green is the new wow

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm think about this:

wow:

press 1 2 and 4.. 1 2 and 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 2 and 4 1 2 and 4

everquest: lull this mob, 2.5 mins, mez, sit memorize spell, stand up, cast, sit memorize spell, cast.

run around corner, wait...

path walks by GRAB IT, pull to corner /pet back off

run to other corner wait.....

wait.....


OK im just using one example but I feel the difference in everquest play is vastly more complicated than wow's, am I wrong? Tell me why.

Pretty inaccurate actually, and shows that you never played WoW. I remember even in Vanilla HAVING to have the perfect class combinations to have enough CC to even do certain dungeons. Like we actually had to have a Priest in our group to even be able to do Sunken Temple because they were the only class in the game who could CC Undead. As a Rogue I remember being annoyed that my DPS had to take a hit (since people are actually held accountable for their DPS in WoW), because it was mandatory that I Glyph Sap so my raid would actually be able to clear trash, otherwise it would be impossible -- this involved being completely in sync with Mage's using Polymorph, and Shamans using Hex at the same time, otherwise it was a complete wipe. If I was off even by a second then the mobs would be in combat and immune to sap, and if I broke stealth early, I pulled the entire room.

[Scalem]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty inaccurate actually, and shows that you never played WoW. I remember even in Vanilla HAVING to have the perfect class combinations to have enough CC to even do certain dungeons. Like we actually had to have a Priest in our group to even be able to do Sunken Temple because they were the only class in the game who could CC Undead. As a Rogue I remember being annoyed that my DPS had to take a hit (since people are actually held accountable for their DPS in WoW), because it was mandatory that I Glyph Sap so my raid would actually be able to clear trash, otherwise it would be impossible -- this involved being completely in sync with Mage's using Polymorph, and Shamans using Hex at the same time, otherwise it was a complete wipe. If I was off even by a second then the mobs would be in combat and immune to sap, and if I broke stealth early, I pulled the entire room.

Glyphs didn’t exist in classic.

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by Scalem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glyphs didn’t exist in classic.

You're right, you literally had to spec into it (Subtlety) and your dps took an even more massive hit, but yes it was (and still is) mandatory for a lot of raiders.

[DoodyLich666]

I remember all my homies being combat rogues, and they were able to use sap just fine. I was a fury warrior that would slap on a shield and tank all kinds of shit. Most specs were not so make-or-break to the game as many people would want you to believe. I had tons of fun in the instances and raids of WoW, but from what I recall all of the difficulty was just in figuring out what kind of DDR pattern the deva wanted you to follow.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty inaccurate actually, and shows that you never played WoW. I remember even in Vanilla HAVING to have the perfect class combinations to have enough CC to even do certain dungeons. Like we actually had to have a Priest in our group to even be able to do Sunken Temple because they were the only class in the game who could CC Undead. As a Rogue I remember being annoyed that my DPS had to take a hit (since people are actually held accountable for their DPS in WoW), because it was mandatory that I Glyph Sap so my raid would actually be able to clear trash, otherwise it would be impossible -- this involved being completely in sync with Mage's using Polymorph, and Shamans using Hex at the same time, otherwise it was a complete wipe. If I was off even by a second then the mobs would be in combat and immune to sap, and if I broke stealth early, I pulled the entire room.

Glyphs are wotlk children , u confusing and making ur shit with vanilla

[Nocht]

There are probably more boss mechanics in Karazhan than the entire first three expansions of Everquest. No way Everquest is the harder raid scene.

[Zekayy]

Wow isnt easy try to maintain rank 14 in classic WoW (0.1% of players) only reach this and it resets every week, you have to be a pvp god or a neck beard to achieve it. the list system is flawed nobody wants to spend 70+ hours killing themselves over a manastone how is that healthy? I will give credit where its due the p99 team tried something different but it does need to be re-defined, as 70+ hours isnt healthy at all.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow isnt easy try to maintain rank 14 in classic WoW (0.1% of players) only reach this and it resets every week, you have to be a pvp god or a neck beard to achieve it. the list system is flawed nobody wants to spend 70+ hours killing themselves over a manastone how is that healthy? I will give credit where its due the p99 team tried something different but it does need to be re-defined, as 70+ hours isnt healthy at all.

i did back on the day , was first r 14 eu realms . and only did lost it when Naxramas grind to get KT down was to much burning time farming shit to even have time pvp .

And yes first eu high warlord was a Enha shaman then ele for most part due to wf nerfs (not gonna like Aq+ bwl trink was absurd retarded op) wich was forced to spam R1 chain heal on nax

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i did back on the day , was first r 14 eu realms . and only did lost it when Naxramas grind to get KT down was to much burning time farming shit to even have time pvp .

And yes first eu high warlord was a Enha shaman then ele for most part due to wf nerfs (not gonna like Aq+ bwl trink was absurd retarded op) wich was forced to spam R1 chain heal on nax

Right on dude that's hell of an accomplishment, not many people even get r 14, let alone maintain it, I couldnt ever do it, these p99ers think sitting for dragons 16 hours is bad they havent experienced the pain and grind of what rank 14 truly is.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right on dude that's hell of an accomplishment, not many people even get r 14, let alone maintain it, I couldnt ever do it, these p99ers think sitting for dragons 16 hours is bad they havent experienced the pain and grind of what rank 14 truly is.

wasnt that hard , people had no idea how to pvp at all(much like nowdays bgs atleast for ally), people dreaded of locks mages and rogues , being shaman with alchemy and faps and engi with trinkets it was way easy to pin anyone down,
most members of my guild where everquest players and quite abit from sullon zek , and rallos so having the mindset made it easy as hell.
i can say i was propably the only shaman in wow with a dark edge of insanity cuz dkp system over class shit system of loot.