel like we live in a system with a blue giant that is going to collapse and nova soon tho. Less of a stable small yellow main sequence sun, economically.

Think a small cluster of yellow main sequence stars with several habitable planets would be the neatest (funnest, but maybe not the most efficient), and a noble 'engineering' task/goal. Tho, I guess stacking habitable planets is not as viable as spreading them out among several distant systems along different stages, as one sun will consume them all when it transitions into a red giant and starts burning helium.

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by Thulian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no trickle down, you either work your ass off to scratch your way to the top or you end up bitter and mad and vote for joe biden as a way to lash out against the people doing well.

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[Jimjam]

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https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-ne...s-for-the-rich

LSE (London Socialist Elites) claim low taxation does not cause trickledown.

[Thulian]

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Filed under no money in the bank

[Llanos]

This headline is what is wrong with America. America is literally rich people bitching that other rich people are richer than they are. Even our poor people are rich in comparison. People who haven't travelled say dumb shit like this. Even if other countries have it better they are just even more rich.
Go somewhere and see real poverty and come back.

[Thulian]

Originally Posted by kaluppo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I work in the IT business so I talk quite a bit with people from places like India and Pakistan. One of my co-workers moved here from India. I remember my co-worker told me that the thing that surprised him the most when he got here is seeing how "good" the middle class lived in America. He specifically mentioned things like houses and apartments that didn't have leaking roofs, every home has a TV and computer, we can buy new or near new cars that don't have holes in the floor.

To them, living on a 50K year salary in the US is like being rich because where they are from the middle class there live very poorly.

It's all perspective.

I have 2 graphic designers in bangladesh that do my labels and i asked him how much a gallon of good milk is in the store, he said its usually around $1

I pay him $20 for a standard label design which nets him 1/4 shopping cart filled with food. If its a good label ( Which takes him a few hours ) i give him $50 or $100 which is basically a shopping spree and enough food for 2 weeks for his family.

India / pakistan / bangladesh is a dump, 99.9% of people are living in homemade shacks or horrible housing

Originally Posted by Llanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This headline is what is wrong with America. America is literally rich people bitching that other rich people are richer than they are. Even our poor people are rich in comparison. People who haven't travelled say dumb shit like this. Even if other countries have it better they are just even more rich.
Go somewhere and see real poverty and come back.

Most people dont have any perspective because they have never been anywhere else.

[imperiouskitten]

1% is pretty good honestly. Just find yourself better off than 99% of ppl. Do you realize how bad 99% of ppl are?

It'll never be better than 1% again. Get it while it's good. Your odds will never, ever be better, except possibly briefly if there's a wealth redistribution event soon.

In the future it'll be literally 1 to 20 world trusts and a whole lot of tenants. Our (unowned, occupancy) share of the machinery will depend only on the size of the machinery, population size, and what share of the total economy is funneled through entitlements the state gives us for the machine to suck back out. Precedent is set very low on this as we pump our economy by handing the cash directly to the owners -- gas directly into the cylinders, except just refilling the god-damn gas tank to keep the entire machine (us) involved. This is very bad as we are training the giant robot to understand that the mass of humans is not particularly important to the economy.

But assuming we aren't all wiped out in some convenient disaster, poverty won't exist in the same sense, with the new human jungle being a very safe climate-controlled series of corridors with McDonalds growing on electric trees and you'll just have to watch a LOT of ads, and "success" at the low end of the 99.98th percentile of wealth will be basically popular whores with a lot of simps. The .02% holding 99% of the wealth at that point will probably be not that much larger in terms of raw count as the current 1% class, although human population will be maybe 10x or 20x today or an order of magnitude bigger than that if energy tech improves a lot, encouraged to breed to generate more UBI entitlement cashflow to be vacuumed out of the economy, not to mention to continue interacting to feed the big computer more and more data from which to produce hypnotic signals.

