Do pets currently take 50% of your exp?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ligma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've had 10 years to argue your point and it's just some conspiracy about some people being biased against your class for some reason.

Oh I'm not playing a mage. Don't have one on Blue either

[Obrae]

Self proclaimed classic police is full of confirmation bias.

They find a information suddenly confirming with the most simple of test, available since launch, an exp penalty 8 month after the release. 8 month!

What do they do ? Proclaim it evidence that a penalty was at launch...

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Self proclaimed classic police is full of confirmation bias.

They find a information suddenly confirming with the most simple of test, available since launch, an exp penalty 8 month after the release. 8 month!

What do they do ? Proclaim it evidence that a penalty was at launch...

Not that i mind the penalty it will be there anyway and IS part of the real classic experience.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Self proclaimed classic police is full of confirmation bias.

They find a information suddenly confirming with the most simple of test, available since launch, an exp penalty 8 month after the release. 8 month!

What do they do ? Proclaim it evidence that a penalty was at launch...

I'm looking and I can't find anyone doing this "simple test" before then. Feel free to help, mate.

Here's a post from a thread in May 1999 about mage pets and xp:

5/19/99

The way I heard it explained many times in beta was:

- Solo Pet shares its master's experience
- If grouped but Pet not getting killing blow it still only shares its
master's experience
- If grouped and it gets the killing blow it gets a share of the group's experience.

Ryan <Barbarian Shaman on Xegony>

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....w/lojNLLKprnkJ

No one else in the thread presents an opposing theory or contradicts him. Main topic of conversation is whether this penalty also applies to the group.

If the source of this info was the official players manual that would help explain why it was so widely believed.

[Dolalin]

Here's one from early April, a few weeks after launch:

4/1/99

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 00:04:11 -0800, Mak <ma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I was once a lvl 6 wizard and was very capable of holding my own, with Root.
>Magicains get it at a higher level I belive, but it can be almost effective as a
>pet without
>the exp loss...
I play a lvl 7 wiz. I think the root and nuke strategy is fine with
blues and may be whites but not yellows.

Yellows resist root a lot .. and white do a fairly amount of time.

If you solo and use root, and if it fails, you almost for certain die.
So it is a high rish strategy and i will only use it against blue. For
whites and above I probably would call ona a friend.

And I think root and nuke is not that efficient until level 8 or so.

If i say root and nuke a gnoll (in Qeynos Hills, which con as blue), I
almost have to dump most of my mana to kill him. Not to mention, I am
only doing ~14 pts per shock of fire. He will break free before I kill
him. It is more efficient to bash him with my worn great staff and
slip some shock of fire in once and a while.

I know melee won't work in higher levels, but melee is good at level 7
since it cut down on mana use and reduce down time (meditation).

Also, with a pet, if you see the tide is turning against you, you can
always gate out. So I would say Magician get to solo more, but he got to share exp with his pet.

I still like my wiz better though. I heard root and nuke is really
effective at higher level since you can kill in fewer shots.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....I/wM621-7ugEgJ

[Dolalin]

Oh yes, these people were much like your average forum dweller here.

But all we're looking for right now is whether pets ate xp when soloing. So far, people believed they did. It was a very uncontroversial opinion by the looks of it, I never see it challenged anywhere it's mentioned. All that's controversial is whether they stole xp in groups, and how much.

Sometimes what isn't talked about is just as important as what is talked about.

[Obrae]

Hahah those old post have some nice naive tidbits [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"How do they work in groups? Well, the Wizard, as you say, has the > >
biggest
>and baddest offense spells in Norrath, and in later levels can hit for way over
>100 damage points many times in a battle. "

more than 100damage multiple time guys ! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

those were the days of discovery and awe!

[DMN]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no problems with the pet exp thing. I do think the mage research is bullshit though. It clearly wasn't fleshed out and was immediately fixed on discovery. Some things aren't worth replicating. And broken class mechanics fall under that. I feel bad for mages on green right now that are getting screwed, drop rates don't even seem to be correct.

What was "immediately fixed on discovery?" Having to research most of your important spells was certainly not, and green isn't recreating the bugginess of research in vanilla.

[Tkon]

Why are people saying just mages? Necromancers have to research all pet spells past 20 as well?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Tkon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are people saying just mages? Necromancers have to research all pet spells past 20 as well?

Mages get no pets past level 20 is my understanding.