The inheriting .02% owners of the big metal Earth will be locked in trusts that prevent them from divesting or fucking up their fortunes, for stability's sake, and they'll be more or less locked in posh padded rooms with their choice of peasants to buttfuck while plans charted by a computer and an ancestor play out for generations. Tho prisoners in some sense, they'll get big awesome unheard-of privileges like the ability to see the sun, the ability to manually drive a car or drone instead of autopilot, access to a general computer with linux instead of apple iOS without needing the normal monthly Employment Purpose License and recording software, self-defense weapons with up to five repeating shots, and such. Sooo much power.

Since humans will have no part in production or industry or design, and mass media will be choked and stroked by the mega-owners, the individual's desirability be it socially, sexually, podcast rapport will be the only thing left other than "art", which probably also will be largely usurped by machines incognito with hu-mon identities if we're talking about the writing, visual art, filmmaking spheres. Go watch a cape movie with the constant match-cuts -- they are already written, storyboarded and edited by a machine. Human warmth will be the last and most valuable product we can generate... i hope, or else there will be no need for us

Grab some capital now if you aren't content to spectate. Seducing inheritors will be the very last means of social mobility once humanity reaches its mature state of stratification, which will be extreme. 1% is soooo achievable compared to where we're headed, you sound like little baby. One day you gonna wake up inside a completely immutable iron cylinder saying what in the heck happened.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1% is pretty good honestly. Just find yourself better off than 99% of ppl. Do you realize how bad 99% of ppl are?

It'll never be better than 1% again. Get it while it's good. Your odds will never, ever be better, except possibly briefly if there's a wealth redistribution event soon.

In the future it'll be literally 1 to 20 world trusts and a whole lot of tenants. Our (unowned, occupancy) share of the machinery will depend only on the size of the machinery, population size, and what share of the total economy is funneled through entitlements the state gives us for the machine to suck back out. Precedent is set very low on this as we pump our economy by handing the cash directly to the owners -- gas directly into the cylinders, except just refilling the god-damn gas tank to keep the entire machine (us) involved. This is very bad as we are training the giant robot to understand that the mass of humans is not particularly important to the economy.

But assuming we aren't all wiped out in some convenient disaster, poverty won't exist in the same sense, with the new human jungle being a very safe climate-controlled series of corridors with McDonalds growing on electric trees and you'll just have to watch a LOT of ads, and "success" at the low end of the 99.98th percentile of wealth will be basically popular whores with a lot of simps. The .02% holding 99% of the wealth at that point will probably be not that much larger in terms of raw count as the current 1% class, although human population will be maybe 10x or 20x today or an order of magnitude bigger than that if energy tech improves a lot, encouraged to breed to generate more UBI entitlement cashflow to be vacuumed out of the economy, not to mention to continue interacting to feed the big computer more and more data from which to produce hypnotic signals.

The inheriting .02% owners of the big metal Earth will be locked in trusts that prevent them from divesting or fucking up their fortunes, for stability's sake, and they'll be more or less locked in posh padded rooms with their choice of peasants to buttfuck while plans charted by a computer and an ancestor play out for generations. Tho prisoners in some sense, they'll get big awesome unheard-of privileges like the ability to see the sun, the ability to manually drive a car or drone instead of autopilot, access to a general computer with linux instead of apple iOS without needing the normal monthly Employment Purpose License and recording software, self-defense weapons with up to five repeating shots, and such. Sooo much power.

Since humans will have no part in production or industry or design, and mass media will be choked and stroked by the mega-owners, the individual's desirability be it socially, sexually, podcast rapport will be the only thing left other than "art", which probably also will be largely usurped by machines incognito with hu-mon identities if we're talking about the writing, visual art, filmmaking spheres. Go watch a cape movie with the constant match-cuts -- they are already written, storyboarded and edited by a machine. Human warmth will be the last and most valuable product we can generate... i hope, or else there will be no need for us

Grab some capital now if you aren't content to spectate. Seducing inheritors will be the very last means of social mobility once humanity reaches its mature state of stratification, which will be extreme. 1% is soooo achievable compared to where we're headed, you sound like little baby. One day you gonna wake up inside a completely immutable iron cylinder saying what in the heck happened.

That was a good read. Thanks.